All things CoronaVirus

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How many of your friends and family members have died of the Chinese Corona Virus?

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youthathletics wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:36 am
ggait wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:14 am
youthathletics wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:39 am Hmmmm....3 Texas dems test positive for cv-19 while in DC. https://www.statesman.com/story/news/po ... 002121002/

The BS Meter says something is fishy is going on....we'll see.
Breakthrough infections are very numerous. Just usually don’t get detected. If you are vaxed and asymptomatic, there’s little likelihood you are going to get tested.
Exactly my point....makes you wonder why they where tested in the first place, considering they are said to be vaccinated. Maybe it was just SOP upon entering the US Capitol, but then why did it take until Friday to get results, considering they have been there for well over a week. All while conveniently winding down the hourglass towards 6AUG, which happens to be the end of the special legislative session.

In police work they'd call that a clue, but in politics it would be called PR brilliance. Oh, and an even neater story...neither the VP or Schumer and friends who met with the Texas fleers, who they where in the rooms with, do not need be tested... strange world we live in. :lol:
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youthathletics wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:36 am
ggait wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:14 am
youthathletics wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:39 am Hmmmm....3 Texas dems test positive for cv-19 while in DC. https://www.statesman.com/story/news/po ... 002121002/

The BS Meter says something is fishy is going on....we'll see.
Breakthrough infections are very numerous. Just usually don’t get detected. If you are vaxed and asymptomatic, there’s little likelihood you are going to get tested.
Exactly my point....makes you wonder why they where tested in the first place, considering they are said to be vaccinated. Maybe it was just SOP upon entering the US Capitol, but then why did it take until Friday to get results, considering they have been there for well over a week. All while conveniently winding down the hourglass towards 6AUG, which happens to be the end of the special legislative session.

In police work they'd call that a clue, but in politics it would be called PR brilliance. Oh, and an even neater story...neither the VP or Schumer and friends who met with the Texas fleers, who they where in the rooms with, do not need be tested... strange world we live in. :lol:
Maybe it's me, but I am struggling to understand the point you are making. Can you just come out and say it?
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seacoaster wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:15 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:36 am
ggait wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:14 am
youthathletics wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:39 am Hmmmm....3 Texas dems test positive for cv-19 while in DC. https://www.statesman.com/story/news/po ... 002121002/

The BS Meter says something is fishy is going on....we'll see.
Breakthrough infections are very numerous. Just usually don’t get detected. If you are vaxed and asymptomatic, there’s little likelihood you are going to get tested.
Exactly my point....makes you wonder why they where tested in the first place, considering they are said to be vaccinated. Maybe it was just SOP upon entering the US Capitol, but then why did it take until Friday to get results, considering they have been there for well over a week. All while conveniently winding down the hourglass towards 6AUG, which happens to be the end of the special legislative session.

In police work they'd call that a clue, but in politics it would be called PR brilliance. Oh, and an even neater story...neither the VP or Schumer and friends who met with the Texas fleers, who they where in the rooms with, do not need be tested... strange world we live in. :lol:
Maybe it's me, but I am struggling to understand the point you are making. Can you just come out and say it?
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by cradleandshoot » Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:57 am
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:46 pm Image
flash really getting hosed on his physique here.
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wgdsr wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:51 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:46 pm Image
flash really getting hosed on his physique here.
His costume is predominantly red which is a clue that he is from a red state….the fact that he is scrawny suggest East Tennessee or Eastern Kentucky. The others’ costumes are mostly blue which is another clue. The puppet master has a striking resemblance to George Soros. Flash is forming a swastika.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:07 pm
wgdsr wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:51 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:46 pm Image
flash really getting hosed on his physique here.
His costume is predominantly red which is a clue that he is from a red state….the fact that he is scrawny suggest East Tennessee or Eastern Kentucky. The others’ costumes are mostly blue which is another clue. The puppet master has a striking resemblance to George Soros. Flash is forming a swastika.
all true.
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wgdsr wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:18 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:07 pm
wgdsr wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:51 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:46 pm Image
flash really getting hosed on his physique here.
His costume is predominantly red which is a clue that he is from a red state….the fact that he is scrawny suggest East Tennessee or Eastern Kentucky. The others’ costumes are mostly blue which is another clue. The puppet master has a striking resemblance to George Soros. Flash is forming a swastika.
all true.
Some guy said it on Twitter so it must be.
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Charts are visible online: https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substac ... tU4fw47p9s



Current State of Affairs: July 19
Things are changing fast

Katelyn Jetelina

It’s been seven days since my last “Current State of Affairs” and a lot has happened.

