All things CoronaVirus

[PizzaSnake]

"As of Monday morning, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that nearly 9.5 million more women than men have been vaccinated in the U.S.,1 and in the 42 states2 that collect gender data, a greater share of women are getting the vaccine as well. The magnitude of the gender gap varies from state to state but has hovered just below 10 percentage points on average over the past month."

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/wh ... ion-rates/

“Here's all you have to know about men and women: women are crazy, men are stupid. And the main reason women are crazy is that men are stupid.” George Carlin

[jhu72]

A number of Maryland healthcare providers yesterday notified their employees that they must be vaccinated to keep their jobs from here on out.

[jhu72]

Over the year 881 Secret Service Agents came down with COVID. More than half of them were assigned to the President and Vice President and their families. The data runs the year March 2020 through February 2021.

[jhu72]

Editorial: Missouri politicians said COVID fight was socialism, now the state is #1-in new cases.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Editorial: Missouri politicians said COVID fight was socialism, now the state is #1-in new cases.

Show me

[jhu72]

Are these Floridians smart? No.

[JoeMauer89]

Are these Floridians smart? No.

Jhu,

Are you a vaccinated? Are you a politician? If they answer to both questions are yes and no, in that order, why do you care SO much about all this minutiae?!?? Its constant, everyday with another article framed in your preferred "narrative" in an endless crusade to prove that all who have either refused vaccination, haven't been vaccinated or some combination of both are due to receive some sort of penance as a result. Do yourself a favor and get outside, get some fresh air it will be therapeutic. You can virtually do any activity you want now, pump the brakes with this crusade. You are looking for needles in a haystack

Joe

[MDlaxfan76]

Are these Floridians smart? No.

Jhu,

Are you a vaccinated? Are you a politician? If they answer to both questions are yes and no, in that order, why do you care SO much about all this minutiae?!?? Its constant, everyday with another article framed in your preferred "narrative" in an endless crusade to prove that all who have either refused vaccination, haven't been vaccinated or some combination of both are due to receive some sort of penance as a result. Do yourself a favor and get outside, get some fresh air it will be therapeutic. You can virtually do any activity you want now, pump the brakes with this crusade. You are looking for needles in a haystack

Joe

Joe, I thought you'd resolved to stay out of these threads, stick to lax?
Happier there.

This topic impacts more than the individual, it involves all of us in various ways. While a vaccinated person is mostly protected themselves from a negative health outcome, the protection isn't 100%. That applies to not just you and me, but also to others we love, and to our community at large.

And there are ripple effects to the unvaccinated continuing a spread the disease, a much larger proportion of whom have dire impacts from the infection. The costs of caring for those dire impacts is high, and they are necessarily spread to all of us whether through our taxes (or debt) or through our own insurance costs over time.

And, if there's a rebound in the virus due to a variant catching hold that impacts age groups that had not been as effected by the first waves, this could lead to not only these health costs but also to public policy responses that would impact the economy negatively, another round of contraction and government debt.

So, whether we like it or not, these are serious public policy concerns. And we're in the Politics section where people actually like to discuss and learn about what is happening on various topics.

But hey, if it makes you happier to stick to lax or go outside and get some fresh air, no one is criticizing you for doing so.

Seriously, no one.

[Carroll81]

Over the year 881 Secret Service Agents came down with COVID. More than half of them were assigned to the President and Vice President and their families. The data runs the year March 2020 through February 2021.

How many hospitalized? How many died?

[MDlaxfan76]

Over the year 881 Secret Service Agents came down with COVID. More than half of them were assigned to the President and Vice President and their families. The data runs the year March 2020 through February 2021.

How many hospitalized? How many died?

Good questions...also, how many did they infect?
How many of those infected through their chain of transmission were hospitalized, how many of those died?

Might also ask, who infected them?

[PizzaSnake]

Are these Floridians smart? No.

