Yep.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:57 pmtierney has won one title in the last 20 years. sounds like you have your own criteria. we'll call it the doc criteria.DocBarrister wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:53 pmI admire both Starsia and Desko, but neither can compare with Tierney.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:36 pmactually never said that. you said it wasn't close between coaches. but the margin was 2 ot wins between him and starsia.DocBarrister wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:21 pmYou seem to think winning close games, especially in OT, does not support greatness, but those close wins are arguably the greatest evidence of a great coach.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:26 pmhmmm.... 2 overtime games doesn't make it close? what would make it close?DocBarrister wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:57 pmDid it twice. After Princeton, took a rising but still second-tier Denver program and won a national championship in 2015.CU77 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:48 pmTo make one comparison: IMO, Breschi is not as good at getting the best out of his players as Danowski. Over the past 10 years, Duke has been more successful overall than UNC, by a variety of measures. Switch Breschi and Danowski, and I think that reverses.
Another point: very few of the current top 20 coaches (and maybe none) could do what Tierney did: go to a total lax backwater (Princeton at the time), and, using players with notably less talent than much of the competition, win a national championship. (After that win, the talent level improved of course.)
Best coach of his era (which is still ongoing), and no one is really even close.
DocBarrister
And the bottom line is … they were wins.
DocBarrister
and then there's desko, with 5 champs in a lot less time as a head coach. and 6 more in his time as an asst. (tierney got 2 in 3 years at jhu?). anyone that knows anything about su lacrosse then knows desko was a if not the driving force for those wins as well.
i was just wondering what would be close.
Longevity and continued success do count for something, and Tierney has outlasted them both.
DocBarrister
One lousy national championship since 2001.
By the way, how many other Division I lacrosse head coaches have won Division I NCAA championships at two different schools?
Oh, and how many Division I lacrosse head coaches have won a Division I NCAA title with a team west of the Mississippi?
What other Division I lacrosse head coach has won SEVEN Division I NCAA titles?
That one lousy title since 2001 is kinda important, don’t you think?
DocBarrister