“Pandemic of Unvaccinated”

This new wave has been coined the “Pandemic of the Unvaccinated” by the CDC, White House, and Twitter. Let’s remember that this includes children that don’t have the option to be vaccinated. And, while it is true (99% of hospitalized are unvaccinated), this branding assumes that no one else is impacted. The unvaccinated are infecting and killing people who lack sufficient immunity due to underlying medical conditions. Even among healthy people, the unvaccinated are testing the limits of the vaccine and causing unnecessary breakthrough cases. I think a better name would be a “Pandemic of Self Over Others”.

Cases

Nonetheless, we are clearly in a new wave. COVID19 cases are up 140%, with clear exponential growth (second graph). It’s the first time since January that cases are increasing in every state. The severity of the wave, though, is unevenly distributed and concentrated in the South.

Transmission also continues to rise. Just in 7 days, 4 additional states entered CDC’s “high transmission” (red) category and 8 additional states entered into “substantial transmission” (orange). There is only one state with “low transmission” (hi, Vermont).

And things are escalating quickly. Tennessee continues to take the lead with a 14-day +340% increase in cases. Alabama and Florida closely follow. Massachusetts, California, and Vermont came out of nowhere and now land on the top 10 states with the highest case growth. This is particularly concerning given that Vermont and Massachusetts are two of the vaccination leaders. It will be interesting to see how their outbreaks differ in regards to hospitalizations.


Testing

Test positivity rate has crossed the 5% threshold, which is not good. And, worse, the number of tests continue to decrease. This tells us that we are not testing nearly enough. We are flying blind. Low testing numbers is likely due to three factors:

Mass testing sites have been transformed into vaccine sites;

States are just not reporting tests consistently any more. Some states continue to report cases daily, but some report weekly and others are reporting every few days.

People are just not actively seeking out testing due to pandemic fatigue. For example, in Texas, the majority of people pare only getting tested once they get to the hospital, meaning it’s far too late to curb their spread during their most infectious point.


Hospitalizations

22,622 souls are currently hospitalized in the United States for COVID19, which is a 34% increase. Hospitalizations lag cases by 3-4 weeks, so this metric will continue to increase. Especially among states with low vaccination rates.

State-level hospitalization rates are strongly correlated with vaccination rates. Among the states that are well on their way (Florida, Arkansas, Nevada), hospitalizations are outpacing the winter numbers.



Deaths

Deaths are slowly rising too, but case fatality rate is holding on at around 2%. Early data from Scotland showed the Delta was twice as likely to result in hospitalization in unvaccinated individuals, but other data has shown no difference. We continue to track this closely. Interestingly, Bloomberg pointed out that COVID19 continues to be a leading cause of death in the United States.


That’s it for now. Stay safe. And have a wonderful week.

Love, YLE
by cradleandshoot » Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:57 am
Mr moderator, deactivate my account.
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Coronapolitics:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... tely-risk/

"For many years, it has been fashionable to point out that there are “two Americas” — one blue, one red; one urban, one rural; one evangelical, one non-religious; one college-educated, one not. However, we risk adding a lethal new point of comparison: one America protected from covid-19 and largely back to normal, and one at continued peril.

Red states’ vaccination rates are lagging behind those of blue states, with predictable results.

Adjusted for population, nearly six times as many people died in South Dakota from covid-19 as in Vermont (230 per 100,000 in South Dakota compared to just 40 per 100,000 in Vermont). In real numbers, while about 250 Vermont residents died from the disease, more than 2,000 South Dakotans died,” Ashish K. Jha, the dean of Brown University’s School of Public Health, wrote in an op-ed for The Post, offering the states as contrasting examples of how vaccines make the pandemic less dangerous. “And as of today, Vermont has a lower unemployment rate, suggesting that there need not be any trade-off between public health and the economy.”

