All things CoronaVirus

[MDlaxfan76]

for the numbers folks out there:
55.5% of the entire pop has gotten one shot. that's 183 million.
eligible are -- approx 280 million.
that leaves -- 97 million eligible, who have not.

trump received 74 million votes. "republicans" supposedly have gotten about 50% shots. let's assume for a moment all of those voting there didn't include a huge swath of independents (vaccinated in higher numbers), and are deciding to keep their 12-17 year olds from getting vaxxed at a similar rate. so 37 million + 4.15.

that leaves... 97 - 37 - 4.15 = 55.85 million people who aren't all in on maga who haven't gotten around to being vaxxed yet. 56 million.

we gotta get those mouth breathers in line. maybe door-to-door is the trick.

Trying to follow your math...looks correct...call it 56 million who didn't vote for Trump...what percentage of these would we guess didn't vote at all? Checked out from civic life?

My political analysis of the Trump phenomenon was that he lost lots of votes that might have gone to a more moderate R, both R and Ind regular voters, but pulled in a huge number of people who rarely vote, rarely participate. There was quite a lot of bragging about exactly such folks, people who hadn't voted in decades being stirred to come vote for him.

I'm not so sure Biden brought in a lot of those such, rather his surge was more about regular, civically engaged voters simply choosing his lever over Trump.

That said, though record turnout, a third of eligible voters still didn't vote. I'm not so sure public health outreach door to door to going to sway many of those in the more deep red rural and exurban areas to get vaccinated, though some, but it's quite possible that those efforts will be most effective for those who are just overwhelmed in their lives with other issues and simply need help getting it done.

Maybe that's a trucker who felt he couldn't take a day off...maybe it's a bodega owner who just hasn't found the time...maybe it's a mom with two kids and a drug habit... maybe its a homeless man...all sorts of possibilities.

[MDlaxfan76]

Facts is facts.

Lowest vax states are ID, WY, LA, Ark, Miss, Ala.

That's Cracker Barrel, not Whole Foods.

Some of those folks are young. Some are of color. Some are rednecks.

All are misinformed. Many (but not all) are stupid/blind, often due to the MAGA glasses they see the world through.

Out here in Colorado, 9 of the top 10 counties in the state for vaccination rates voted for Biden. 29 of the bottom 30 counties for vaccination rates voted for Trump. Pretty simple and pretty obvious.

I hope the MAGAs change their minds before we head into the cold weather. We're close to one family with lots and lots of serious pre-existing conditions. Not one of them is vaxed. We stopped talking about it once we heard about Bill Gates' brain chips. I doubt they'd get vaxed even if they had a death in that family. It is really messed up.

... IRCC of the top 25 most vaccinated states, 24 voted for Biden. Iowa the only Trump supporting state in the top 25. These people are too stupid to live. Jim Jones and his cult have nothing on these people. They are not going to change anytime soon. Day of reckoning likely coming for some of these folks.

And I bet nothing would make you happier, your obsession with Covid is borderline unhealthy. Enjoy your life, there are so many other things to do and spending your time worrying about. Get outside, go golfing, play tennis, take a beautiful hike, etc. Instead of sitting here worrying about who's unvaccinated in states nearly 1000 miles away from where you live.

MD,

This response is directed at JHU, I am preemptively letting you know that one of your dissertations is not necessary, and unwanted. Thanks.

Joe

... oh, I will lose sleep over that.

Pretty funny that people are complaining about CoronaVirus related comments on this thread...

Yes, Joe has quite the obsession for telling people they should discuss Covid on the Covid thread...pretty much any thread was off limits for such discussion even at the peak of 600K+ US deaths and all of its spillover effects into nearly all facets of life. We should all pretend it's fine...

And now, it's apparently off limits to discuss the reality that the surge in cases this summer is happening where a high proportion of people are refusing to get vaccinated; and off limits to discuss the reality that 98% of deaths now are people who refused to be vaccinated.

No dissertation, Joe; just a reminder that you're a happier camper when you stick to the lax threads...you've got lots to offer there, esp. on the women's side. Strong knowledge and insights.

Don't let people discussing Covid or politics in the Covid thread or Politics threads bother you.

