All things CoronaVirus

[RedFromMI]

Opinion: The two numbers that could get people to take the vaccine

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinion ... accinated/

Simply put, publish two numbers widely: deaths if unvaccinated, and deaths with vaccination.

[youthathletics]

Opinion: The two numbers that could get people to take the vaccine

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinion ... accinated/

Simply put, publish two numbers widely: deaths if unvaccinated, and deaths with vaccination.

Any deaths from vaccines?

[wgdsr]

Opinion: The two numbers that could get people to take the vaccine

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinion ... accinated/

Simply put, publish two numbers widely: deaths if unvaccinated, and deaths with vaccination.

great. now wapo is stealing ideas from fanlax. the slow death of traditional publishing and media.

[SCLaxAttack]

Opinion: The two numbers that could get people to take the vaccine

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinion ... accinated/

Simply put, publish two numbers widely: deaths if unvaccinated, and deaths with vaccination.

Any deaths from vaccines?

3 deaths from vaccines (all three J&J) of 309,000,000 vaccine doses administered in the U.S. through June 7, 2021. 313,549 people died from Covid during that same period. 5,208 vaccinated people have died from all causes during that same period.

https://covid-101.org/science/how-many- ... n-the-u-s/
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracke ... endsdeaths

Should this really be a topic of discussion?

[RedFromMI]

Opinion: The two numbers that could get people to take the vaccine

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinion ... accinated/

Simply put, publish two numbers widely: deaths if unvaccinated, and deaths with vaccination.

Any deaths from vaccines?

COVID ones

[wgdsr]

Opinion: The two numbers that could get people to take the vaccine

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinion ... accinated/

Simply put, publish two numbers widely: deaths if unvaccinated, and deaths with vaccination.

Any deaths from vaccines?

3 deaths from vaccines (all three J&J) of 309,000,000 vaccine doses administered in the U.S. through June 7, 2021. 313,549 people died from Covid during that same period. 5,208 vaccinated people have died from all causes during that same period.

https://covid-101.org/science/how-many- ... n-the-u-s/
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracke ... endsdeaths

Should this really be a topic of discussion?

that is simply impossible unless the vaxx is the fountain of youth.

[Bart]

Opinion: The two numbers that could get people to take the vaccine

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinion ... accinated/

Simply put, publish two numbers widely: deaths if unvaccinated, and deaths with vaccination.

great. now wapo is stealing ideas from fanlax. the slow death of traditional publishing and media.

Stands to reason. Fanlax had this whole thing figured out long ago............

[SCLaxAttack]

Opinion: The two numbers that could get people to take the vaccine

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinion ... accinated/

Simply put, publish two numbers widely: deaths if unvaccinated, and deaths with vaccination.

Any deaths from vaccines?

3 deaths from vaccines (all three J&J) of 309,000,000 vaccine doses administered in the U.S. through June 7, 2021. 313,549 people died from Covid during that same period. 5,208 vaccinated people have died from all causes during that same period.

https://covid-101.org/science/how-many- ... n-the-u-s/
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracke ... endsdeaths

Should this really be a topic of discussion?

that is simply impossible unless the vaxx is the fountain of youth.

I thought that, too, but that's how the writer wrote the article. Let's assume the writer didn't mean it and 5,208 people with a vaccine dose died from Covid. 5,208 vs. 308,341 (vs. 3). My point remains - still not a topic for a reasonable discussion.

[wgdsr]

Opinion: The two numbers that could get people to take the vaccine

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinion ... accinated/

Simply put, publish two numbers widely: deaths if unvaccinated, and deaths with vaccination.

Any deaths from vaccines?

3 deaths from vaccines (all three J&J) of 309,000,000 vaccine doses administered in the U.S. through June 7, 2021. 313,549 people died from Covid during that same period. 5,208 vaccinated people have died from all causes during that same period.

https://covid-101.org/science/how-many- ... n-the-u-s/
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracke ... endsdeaths

Should this really be a topic of discussion?

that is simply impossible unless the vaxx is the fountain of youth.

I thought that, too, but that's how the writer wrote the article. Let's assume the writer didn't mean it and 5,208 people with a vaccine dose died from Covid. 5,208 vs. 308,341 (vs. 3). My point remains - still not a topic for a reasonable discussion.

not exactly. the writer listed the number of deaths that were reported thru the vaers system.

some back of the napkin:
330 m people, typical year 2.8 - 2.9 m deaths.
0.8 percent.

