I'll piggy back off this - he's been quoted as saying he didn't fit in with his teammates, they excluded him from bonding moments, they only look out for themselves and making money. They're not blue collar etc etc. Which by all accounts from sources close to the program is simply not true. Some poster have decided to point out the HS that the Loyola players come from, the staff doesn't care how affluent the neighborhood is. They make their kids work hard and earn playing time. That staff does NOT play favorites despite how good a player performs during games.nyjay wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 9:52 amBased on what's been publicly reported, by IL and elsewhere, and what's been stated on this on other boards, I don't think it's at all unreasonable or irresponsible to believe that Hopkins was in on trying to get Scanlan to come. If you disagree, OC, that's fine, but please stop with the moral superiority. I might also suggest that it's not unreasonable to believe that DP was in a very different position 10 years ago that he was 18 months ago. He had to have known he was on the hot seat and thus might have been more willing to take risks for a kid perceived to be a star, even if there were some character concerns. All that said, my simple point is this - the lacrosse community is a very small and everyone talks - it's hard to believe that Scanlan didn't have something of a reputation within that community long ago, especially given the stench around his exit from Loyola (based largely on his own quoted comments).OCanada wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:22 am If we banned speculation a lot of the BS that gets posted would clear up. Too many post as fact what is pure speculation based on thin gruel at best if not the exercise of bias.
Since I know all three coaches involved I will speculate based on what I know to be their operating styles.
When Petro was hired to replace TS it was not because TS failed to win a title. It was because off field behavior was becoming problematic and threatening to potentially harm the team.
DP and the AD were committed to mandating academic progress with no off field incidents. Any coach placesctheir future at the mercy of a bunch of kids whose executive function won’t develop until their mid 20s. DP passed on the twins after seeing a hoops game where they refused to follow their coaches directions, he thought they were “uncoachsble. ”. Cuse and UVA continued. Dom would later regret the decision but at the time it was a judgment call that didn’t work out. Point is DP didn’t think it worth the risk. He is very careful in screening potential players for character given the damage a bad decision could produce. Recall the dust up when a player told his mom about a hazing ritual that stretched back at least 60 years. Daniels wanted to cancel the season and was only stopped by the support the program had. He was not happy to lose. He has a long memory.
Toomey is also very careful on this issue. Had the player called DP the first thing he would have done is called Toomey to get his input. If there was an issue Toomey would have told him. If there was that kind of issue DP would have passed. Even if there were not he probably would have passed by virtue of potential harm to team chemistry. In the event it would also have been run past the team.
Desko would also have talked to Toomey. Cuse has a program for Indians they have used to fund players off the Rez. There is still a perceived risk to players off the Rez. Cuse could not get the Thompsons in. Albany stepped in and did. It’s scary what Cuse might have accomplished with the Thompsons
A friend of mine from the Rez who was an AA at Cuse has been trying to get Indians to look past Cuse to other schools for their education. He described the risk to that as the problem of being socially accepted and feeling out of place.
Regarding his syracuse teammates, he said he feels at home, he felt welcomed as soon as he was added to the team groupchat once he committed to transferring. Fast forward 1 year, he's alienated, ostracized due to his actions. If you check twitter theres this one adamant defender of Scanlan thats trying to spin this into a race/politics issue regarding the suspension and DV. Now if anything in that article is remotely true, is it really the teammates fault in both schools, or is it more internal/personal with him