Jhu,

Are you a vaccinated? Are you a politician? If they answer to both questions are yes and no, in that order, why do you care SO much about all this minutiae?!?? Its constant, everyday with another article framed in your preferred "narrative" in an endless crusade to prove that all who have either refused vaccination, haven't been vaccinated or some combination of both are due to receive some sort of penance as a result. Do yourself a favor and get outside, get some fresh air it will be therapeutic. You can virtually do any activity you want now, pump the brakes with this crusade. You are looking for needles in a haystack

Joe

Joe, I thought you'd resolved to stay out of these threads, stick to lax?
Happier there.

This topic impacts more than the individual, it involves all of us in various ways. While a vaccinated person is mostly protected themselves from a negative health outcome, the protection isn't 100%. That applies to not just you and me, but also to others we love, and to our community at large.

And there are ripple effects to the unvaccinated continuing a spread the disease, a much larger proportion of whom have dire impacts from the infection. The costs of caring for those dire impacts is high, and they are necessarily spread to all of us whether through our taxes (or debt) or through our own insurance costs over time.

And, if there's a rebound in the virus due to a variant catching hold that impacts age groups that had not been as effected by the first waves, this could lead to not only these health costs but also to public policy responses that would impact the economy negatively, another round of contraction and government debt.

So, whether we like it or not, these are serious public policy concerns. And we're in the Politics section where people actually like to discuss and learn about what is happening on various topics.

But hey, if it makes you happier to stick to lax or go outside and get some fresh air, no one is criticizing you for doing so.

Seriously, no one.

What's that tune I hear being whistled past the graveyard?

[JoeMauer89]

Are these Floridians smart? No.

Jhu,

Are you a vaccinated? Are you a politician? If they answer to both questions are yes and no, in that order, why do you care SO much about all this minutiae?!?? Its constant, everyday with another article framed in your preferred "narrative" in an endless crusade to prove that all who have either refused vaccination, haven't been vaccinated or some combination of both are due to receive some sort of penance as a result. Do yourself a favor and get outside, get some fresh air it will be therapeutic. You can virtually do any activity you want now, pump the brakes with this crusade. You are looking for needles in a haystack

Joe

Joe, I thought you'd resolved to stay out of these threads, stick to lax?
Happier there.

This topic impacts more than the individual, it involves all of us in various ways. While a vaccinated person is mostly protected themselves from a negative health outcome, the protection isn't 100%. That applies to not just you and me, but also to others we love, and to our community at large.

And there are ripple effects to the unvaccinated continuing a spread the disease, a much larger proportion of whom have dire impacts from the infection. The costs of caring for those dire impacts is high, and they are necessarily spread to all of us whether through our taxes (or debt) or through our own insurance costs over time.

And, if there's a rebound in the virus due to a variant catching hold that impacts age groups that had not been as effected by the first waves, this could lead to not only these health costs but also to public policy responses that would impact the economy negatively, another round of contraction and government debt.

So, whether we like it or not, these are serious public policy concerns. And we're in the Politics section where people actually like to discuss and learn about what is happening on various topics.

But hey, if it makes you happier to stick to lax or go outside and get some fresh air, no one is criticizing you for doing so.

Seriously, no one.

What's that tune I hear being whistled past the graveyard?

Me leaving.

Joe

[Peter Brown]

Are these Floridians smart? No.

Jhu,

Are you a vaccinated? Are you a politician? If they answer to both questions are yes and no, in that order, why do you care SO much about all this minutiae?!?? Its constant, everyday with another article framed in your preferred "narrative" in an endless crusade to prove that all who have either refused vaccination, haven't been vaccinated or some combination of both are due to receive some sort of penance as a result. Do yourself a favor and get outside, get some fresh air it will be therapeutic. You can virtually do any activity you want now, pump the brakes with this crusade. You are looking for needles in a haystack

Joe

Joe, I thought you'd resolved to stay out of these threads, stick to lax?
Happier there.

This topic impacts more than the individual, it involves all of us in various ways. While a vaccinated person is mostly protected themselves from a negative health outcome, the protection isn't 100%. That applies to not just you and me, but also to others we love, and to our community at large.

And there are ripple effects to the unvaccinated continuing a spread the disease, a much larger proportion of whom have dire impacts from the infection. The costs of caring for those dire impacts is high, and they are necessarily spread to all of us whether through our taxes (or debt) or through our own insurance costs over time.

