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"Florida could ban voting drop boxes just months after an election where they proved immensely popular with voters amid the pandemic.

Sen. Dennis Baxley (R-Ocala), the chair of the Senate Ethics and Elections Committee, on Tuesday released a revamped elections proposal that would completely ban drop boxes for ballots. It will be considered by a Senate committee on Wednesday.

Baxley contended that he was pushing for the change due to concerns “due to a real security concern” and that boxes were being left unsupervised.
What a rat-forking liar, sleaze and moron Sen. Baxley is.

Drop boxes have ZERO security concerns if done with even a soupcon of common sense and good faith.

My county of 325k population maintains 18 permanent 24/7 drop boxes for voting. Some are slots that go inside a government building (public library, county office, senior or rec center). Pretty darned secure. Since you'd have to physically break into a government building to get at the ballots.

Others are outside of a govt building with 24/7 video surveillance. Mine is outside the police station. Also quite secure -- who is going to knock off a drop box outside the police precinct while being filmed?

80% of CO's 100% mail out ballots get returned via drop boxes. Our state's system is the USA gold standard for voting and voter registration. Thank god we don't elect ass wipes like Sen. Baxley out here. Well except for Rep. Boebert I guess...

P.S. If you make drop boxes readily available, then you can fairly cut off mail delivered votes at poll close on Election Day. Since folks can just drop box if they want to wait to vote until close to or on ED. Without drop boxes, then you have to get into all the stuff about ballots mailed/postmarked before ED, but delivered within X days after ED.
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Simple exercise... replace gun ownership with voting in this thread
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this is how many delusional righties see democracy:


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Shocker:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... -election/

"When incumbent Democrat José Javier Rodríguez lost his Florida state senate seat to Republican challenger Ileana Garcia by just 32 votes in November, the losing party and investigators began asking questions about a suspicious third candidate.

A man named Alexis “Alex” Rodriguez — who shared the incumbent’s last name — appeared on the ballot but never campaigned, never spoke publicly, and could not be reached by reporters after he took thousands of votes on Election Day.

Now, the mysterious candidate and a former Republican state senator are facing felony charges for crimes stemming from a plot to “confuse voters and siphon votes from the incumbent,” police said in an affidavit filed this week.

“It violates everything that should be honest and straightforward about our elections,” Miami-Dade State Attorney Katherine Fernandez Rundle (D) said on Thursday, noting that investigators are still probing the case as well as two other suspicious candidates in other state races. “Where it goes from here, we don’t know. We have not completed this investigation.”

The case is a rare instance when a criminal scheme may have changed an election outcome, helping the GOP flip a state senate seat. The investigation comes as Republicans in Florida have justified attempts to restrict mail-in voting, which would hamper Democrats, by suggesting tighter rules will make elections more secure — even though there is scant evidence of voter fraud in mail-in ballots.

The scheme allegedly began on May 15, 2020, as a tight race for the 37th district’s state senate seat was shaping up between the incumbent Rodriguez and Garcia, the founder of Latinas for Trump who helped campaign for then-President Donald Trump. (Rundle said Garcia is not implicated in the case.)

Early that morning, former Florida state senator Frank Artiles (R) contacted Alex Rodriguez and asked for help with a “political matter,” the third-party candidate later told police.

The two men met at Artiles’s home in Palmetto Bay, Fla., that same day to discuss a deal in which Alex Rodriguez would run against the incumbent with the same last name in hopes that confused voters would accidentally choose the wrong candidate, according to the affidavit. In exchange, Artiles allegedly offered to pay him $50,000.

The alleged plan appeared to work. On Election Day, Alex Rodriguez won more than 6,000 votes without a campaign or name recognition, and many attributed the results to voter mix-ups between the two candidates with the same last name.

Artiles, 47, and Alex Rodriguez, 55, were arrested and charged on Thursday with three felonies for exceeding campaign contribution limits and providing false information to election officials.

Artiles, a Republican political operative, already had a reputation mired in controversy. He resigned from the state senate in 2017 following intense backlash after he berated two Black lawmakers in a Tallahassee bar in a rant peppered with obscenities and a racist slur, the Miami Herald reported. His political career was further marred after the Herald reported he had hired a Hooters “calendar girl” and a Playboy model to work for his political action committee, Veterans for Conservative Principles.

Alex Rodriguez, an auto-parts dealer who had known Artiles for more than 20 years, was experiencing “dire financial difficulties” when the political operative called him last May, according to police. When Artiles offered him an easy $50,000, he agreed to hear him out, police said.

“Artiles explained that the strategy was simple,” the affidavit said.

Artiles allegedly asked him to change his political party registration from Republican to unaffiliated. He prepared the paperwork and told Alex Rodriguez how to file for the 37th district senate seat, police said. Artiles allegedly instructed the sham candidate, who did not live in the Miami-area district, to use the address of a property in Palmetto Bay that Alex Rodriguez still owned, but no longer resided at, according to the affidavit. The former state senator also allegedly told him to periodically check his phone in case election officials tried to contact him.

Alex Rodriguez didn’t need to do anything else, because his mere presence on the ballot would confuse voters and give Garcia an edge in the race, according to police.

According to the affidavit, he agreed to participate in the plot out of financial desperation. His lawyer says Artiles took advantage of him.