3 months ago, ~110 million (33%) had been vaccinated.
forgetting even the lead up to then where people were getting vaxxed in growing numbers (longer) and that vaxxed people skewed much older... just since april 20 to june 7 (approx 47 days), you would expect 47/365 × 2,800,000 x .333 = 120,000 deaths. without any covid deaths, and also just from that 100 million, not those vaxxed after.

the vaers system is not only comically underutilized, it's mostly useless. maybe bigger numbers if it were really promoted would be too scary for everyone, feared taken out of context.

even i'm surprised at where we are with many items. and from the jump it's been my opinion that we were headed where we were headed (directionally, of course) regardless.

[youthathletics]

Opinion: The two numbers that could get people to take the vaccine

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinion ... accinated/

Simply put, publish two numbers widely: deaths if unvaccinated, and deaths with vaccination.

Any deaths from vaccines?

3 deaths from vaccines (all three J&J) of 309,000,000 vaccine doses administered in the U.S. through June 7, 2021. 313,549 people died from Covid during that same period. 5,208 vaccinated people have died from all causes during that same period.

https://covid-101.org/science/how-many- ... n-the-u-s/
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracke ... endsdeaths

Should this really be a topic of discussion?

that is simply impossible unless the vaxx is the fountain of youth.

I thought that, too, but that's how the writer wrote the article. Let's assume the writer didn't mean it and 5,208 people with a vaccine dose died from Covid. 5,208 vs. 308,341 (vs. 3). My point remains - still not a topic for a reasonable discussion.

not exactly. the writer listed the number of deaths that were reported thru the vaers system.

some back of the napkin:
330 m people, typical year 2.8 - 2.9 m deaths.
0.8 percent.

3 months ago, ~110 million (33%) had been vaccinated.
forgetting even the lead up to then where people were getting vaxxed in growing numbers (longer) and that vaxxed people skewed much older... just since april 20 to june 7 (approx 47 days), you would expect 47/365 × 2,800,000 x .333 = 120,000 deaths. without any covid deaths, and also just from that 100 million, not those vaxxed after.

the vaers system is not only comically underutilized, it's mostly useless. maybe bigger numbers if it were really promoted would be too scary for everyone, feared taken out of context.

even i'm surprised at where we are with many items. and from the jump it's been my opinion that we were headed where we were headed (directionally, of course) regardless.

how, dare, you, question anything,.....get in line.

[CU88]

If my memory serves me right, all of the deplorables declared this was just the flu...

[wgdsr]

not just the flu, "like" the flu.

[youthathletics]

not just the flu, "like" the flu.

how, dare, you, question anything,.....get in line with cu88 or else.

[Brooklyn]

If my memory serves me right, all of the deplorables declared this was just the flu...

wgdsr » Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:38 pm

not just the flu, "like" the flu.

no worse than a cold ...

[Typical Lax Dad]

If my memory serves me right, all of the deplorables declared this was just the flu...

Yeah. Counting the flu as covid and counting motorcycle deaths as deaths by Covid. Fear Porn. That was 550,000 dead Americans ago.

[youthathletics]

Follow the science: https://twitter.com/TracyBethHoeg/statu ... 98725?s=20

The Flimsy Evidence Behind the CDC’s Push to Vaccinate Children

I say eff em....shoot em up.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Follow the science: https://twitter.com/TracyBethHoeg/statu ... 98725?s=20

The Flimsy Evidence Behind the CDC’s Push to Vaccinate Children

I say eff em....shoot em up.

What does infectious disease people say? Kids between 12-15 spread the virus? He takes cancer treatment advice from orthopedic surgeons?

[MDlaxfan76]

not just the flu, "like" the flu.

how, dare, you, question anything,.....get in line with cu88 or else.

Trump, Jan 26, 2020 : "This is a flu. This is like a flu," the president said in a briefing. "It's a little like a regular flu that we have flu shots for. And we'll essentially have a flu shot for this in a fairly quick manner."

and of course, much more. Even after he knew it was much more deadly.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/ ... f8ad5f9d2f

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN2102GY

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/we-sh ... us-not-flu

https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles ... e-flu.html

[youthathletics]

Neat technology: https://twitter.com/chungk1031/status/1 ... 80612?s=20

His 17 minute video: https://www.sccm.org/COVID19RapidResour ... VID-19-and

[MDlaxfan76]

Based on today's presser -- sounds like testing will be limited to those clinically diagnosed.
No mention of systematic testing/sampling to map undiagnosed community spread.

In my amateur analysis, 3 US hot spot clusters @ now :
1. Seattle, WA area
2. New Rochelle, NY
3. Santa Clara Co, CA

We got the D team on it:

Ask your wife if she believes there is possibility that the testing at smaller rural locals (not CDC) could be false positives for covid19, considering we are also not getting active updates of conventional seasonal flu as normal.

Maybe, just maybe, they are blended.

What’s blended?

Combination of cv19 and seasonal flu diagnosis.

no, two different tests.

and here was a bit of conflation...