And, if there's a rebound in the virus due to a variant catching hold that impacts age groups that had not been as effected by the first waves, this could lead to not only these health costs but also to public policy responses that would impact the economy negatively, another round of contraction and government debt.

So, whether we like it or not, these are serious public policy concerns. And we're in the Politics section where people actually like to discuss and learn about what is happening on various topics.

But hey, if it makes you happier to stick to lax or go outside and get some fresh air, no one is criticizing you for doing so.

Seriously, no one.

What's that tune I hear being whistled past the graveyard?

Me leaving.

Joe

If you haven’t noticed, libs hate when they’re confronted by a guy like Joe. They are much happier to have less discourse, not more, if it means they get to all echo each other. The same pathology explains why they insist the mainstream media is not biased to Democrats. Their reasoning and philosophy is rank, for losers; being exposed can really destabilize already unstable people. Better to be safe in a cocoon of dunce.

[JoeMauer89]

Are these Floridians smart? No.

Jhu,

Are you a vaccinated? Are you a politician? If they answer to both questions are yes and no, in that order, why do you care SO much about all this minutiae?!?? Its constant, everyday with another article framed in your preferred "narrative" in an endless crusade to prove that all who have either refused vaccination, haven't been vaccinated or some combination of both are due to receive some sort of penance as a result. Do yourself a favor and get outside, get some fresh air it will be therapeutic. You can virtually do any activity you want now, pump the brakes with this crusade. You are looking for needles in a haystack

Joe

Joe, I thought you'd resolved to stay out of these threads, stick to lax?
Happier there.

This topic impacts more than the individual, it involves all of us in various ways. While a vaccinated person is mostly protected themselves from a negative health outcome, the protection isn't 100%. That applies to not just you and me, but also to others we love, and to our community at large.

And there are ripple effects to the unvaccinated continuing a spread the disease, a much larger proportion of whom have dire impacts from the infection. The costs of caring for those dire impacts is high, and they are necessarily spread to all of us whether through our taxes (or debt) or through our own insurance costs over time.

And, if there's a rebound in the virus due to a variant catching hold that impacts age groups that had not been as effected by the first waves, this could lead to not only these health costs but also to public policy responses that would impact the economy negatively, another round of contraction and government debt.

So, whether we like it or not, these are serious public policy concerns. And we're in the Politics section where people actually like to discuss and learn about what is happening on various topics.

But hey, if it makes you happier to stick to lax or go outside and get some fresh air, no one is criticizing you for doing so.

Seriously, no one.

Nearly ever aspect of life is interconnected, you need not explain that to me. Yes these are all concerns, and regarding this statement "If there's a rebound in the virus due to a variant catching hold that impacts age groups that had not been as effected by the first waves" This is speculation right now, there's been no evidence that Delta, which is to what you are referring, is affecting a different age group at an adverse effect. In fact it's affecting unvaccinated people, which is not surprising. There was never going to be a uniform rate of vaccinations across the country and the places seeing rise right now seem to be smaller cities in very specific area of the southwest extending eastward to Missouri with low vaccination rates for a MULTITUDE of reasons, not just that area's political leanings. I wouldn't call this alarming, this is again a respiratory virus that WILL NEVER be eradicated. Those who are unvaccinated, are more likely to get Covid if they haven't had it already. Nothing shocking about that. Worry about your loved ones and if they are vaccinated, that's all you can do. Can't solve all of life's problems from the armchair. No need for me to continue this any further, I'm out of here and back to Lacrosse forums.

Joe

[wgdsr]

in related news, phillipines just got to 2.153 fully vaxxed out of 110 million, so can round up to 2.2 from 2.1.
also, phillipino prison construction co. stocks have popped 40% in the last 2 days trading.

[Bart]

Are these Floridians smart? No.

Jhu,

Are you a vaccinated? Are you a politician? If they answer to both questions are yes and no, in that order, why do you care SO much about all this minutiae?!?? Its constant, everyday with another article framed in your preferred "narrative" in an endless crusade to prove that all who have either refused vaccination, haven't been vaccinated or some combination of both are due to receive some sort of penance as a result. Do yourself a favor and get outside, get some fresh air it will be therapeutic. You can virtually do any activity you want now, pump the brakes with this crusade. You are looking for needles in a haystack

Joe

Joe, I thought you'd resolved to stay out of these threads, stick to lax?
Happier there.

