Trump's Russian Collusion

[dislaxxic]

ROGER STONE AND THE DOZENS OF SEARCH WARRANTS ON ACCOUNTS USED TO FACILITATE THE TRANSFER AND PROMOTION OF STOLEN DEMOCRATIC EMAILS

Paging Chairman Burr...

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[cradleandshoot]

ROGER STONE AND THE DOZENS OF SEARCH WARRANTS ON ACCOUNTS USED TO FACILITATE THE TRANSFER AND PROMOTION OF STOLEN DEMOCRATIC EMAILS

Paging Chairman Burr...

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They never stole them Dis... they only wanted to borrow them for a bit and then give them back. You see a crime, I suppose it is if Stone lied about it. I am surprised Stone just didn't say we did it to them before they did it to us. Good old fashioned roll around in the mud dirty politics. Both sides willing to do whatever it takes to win... lie, cheat steal and probably just anything short of murder to get elected.

[CU88]

r hero o d hired 2 of the 3 named in his tweet!

@realDonaldTrump

Wow, so many lies by now disgraced acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe. He was fired for lying, and now his story gets even more deranged. He and Rod Rosenstein, who was hired by Jeff Sessions (another beauty), look like they were planning a very illegal act, and got caught.....

Guilty Guilty Guilty

[dislaxxic]

ROGER STONE AND THE DOZENS OF SEARCH WARRANTS ON ACCOUNTS USED TO FACILITATE THE TRANSFER AND PROMOTION OF STOLEN DEMOCRATIC EMAILS

Paging Chairman Burr...

..

They never stole them Dis... they only wanted to borrow them for a bit and then give them back. You see a crime, I suppose it is if Stone lied about it. I am surprised Stone just didn't say we did it to them before they did it to us. Good old fashioned roll around in the mud dirty politics. Both sides willing to do whatever it takes to win... lie, cheat steal and probably just anything short of murder to get elected.

Words to live by from our resident curmudgeon/cynic. I fear you are setting yourself up for a major let-down once this sad affair is all said and done. Whataboutism and false equivalencies no doubt help you sleep better at night, and form your talking points around here, but facts are facts. You're welcome to your cynical POV, but as is said so often, you're not entitled to your own facts...as much as your president says you are...

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[cradleandshoot]

Dis, I could care less what happens to Trump. He has made his own bed he will pay whatever consequences for whatever he has done wrong. I just enjoy poking at you folks about all things Trump. At times some of you folks sound more deranged than Trump is. No matter what they do to Trump come April my garden will become my top priority. Come April here on this forum folks will still be ramming their heads into the wall complaing about Trump. I am more than happy to wait and see how this whole Trump thing all plays out. In 2 more years he won't be POTUS. RELAX Dis... think about your flowers and concentrate on the important things in life. Things always work out the way they are suppose to. Maybe one of your radical socialists will be elected POTUS and everything will be all okey dokey again.

[MDlaxfan76]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... sians-and/ with all of the mass hysteria about "russian collusion" looks like Obama and the Dems were also colluding with the rooskies. Looks like the FLP faithful here on this forum will have a whole lot of splainin to do. I can hear the load of buffalo bagels going something like... those were just good faith negotiations with those murdering rooskies thugs to ease the tensions between our countries. Don't confuse Democrat collusion with Republican collusion... 2 totally different things. How right is triple R when he says... TAATS?

Good lord, cradle.
Grassley (R) and Wyden (D) are right to want to know more about what Torshin and Butina were trying to achieve in those meetings. They're accused spies and we certainly should want to know what they were after, what they were offering, and any traction they got regardless of who they were attempting to influence.

But 'collusion'???
What do you imagine in the fever swamp that they got from those meetings? What did the Obama Admin get? What did the Russians get?

I know what I "imagine" with regard to what Butina and Torshin were doing with the NRA and its sudden increase in fundraising from unknown sources and how they distributed those dollars. Follow the money.

Maybe that'll prove to be a dead end, but the GOP-led FBI and DOJ seem to think otherwise.

I say nail anyone who actually conspired with the Russians to influence our elections, at any level.
Nail anyone who lies to the FBI or to Congress, anyone who intentionally breaks election laws, anyone who launders money, etc, etc.

Do you disagree?

