Good riddance to bad rubbish. Turn off your TV, read, learn, and engage in spirited debate, and contribute to the civil discourse of an involved, critical-thinking polity.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:23 amMy guess is that the TV ratings will go righter down the crapper. It is difficult to me to understand how our country could screw up the Olympics... but it looks like we found a way.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:17 amcradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:42 amWhat is being overlooked here should be as plain as the nose on our faces. What is the goal of the US Olympic team besides winning medals? The games and the team are suppose to put American fannies in front of their TV sets to watch the games and support their favorite athletes. Unless this woman is given the boot, I won't watch one single second of the Olympics. I'm guessing and hoping that millions more of my fellow Americans join me in doing so. If this person can protest with no repercussions then Americans can protest as well by refusing to watch. I'm guessing that the TV executives of whatever network that is televising the games understand the possible problem they will have with ratings very well. There is nothing like having an athlete throw a live hand grenade into the middle of the audience you are trying to attract.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:31 amcradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:18 amI do not respect the intent of her protest. She is not Colin Kaepernick, she is SUPPOSE to be representing the United States of America. She has to have to have the ability to put aside her political beliefs and animosity for as long as she has been given this honor and this opportunity that many thousands of athletes would give anything to achieve.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:40 amWell, in the real world, the coach gets sent home.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:13 amIn this instance I don't care about their reasoning. If your beliefs are so strong, stay home. They are going to embarrass their team mates and their country with a selfish protest against their country. Yes I believe it is a symbolic gesture showing hatred and contempt towards your country. I think her behavior was contemptible, you think she a modern day heroine. Got it Lima Charlie. In my world her coach tells her to pack her bags and go home. That would be mean spirited wouldn't it?MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:15 pmyup, that's you think...that it's based on a lie about the reasoning folks like this gal have ("they hate their country", they have "personal biases against their country") is of no matter to you. Ignore their reasoning, all that matters is your assumptions, wrong as they may be.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:08 pmWhen your representing your COUNTRY your representing all Americans. If you can't put your personal biases against your country on the sidelines for 10 days. Then stay home and stand by your principles. IMO her coach should have had a heart to heart with her and put it in no uncertain terms. She could choose to make up her own mind. If she can't then the coach should find another athlete to take her place.
Got it.
But hey, go ahead and move to China or NK if you want it the other way.
No, I don't think she's a heroine.
And I'd prefer that she had another way to express her views.
However, I respect the intent of such protests, and I fully accept that those who protest typically love our country's ideals and best aspirations. Doesn't mean that a protester couldn't 'hate' or have 'contempt' for the country, but I don't read any of that in these particular sorts of protests, certainly not automatically.
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This picture is worth a thousand words IMO. Her 2 team mates are standing on the podium with their hands on their hearts. She is standing there sulking. She even comments in the article she was pi**ed they had the audacity to play that anthem while she was standing up there. I hope here coach and or whoever is in charge of our olympic athletes kicks her sorry ass of the team. She does not deserve to represent America. She has the right to her opinion but not at the expense of humiliating and embarrassing the entire US team. Which is exactly what she did, at least in my eyes she did.
I’m not saying this is true of MD per se, but most liberals don’t really subscribe to American pride and excellence, so the Olympics to them is about individual effort rather than country unity.
Half of America sees the world differently very differently than the other half.
The thing is, the Left will ultimately ruin the Olympics spirit, just as they ruin most other things. Americans will find alternative sports heroes to cheer. Nelly Korda is a great example of a person that Americans can happily cheer, and she will appreciate their support.
For the Olympics, the left will now pressure all blacks and wobbly whites to celebrate woke protests, and you will see a number of other athletes do what Gwen did, likely even worse (I can totally see one athlete burn the American flag, that protest that MD celebrates as uniquely American and something to laud).
And the decline of the Olympics, at least from an American perspective, will accelerate. The left are locusts, stripping all life from whatever they attack.
Full disclosure here, I normally would not watch very much of the Olympics. The decision to ignore the games completely was just made a whole lot easier.
This of course is the risk liberals take when pushing the envelope of America hatred. I hate cancel culture with passion, but my suspicion is many fewer viewers will tune in to American hating athletes who proudly wear their hatred on their sleeves.
People love sports. But normal Americans prefer the politics to be left behind. The left is not that. They want politics first.
It’ll be interesting to see how quickly Puma drops their sponsorship of Gwen when she fails to get into the final round let alone actually wins. She’s about the 40th ranked in the world for the hammer toss. Puma picks her over the two American gals who are better than she is, for the reasons that they think the jhu72’s of the world outnumber patriotic Americans. Bad bet.
Meanwhile, viewers like you will ignore the telly because of the growing ‘protests’ (errr, hatred of America).
Here’s a good bet. Over under on how many American athletes do what Gwen does? Will they even participate in an opening ceremony?
It's okay to disagree, but you need to explain and justify your positions beyond "cause Jeebus, my neighbor or some TV tool says so."