“Frank Artiles and his co-conspirators knew they couldn’t beat José Javier Rodríguez in a fair election so they rigged it,” William Barzee, a lawyer for Alex Rodriguez, told the Herald on Thursday. “Artiles cynically targeted and used a vulnerable ‘friend’ with a great name to run in the race in order to confuse voters and steal the election.”
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Repukeblican quest to suppress votes:


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The party of "principle", "moral values", and all that is good or wholesome. :lol:
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as we used to say in Brooklyn, if you can't beat 'em, kill 'em
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Repukies prefer the bullet to the ballot:


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To them, it's the American way.
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First new election reform, and shocker of all shockers, you can still vote absentee ballot without presenting your State ID in Georgia.

So the elections are still "not secure" according to the fake claims that we have an election security problem.

https://www.ajc.com/politics/georgia-mo ... G3CLMIHIY/
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I’m game only I will have to research and see if I buy any of their “food” products. I doubt it, but ain’t M&A madness great!
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PizzaSnake wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:25 pm
I’m game only I will have to research and see if I buy and of their “food” products. I doubt it, but ain’t M&A madness great!
:lol:

AME Church is currently only calling for a local Atlanta boycott, but I suspect others are considering going national with it downstream if necessary. There will likely be other targets like Home Depot, Delta Airlines, Arby's and others if this goes national. These are early days for the current voting rights battle.
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jhu72 wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:00 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:25 pm
I’m game only I will have to research and see if I buy and of their “food” products. I doubt it, but ain’t M&A madness great!
:lol:

AME Church is currently only calling for a local Atlanta boycott, but I suspect others are considering going national with it downstream if necessary. There will likely be other targets like Home Depot, Delta Airlines, Arby's and others if this goes national. These are early days for the current voting rights battle.



The NBA players called for much social action last summer in view of the police crimes inflicted in Minneapolis by the stupid cops. I'm surprised they haven't called for League boycotts against that city because the state pols want to make it difficult for people to vote.
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jhu72 wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:00 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:25 pm
I’m game only I will have to research and see if I buy and of their “food” products. I doubt it, but ain’t M&A madness great!
:lol:

AME Church is currently only calling for a local Atlanta boycott, but I suspect others are considering going national with it downstream if necessary. There will likely be other targets like Home Depot, Delta Airlines, Arby's and others if this goes national. These are early days for the current voting rights battle.
HD is going to hurt. How’s Lowe’s record?
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Brooklyn wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:04 pm
jhu72 wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:00 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:25 pm
I’m game only I will have to research and see if I buy and of their “food” products. I doubt it, but ain’t M&A madness great!
:lol:

AME Church is currently only calling for a local Atlanta boycott, but I suspect others are considering going national with it downstream if necessary. There will likely be other targets like Home Depot, Delta Airlines, Arby's and others if this goes national. These are early days for the current voting rights battle.



The NBA players called for much social action last summer in view of the police crimes inflicted in Minneapolis by the stupid cops. I'm surprised they haven't called for League boycotts against that city because the state pols want to make it difficult for people to vote.

This is just the beginning. Money talks and Fascists cower in corners. Ask Kristi Noem.

Marc Elias has filed the first lawsuit over this law tonight. He beat back all Trump's bullsh*t lawsuits at years end.
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PizzaSnake wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:08 pm
jhu72 wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:00 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:25 pm
I’m game only I will have to research and see if I buy and of their “food” products. I doubt it, but ain’t M&A madness great!
:lol:

AME Church is currently only calling for a local Atlanta boycott, but I suspect others are considering going national with it downstream if necessary. There will likely be other targets like Home Depot, Delta Airlines, Arby's and others if this goes national. These are early days for the current voting rights battle.
HD is going to hurt. How’s Lowe’s record?
Lowes is not a Georgia Corporation. AME is going after Georgia Corporations or companies with large operations or foreign corps with North American Headquarters like Mercedes, Porsche, Peugot - the guys who control expansion in the US, that are based in Georgia. I really suspect Georgia pols once they understand are not going to want to fight over this. The citizens of Georgia are polling against this bill 70-30. This really isn't a democrat - republican issue. Its politicians vs the people issue.

Noem folded up her tent and went home when the NCAA explained the economic impact to her.
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Be curious to see the charging sheet on this one.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... HNZIG74OTU
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PizzaSnake wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:19 pm Be curious to see the charging sheet on this one.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... HNZIG74OTU
Just a disgrace. Supporting Republicans is literally anti-American.
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PizzaSnake wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:25 pm
I’m game only I will have to research and see if I buy any of their “food” products. I doubt it, but ain’t M&A madness great!
I worked for Coca Cola. You would be hard pressed to find a more politically correct company on the planet. It could be that overblown persona of political correctness was just a sham all along. :D Damn you Coca Cola... damn you all to hell. 8-)
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PizzaSnake wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:19 pm Be curious to see the charging sheet on this one.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... HNZIG74OTU
Is covid, and social distancing NOT a thing any longer?

6 feet apart , is 6 feet apart. How close you gonna get to the signature?

at least she has a mask on......

Yes.....lump ALL R's under your arrogant, generalization gaze upon your fellow humans.
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Ice cream doesn't have bones.

An elected lawmaker can't get into a place where a state law that directly effects her constituents is being signed and gets ARRESTED for it??

What in the WORLD is arrogant about lumping THIS kind of activity into a big ol' ball of dumassery?

If you're too much of a snow-flake to listen to complaints about fascistic behavior, well, this may not be the forum for you to hang in.

[Cue the dissertation calling out why slurring ice cream for not having bones is arrogant and mean...]

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