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Re: Climate Change & The Environment: A Green New Deal

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Kismet wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:17 am
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We need to drink more water. ;)
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youthathletics wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:15 am
We need to drink more water. ;)


Will be a net positive for America if NYC sinks.

Burn more fuel.
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Peter Brown wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:31 am
youthathletics wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:15 am
We need to drink more water. ;)


Will be a net positive for America if NYC sinks.

Burn more fuel.
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a fan wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:40 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:31 am
youthathletics wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:15 am
We need to drink more water. ;)


Will be a net positive for America if NYC sinks.

Burn more fuel.
Yes Pete. Let the hate flooooow through you.

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‘Americans’

I guess you’re technically correct.

Kinda hard though to treat people who disdain the Constitution and Bill of Rights, embrace open borders and zero voting ID (gee wonder why! 😂), tell me taxes are a silly thought, and encourage the obliteration of American history as Americans.

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Peter Brown wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:58 pm ect.Kinda hard though to treat people who disdain the Constitution and Bill of Rights, embrace open borders and zero voting ID (gee wonder why! 😂), tell me taxes are a silly thought, and encourage the obliteration of American history as Americans.
You mean a fake strawman that doesn't exist outside of your FoxNation bubble?


-Every State allows voting without presenting an ID to a pollworker
-There's plenty in the Bill of Rights you and your team despise
-Our borders have been open for well over 100 years
-Taxes pay for things like that school you attended, but apparently didn't pay attention in classes
-And yes, those cwayzeee libs want to teach kids historically accurate things like lacrosse-playing Iroquois were here long before Columbus "found" them.

But sure. Go ahead and make up what you think your fellow Americans think about these subjects. Or better still, reach out to Putin. He'll happily tell you what to think.
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Petey wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:58 pm ‘Americans’

I guess you’re technically correct.

Kinda hard though to treat people who disdain the Constitution and Bill of Rights (especially Civil Rights), embrace open borders (like Reagan and Bush II) and zero absentee voting (gee wonder why! 😂), tell me tax havens as a privilege for the elites are a silly thought, and encourage the obliteration of American history as Americans.

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corrected for you ;)
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Japan just recorded its earliest cherry blossom bloom in 1,200 years. Scientists warn it's a symptom of the larger climate crisis

The solution is to chop down all cherry trees.
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ardilla secreta wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:17 pm Japan just recorded its earliest cherry blossom bloom in 1,200 years. Scientists warn it's a symptom of the larger climate crisis

The solution is to chop down all cherry trees.
OMG.. say it ain't so? The planet is definitely screwed now. The cherry blossoms have spoken... I think I can add this one on to the mile high stack of bullchit fear mongering we read everyday. The sky is falling. How many thousands of years do we have left? :roll:
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cradleandshoot wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:30 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:17 pm Japan just recorded its earliest cherry blossom bloom in 1,200 years. Scientists warn it's a symptom of the larger climate crisis

The solution is to chop down all cherry trees.
OMG.. say it ain't so? The planet is definitely screwed now. The cherry blossoms have spoken... I think I can add this one on to the mile high stack of bullchit fear mongering we read everyday. The sky is falling. How many thousands of years do we have left? :roll:


Cherry blossoms bring smiles to people’s faces.

Sounds like this global warming thing is a hit! Burn fuel, baby!
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/solar-ener ... 1618147228

This is quite the conundrum for the environmental fruit loops. Is genocide an acceptable price to pay for polysilicon. I guess the answer is yes. :roll:
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A small activist organization, Mothers for Nuclear (hard to argue with moms, I guess), argues that nuclear power is an indispensable tool in the quest for a decarbonized society.

https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-o ... lear-power

I urge the Fanlax libs to co-sign this movement.
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What the "Civilian Climate Corps" might look like
As its name implies, the new CCC would hark back to a similar program, the New Deal-era Civilian Conservation Corps. Starting at the peak of the Great Depression in 1933, the original CCC put up to 300,000 Americans (mostly young white men) to work planting billions of trees, digging flood-control channels and cutting hiking trails in public parks for the equivalent of more than $600 per month in today’s dollars.

The new corps described in Evergreen’s memo, shared first with HuffPost, takes a far more ambitious approach. The program would be five times bigger, employing about 1.5 million Americans without the age cap or racial and gender restrictions that limited the original CCC.

It would take on a much more expansive portfolio, including installing solar panels and wind turbines, maintaining public transit systems, and retrofitting homes and buildings to be more energy efficient. It would offer Medicare health coverage, child care stipends and partnerships with labor unions to provide pre-apprenticeship education to enlistees.
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dislaxxic wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:03 am What the "Civilian Climate Corps" might look like
As its name implies, the new CCC would hark back to a similar program, the New Deal-era Civilian Conservation Corps. Starting at the peak of the Great Depression in 1933, the original CCC put up to 300,000 Americans (mostly young white men) to work planting billions of trees, digging flood-control channels and cutting hiking trails in public parks for the equivalent of more than $600 per month in today’s dollars.

The new corps described in Evergreen’s memo, shared first with HuffPost, takes a far more ambitious approach. The program would be five times bigger, employing about 1.5 million Americans without the age cap or racial and gender restrictions that limited the original CCC.

It would take on a much more expansive portfolio, including installing solar panels and wind turbines, maintaining public transit systems, and retrofitting homes and buildings to be more energy efficient. It would offer Medicare health coverage, child care stipends and partnerships with labor unions to provide pre-apprenticeship education to enlistees.
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"It would take on a much more expansive portfolio, including installing solar panels and wind turbines, maintaining public transit systems, and retrofitting homes and buildings to be more energy efficient. It would offer Medicare health coverage, child care stipends and partnerships with labor unions to provide pre-apprenticeship education to enlistees."