Just because I made the comment doesn't mean I'm unaware that there's a rise in cases in certain states. My point is that all JHU does is attempt to stoke fear, not have an honest discussion regarding covid. This little forum is far from reality, anyone who says anything different is willfully ignorant. Why is it newsworthy that unvaccinated people are contracting covid and those happen to be the same people that are dying? WOULDN'T it be MORE newsworthy if those WHO WERE VACCINATED were the ones contracting covid, getting severely ill, and dying? Then we would be in REAL trouble. Be thankful that's not the case and is not going to be the case. That's right, I prefer to stick to lacrosse, but don't me tell where and when I am out of my element. My suggestion is why don't you volunteer to be a part of Biden's team going door to door encouraging those unvaccinated to get vaccinated. Let's see some of the reactions you get then, I guarantee it makes me look like Mr. Rogers!! You are an egotistical, elitist, stubborn fool that feels an insatiable desire to "educate" others , often in areas you don't have a clue what you are talking about.


Joe

Seriously, Joe, you're a happier camper when you stick to lax.
Don't like what folks write here, don't read it.

[RedFromMI]

Really good article on the relative risks to kids for the coronavirus:

https://t.co/d0NgPLF1ha

Worth a read…

[Typical Lax Dad]

Really good article on the relative risks to kids for the coronavirus:

https://t.co/d0NgPLF1ha

Worth a read…

Thanks for posting that

[Brooklyn]

mindless CONservatives happy to see covid spread around:




https://i.imgur.com/YKsc0kU.png



utterly mindless

[CU88]

Another wave is coming:

Over the weekend, the WHO said that there are 24 countries that have “epidemic curves that are almost vertical now”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYeYIoWViNQ

USA cases are on the rise and the graphed data curve is starting to "look" vertical:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracke ... _community




https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substac ... rs-july-12

[jhu72]

Another wave is coming:

Over the weekend, the WHO said that there are 24 countries that have “epidemic curves that are almost vertical now”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYeYIoWViNQ

USA cases are on the rise and the graphed data curve is starting to "look" vertical:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracke ... _community




https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substac ... rs-july-12

COVID hospitalization rates are up 25% or more in 14 states over the past two weeks. 98% of admissions are unvaccinated. Shame vax rates fell off two months ago. Hubris!

[CU88]

Another wave is coming:

Over the weekend, the WHO said that there are 24 countries that have “epidemic curves that are almost vertical now”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYeYIoWViNQ

USA cases are on the rise and the graphed data curve is starting to "look" vertical:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracke ... _community




https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substac ... rs-july-12

COVID hospitalization rates are up 25% or more in 14 states over the past two weeks. 98% of admissions are unvaccinated. Shame vax rates fell off two months ago. Hubris!

I am to the point that we need to pay 2x IMPOTUS o d a fee for every person he can get to take the darn shot! Give him credit and money to have people protect themselves from COVID.

[jhu72]

Another wave is coming:

Over the weekend, the WHO said that there are 24 countries that have “epidemic curves that are almost vertical now”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYeYIoWViNQ

USA cases are on the rise and the graphed data curve is starting to "look" vertical:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracke ... _community




https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substac ... rs-july-12

COVID hospitalization rates are up 25% or more in 14 states over the past two weeks. 98% of admissions are unvaccinated. Shame vax rates fell off two months ago. Hubris!

I am to the point that we need to pay 2x IMPOTUS o d a fee for every person he can get to take the darn shot! Give him credit and money to have people protect themselves from COVID.

... I am not sure that would help. These are the same kind of people who took 10 years or more to socialize into buckling seatbelts. The same people who complained endlessly over Michelle Obama recommending kids eat healthy food. "You can't tell me what to feed my kids!"

Frankly, I am well beyond the point of caring about these people. Those with access problems, sure; those with political agendas, F'em! Trump doesn't care about them, his enablers applaud the stupidity as do their media whores.

[DocBarrister]

Facts is facts.

Lowest vax states are ID, WY, LA, Ark, Miss, Ala.

That's Cracker Barrel, not Whole Foods.

Some of those folks are young. Some are of color. Some are rednecks.

All are misinformed. Many (but not all) are stupid/blind, often due to the MAGA glasses they see the world through.