Collusion here is a lot like beauty. It lies in the eyes of the beholder. What else would you call it? If Obama's folks were having clandestine meetings with the rooskies and Trumps people were having clandestine meetings with the rooskies… how do you differentiate between the 2? How is one bad and the other good? I am only pointing out something that many folks here on this forum have opined about ad nauseum. If either party wants to have "secret" talks with the rooskies then the only logical conclusion given the opinions of very many FLP folks here is that it has to involve collusion with the rooskies. If that is the case then Obama is equally as guilty as Trump would be. If you can give me a logical reason why the two would be different... I am all ears waiting to hear what it is. How are they different?

What makes you think that the meetings by officials in the Obama Administration were “clandestine “???

These sorts of meetings get recorded as normal practice and I haven’t heard otherwise in these instances, have you?

Did anyone lie about having had these meetings?

Finally, cradle, you do realize that the GOP was 100% in control of all investigations over the past 2 years?

Every investigative arm in GOP control. 2 years.

That’s no longer the case, so we’re quite likely to see some different investigative focus, with subpoenas than we saw out of Nunes and crew. Also no claims that you don’t have to answer because of ‘parental’ relationship.

All that said, I don’t think anyone has a problem with nailing anyone, D or R, for any actual criminal activity. That is, except the Trumpists.

[runrussellrun]

Dis, I could care less what happens to Trump. He has made his own bed he will pay whatever consequences for whatever he has done wrong. I just enjoy poking at you folks about all things Trump. At times some of you folks sound more deranged than Trump is. No matter what they do to Trump come April my garden will become my top priority. Come April here on this forum folks will still be ramming their heads into the wall complaing about Trump. I am more than happy to wait and see how this whole Trump thing all plays out. In 2 more years he won't be POTUS. RELAX Dis... think about your flowers and concentrate on the important things in life. Things always work out the way they are suppose to. Maybe one of your radical socialists will be elected POTUS and everything will be all okey dokey again.

This is the part that the nevahtrumists, but Hillaryious was/is awesome........that they will never get.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61XUb28jkUI

the burndt doll is tRump.........gets the pretends every single time

[cradleandshoot]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... sians-and/ with all of the mass hysteria about "russian collusion" looks like Obama and the Dems were also colluding with the rooskies. Looks like the FLP faithful here on this forum will have a whole lot of splainin to do. I can hear the load of buffalo bagels going something like... those were just good faith negotiations with those murdering rooskies thugs to ease the tensions between our countries. Don't confuse Democrat collusion with Republican collusion... 2 totally different things. How right is triple R when he says... TAATS?

Good lord, cradle.
Grassley (R) and Wyden (D) are right to want to know more about what Torshin and Butina were trying to achieve in those meetings. They're accused spies and we certainly should want to know what they were after, what they were offering, and any traction they got regardless of who they were attempting to influence.

But 'collusion'???
What do you imagine in the fever swamp that they got from those meetings? What did the Obama Admin get? What did the Russians get?

I know what I "imagine" with regard to what Butina and Torshin were doing with the NRA and its sudden increase in fundraising from unknown sources and how they distributed those dollars. Follow the money.

Maybe that'll prove to be a dead end, but the GOP-led FBI and DOJ seem to think otherwise.

I say nail anyone who actually conspired with the Russians to influence our elections, at any level.
Nail anyone who lies to the FBI or to Congress, anyone who intentionally breaks election laws, anyone who launders money, etc, etc.

Do you disagree?

Collusion here is a lot like beauty. It lies in the eyes of the beholder. What else would you call it? If Obama's folks were having clandestine meetings with the rooskies and Trumps people were having clandestine meetings with the rooskies… how do you differentiate between the 2? How is one bad and the other good? I am only pointing out something that many folks here on this forum have opined about ad nauseum. If either party wants to have "secret" talks with the rooskies then the only logical conclusion given the opinions of very many FLP folks here is that it has to involve collusion with the rooskies. If that is the case then Obama is equally as guilty as Trump would be. If you can give me a logical reason why the two would be different... I am all ears waiting to hear what it is. How are they different?

What makes you think that the meetings by officials in the Obama Administration were “clandestine “???

These sorts of meetings get recorded as normal practice and I haven’t heard otherwise in these instances, have you?

Did anyone lie about having had these meetings?

Finally, cradle, you do realize that the GOP was 100% in control of all investigations over the past 2 years?

Every investigative arm in GOP control. 2 years.

