2021 NCAA Tournament

[Matnum PI]

Is this right?
7 AQs. 1 more coming: Lehigh or Loyola. That's 8.
5 from ACC. That's 13.
RU, DU. That's 15.
One more is either Lehigh/Loyola loser, Delaware, or Villanova. So...

IN:
1 Bryant
2 Denver
3 Drexel
4 Duke
5 Georgetown
6 High Point
7 Maryland
8 Monmouth
9 Notre Dame
10 Rutgers
11 Syracuse
12 UNC
13 Vermont
14 Virginia
15 Loyola-Lehigh Winner

1 of 3 (below) will also be in:
16 Loyola-Lehigh Loser
17 Villanova
18 Delaware

That right?

[jrn19]

Also, what does “I can’t say what I know” mean

If you have examples of the NCAA doing what you said, please provide them. You’re the one who made the claim

Then I said forget it but you won’t let me. Completely consistent and logical but whatever.

You can forget whatever you want. It's an internet comment board. No one's making you post

[jrn19]

Is this right?
7 AQs. 1 more coming: Lehigh or Loyola. That's 8.
5 from ACC. That's 13.
RU, DU. That's 15.
One more is either Lehigh/Loyola loser, Delaware, or Villanova. So...

IN:
1 Bryant
2 Denver
3 Drexel
4 Duke
5 Georgetown
6 High Point
7 Maryland
8 Monmouth
9 Notre Dame
10 Rutgers
11 Syracuse
12 UNC
13 Vermont
14 Virginia
15 Loyola-Lehigh Winner

1 of 4 (below) will also be in:
16 Loyola-Lehigh Loser
17 Villanova
18 Delaware

That right?

I think Army/Rutgers/Loyola are fighting for 1 AL bid presuming Loyola loses the PL tomorrow. Honestly no idea who gets it. And if Loyola wins it's between Army and Rutgers. No idea who gets that. But those are the final 3 IMO. Cuse and Denver are safe

[jrn19]

Look on a dozen threads and it’s been happening for a month or longer. Nothing I’m doing is whining it’s a counterpoint to a lot of BS.

I can’t think of any champion in any sport who would’ve thought the way folks are here. It’s put your head down and get it down regardless of circumstance.

Of course no champion thinks how we do on here; that's why they play and we're not. We're supposed to BS and look ahead and do all the things coaches tell players not to do. We're not players we're fans

[Matnum PI]

I think Army/Rutgers/Loyola are fighting for 1 AL bid presuming Loyola loses the PL tomorrow. Honestly no idea who gets it. And if Loyola wins it's between Army and Rutgers. No idea who gets that. But those are the final 3 IMO. Cuse and Denver are safe

If Rutgers isn't in, who from my list is? Who has their spot? Villanova?

[jrn19]

I think Army/Rutgers/Loyola are fighting for 1 AL bid presuming Loyola loses the PL tomorrow. Honestly no idea who gets it. And if Loyola wins it's between Army and Rutgers. No idea who gets that. But those are the final 3 IMO. Cuse and Denver are safe

If Rutgers isn't in, who from my list is? Who has their spot? Villanova?

AQ:

Maryland
Georgetown
Bryant
Drexel
Monmouth
Vermont
High Point
LOY/Lehigh winner

AL:
UNC
Duke
ND
UVA
Cuse
Denver

So you have 6 AL spots wrapped up. Army, Rutgers, LOY/Lehigh loser are fighting for those 2 spots. 2 of them will get it. I'm not sure which 2 it'll be.

[Matnum PI]

Army, Rutgers, LOY/Lehigh loser are fighting for those 2 spots.

i think Delaware and Villanova are also in this mix and... i think RU gets 1.

[keno in reno]

Cuse is not getting in over Rutgers

[jrn19]

Army, Rutgers, LOY/Lehigh loser are fighting for those 2 spots.

i think Delaware and Villanova are also in this mix and... i think RU gets 1.

Can't see Delaware in the mix. They don't have the wins Army or Loyola do and they have been ranked by Rutgers in the Coaches Poll all year long. Good team, but the CAA was a 1 bid league.

Villanova was in the mix and the Lehigh W if Lehigh loses to Loyola makes it interesting but they had 5 chances to beat Denver or Georgetown and lost....all of them. I think that's the death knell for them. A Georgetown win and they very well may have been in though. Also good team.

If you think Rutgers gets a bid, then one of Army and Lehigh/Loyola loser are getting left out. Take your pick. I really don't know.

[jrn19]

Cuse is not getting in over Rutgers

They're going too. Not saying it's the right decision or you gotta love it; but the 2 Virginia wins are just so much more than anything else Rugers has that it'll be enough. Also, no bad losses on their resume in terms of who they lost too (how they lost obviously a different ?.)

Cuse and Rutgers might both get in; but Rutgers ain't getting in over Cuse

[keno in reno]

ACC5 is getting in over B1G2. Especially when ACC5 loses by 164 goals to 3 teams.

[JeremyCuse]

Cuse is not getting in over Rutgers

Yes, yes they are. RU doesn't have a win over a team with a winning record, SU has two top 5 wins, end of discussion.

[jrn19]

ACC5 is getting in over B1G2. Especially when ACC5 loses by 164 goals to 3 teams.

Again, not saying you gotta love it. But they're in.

