Agreed, good contributors, missed...again, maybe there's a way to invite them back in if things get cleaned up. Hopefully the Admin has their registered email addresses...DMac wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:58 pmPretty interesting, MDlax, yup next to no activity at Hamsterdam. Now that it's been mentioned a few times, I think it's probably right that the Trump effect can be seen here. There is little to no tolerance for one's opinion when it's not in line with another's and it very quickly goes the childish, name calling, rudeness that Trump made the norm. You know as well as I do there used to be interesting discussions despite differences in the past and there was a damn good group of people who hung around these parts. Yes, when it got a little out of hand the person whose name can't even be mentioned here would do what he thought needed to be done to clean the show up a bit and some didn't take too kindly to that. This isn't a matter of admin keeping the place respectable though, that's up to the posters. Again, you know the tone here is nothing like it was in the past. Yes, I can fly off the handle and be an aszwhole, but more often than not I can also come back and be respectful and continue on with a sense of decency with the person I had a disagreement with. Now the continuation of name calling and just beating one another up is the norm. The number of participants here at the Water Cooler speaks for itself. HooDat, The Chairman, a fan, and a boatload of other good contributors are still around but they don't come here to play anymore. I don't wonder why they don't.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 11:46 amAt least those regularly participating in these particular discussion threads...And that's the point.DMac wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 11:34 am It was about the town going to schidt, nothing more. If the video had ended after the congregation had sung their catchy little hymn it would have been fine with me.
I'm not looking for anyone's help, I can leave the party if I don't like it. Their house, their party, the can run it whatever way they want. Will ask again, how many people are sticking around the party? Lot of empty hangers in that coat room that used to have coats on 'em. Jus' sayin'.
How can the "party" be improved?
Or will the jerks cause folks who want to have a good time without getting puked on decide to leave?
Again, we asked for a light moderation hand...but for folks to be respectful in their discourse, else take it to Hamsterdam which has virtually no rules.
And lo and behold, Hamsterdam gets almost no usage...but over time the discourse on this part of the site has become increasingly more rancorous and less inviting to those who don't want to get puked on. So, it seems to need some adjustment.
If that occurs, and works, hopefully the Admin will be able to reach out to those who had departed and invite them to participate again.
Forgive the metaphor, but whether being puked on directly or just having to navigate puddles of puke, very few sober folks actually want to be at a pukefest. And they sure don't want to bring their kids, spouses, etc...
We all pop off at times; I agree that the key is the ability to calm down, say you're sorry if you went out of line, admit you're wrong if there's a convincing piece of logic or fact, etc...not the entrenched warfare that give some their jollies.
I count myself as one who didn't like some of the LP moderation decisions that seemed to favor, overly IMO, the 'reputations' of coaches, and certain ones more so than others...felt like favoritism was the rule, not consistency...it seemed to me that exchange of views and first hand info when had, regarding coaches, particularly how they handled the players...was of service to the community and shouldn't be squashed because the mod felt differently. But that was my only significant objection to active moderation.
Anyway, I'm in favor of our host Admin easing into penalizing egregious, repetitive behavior that contributes to toxicity rather than respectful conversation...I want to hear opposing views, I just don't want to get puked on or have to navigate through puddles of puke...