Out here in Colorado, 9 of the top 10 counties in the state for vaccination rates voted for Biden. 29 of the bottom 30 counties for vaccination rates voted for Trump. Pretty simple and pretty obvious.

I hope the MAGAs change their minds before we head into the cold weather. We're close to one family with lots and lots of serious pre-existing conditions. Not one of them is vaxed. We stopped talking about it once we heard about Bill Gates' brain chips. I doubt they'd get vaxed even if they had a death in that family. It is really messed up.

... IRCC of the top 25 most vaccinated states, 24 voted for Biden. Iowa the only Trump supporting state in the top 25. These people are too stupid to live. Jim Jones and his cult have nothing on these people. They are not going to change anytime soon. Day of reckoning likely coming for some of these folks.

And I bet nothing would make you happier, your obsession with Covid is borderline unhealthy. Enjoy your life, there are so many other things to do and spending your time worrying about. Get outside, go golfing, play tennis, take a beautiful hike, etc. Instead of sitting here worrying about who's unvaccinated in states nearly 1000 miles away from where you live.

MD,

This response is directed at JHU, I am preemptively letting you know that one of your dissertations is not necessary, and unwanted. Thanks.

Joe

... oh, I will lose sleep over that.

Pretty funny that people are complaining about CoronaVirus related comments on this thread...

Yes, Joe has quite the obsession for telling people they should discuss Covid on the Covid thread...pretty much any thread was off limits for such discussion even at the peak of 600K+ US deaths and all of its spillover effects into nearly all facets of life. We should all pretend it's fine...

And now, it's apparently off limits to discuss the reality that the surge in cases this summer is happening where a high proportion of people are refusing to get vaccinated; and off limits to discuss the reality that 98% of deaths now are people who refused to be vaccinated.

No dissertation, Joe; just a reminder that you're a happier camper when you stick to the lax threads...you've got lots to offer there, esp. on the women's side. Strong knowledge and insights.

Don't let people discussing Covid or politics in the Covid thread or Politics threads bother you.

Just because I made the comment doesn't mean I'm unaware that there's a rise in cases in certain states. My point is that all JHU does is attempt to stoke fear, not have an honest discussion regarding covid. This little forum is far from reality, anyone who says anything different is willfully ignorant. Why is it newsworthy that unvaccinated people are contracting covid and those happen to be the same people that are dying? WOULDN'T it be MORE newsworthy if those WHO WERE VACCINATED were the ones contracting covid, getting severely ill, and dying? Then we would be in REAL trouble. Be thankful that's not the case and is not going to be the case. That's right, I prefer to stick to lacrosse, but don't me tell where and when I am out of my element. My suggestion is why don't you volunteer to be a part of Biden's team going door to door encouraging those unvaccinated to get vaccinated. Let's see some of the reactions you get then, I guarantee it makes me look like Mr. Rogers!! You are an egotistical, elitist, stubborn fool that feels an insatiable desire to "educate" others , often in areas you don't have a clue what you are talking about.


Joe

People dying unnecessarily is always newsworthy. There is something seriously wrong with your moral compass.

DocBarrister

[PizzaSnake]

"The US is averaging about 19,455 new cases over the last seven days, a 47% increase from the week prior, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. And a third of those, CNN Medical Analyst Dr. Jonathan Reiner said, come from five hot spots: Florida, Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri and Nevada.
"In places like Missouri where ICUs are packed, you're going to see a surprising amount of death," Reiner said on Sunday.
At Mercy Hospital in Springfield, Missouri, 91% of ICU patients are on ventilators and many are in their 20s, 30s and 40s, Chief Administrative Officer Erik Frederick told CNN Saturday. That is especially concerning, he said, because at the peak last year there were only 40 to 50% of ICU patients on ventilators."

Stupid is as stupid does.

"Smoke up, Johnny!!"

[Typical Lax Dad]

Another wave is coming:

Over the weekend, the WHO said that there are 24 countries that have “epidemic curves that are almost vertical now”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYeYIoWViNQ

USA cases are on the rise and the graphed data curve is starting to "look" vertical:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracke ... _community




https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substac ... rs-july-12

COVID hospitalization rates are up 25% or more in 14 states over the past two weeks. 98% of admissions are unvaccinated. Shame vax rates fell off two months ago. Hubris!