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) has become the poster boy for blocking mask mandates; denigrating Anthony S. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases — DeSantis’s political action committee sells swag emblazoned with the slogan “Don’t Fauci My Florida” — and anemic vaccination programs.

No surprise, then, that the Associated Press reports, “Florida’s covid-19 hospitalization numbers are again increasing, ending months of steady decline that began when widespread vaccinations became available and leaving doctors and epidemiologists worried as the more infectious delta variant spreads. About 3,200 COVID patients are hospitalized in the state, a jump of 73% since June 14, when 1,845 were hospitalized.… Florida reported 20% of the nation’s new coronavirus cases over the last two weeks even though it makes up just 6.5% of the population.”

These numbers are the result of a scandalous failure of governance that is all too familiar in red states.

Scientists and public health experts have no problem figuring out why Florida, and not some other warm-weather state, is doing so poorly. As the AP reported, “epidemiologists and doctors interviewed blame the spike on the state’s slowing vaccination rate, a decrease in mask-wearing and social distancing and the delta variant.”

(Ironically, conservatives in Florida are cheering on Cuban citizens who have taken to the streets to protest, among other things, the utter inability of the communist regime in that country to provide coronavirus vaccinations.)

It is the same story in Arkansas.

“While much of the nation tiptoes toward normalcy, the coronavirus is again swamping hospitals in places like Mountain Home, a city of fewer than 13,000 people not far from the Missouri border,” the New York Times reports. “A principal reason, health officials say, is the emergence of the new, far more contagious variant called Delta, which now accounts for more than half of new infections in the United States.”

If residents in Baxter County, where Mountain Home is located, had a vaccination rate comparable to those of, say, D.C. (54 percent fully vaccinated) or New Mexico (56.2 percent) instead of less than 33 percent, it might be a different story.

Worst of all — if one cares about children’s lives — Tennessee has announced it will “halt all adolescent vaccine outreach — not just for coronavirus, but all diseases — amid pressure from Republican state lawmakers,” the Tennessean reported.

While Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) may pretend to be baffled about what’s happening, it’s not rocket science. Anti-vaccination paranoia, MAGA covid-denial (especially rampant in White evangelical communities) and weak state government vaccination programs all contribute to a situation in which red states lag the rest of the country in getting shots in arms. Where vaccination rates lag, infections, hospitalizations and death rates will eventually spike.

The right-wing political environment and media diet are a serious danger to vast swaths of America. They provide a constant stream of vaccine skepticism. One wonders when the residents of these states will look around and begin to wonder why their states are effectively becoming third-world pandemic zones in a country entirely capable of preventing the vast majority of covid-19 deaths. They just might reach the conclusion that the right-wing, anti-science MAGA cult is killing them
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... too stupid to live!
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/19/us/i ... tw-nytimes

"In what appeared to be the first ruling upholding a coronavirus vaccine mandate by a university, a federal judge affirmed on Monday that Indiana University could require that its students be vaccinated against the virus.

A lawyer for eight student plaintiffs had argued that requiring the vaccine violated their right to bodily integrity and autonomy, and that the coronavirus vaccines have only emergency use authorization from the Food and Drug Administration, and should not be considered as part of the normal range of vaccinations schools require. He vowed an appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court if necessary.

“What we have here is the government forcing you to do something that you strenuously object to and have your body invaded in the process,” said the lawyer, James Bopp Jr.

He said that the appeal would be paid for by America’s Frontline Doctors, a conservative organization that has been pursuing an anti-vaccine agenda. Mr. Bopp, of Terre Haute, Ind., is known for his legal advocacy promoting conservative causes.

Mr. Bopp filed the lawsuit in June, after Indiana University announced the previous month that faculty, staff and students would be required to get coronavirus vaccinations before coming to school this fall.

The university, whose main campus is in Bloomington, Ind., said that students who did not comply would have their class registrations canceled and would be barred from campus activities.

The requirement permitted exemptions only for religious objections, documented allergies to the vaccine, medical deferrals and virtual class attendance.

On Monday, Judge Damon R. Leichty of the U.S. District Court for Northern Indiana said that while he recognized the students’ interest in refusing unwarranted medical treatment, such a right must be weighed against the state’s greater interest.

“The Fourteenth Amendment permits Indiana University to pursue a reasonable and due process of vaccination in the legitimate interest of public health for its students, faculty and staff,” his ruling said, also noting that the university had made exceptions for students who object.