That’s no longer the case, so we’re quite likely to see some different investigative focus, with subpoenas than we saw out of Nunes and crew. Also no claims that you don’t have to answer because of ‘parental’ relationship.

All that said, I don’t think anyone has a problem with nailing anyone, D or R, for any actual criminal activity. That is, except the Trumpists.

Finally, cradle, you do realize that the GOP was 100% in control of all investigations over the past 2 years?

Yes I do buttercup. Do you also realize that 80% of the DC Republicans hate Trump more than the Democrats do? Trump is not one of them. You may not like his style but Trump has one aspect of his personality that does not run through the veins of most feeble minded Republicans. He wants to win, Republicans don't give a rats rear end about winning or having any core values for that matter. Republicans are most comfortable in the back seat of the car doing their navigating from behind. They are comfortable there. They are use to being there being the dumbass back seat drivers they have always been. Trump put these sorry ass losers in the front seat and they don't even know where the seat belt is in front. The most funny part in all of this... Trump is no Republican. Trump is the chameleon who turned himself into what he needed to be to win an election. This was the ultimate game of the apprentice for him. He bullchitted his way to the oval office. This dumb ass real estate con artists single handedly beat the Democrat juggernaut and the new queen in waiting at their own game. The Dems hate him more for that than anything else. All I can tell you MD is that someday after Trump leaves office there has to be an academy award winning movie to be made out of this bizarre time in America. You could never make this stuff up. Love him or hate him the mainstream media loves the ratings they get out of this freak show going on in DC.

[runrussellrun]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... sians-and/ with all of the mass hysteria about "russian collusion" looks like Obama and the Dems were also colluding with the rooskies. Looks like the FLP faithful here on this forum will have a whole lot of splainin to do. I can hear the load of buffalo bagels going something like... those were just good faith negotiations with those murdering rooskies thugs to ease the tensions between our countries. Don't confuse Democrat collusion with Republican collusion... 2 totally different things. How right is triple R when he says... TAATS?

Good lord, cradle.
Grassley (R) and Wyden (D) are right to want to know more about what Torshin and Butina were trying to achieve in those meetings. They're accused spies and we certainly should want to know what they were after, what they were offering, and any traction they got regardless of who they were attempting to influence.

But 'collusion'???
What do you imagine in the fever swamp that they got from those meetings? What did the Obama Admin get? What did the Russians get?

I know what I "imagine" with regard to what Butina and Torshin were doing with the NRA and its sudden increase in fundraising from unknown sources and how they distributed those dollars. Follow the money.

Maybe that'll prove to be a dead end, but the GOP-led FBI and DOJ seem to think otherwise.

I say nail anyone who actually conspired with the Russians to influence our elections, at any level.
Nail anyone who lies to the FBI or to Congress, anyone who intentionally breaks election laws, anyone who launders money, etc, etc.

Do you disagree?

Collusion here is a lot like beauty. It lies in the eyes of the beholder. What else would you call it? If Obama's folks were having clandestine meetings with the rooskies and Trumps people were having clandestine meetings with the rooskies… how do you differentiate between the 2? How is one bad and the other good? I am only pointing out something that many folks here on this forum have opined about ad nauseum. If either party wants to have "secret" talks with the rooskies then the only logical conclusion given the opinions of very many FLP folks here is that it has to involve collusion with the rooskies. If that is the case then Obama is equally as guilty as Trump would be. If you can give me a logical reason why the two would be different... I am all ears waiting to hear what it is. How are they different?

What makes you think that the meetings by officials in the Obama Administration were “clandestine “???

These sorts of meetings get recorded as normal practice and I haven’t heard otherwise in these instances, have you?

Did anyone lie about having had these meetings?

Finally, cradle, you do realize that the GOP was 100% in control of all investigations over the past 2 years?

Every investigative arm in GOP control. 2 years.

That’s no longer the case, so we’re quite likely to see some different investigative focus, with subpoenas than we saw out of Nunes and crew. Also no claims that you don’t have to answer because of ‘parental’ relationship.

All that said, I don’t think anyone has a problem with nailing anyone, D or R, for any actual criminal activity. That is, except the Trumpists.

Get?

The same amount of time the US Govt. delayed the bonuses to the BONUS ARMY, should be the same amount of time former Presidents should have to wait start a foundation/non-profit.

Get?