I am to the point that we need to pay 2x IMPOTUS o d a fee for every person he can get to take the darn shot! Give him credit and money to have people protect themselves from COVID.

... I am not sure that would help. These are the same kind of people who took 10 years or more to socialize into buckling seatbelts. The same people who complained endlessly over Michelle Obama recommending kids eat healthy food. "You can't tell me what to feed my kids!"

Frankly, I am well beyond the point of caring about these people. Those with access problems, sure; those with political agendas, F'em! Trump doesn't care about them, his enablers applaud the stupidity as do their media whores.

I am in the F’em camp. Leave them behind. I would deny them insurance coverage unless there was a medical reason to go unvaccinated.

[jhu72]

Another wave is coming:

Over the weekend, the WHO said that there are 24 countries that have “epidemic curves that are almost vertical now”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYeYIoWViNQ

USA cases are on the rise and the graphed data curve is starting to "look" vertical:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracke ... _community




https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substac ... rs-july-12

COVID hospitalization rates are up 25% or more in 14 states over the past two weeks. 98% of admissions are unvaccinated. Shame vax rates fell off two months ago. Hubris!

I am to the point that we need to pay 2x IMPOTUS o d a fee for every person he can get to take the darn shot! Give him credit and money to have people protect themselves from COVID.

... I am not sure that would help. These are the same kind of people who took 10 years or more to socialize into buckling seatbelts. The same people who complained endlessly over Michelle Obama recommending kids eat healthy food. "You can't tell me what to feed my kids!"

Frankly, I am well beyond the point of caring about these people. Those with access problems, sure; those with political agendas, F'em! Trump doesn't care about them, his enablers applaud the stupidity as do their media whores.

I am in the F’em camp. Leave them behind. I would deny them insurance coverage unless there was a medical reason to go unvaccinated.

... can certainly sympathize, but it is not necessary to take any punitive actions. They aren't done punishing themselves yet. The will accrue indirect, unintended, punishments due to the stupid laws red state governors are looking to enact. They will help push red states blue on a shorter timeline.

[jhu72]

A better place to put vaccine mobilization dollars.

[JoeMauer89]

Facts is facts.

Lowest vax states are ID, WY, LA, Ark, Miss, Ala.

That's Cracker Barrel, not Whole Foods.

Some of those folks are young. Some are of color. Some are rednecks.

All are misinformed. Many (but not all) are stupid/blind, often due to the MAGA glasses they see the world through.

Out here in Colorado, 9 of the top 10 counties in the state for vaccination rates voted for Biden. 29 of the bottom 30 counties for vaccination rates voted for Trump. Pretty simple and pretty obvious.

I hope the MAGAs change their minds before we head into the cold weather. We're close to one family with lots and lots of serious pre-existing conditions. Not one of them is vaxed. We stopped talking about it once we heard about Bill Gates' brain chips. I doubt they'd get vaxed even if they had a death in that family. It is really messed up.

... IRCC of the top 25 most vaccinated states, 24 voted for Biden. Iowa the only Trump supporting state in the top 25. These people are too stupid to live. Jim Jones and his cult have nothing on these people. They are not going to change anytime soon. Day of reckoning likely coming for some of these folks.

And I bet nothing would make you happier, your obsession with Covid is borderline unhealthy. Enjoy your life, there are so many other things to do and spending your time worrying about. Get outside, go golfing, play tennis, take a beautiful hike, etc. Instead of sitting here worrying about who's unvaccinated in states nearly 1000 miles away from where you live.

MD,

This response is directed at JHU, I am preemptively letting you know that one of your dissertations is not necessary, and unwanted. Thanks.

Joe

... oh, I will lose sleep over that.

Pretty funny that people are complaining about CoronaVirus related comments on this thread...

Yes, Joe has quite the obsession for telling people they should discuss Covid on the Covid thread...pretty much any thread was off limits for such discussion even at the peak of 600K+ US deaths and all of its spillover effects into nearly all facets of life. We should all pretend it's fine...

And now, it's apparently off limits to discuss the reality that the surge in cases this summer is happening where a high proportion of people are refusing to get vaccinated; and off limits to discuss the reality that 98% of deaths now are people who refused to be vaccinated.

