Dartmouth Men's Lacrosse

[High Glass]

Not sure if anyone made it to HC scrimmages yesterday. Interested to see what people thought.

[check sticks]

Scrimmages (for what's it worth) Sacred Heart was a W, Holy Cross a L
Season opener this Saturday in Boston. Year 5 for Callahan. No more claims of "rebuilding".
Solid goal tending (with depth) is in place. Face offs TBD. Attack looks more confident under
new OC Conner's oversight.
Big Green will not be blown out. Whether they fight to a win is

[Laxjunkie]

Scrimmages (for what's it worth) Sacred Heart was a W, Holy Cross a L
Season opener this Saturday in Boston. Year 5 for Callahan. No more claims of "rebuilding".
Solid goal tending (with depth) is in place. Face offs TBD. Attack looks more confident under
new OC Conner's oversight.
Big Green will not be blown out. Whether they fight to a win is

Effectively a blow out today. Down 8-1, the rest was cosmetic. Gonna be a long season in Callahan's 5th year. He will need to own this one for sure.

[Voyuer]

Dartmouth was never in this game because of their brutal Team D and lack of clearing in the first Quarter and beyond. The team D did improve with time, so we will see if that is because the game was over, or they actually made progress. The Clearing nightmare just continued from last year, and I was very disappointed to see a lack of spacing and understanding of what both teams should be trying to do. SSDM stick work is still an issue, but the spacing, and setting up in the proper spots, has to be coaching or the kids just panicked. This has to be fixed now and never should have looked this bad after last years horrors. I actually thought the O showed some promise after they starting moving their feet and running away from the BU pressure, which caused havoc at the start of the game.

[check sticks]

Dartmouth was never in this game because of their brutal Team D and lack of clearing in the first Quarter and beyond. The team D did improve with time, so we will see if that is because the game was over, or they actually made progress. The Clearing nightmare just continued from last year, and I was very disappointed to see a lack of spacing and understanding of what both teams should be trying to do. SSDM stick work is still an issue, but the spacing, and setting up in the proper spots, has to be coaching or the kids just panicked. This has to be fixed now and never should have looked this bad after last years horrors. I actually thought the O showed some promise after they starting moving their feet and running away from the BU pressure, which caused havoc at the start of the game.

Cockroaches have emerged. Like clockwork.
Fact, the Dartmouth clearing 1st quarter was actually 100%. But shaky thereafter.
Turnovers across the field doomed any momentum. Last quarter in spades.
Coach Conner's offense promising. The D needs to review this game film, again and again and again.

[Laxing97]

Like clockwork sticks and md will try to sell the incoming class and the positive direction. Fact it’s been 5 years countless coaches same result. Only one person has been there the whole time but they they think everyone is stupid. I hope they sign him to another 5 years.

[Voyuer]

Wow a little thin skinned. I am rooting for Dartmouth always,but did not think this site was for Kool-Aid drinkers only. Sorry I was wrong about clearing in the 1st Qtr and honestly was watching 3 games at once. I guess you are saying Dartmouth's clearing inability didn't start until the 2nd Qtr, I am sure you are right. Did you think DC looked good clearing the ball???? Did you think DC looked good on D in !st Qtr?? Did you think DC was effectively out of the game when down 8-1?? What are you challenging besides the timing of the clearing woes. I like DC to win 4 games this year and finally get an IVY win. I see progress but BC has been there five years and that start was disappointing, was it not??

[Ivyman]

I like DC to win 4 games this year and finally get an IVY win.

C'mon, Voyuer. Yale didn't look bad yesterday. They'll be fine.

[MDlaxfan76]

Like clockwork sticks and md will try to sell the incoming class and the positive direction. Fact it’s been 5 years countless coaches same result. Only one person has been there the whole time but they they think everyone is stupid. I hope they sign him to another 5 years.

There are indeed some cockroaches on here.
97, we know you are rooting for Callahan's failure specifically, and that of Dartmouth. We get it.

Voyeur, on the other hand, is always fair minded in my recollection.

And being tough, based on the facts, is just fine in my book.

I didn't see the game (is it available somewhere? help!)

Based on the box score, looks like our Big Green got blown out at X, leading to way more possessions, lots of make it-take it's for BU.
BU went 16 to just 4 at X in the first half. 18-8 in the full game.

Interestingly, dead even in GB's overall, meaning Dartmouth picked up 10 more GBs than BU when not off the X. That sounds like Dartmouth was hustling hard, but got whupped at X.

From the clearing and TO's, looks like TO's were a problem all over. There were no broken clears in the 1st Q and just 2 in the first half, so that really wasn't the issue in that initial commanding lead.

But Dartmouth did have 6 TO's in that first Q and, along with the destruction at X, BU took 15 shots in the 1st Q alone. Must have been brutal, as Dartmouth's freshman tender gave up 6 with 3 saves that Q.