If only you cared who gives to certain people. Obama had a fundraising bundler from CHina. Many other overseas locations as well. Who sets the wheels in motion for a FEC investigation? exactly

[MDlaxfan76]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... sians-and/ with all of the mass hysteria about "russian collusion" looks like Obama and the Dems were also colluding with the rooskies. Looks like the FLP faithful here on this forum will have a whole lot of splainin to do. I can hear the load of buffalo bagels going something like... those were just good faith negotiations with those murdering rooskies thugs to ease the tensions between our countries. Don't confuse Democrat collusion with Republican collusion... 2 totally different things. How right is triple R when he says... TAATS?

Good lord, cradle.
Grassley (R) and Wyden (D) are right to want to know more about what Torshin and Butina were trying to achieve in those meetings. They're accused spies and we certainly should want to know what they were after, what they were offering, and any traction they got regardless of who they were attempting to influence.

But 'collusion'???
What do you imagine in the fever swamp that they got from those meetings? What did the Obama Admin get? What did the Russians get?

I know what I "imagine" with regard to what Butina and Torshin were doing with the NRA and its sudden increase in fundraising from unknown sources and how they distributed those dollars. Follow the money.

Maybe that'll prove to be a dead end, but the GOP-led FBI and DOJ seem to think otherwise.

I say nail anyone who actually conspired with the Russians to influence our elections, at any level.
Nail anyone who lies to the FBI or to Congress, anyone who intentionally breaks election laws, anyone who launders money, etc, etc.

Do you disagree?

Collusion here is a lot like beauty. It lies in the eyes of the beholder. What else would you call it? If Obama's folks were having clandestine meetings with the rooskies and Trumps people were having clandestine meetings with the rooskies… how do you differentiate between the 2? How is one bad and the other good? I am only pointing out something that many folks here on this forum have opined about ad nauseum. If either party wants to have "secret" talks with the rooskies then the only logical conclusion given the opinions of very many FLP folks here is that it has to involve collusion with the rooskies. If that is the case then Obama is equally as guilty as Trump would be. If you can give me a logical reason why the two would be different... I am all ears waiting to hear what it is. How are they different?

What makes you think that the meetings by officials in the Obama Administration were “clandestine “???

These sorts of meetings get recorded as normal practice and I haven’t heard otherwise in these instances, have you?

Did anyone lie about having had these meetings?

Finally, cradle, you do realize that the GOP was 100% in control of all investigations over the past 2 years?

Every investigative arm in GOP control. 2 years.

That’s no longer the case, so we’re quite likely to see some different investigative focus, with subpoenas than we saw out of Nunes and crew. Also no claims that you don’t have to answer because of ‘parental’ relationship.

All that said, I don’t think anyone has a problem with nailing anyone, D or R, for any actual criminal activity. That is, except the Trumpists.

Finally, cradle, you do realize that the GOP was 100% in control of all investigations over the past 2 years?

Yes I do buttercup. Do you also realize that 80% of the DC Republicans hate Trump more than the Democrats do? Trump is not one of them. You may not like his style but Trump has one aspect of his personality that does not run through the veins of most feeble minded Republicans. He wants to win, Republicans don't give a rats rear end about winning or having any core values for that matter. Republicans are most comfortable in the back seat of the car doing their navigating from behind. They are comfortable there. They are use to being there being the dumbass back seat drivers they have always been. Trump put these sorry ass losers in the front seat and they don't even know where the seat belt is in front. The most funny part in all of this... Trump is no Republican. Trump is the chameleon who turned himself into what he needed to be to win an election. This was the ultimate game of the apprentice for him. He bullchitted his way to the oval office. This dumb ass real estate con artists single handedly beat the Democrat juggernaut and the new queen in waiting at their own game. The Dems hate him more for that than anything else. All I can tell you MD is that someday after Trump leaves office there has to be an academy award winning movie to be made out of this bizarre time in America. You could never make this stuff up. Love him or hate him the mainstream media loves the ratings they get out of this freak show going on in DC.

“Buttercup”???

So, I think you are saying that you disdain Rs almost as much as you hate Dems.

Ok

But do you really imagine that all these Rs would give give the Obama folks a pass?

Nunes?? Really???

Over at the FBI and DOJ Trump has had his own appointees running the show and I don’t mean just the top dog. Bunch of political appointees.

Again, these guys have been giving the Obama folks a pass?

You do realize how ridiculous that is, right?