This topic impacts more than the individual, it involves all of us in various ways. While a vaccinated person is mostly protected themselves from a negative health outcome, the protection isn't 100%. That applies to not just you and me, but also to others we love, and to our community at large.

And there are ripple effects to the unvaccinated continuing a spread the disease, a much larger proportion of whom have dire impacts from the infection. The costs of caring for those dire impacts is high, and they are necessarily spread to all of us whether through our taxes (or debt) or through our own insurance costs over time.

And, if there's a rebound in the virus due to a variant catching hold that impacts age groups that had not been as effected by the first waves, this could lead to not only these health costs but also to public policy responses that would impact the economy negatively, another round of contraction and government debt.

So, whether we like it or not, these are serious public policy concerns. And we're in the Politics section where people actually like to discuss and learn about what is happening on various topics.

But hey, if it makes you happier to stick to lax or go outside and get some fresh air, no one is criticizing you for doing so.

Seriously, no one.

Nearly ever aspect of life is interconnected, you need not explain that to me. Yes these are all concerns, and regarding this statement "If there's a rebound in the virus due to a variant catching hold that impacts age groups that had not been as effected by the first waves" This is speculation right now, there's been no evidence that Delta, which is to what you are referring, is affecting a different age group at an adverse effect. In fact it's affecting unvaccinated people, which is not surprising. There was never going to be a uniform rate of vaccinations across the country and the places seeing rise right now seem to be smaller cities in very specific area of the southwest extending eastward to Missouri with low vaccination rates for a MULTITUDE of reasons, not just that area's political leanings. I wouldn't call this alarming, this is again a respiratory virus that WILL NEVER be eradicated. Those who are unvaccinated, are more likely to get Covid if they haven't had it already. Nothing shocking about that. Worry about your loved ones and if they are vaccinated, that's all you can do. Can't solve all of life's problems from the armchair. No need for me to continue this any further, I'm out of here and back to Lacrosse forums.

Joe

wanna bet? you ALWAYS return.

[JoeMauer89]

Are these Floridians smart? No.

Jhu,

Are you a vaccinated? Are you a politician? If they answer to both questions are yes and no, in that order, why do you care SO much about all this minutiae?!?? Its constant, everyday with another article framed in your preferred "narrative" in an endless crusade to prove that all who have either refused vaccination, haven't been vaccinated or some combination of both are due to receive some sort of penance as a result. Do yourself a favor and get outside, get some fresh air it will be therapeutic. You can virtually do any activity you want now, pump the brakes with this crusade. You are looking for needles in a haystack

Joe

Joe, I thought you'd resolved to stay out of these threads, stick to lax?
Happier there.

This topic impacts more than the individual, it involves all of us in various ways. While a vaccinated person is mostly protected themselves from a negative health outcome, the protection isn't 100%. That applies to not just you and me, but also to others we love, and to our community at large.

And there are ripple effects to the unvaccinated continuing a spread the disease, a much larger proportion of whom have dire impacts from the infection. The costs of caring for those dire impacts is high, and they are necessarily spread to all of us whether through our taxes (or debt) or through our own insurance costs over time.

And, if there's a rebound in the virus due to a variant catching hold that impacts age groups that had not been as effected by the first waves, this could lead to not only these health costs but also to public policy responses that would impact the economy negatively, another round of contraction and government debt.

So, whether we like it or not, these are serious public policy concerns. And we're in the Politics section where people actually like to discuss and learn about what is happening on various topics.

But hey, if it makes you happier to stick to lax or go outside and get some fresh air, no one is criticizing you for doing so.

Seriously, no one.