You are the eternal optimist Dis. What do you think the chances are the Union thugs that lead the construction bidness will sign off on these pre-apprenticeship programs? Not unless Biden is going to make it worth their while $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. It would probably be prudent to throw a few more dollar signs into the mix here. What the hell, we are looking at trillions of dollars that are going to be flushed down the terlet so we can save the planet. Why quibble about a few measly billion here or there. :roll:
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ahh, the eternal pessimist...listen Uncle Cranky, IF it were true...that 1.5 million jobs would be created here...what would you commence to complain about THEN? Maybe that it was money flushed down a terlet, since the work being done wasn't going to "work" or be effective (since you don't believe the climate NEEDS or CAN be "fixed")?? Spending money DIRECTLY ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE...through wages and benefits...do you think that's the same as spending money on the military, on tax breaks for the ruling class, on WHAT exactly...?

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dislaxxic wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:41 pm ahh, the eternal pessimist...listen Uncle Cranky, IF it were true...that 1.5 million jobs would be created here...what would you commence to complain about THEN? Maybe that it was money flushed down a terlet, since the work being done wasn't going to "work" or be effective (since you don't believe the climate NEEDS or CAN be "fixed")?? Spending money DIRECTLY ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE...through wages and benefits...do you think that's the same as spending money on the military, on tax breaks for the ruling class, on WHAT exactly...?

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Ummm......because Amazon is ALREADY rolling out the driverless electric truck PR campaign.........of course, for now, humans will be "driving" the trucks. that Manchester NH robot company can't figure out the delivery robot quite yet.......but.....a few more tax payer "studies"....and away we go.

along with all these human jobs.

Yes, disslaxx.......THIS.....is the time.

the time in human history when the wealthy CARE....about their fellow humans.

Cause a guy who has drafted laws, for the past 40 years......for these very same people......sure....why not listen to the guy.

I mean, after all, Delaware isn't part of the Chesapeake Bay area...........Joe has worked SO hard to clean it up. But, being a US Senator for Hawaii, there was only so much Joe Biden could do, over the past 50 years......to clean up the Chessy Bay.


yeah.....I am the nutjob........ ;)
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dislaxxic wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:41 pm ahh, the eternal pessimist...listen Uncle Cranky, IF it were true...that 1.5 million jobs would be created here...what would you commence to complain about THEN? Maybe that it was money flushed down a terlet, since the work being done wasn't going to "work" or be effective (since you don't believe the climate NEEDS or CAN be "fixed")?? Spending money DIRECTLY ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE...through wages and benefits...do you think that's the same as spending money on the military, on tax breaks for the ruling class, on WHAT exactly...?

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Will those 1.5 million jobs be shovel ready there skippy? You are correct. We can't fix the planet. Your confusing that with what it means to be good stewards o nof the planet. When you can explain the mechanisms of how saving the planet work...I'm all eyes and ears. There is some real magic at work here. All we have to do is reduce co2 and the planet will gratefully begin fixing itself. That scenario only exists in the windmills of your mind. Did any of you environmental fruit loops notify planet earth what it needs to do to comply? :lol: maybe Biden can create an EO demanding planet earth co-operate? :roll: BTW skippy, any clarification as to how many trillions it will cost to allegedly save the planet? It sure won't come cheap and a lot of your fruit loop buddies will coincidentally make a lot of money in the futile effort.
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cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:11 am
dislaxxic wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:41 pm ahh, the eternal pessimist...listen Uncle Cranky, IF it were true...that 1.5 million jobs would be created here...what would you commence to complain about THEN? Maybe that it was money flushed down a terlet, since the work being done wasn't going to "work" or be effective (since you don't believe the climate NEEDS or CAN be "fixed")?? Spending money DIRECTLY ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE...through wages and benefits...do you think that's the same as spending money on the military, on tax breaks for the ruling class, on WHAT exactly...?

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Will those 1.5 million jobs be shovel ready there skippy? You are correct. We can't fix the planet. Your confusing that with what it means to be good stewards o nof the planet. When you can explain the mechanisms of how saving the planet work...I'm all eyes and ears. There is some real magic at work here. All we have to do is reduce co2 and the planet will gratefully begin fixing itself. That scenario only exists in the windmills of your mind. Did any of you environmental fruit loops notify planet earth what it needs to do to comply? :lol: maybe Biden can create an EO demanding planet earth co-operate? :roll: BTW skippy, any clarification as to how many trillions it will cost to allegedly save the planet? It sure won't come cheap and a lot of your fruit loop buddies will coincidentally make a lot of money in the futile effort.


The planet is fine. Libs always need a phony baloney excuse to raid your savings and hollow out American culture. Ignore them unless they get too much power; then vote them out en masse, like the blowout coming in 2022.
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I get it Cradle, you don't give a chit cause you'll be moulderin' under your garden long before all our great grandkids have to get off the planet like they did in "Wall-E"...that's fine, sit back and chortle away about it...nothing in my post said anything about "saving the planet", just, perhaps taking the edge off some so it won't be til our great-great-great-great grandkids have to shuffle off this Blue Marble.

Oh, and there are those potential 1.5 million worthy jobs for the Dem base...err...the middle and lower classes of ALL political stripes...the ones A Fan doesn't think JoeBiden wants to help...

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