[jhu72]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... sians-and/ with all of the mass hysteria about "russian collusion" looks like Obama and the Dems were also colluding with the rooskies. Looks like the FLP faithful here on this forum will have a whole lot of splainin to do. I can hear the load of buffalo bagels going something like... those were just good faith negotiations with those murdering rooskies thugs to ease the tensions between our countries. Don't confuse Democrat collusion with Republican collusion... 2 totally different things. How right is triple R when he says... TAATS?

Good lord, cradle.
Grassley (R) and Wyden (D) are right to want to know more about what Torshin and Butina were trying to achieve in those meetings. They're accused spies and we certainly should want to know what they were after, what they were offering, and any traction they got regardless of who they were attempting to influence.

But 'collusion'???
What do you imagine in the fever swamp that they got from those meetings? What did the Obama Admin get? What did the Russians get?

I know what I "imagine" with regard to what Butina and Torshin were doing with the NRA and its sudden increase in fundraising from unknown sources and how they distributed those dollars. Follow the money.

Maybe that'll prove to be a dead end, but the GOP-led FBI and DOJ seem to think otherwise.

I say nail anyone who actually conspired with the Russians to influence our elections, at any level.
Nail anyone who lies to the FBI or to Congress, anyone who intentionally breaks election laws, anyone who launders money, etc, etc.

Do you disagree?

Collusion here is a lot like beauty. It lies in the eyes of the beholder. What else would you call it? If Obama's folks were having clandestine meetings with the rooskies and Trumps people were having clandestine meetings with the rooskies… how do you differentiate between the 2? How is one bad and the other good? I am only pointing out something that many folks here on this forum have opined about ad nauseum. If either party wants to have "secret" talks with the rooskies then the only logical conclusion given the opinions of very many FLP folks here is that it has to involve collusion with the rooskies. If that is the case then Obama is equally as guilty as Trump would be. If you can give me a logical reason why the two would be different... I am all ears waiting to hear what it is. How are they different?

What makes you think that the meetings by officials in the Obama Administration were “clandestine “???

These sorts of meetings get recorded as normal practice and I haven’t heard otherwise in these instances, have you?

Did anyone lie about having had these meetings?

Finally, cradle, you do realize that the GOP was 100% in control of all investigations over the past 2 years?

Every investigative arm in GOP control. 2 years.

That’s no longer the case, so we’re quite likely to see some different investigative focus, with subpoenas than we saw out of Nunes and crew. Also no claims that you don’t have to answer because of ‘parental’ relationship.

All that said, I don’t think anyone has a problem with nailing anyone, D or R, for any actual criminal activity. That is, except the Trumpists.

Finally, cradle, you do realize that the GOP was 100% in control of all investigations over the past 2 years?

Yes I do buttercup. Do you also realize that 80% of the DC Republicans hate Trump more than the Democrats do? Trump is not one of them. You may not like his style but Trump has one aspect of his personality that does not run through the veins of most feeble minded Republicans. He wants to win, Republicans don't give a rats rear end about winning or having any core values for that matter. Republicans are most comfortable in the back seat of the car doing their navigating from behind. They are comfortable there. They are use to being there being the dumbass back seat drivers they have always been. Trump put these sorry ass losers in the front seat and they don't even know where the seat belt is in front. The most funny part in all of this... Trump is no Republican. Trump is the chameleon who turned himself into what he needed to be to win an election. This was the ultimate game of the apprentice for him. He bullchitted his way to the oval office. This dumb ass real estate con artists single handedly beat the Democrat juggernaut and the new queen in waiting at their own game. The Dems hate him more for that than anything else. All I can tell you MD is that someday after Trump leaves office there has to be an academy award winning movie to be made out of this bizarre time in America. You could never make this stuff up. Love him or hate him the mainstream media loves the ratings they get out of this freak show going on in DC.

“Buttercup”???

So, I think you are saying that you disdain Rs almost as much as you hate Dems.

Ok

But do you really imagine that all these Rs would give give the Obama folks a pass?

Nunes?? Really???

Over at the FBI and DOJ Trump has had his own appointees running the show and I don’t mean just the top dog. Bunch of political appointees.

Again, these guys have been giving the Obama folks a pass?

You do realize how ridiculous that is, right?

There is no there there with Obama or Hillary, as much as people would like there to be, just ain't so!

[youthathletics]

I guess it’s settled, lock the thread.

[Trinity]

Andrew McCabe is gonna own Maralago. Graham wants public testimony? So does McCabe. Let’s do it.