BU had the TO bug in the 2nd Q and Dartmouth battled back scoring 6 goals. Unfortunately, BU also kept winning at X, 10-3, so managed just as many shots on cage scoring 6X, again 3 saves. Must have been a wild Q with 12 goals scored between the two teams!

The 3rd Q was also more even, but less chaotic. But then the 4th Q had 10 TO's for the Big Green. Ugly end.

That's what I see from the box score.

BU has about a month and two games more under its belt than Dartmouth.
I'm not particularly surprised at this loss.

[Voyuer]

Anybody can watch the replay free on the Patriot league network...or under watchstadium.com. Just search Dartmouth or BU.

[MDlaxfan76]

Anybody can watch the replay free on the Patriot league network...or under watchstadium.com. Just search Dartmouth or BU.

Thanks!

[MrLax2U]

I noticed Knute Kraus is a volunteer assistant coach with your team. I've followed him since he arrived at Salisbury in 2012. He's a wonderful man and will be a good mentor to his players. He loves lacrosse and he knows how to coach.

Good luck with your season.

[Charlie Don't Surf]

Can anyone affiliated with the Big Green shed a little light on two things:

1. Where was Meacham this weekend--great player. Looks like he had a GB and CT but did not start.

2. Same question for goalie who got hurt last year, Christopher? Kid is a heck of goalie. Still hurt? Have to think w his seasoning and talent he would have been a good options vs BU.

[CharmCityLaxMan]

Like clockwork sticks and md will try to sell the incoming class and the positive direction. Fact it’s been 5 years countless coaches same result. Only one person has been there the whole time but they they think everyone is stupid. I hope they sign him to another 5 years.

Been watching this thread through many Laxpower days. This made me chuckle.

[wahoomurf]

Enjoyed this article about Sewanhaka's 80th anniversary celebration.

When Bill Ritch 'retired' in 1979, with an incredible HS winning record, and moved to 20 mins outside of Hanover, our HC Dud Hendrick persuaded him to join his tiny staff. Coach Ritch was a huge part of our subsequent success in '79 into the Top 10 nationally, including the first defeat in the 3 years of Ivy play of Cornell (#2 nationally). Quite a character as well.

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/fuel/boys ... -tradition

Was he ever. He made the word "pissant" sound poetic.

[Laxing97]

Like clockwork sticks and md will try to sell the incoming class and the positive direction. Fact it’s been 5 years countless coaches same result. Only one person has been there the whole time but they they think everyone is stupid. I hope they sign him to another 5 years.

There are indeed some cockroaches on here.
97, we know you are rooting for Callahan's failure specifically, and that of Dartmouth. We get it.

Voyeur, on the other hand, is always fair minded in my recollection.

And being tough, based on the facts, is just fine in my book.

I didn't see the game (is it available somewhere? help!)

Based on the box score, looks like our Big Green got blown out at X, leading to way more possessions, lots of make it-take it's for BU.
BU went 16 to just 4 at X in the first half. 18-8 in the full game.

Interestingly, dead even in GB's overall, meaning Dartmouth picked up 10 more GBs than BU when not off the X. That sounds like Dartmouth was hustling hard, but got whupped at X.

From the clearing and TO's, looks like TO's were a problem all over. There were no broken clears in the 1st Q and just 2 in the first half, so that really wasn't the issue in that initial commanding lead.

But Dartmouth did have 6 TO's in that first Q and, along with the destruction at X, BU took 15 shots in the 1st Q alone. Must have been brutal, as Dartmouth's freshman tender gave up 6 with 3 saves that Q.

BU had the TO bug in the 2nd Q and Dartmouth battled back scoring 6 goals. Unfortunately, BU also kept winning at X, 10-3, so managed just as many shots on cage scoring 6X, again 3 saves. Must have been a wild Q with 12 goals scored between the two teams!

The 3rd Q was also more even, but less chaotic. But then the 4th Q had 10 TO's for the Big Green. Ugly end.

That's what I see from the box score.

BU has about a month and two games more under its belt than Dartmouth.
I'm not particularly surprised at this loss.

Md
I do not not have any bad feelings about the school and I feel sorry for the players. You post about finding Bigfoot in the woods, cutting players to a level full field practice is impossible and carrying 2 goalies is ok. Now you didn’t see the game but post a spin from a box score. Have you spoke to any of the coaches who have left to see what is going on have you spoke to any of the players on the team. Have you spoke to recruits interacting with the program because I have and I have never spoke bad about the school and I always defend the players. The men’s lacrosse program is and has been broken. Try speaking the truth for once maybe something positive would come of it

[MDlaxfan76]

Like clockwork sticks and md will try to sell the incoming class and the positive direction. Fact it’s been 5 years countless coaches same result. Only one person has been there the whole time but they they think everyone is stupid. I hope they sign him to another 5 years.

There are indeed some cockroaches on here.
97, we know you are rooting for Callahan's failure specifically, and that of Dartmouth. We get it.

Voyeur, on the other hand, is always fair minded in my recollection.

And being tough, based on the facts, is just fine in my book.