No dissertation, Joe; just a reminder that you're a happier camper when you stick to the lax threads...you've got lots to offer there, esp. on the women's side. Strong knowledge and insights.

Don't let people discussing Covid or politics in the Covid thread or Politics threads bother you.

Just because I made the comment doesn't mean I'm unaware that there's a rise in cases in certain states. My point is that all JHU does is attempt to stoke fear, not have an honest discussion regarding covid. This little forum is far from reality, anyone who says anything different is willfully ignorant. Why is it newsworthy that unvaccinated people are contracting covid and those happen to be the same people that are dying? WOULDN'T it be MORE newsworthy if those WHO WERE VACCINATED were the ones contracting covid, getting severely ill, and dying? Then we would be in REAL trouble. Be thankful that's not the case and is not going to be the case. That's right, I prefer to stick to lacrosse, but don't me tell where and when I am out of my element. My suggestion is why don't you volunteer to be a part of Biden's team going door to door encouraging those unvaccinated to get vaccinated. Let's see some of the reactions you get then, I guarantee it makes me look like Mr. Rogers!! You are an egotistical, elitist, stubborn fool that feels an insatiable desire to "educate" others , often in areas you don't have a clue what you are talking about.


Joe

People dying unnecessarily is always newsworthy. There is something seriously wrong with your moral compass.

DocBarrister

No there isn't. There's something seriously wrong with the way your hatred for one person influences nearly aspect of what you post. Live your god damn life and stop worrying about someone who is no longer running the country. You are a cartoon character, nothing more, nothing less. I could care less about those that are unvaccinated. Either they will suffer whatever consequences you liberals deem "coming to them, or they won't" Guess what will happen after that? Life will go on, and so on and so forth. Go worry about Blue Jay Lacrosse and post some ridiculous takes in that thread. Your inane attempts at stoking divisiveness are just that, lame.


Joe

[jhu72]

... FDA reports J&J vaccine has a probability of causing Guillain-Barré syndrome. 100 cases out of over 8 million shots in the US. No such seen in the mRNA vaccines.

[MDlaxfan76]

Facts is facts.

Lowest vax states are ID, WY, LA, Ark, Miss, Ala.

That's Cracker Barrel, not Whole Foods.

Some of those folks are young. Some are of color. Some are rednecks.

All are misinformed. Many (but not all) are stupid/blind, often due to the MAGA glasses they see the world through.

Out here in Colorado, 9 of the top 10 counties in the state for vaccination rates voted for Biden. 29 of the bottom 30 counties for vaccination rates voted for Trump. Pretty simple and pretty obvious.

I hope the MAGAs change their minds before we head into the cold weather. We're close to one family with lots and lots of serious pre-existing conditions. Not one of them is vaxed. We stopped talking about it once we heard about Bill Gates' brain chips. I doubt they'd get vaxed even if they had a death in that family. It is really messed up.

... IRCC of the top 25 most vaccinated states, 24 voted for Biden. Iowa the only Trump supporting state in the top 25. These people are too stupid to live. Jim Jones and his cult have nothing on these people. They are not going to change anytime soon. Day of reckoning likely coming for some of these folks.

And I bet nothing would make you happier, your obsession with Covid is borderline unhealthy. Enjoy your life, there are so many other things to do and spending your time worrying about. Get outside, go golfing, play tennis, take a beautiful hike, etc. Instead of sitting here worrying about who's unvaccinated in states nearly 1000 miles away from where you live.

MD,

This response is directed at JHU, I am preemptively letting you know that one of your dissertations is not necessary, and unwanted. Thanks.

Joe

... oh, I will lose sleep over that.

Pretty funny that people are complaining about CoronaVirus related comments on this thread...

Yes, Joe has quite the obsession for telling people they should discuss Covid on the Covid thread...pretty much any thread was off limits for such discussion even at the peak of 600K+ US deaths and all of its spillover effects into nearly all facets of life. We should all pretend it's fine...

And now, it's apparently off limits to discuss the reality that the surge in cases this summer is happening where a high proportion of people are refusing to get vaccinated; and off limits to discuss the reality that 98% of deaths now are people who refused to be vaccinated.