[cradleandshoot]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... sians-and/ with all of the mass hysteria about "russian collusion" looks like Obama and the Dems were also colluding with the rooskies. Looks like the FLP faithful here on this forum will have a whole lot of splainin to do. I can hear the load of buffalo bagels going something like... those were just good faith negotiations with those murdering rooskies thugs to ease the tensions between our countries. Don't confuse Democrat collusion with Republican collusion... 2 totally different things. How right is triple R when he says... TAATS?

Good lord, cradle.
Grassley (R) and Wyden (D) are right to want to know more about what Torshin and Butina were trying to achieve in those meetings. They're accused spies and we certainly should want to know what they were after, what they were offering, and any traction they got regardless of who they were attempting to influence.

But 'collusion'???
What do you imagine in the fever swamp that they got from those meetings? What did the Obama Admin get? What did the Russians get?

I know what I "imagine" with regard to what Butina and Torshin were doing with the NRA and its sudden increase in fundraising from unknown sources and how they distributed those dollars. Follow the money.

Maybe that'll prove to be a dead end, but the GOP-led FBI and DOJ seem to think otherwise.

I say nail anyone who actually conspired with the Russians to influence our elections, at any level.
Nail anyone who lies to the FBI or to Congress, anyone who intentionally breaks election laws, anyone who launders money, etc, etc.

Do you disagree?

Collusion here is a lot like beauty. It lies in the eyes of the beholder. What else would you call it? If Obama's folks were having clandestine meetings with the rooskies and Trumps people were having clandestine meetings with the rooskies… how do you differentiate between the 2? How is one bad and the other good? I am only pointing out something that many folks here on this forum have opined about ad nauseum. If either party wants to have "secret" talks with the rooskies then the only logical conclusion given the opinions of very many FLP folks here is that it has to involve collusion with the rooskies. If that is the case then Obama is equally as guilty as Trump would be. If you can give me a logical reason why the two would be different... I am all ears waiting to hear what it is. How are they different?

What makes you think that the meetings by officials in the Obama Administration were “clandestine “???

These sorts of meetings get recorded as normal practice and I haven’t heard otherwise in these instances, have you?

Did anyone lie about having had these meetings?

Finally, cradle, you do realize that the GOP was 100% in control of all investigations over the past 2 years?

Every investigative arm in GOP control. 2 years.

That’s no longer the case, so we’re quite likely to see some different investigative focus, with subpoenas than we saw out of Nunes and crew. Also no claims that you don’t have to answer because of ‘parental’ relationship.

All that said, I don’t think anyone has a problem with nailing anyone, D or R, for any actual criminal activity. That is, except the Trumpists.

Finally, cradle, you do realize that the GOP was 100% in control of all investigations over the past 2 years?

Yes I do buttercup. Do you also realize that 80% of the DC Republicans hate Trump more than the Democrats do? Trump is not one of them. You may not like his style but Trump has one aspect of his personality that does not run through the veins of most feeble minded Republicans. He wants to win, Republicans don't give a rats rear end about winning or having any core values for that matter. Republicans are most comfortable in the back seat of the car doing their navigating from behind. They are comfortable there. They are use to being there being the dumbass back seat drivers they have always been. Trump put these sorry ass losers in the front seat and they don't even know where the seat belt is in front. The most funny part in all of this... Trump is no Republican. Trump is the chameleon who turned himself into what he needed to be to win an election. This was the ultimate game of the apprentice for him. He bullchitted his way to the oval office. This dumb ass real estate con artists single handedly beat the Democrat juggernaut and the new queen in waiting at their own game. The Dems hate him more for that than anything else. All I can tell you MD is that someday after Trump leaves office there has to be an academy award winning movie to be made out of this bizarre time in America. You could never make this stuff up. Love him or hate him the mainstream media loves the ratings they get out of this freak show going on in DC.

“Buttercup”???

So, I think you are saying that you disdain Rs almost as much as you hate Dems.

Ok

But do you really imagine that all these Rs would give give the Obama folks a pass?

Nunes?? Really???

Over at the FBI and DOJ Trump has had his own appointees running the show and I don’t mean just the top dog. Bunch of political appointees.

Again, these guys have been giving the Obama folks a pass?

You do realize how ridiculous that is, right?