I didn't see the game (is it available somewhere? help!)

Based on the box score, looks like our Big Green got blown out at X, leading to way more possessions, lots of make it-take it's for BU.
BU went 16 to just 4 at X in the first half. 18-8 in the full game.

Interestingly, dead even in GB's overall, meaning Dartmouth picked up 10 more GBs than BU when not off the X. That sounds like Dartmouth was hustling hard, but got whupped at X.

From the clearing and TO's, looks like TO's were a problem all over. There were no broken clears in the 1st Q and just 2 in the first half, so that really wasn't the issue in that initial commanding lead.

But Dartmouth did have 6 TO's in that first Q and, along with the destruction at X, BU took 15 shots in the 1st Q alone. Must have been brutal, as Dartmouth's freshman tender gave up 6 with 3 saves that Q.

BU had the TO bug in the 2nd Q and Dartmouth battled back scoring 6 goals. Unfortunately, BU also kept winning at X, 10-3, so managed just as many shots on cage scoring 6X, again 3 saves. Must have been a wild Q with 12 goals scored between the two teams!

The 3rd Q was also more even, but less chaotic. But then the 4th Q had 10 TO's for the Big Green. Ugly end.

That's what I see from the box score.

BU has about a month and two games more under its belt than Dartmouth.
I'm not particularly surprised at this loss.

Md
I do not not have any bad feelings about the school and I feel sorry for the players. You post about finding Bigfoot in the woods, cutting players to a level full field practice is impossible and carrying 2 goalies is ok. Now you didn’t see the game but post a spin from a box score. Have you spoke to any of the coaches who have left to see what is going on have you spoke to any of the players on the team. Have you spoke to recruits interacting with the program because I have and I have never spoke bad about the school and I always defend the players. The men’s lacrosse program is and has been broken. Try speaking the truth for once maybe something positive would come of it

I fully recall you from the LP thread.

Same disjointed negativity, clearly angry.

I don't know what you mean by much of what you write, nor can I follow your syntax and grammar.
Just a guess here, but I assume you didn't go to Dartmouth, right?

For instance, what the heck do you mean by: "You post about finding Bigfoot in the woods, cutting players to a level full field practice is impossible and carrying 2 goalies is ok". Really, I posted anything remotely like that?

"Bigfoot in the woods", what does that even mean?

Or "...cutting players to a level full field practice is impossible" huh?

I assume you must be referring, in some obtuse way, to the tough roster cuts that were widely critiqued, or at least raised as of concern, including by me. Just 32 on a roster indeed is very low, but last I looked full field doesn't require more. We had 30 on our roster my freshman year, 34 my senior year, and we never had any difficulty running full fields. But 32 was indeed unusually low in the current era, leaving little room for injuries.

But, what are you claiming?
Same for 2 goalies. I quite agreed that was of great concern.
But again, we had only 2 each of my years in Hanover.

That said, we did have a JV and we always had a third guy to pull up in a pinch. These days you'd need to pull from the club team.

But how do you like the roster now?
6 seniors, 12 juniors, 13 sophomores, 12 freshmen.
43 total.

At least in my own, (obviously biased ), opinion, I've been quite willing to be critical of the current program and state of play, and was even more critical of the former coaching regime.

But I also think that it's important that we be fair and measured in our critiques and constructive whenever possible. After all, I'm actually a supporter of the program, love Dartmouth, and wish the very best for all involved. Checksticks is as well. Clearly, you are not in the same mode of thinking.

Yes, I've spoken (not "spoke") to current and former players and former coaches. There may be some involved with the program who are much better informed than I am, but I doubt you're one of those.

You led with a crack about Checksticks and me, and then dumped on the program and coach in specific. That's really not helpful to anyone.

But, let's not make this personal further.

If you have any sort of constructive thoughts about the actual lacrosse being played, please share.

And, if you aren't interested in what the box score reveals, don't read my posts.
It won't offend me in the least if you ignore my posts.

[MDlaxfan76]

Enjoyed this article about Sewanhaka's 80th anniversary celebration.

When Bill Ritch 'retired' in 1979, with an incredible HS winning record, and moved to 20 mins outside of Hanover, our HC Dud Hendrick persuaded him to join his tiny staff. Coach Ritch was a huge part of our subsequent success in '79 into the Top 10 nationally, including the first defeat in the 3 years of Ivy play of Cornell (#2 nationally). Quite a character as well.

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/fuel/boys ... -tradition

Was he ever. He made the word "pissant" sound poetic.

Yup.

[FannOLax]

It's far too easy to rag on a program that's been down. Most things that have been "broken" can be fixed, and every game but one I hope Dartmouth wins. There have been signs of progress, and a better Dartmouth makes the Ivy stronger. Go Big Green!

[faircornell]

MD: FWIW, I thought that your statistical breakdown was excellent. Since few of us can watch all of the games, it was a balanced and objective overview that was appreciated. BU is a new, but strong program. Early season, they might have bested any Ivy.