Nearly ever aspect of life is interconnected, you need not explain that to me. Yes these are all concerns, and regarding this statement "If there's a rebound in the virus due to a variant catching hold that impacts age groups that had not been as effected by the first waves" This is speculation right now, there's been no evidence that Delta, which is to what you are referring, is affecting a different age group at an adverse effect. In fact it's affecting unvaccinated people, which is not surprising. There was never going to be a uniform rate of vaccinations across the country and the places seeing rise right now seem to be smaller cities in very specific area of the southwest extending eastward to Missouri with low vaccination rates for a MULTITUDE of reasons, not just that area's political leanings. I wouldn't call this alarming, this is again a respiratory virus that WILL NEVER be eradicated. Those who are unvaccinated, are more likely to get Covid if they haven't had it already. Nothing shocking about that. Worry about your loved ones and if they are vaccinated, that's all you can do. Can't solve all of life's problems from the armchair. No need for me to continue this any further, I'm out of here and back to Lacrosse forums.

Joe

wanna bet? you ALWAYS return.

Bart,

Exactly why I don't bet

Joe

[MDlaxfan76]

Are these Floridians smart? No.

Jhu,

Are you a vaccinated? Are you a politician? If they answer to both questions are yes and no, in that order, why do you care SO much about all this minutiae?!?? Its constant, everyday with another article framed in your preferred "narrative" in an endless crusade to prove that all who have either refused vaccination, haven't been vaccinated or some combination of both are due to receive some sort of penance as a result. Do yourself a favor and get outside, get some fresh air it will be therapeutic. You can virtually do any activity you want now, pump the brakes with this crusade. You are looking for needles in a haystack

Joe

Joe, I thought you'd resolved to stay out of these threads, stick to lax?
Happier there.

This topic impacts more than the individual, it involves all of us in various ways. While a vaccinated person is mostly protected themselves from a negative health outcome, the protection isn't 100%. That applies to not just you and me, but also to others we love, and to our community at large.

And there are ripple effects to the unvaccinated continuing a spread the disease, a much larger proportion of whom have dire impacts from the infection. The costs of caring for those dire impacts is high, and they are necessarily spread to all of us whether through our taxes (or debt) or through our own insurance costs over time.

And, if there's a rebound in the virus due to a variant catching hold that impacts age groups that had not been as effected by the first waves, this could lead to not only these health costs but also to public policy responses that would impact the economy negatively, another round of contraction and government debt.

So, whether we like it or not, these are serious public policy concerns. And we're in the Politics section where people actually like to discuss and learn about what is happening on various topics.

But hey, if it makes you happier to stick to lax or go outside and get some fresh air, no one is criticizing you for doing so.

Seriously, no one.

Nearly ever aspect of life is interconnected, you need not explain that to me. Yes these are all concerns, and regarding this statement "If there's a rebound in the virus due to a variant catching hold that impacts age groups that had not been as effected by the first waves" This is speculation right now, there's been no evidence that Delta, which is to what you are referring, is affecting a different age group at an adverse effect. In fact it's affecting unvaccinated people, which is not surprising. There was never going to be a uniform rate of vaccinations across the country and the places seeing rise right now seem to be smaller cities in very specific area of the southwest extending eastward to Missouri with low vaccination rates for a MULTITUDE of reasons, not just that area's political leanings. I wouldn't call this alarming, this is again a respiratory virus that WILL NEVER be eradicated. Those who are unvaccinated, are more likely to get Covid if they haven't had it already. Nothing shocking about that. Worry about your loved ones and if they are vaccinated, that's all you can do. Can't solve all of life's problems from the armchair. No need for me to continue this any further, I'm out of here and back to Lacrosse forums.

Joe

Actually, I was not speaking specifically of Delta, though that's the one currently spreading very quickly because of its increased transmissibility.

I think you're likely correct that, at least so far, the increased hospitalizations and deaths in younger age groups is due more to the increased % of younger people getting infected than the actual deadliness being greater than the earlier strains. But more young people getting it faster and easier leads to a % with serious outcomes.