I think these Republicans would be satisfied with 2 fires and 2 spits. Obama roasting on one and Trump being basted while on the other. Trump is equally hated by both parties and that includes Trumps people at the FBI and DOJ and anywhere that he thinks he has friends. The vast majority of Obamas critics in the Republican party are as they would say in Texas... all hat and no cattle. Do you think BHO ever broke out in a sweat from anything these limp noodle republicans tried to hit him with? I never cared much for Obama policies but he sure knew how to deal with Republicans. He was clearly much more adept at the nuances of politics than any of the Republicans chasing their tails to try and catch him.

[cradleandshoot]

Andrew McCabe is gonna own Maralago. Graham wants public testimony? So does McCabe. Let’s do it.

I think he would rather own Key Largo Mr McCabe would. There is probably too much Republican stench in Maralago to be to his liking. Besides, Mr McCabe could have some legal troubles of his own to deal with. You know those 5am wake up calls with 100's of agents and armored vehicles and battering rams and tear gas and machine guns A good old fashioned show of force sure does warm the soul.

[MDlaxfan76]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... sians-and/ with all of the mass hysteria about "russian collusion" looks like Obama and the Dems were also colluding with the rooskies. Looks like the FLP faithful here on this forum will have a whole lot of splainin to do. I can hear the load of buffalo bagels going something like... those were just good faith negotiations with those murdering rooskies thugs to ease the tensions between our countries. Don't confuse Democrat collusion with Republican collusion... 2 totally different things. How right is triple R when he says... TAATS?

Good lord, cradle.
Grassley (R) and Wyden (D) are right to want to know more about what Torshin and Butina were trying to achieve in those meetings. They're accused spies and we certainly should want to know what they were after, what they were offering, and any traction they got regardless of who they were attempting to influence.

But 'collusion'???
What do you imagine in the fever swamp that they got from those meetings? What did the Obama Admin get? What did the Russians get?

I know what I "imagine" with regard to what Butina and Torshin were doing with the NRA and its sudden increase in fundraising from unknown sources and how they distributed those dollars. Follow the money.

Maybe that'll prove to be a dead end, but the GOP-led FBI and DOJ seem to think otherwise.

I say nail anyone who actually conspired with the Russians to influence our elections, at any level.
Nail anyone who lies to the FBI or to Congress, anyone who intentionally breaks election laws, anyone who launders money, etc, etc.

Do you disagree?

Collusion here is a lot like beauty. It lies in the eyes of the beholder. What else would you call it? If Obama's folks were having clandestine meetings with the rooskies and Trumps people were having clandestine meetings with the rooskies… how do you differentiate between the 2? How is one bad and the other good? I am only pointing out something that many folks here on this forum have opined about ad nauseum. If either party wants to have "secret" talks with the rooskies then the only logical conclusion given the opinions of very many FLP folks here is that it has to involve collusion with the rooskies. If that is the case then Obama is equally as guilty as Trump would be. If you can give me a logical reason why the two would be different... I am all ears waiting to hear what it is. How are they different?

What makes you think that the meetings by officials in the Obama Administration were “clandestine “???

These sorts of meetings get recorded as normal practice and I haven’t heard otherwise in these instances, have you?

Did anyone lie about having had these meetings?

Finally, cradle, you do realize that the GOP was 100% in control of all investigations over the past 2 years?

Every investigative arm in GOP control. 2 years.

That’s no longer the case, so we’re quite likely to see some different investigative focus, with subpoenas than we saw out of Nunes and crew. Also no claims that you don’t have to answer because of ‘parental’ relationship.

All that said, I don’t think anyone has a problem with nailing anyone, D or R, for any actual criminal activity. That is, except the Trumpists.

Finally, cradle, you do realize that the GOP was 100% in control of all investigations over the past 2 years?

Yes I do buttercup. Do you also realize that 80% of the DC Republicans hate Trump more than the Democrats do? Trump is not one of them. You may not like his style but Trump has one aspect of his personality that does not run through the veins of most feeble minded Republicans. He wants to win, Republicans don't give a rats rear end about winning or having any core values for that matter. Republicans are most comfortable in the back seat of the car doing their navigating from behind. They are comfortable there. They are use to being there being the dumbass back seat drivers they have always been. Trump put these sorry ass losers in the front seat and they don't even know where the seat belt is in front. The most funny part in all of this... Trump is no Republican. Trump is the chameleon who turned himself into what he needed to be to win an election. This was the ultimate game of the apprentice for him. He bullchitted his way to the oval office. This dumb ass real estate con artists single handedly beat the Democrat juggernaut and the new queen in waiting at their own game. The Dems hate him more for that than anything else. All I can tell you MD is that someday after Trump leaves office there has to be an academy award winning movie to be made out of this bizarre time in America. You could never make this stuff up. Love him or hate him the mainstream media loves the ratings they get out of this freak show going on in DC.