[NYterp09]

Cuse is not getting in over Rutgers

They're going too. Not saying it's the right decision or you gotta love it; but the 2 Virginia wins are just so much more than anything else Rugers has that it'll be enough. Also, no bad losses on their resume in terms of who they lost too (how they lost obviously a different ?.)

Cuse and Rutgers might both get in; but Rutgers ain't getting in over Cuse

Why are you assuming the committee won’t look at how bad many of those cuse losses were? The opponent obviously matters but so does the competitiveness of the game. At least I think it should.

[jrn19]

Cuse is not getting in over Rutgers

They're going too. Not saying it's the right decision or you gotta love it; but the 2 Virginia wins are just so much more than anything else Rugers has that it'll be enough. Also, no bad losses on their resume in terms of who they lost too (how they lost obviously a different ?.)

Cuse and Rutgers might both get in; but Rutgers ain't getting in over Cuse

Why are you assuming the committee won’t look at how bad many of those cuse losses were? The opponent obviously matters but so does the competitiveness of the game. At least I think it should.

Because the committee has said in the past and has this for years that MoV or in this case margin of defeat doesn't matter. Just the win or the loss.

[NYterp09]

Cuse is not getting in over Rutgers

They're going too. Not saying it's the right decision or you gotta love it; but the 2 Virginia wins are just so much more than anything else Rugers has that it'll be enough. Also, no bad losses on their resume in terms of who they lost too (how they lost obviously a different ?.)

Cuse and Rutgers might both get in; but Rutgers ain't getting in over Cuse

Why are you assuming the committee won’t look at how bad many of those cuse losses were? The opponent obviously matters but so does the competitiveness of the game. At least I think it should.

Because the committee has said in the past and has this for years that MoV or in this case margin of defeat doesn't matter. Just the win or the loss.

Right but that’s because they could rely on traditional metrics like RPI...they can’t do that this year so how can they not factor in the eye test?

[jrn19]

Cuse is not getting in over Rutgers

They're going too. Not saying it's the right decision or you gotta love it; but the 2 Virginia wins are just so much more than anything else Rugers has that it'll be enough. Also, no bad losses on their resume in terms of who they lost too (how they lost obviously a different ?.)

Cuse and Rutgers might both get in; but Rutgers ain't getting in over Cuse

Why are you assuming the committee won’t look at how bad many of those cuse losses were? The opponent obviously matters but so does the competitiveness of the game. At least I think it should.

Because the committee has said in the past and has this for years that MoV or in this case margin of defeat doesn't matter. Just the win or the loss.

Right but that’s because they could rely on traditional metrics like RPI...they can’t do that this year so how can they not factor in the eye test?

Even if they do; Cuse still has 2 wins Rutgers doesn't. So you're weighing the 2 wins vs bad losses. Wins probably gonna win out in that case

[keno in reno]

Cuse is not getting in over Rutgers

Yes, yes they are. RU doesn't have a win over a team with a winning record, SU has two top 5 wins, end of discussion.

No, it's not end of discussion.

[NYterp09]

Cuse is not getting in over Rutgers

They're going too. Not saying it's the right decision or you gotta love it; but the 2 Virginia wins are just so much more than anything else Rugers has that it'll be enough. Also, no bad losses on their resume in terms of who they lost too (how they lost obviously a different ?.)

Cuse and Rutgers might both get in; but Rutgers ain't getting in over Cuse

Why are you assuming the committee won’t look at how bad many of those cuse losses were? The opponent obviously matters but so does the competitiveness of the game. At least I think it should.

Because the committee has said in the past and has this for years that MoV or in this case margin of defeat doesn't matter. Just the win or the loss.

Right but that’s because they could rely on traditional metrics like RPI...they can’t do that this year so how can they not factor in the eye test?

Even if they do; Cuse still has 2 wins Rutgers doesn't. So you're weighing the 2 wins vs bad losses. Wins probably gonna win out in that case

Right I’m just not sure that two wins (over the same team) should outweigh four embarrassing, blowout losses

[keno in reno]

Cuse is not getting in over Rutgers

They're going too. Not saying it's the right decision or you gotta love it; but the 2 Virginia wins are just so much more than anything else Rugers has that it'll be enough. Also, no bad losses on their resume in terms of who they lost too (how they lost obviously a different ?.)

Cuse and Rutgers might both get in; but Rutgers ain't getting in over Cuse

Why are you assuming the committee won’t look at how bad many of those cuse losses were? The opponent obviously matters but so does the competitiveness of the game. At least I think it should.

Because the committee has said in the past and has this for years that MoV or in this case margin of defeat doesn't matter. Just the win or the loss.

Right but that’s because they could rely on traditional metrics like RPI...they can’t do that this year so how can they not factor in the eye test?

Even if they do; Cuse still has 2 wins Rutgers doesn't. So you're weighing the 2 wins vs bad losses. Wins probably gonna win out in that case

Right I’m just not sure that two wins (over the same team) should outweigh four embarrassing, blowout losses

Yep, it all depends. This aint the basketball selection committee with literally thousands of intersecting data points to analyze. Most people who simply watched the lacrosse games this season would say Syracuse does not deserve a bid. They sucked and/or just gave up in a third of their games. But maybe their 2 wins over UVA override that.

Who knows if Rutgers is even the main competition against Syracuse for the bid? Rutgers is a good team. They probably would not beat UVA twice this year, but they also wouldn't quit playing like Syracuse did...TBD