The experts are saying that younger folks are increasingly getting and spreading Delta because they are more socially active and because a higher % are unvaccinated than are the older folks.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... ovid-surge

https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-d ... ple-2021-6

I was saying that an additional concern is that a strain beyond Delta could also be deadlier for younger ages. Obviously, we all hope that the virus doesn't mutate that way, but it's definitely possible. Odds are, simply given scale of prevalence now elsewhere in the world, that such would happen first abroad, but there's really no shot of preventing it from reaching our shores if also easily transmissible. But a high % of vaccinated people would most likely greatly diminish its spread. Of course, the wild card there is whether the current vaccines would prevent infection or worst outcomes...so far, looking good, but not guaranteed. On that front, we need to hope the scientists can help us stay ahead as necessary with booster shots, etc.

Yes, the only way to truly defeat this thing is worldwide, successful vaccinations and that's a good ways off. Meanwhile, though, getting our % as high as we can will reduce significantly any negative health and economic impacts in the US.

For some reason, it seems to bother you that there's such concern about those resisting vaccinations for whack job and 'political' reasons (as opposed to legitimate, highly individual medical reasons). Why it bothers you so much, I don't know, and you needn't explain.

Beautiful day outside.

[Bart]

Are these Floridians smart? No.

Jhu,

Are you a vaccinated? Are you a politician? If they answer to both questions are yes and no, in that order, why do you care SO much about all this minutiae?!?? Its constant, everyday with another article framed in your preferred "narrative" in an endless crusade to prove that all who have either refused vaccination, haven't been vaccinated or some combination of both are due to receive some sort of penance as a result. Do yourself a favor and get outside, get some fresh air it will be therapeutic. You can virtually do any activity you want now, pump the brakes with this crusade. You are looking for needles in a haystack

Joe

Joe, I thought you'd resolved to stay out of these threads, stick to lax?
Happier there.

This topic impacts more than the individual, it involves all of us in various ways. While a vaccinated person is mostly protected themselves from a negative health outcome, the protection isn't 100%. That applies to not just you and me, but also to others we love, and to our community at large.

And there are ripple effects to the unvaccinated continuing a spread the disease, a much larger proportion of whom have dire impacts from the infection. The costs of caring for those dire impacts is high, and they are necessarily spread to all of us whether through our taxes (or debt) or through our own insurance costs over time.

And, if there's a rebound in the virus due to a variant catching hold that impacts age groups that had not been as effected by the first waves, this could lead to not only these health costs but also to public policy responses that would impact the economy negatively, another round of contraction and government debt.

So, whether we like it or not, these are serious public policy concerns. And we're in the Politics section where people actually like to discuss and learn about what is happening on various topics.

But hey, if it makes you happier to stick to lax or go outside and get some fresh air, no one is criticizing you for doing so.

Seriously, no one.

Nearly ever aspect of life is interconnected, you need not explain that to me. Yes these are all concerns, and regarding this statement "If there's a rebound in the virus due to a variant catching hold that impacts age groups that had not been as effected by the first waves" This is speculation right now, there's been no evidence that Delta, which is to what you are referring, is affecting a different age group at an adverse effect. In fact it's affecting unvaccinated people, which is not surprising. There was never going to be a uniform rate of vaccinations across the country and the places seeing rise right now seem to be smaller cities in very specific area of the southwest extending eastward to Missouri with low vaccination rates for a MULTITUDE of reasons, not just that area's political leanings. I wouldn't call this alarming, this is again a respiratory virus that WILL NEVER be eradicated. Those who are unvaccinated, are more likely to get Covid if they haven't had it already. Nothing shocking about that. Worry about your loved ones and if they are vaccinated, that's all you can do. Can't solve all of life's problems from the armchair. No need for me to continue this any further, I'm out of here and back to Lacrosse forums.

Joe

wanna bet? you ALWAYS return.

Bart,

Exactly why I don't bet

Joe

ha

[PizzaSnake]

You can lead a horse's rump to water, but...

"Covid-19 vaccines are available for everyone ages 12 and up," US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said Tuesday at a White House briefing. "They are nearly 100% effective against severe disease and death -- meaning nearly every death due to Covid-19 is particularly tragic, because nearly every death, especially among adults, due to Covid-19 is at this point entirely preventable.

Those still dying from Covid-19 in the US are "overwhelmingly" unvaccinated, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Director Dr. Anthony Fauci told CNN on Tuesday."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/23/health/u ... index.html

If they didn't endanger the rest of us I'd say good riddance.