Judge Leichty was appointed by former President Donald J. Trump.

Universities around the country have taken different positions on the question of requiring coronavirus vaccines, with about 400 campuses mandating vaccines. Students on several campuses have filed or threatened lawsuits."
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by tech37 » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:18 pm

Obviously, college vaxx mandates are a problem... lots of law suits ahead.
Actually tech37, they are not a problem at all.

Sure some mouth breathers will bring a few stupid cases. And those cases will get tossed as quick as a Rudy/Kraken Sid election challenge case.

Kids are free to attend college online if they don't want to get vaxed. While their vaxed friends will be out partying like it is 1999. ;)
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ggait wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:32 pm
by tech37 » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:18 pm

Obviously, college vaxx mandates are a problem... lots of law suits ahead.
Actually tech37, they are not a problem at all.

Sure some mouth breathers will bring a few stupid cases. And those cases will get tossed as quick as a Rudy/Kraken Sid election challenge case.

Kids are free to attend college online if they don't want to get vaxed. While their vaxed friends will be out partying like it is 1999. ;)
I thought the pandemic was going to be the end of in person higher education? These people are free to stay at home and use zoom.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:05 pm
ggait wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:32 pm
by tech37 » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:18 pm

Obviously, college vaxx mandates are a problem... lots of law suits ahead.
Actually tech37, they are not a problem at all.

Sure some mouth breathers will bring a few stupid cases. And those cases will get tossed as quick as a Rudy/Kraken Sid election challenge case.

Kids are free to attend college online if they don't want to get vaxed. While their vaxed friends will be out partying like it is 1999. ;)
I thought the pandemic was going to be the end of in person higher education? These people are free to stay at home and use zoom.
The IU case will be appealed by the plaintiffs. The appeal will be funded by “American Frontline Doctors,” an anti-vaccine group founded by Dr. Simone Gold, who has been indicted for several offenses alleged to have been committed at the U.S. Capitol on January 6.

So it’s completely on brand.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:05 pm
ggait wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:32 pm
by tech37 » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:18 pm

Obviously, college vaxx mandates are a problem... lots of law suits ahead.
Actually tech37, they are not a problem at all.

Sure some mouth breathers will bring a few stupid cases. And those cases will get tossed as quick as a Rudy/Kraken Sid election challenge case.

Kids are free to attend college online if they don't want to get vaxed. While their vaxed friends will be out partying like it is 1999. ;)
I thought the pandemic was going to be the end of in person higher education? These people are free to stay at home and use zoom.
We don't have enough n95's....you are hogging all of them. :lol:
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youthathletics wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:07 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:05 pm
ggait wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:32 pm
by tech37 » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:18 pm

Obviously, college vaxx mandates are a problem... lots of law suits ahead.
Actually tech37, they are not a problem at all.

Sure some mouth breathers will bring a few stupid cases. And those cases will get tossed as quick as a Rudy/Kraken Sid election challenge case.

Kids are free to attend college online if they don't want to get vaxed. While their vaxed friends will be out partying like it is 1999. ;)
I thought the pandemic was going to be the end of in person higher education? These people are free to stay at home and use zoom.
We don't have enough n95's....you are hogging all of them. :lol:
May waste my money on some more.
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The market price on TLD's N95s going up:

Dr. Scott Gottlieb, former head of the Food and Drug Administration:

"Quality of mask is going to make a difference with a variant that spreads more aggressively like Delta does, where people are more contagious and exude more virus. Trying to get N95 masks into the hands of vulnerable individuals in places where this is really epidemic I think is going to be important, even in cases where they're vaccinated, if they want to add another layer of protection."
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ggait wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:38 pm The market price on TLD's N95s going up:

Dr. Scott Gottlieb, former head of the Food and Drug Administration:

"Quality of mask is going to make a difference with a variant that spreads more aggressively like Delta does, where people are more contagious and exude more virus. Trying to get N95 masks into the hands of vulnerable individuals in places where this is really epidemic I think is going to be important, even in cases where they're vaccinated, if they want to add another layer of protection."
does he mean it didn't make a difference with the original strain?

not worried, we have a covid squash plan in place for production.
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