“Buttercup”???

So, I think you are saying that you disdain Rs almost as much as you hate Dems.

Ok

But do you really imagine that all these Rs would give give the Obama folks a pass?

Nunes?? Really???

Over at the FBI and DOJ Trump has had his own appointees running the show and I don’t mean just the top dog. Bunch of political appointees.

Again, these guys have been giving the Obama folks a pass?

You do realize how ridiculous that is, right?

I think these Republicans would be satisfied with 2 fires and 2 spits. Obama roasting on one and Trump being basted while on the other. Trump is equally hated by both parties and that includes Trumps people at the FBI and DOJ and anywhere that he thinks he has friends. The vast majority of Obamas critics in the Republican party are as they would say in Texas... all hat and no cattle. Do you think BHO ever broke out in a sweat from anything these limp noodle republicans tried to hit him with? I never cared much for Obama policies but he sure knew how to deal with Republicans. He was clearly much more adept at the nuances of politics than any of the Republicans chasing their tails to try and catch him.

I think you're correct that there are a bunch of law and order types over at FBI and DOJ who are absolutely appalled at Trump. I don't think they give a darn about his policies or whether he's "one of them", it's that he's so immensely corrupt. I can't tell whether your really understand that or not, but when folks who've devoted their lives to battling criminal and terrorists and foreign adversaries come across this level of corruption, they're understandably horrified. That he's such a butt-hole too doesn't help.

I think you're also correct that Obama didn't give these folks the ammunition to come after him. But it's not because he's so adept, it's that he just isn't personally corrupt in the same way. Sure, he, like most politicians battle to win, including the occasional exaggeration for political effect, but you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who thinks that Obama was or is actually corrupt. HRC is a different kettle of fish, though.

The people who really don't care, who are full out partisan, like Nunes, would go after absolutely any Dem if they had half a chance to do so. Yet, nada for two years.

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McCabe is a Republican cop who kept a memo book. Game on

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A memo book, by a liar, got it. His memo book is the one he is promoting, like Pelly did with his reading glasses that he never puts on...gotta make up for lost retirement pension.

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I think these Republicans would be satisfied with 2 fires and 2 spits. Obama roasting on one and Trump being basted while on the other. Trump is equally hated by both parties and that includes Trumps people at the FBI and DOJ and anywhere that he thinks he has friends. The vast majority of Obamas critics in the Republican party are as they would say in Texas... all hat and no cattle. Do you think BHO ever broke out in a sweat from anything these limp noodle republicans tried to hit him with? I never cared much for Obama policies but he sure knew how to deal with Republicans. He was clearly much more adept at the nuances of politics than any of the Republicans chasing their tails to try and catch him.

I think you're correct that there are a bunch of law and order types over at FBI and DOJ who are absolutely appalled at Trump. I don't think they give a darn about his policies or whether he's "one of them", it's that he's so immensely corrupt. I can't tell whether your really understand that or not, but when folks who've devoted their lives to battling criminal and terrorists and foreign adversaries come across this level of corruption, they're understandably horrified. That he's such a butt-hole too doesn't help.

I think you're also correct that Obama didn't give these folks the ammunition to come after him. But it's not because he's so adept, it's that he just isn't personally corrupt in the same way. Sure, he, like most politicians battle to win, including the occasional exaggeration for political effect, but you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who thinks that Obama was or is actually corrupt. HRC is a different kettle of fish, though.

The people who really don't care, who are full out partisan, like Nunes, would go after absolutely any Dem if they had half a chance to do so. Yet, nada for two years.

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corrupt? I think coach K and his court is corrupt. He hasn't been charged with anything either. tRump is corrupt eh. not a crime to be sleazy, yet.

we all got em....opinions and arseoles. what did evah become of that fbi basketball, sneaker scandal. Louisville play in the ACC? exactly

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I bet they will never allow McCabe to explain his motives in detail in public. Not until Mueller Time. Why is Roger Stone begging to sit in jail until trial?