No dissertation, Joe; just a reminder that you're a happier camper when you stick to the lax threads...you've got lots to offer there, esp. on the women's side. Strong knowledge and insights.

Don't let people discussing Covid or politics in the Covid thread or Politics threads bother you.

Just because I made the comment doesn't mean I'm unaware that there's a rise in cases in certain states. My point is that all JHU does is attempt to stoke fear, not have an honest discussion regarding covid. This little forum is far from reality, anyone who says anything different is willfully ignorant. Why is it newsworthy that unvaccinated people are contracting covid and those happen to be the same people that are dying? WOULDN'T it be MORE newsworthy if those WHO WERE VACCINATED were the ones contracting covid, getting severely ill, and dying? Then we would be in REAL trouble. Be thankful that's not the case and is not going to be the case. That's right, I prefer to stick to lacrosse, but don't me tell where and when I am out of my element. My suggestion is why don't you volunteer to be a part of Biden's team going door to door encouraging those unvaccinated to get vaccinated. Let's see some of the reactions you get then, I guarantee it makes me look like Mr. Rogers!! You are an egotistical, elitist, stubborn fool that feels an insatiable desire to "educate" others , often in areas you don't have a clue what you are talking about.


Joe

People dying unnecessarily is always newsworthy. There is something seriously wrong with your moral compass.

DocBarrister

No there isn't. There's something seriously wrong with the way your hatred for one person influences nearly aspect of what you post. Live your god damn life and stop worrying about someone who is no longer running the country. You are a cartoon character, nothing more, nothing less. I could care less about those that are unvaccinated. Either they will suffer whatever consequences you liberals deem "coming to them, or they won't" Guess what will happen after that? Life will go on, and so on and so forth. Go worry about Blue Jay Lacrosse and post some ridiculous takes in that thread. Your inane attempts at stoking divisiveness are just that, lame.


Joe

Joe, seriously, chill.
You jumped into a discussion (which is your right), but with an immediate attack on other posters.
Not helpful to anyone, including yourself.

[MDlaxfan76]

Another wave is coming:

Over the weekend, the WHO said that there are 24 countries that have “epidemic curves that are almost vertical now”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYeYIoWViNQ

USA cases are on the rise and the graphed data curve is starting to "look" vertical:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracke ... _community




https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substac ... rs-july-12

COVID hospitalization rates are up 25% or more in 14 states over the past two weeks. 98% of admissions are unvaccinated. Shame vax rates fell off two months ago. Hubris!

I am to the point that we need to pay 2x IMPOTUS o d a fee for every person he can get to take the darn shot! Give him credit and money to have people protect themselves from COVID.

... I am not sure that would help. These are the same kind of people who took 10 years or more to socialize into buckling seatbelts. The same people who complained endlessly over Michelle Obama recommending kids eat healthy food. "You can't tell me what to feed my kids!"

Frankly, I am well beyond the point of caring about these people. Those with access problems, sure; those with political agendas, F'em! Trump doesn't care about them, his enablers applaud the stupidity as do their media whores.

I am in the F’em camp. Leave them behind. I would deny them insurance coverage unless there was a medical reason to go unvaccinated.

The carrot and sticks worked with seat belts. When you could get a lower insurance rate if you committed to wearing a seat belt, with the stick that you'd not have any coverage if it was found that you weren't wearing a seat belt, people signed up in droves and changed their behaviors.

The car companies putting in the alarms if you didn't secure your seat belt helped a ton too.

So did fines for getting caught not wearing a seat belt, but people were resistant about that one...at first. Now, it's almost never necessary.

Behavioral economics 101: Many people won't do what's in their own best interest, if there's an immediate cost to doing so and the less certain benefits are in the future. Have to change the immediate equation to more cost now to not doing something with longterm benefits; or increase the benefits now for doing the right thing.

[admin]

Joe, seriously, chill.
You jumped into a discussion (which is your right), but with an immediate attack on other posters.
Not helpful to anyone, including yourself.

[wgdsr]

... FDA reports J&J vaccine has a probability of causing Guillain-Barré syndrome. 100 cases out of over 8 million shots in the US. No such seen in the mRNA vaccines.

well, that beats the 76 swine flu!! that went well, reverberating for decades:
https://www.discovermagazine.com/health ... u-outbreak