White Nationalist Terrorism

[youthathletics]

Can you help me understand why there is all this talk and publicity that this was a hate crime towards Asians? THe article I saw, from the arrested 21 y/o, said it had nothing to do race/ethnicity.

Because he killed nothing but Asian women. Simple. Why not white women? Or black? Or multiple ethnicities? It's not like this is some huge leap in logic, or something.

And is what the perp tells the police all that matters?

The police, DA, and Fed. officials will sort it all out, I'm sure.

You just said its not a huge leap in logic. Strangely, you went all binary, again, and deem this a hate crime of ethnicity, so soon? You working for CNN now, and determining fault before facts.

Evidentially, he liked Asians, so much so, that he has been there before for their services, according the stories.

[MDlaxfan76]

These places should get the same media scrutiny that Bob Kraft's favorite spot received. ...fat chance.

Why? In what world does Bob Kraft have anything to do with this story?

Why in heaven's name should the media investigate the businesses where the victims were murdered? To see if they can find excuses for what the shooter did?

You lost me.

To determine why these businesses were targeted. Was it because they were Asian-American businesses or because they were the local massage parlors with which this nut was familiar.

Was this an ethnically based hate crime against Asian-Americans, as is being depicted, or was it murder, in which the victims were targeted because they participated in the illicit sex trade & possibly human trafficking ?

This is the moronic post that started it all. There’s no evidence the scumbag gave one thought to human trafficking, and as I pointed out which you ignored like a doughnut with a gaping hole in the middle, the guy immediately acknowledged participating in illegal activity. Suggesting he’s some hero shooting up these places because they behave illegally and he’s some hero taking out the trash is a sign of mental deficiency.

Murder, which wouldn’t be the definition if he was saving a life in danger, is not only because they’re involved in sex trafficking. Makes no sense this is just moronic to tie the shooting to some defense of trafficked women. Just plain stupid. Every post in response or engagement started with this. Such biomass.

FFG - I am bit late to the party, been pulling away from this place a bit. Can you help me understand why there is all this talk and publicity that this was a hate crime towards Asians? THe article I saw, from the arrested 21 y/o, said it had nothing to do race/ethnicity.

Long told police that Tuesday’s attack was not racially motivated.

The article you linked actually has the elements you're looking for.

The mass murderer claims he was not motivated to kill because of their race, but rather because he was motivated by his 'sex addiction'...apparently associating that addiction to massage parlors advertising mostly asian women staff...7 of 8 victims were women, 6 were asian women staff, one was hispanic woman customer there with her husband. Definitely targeting the women masseuses.

Does he associate sex addiction with Asian women or just women? Either way, hate crime.

[DMac]

Whatever the case, the media will do its damnedest to convince us all we have a real Asian haters problem here in the USofA. Already driving it home now. They'll be coming out by the boatloads to tell us all about the injustice and hardships they've all experienced.
https://blogs.voanews.com/all-about-ame ... n-america/

[Farfromgeneva]

These places should get the same media scrutiny that Bob Kraft's favorite spot received. ...fat chance.

Why? In what world does Bob Kraft have anything to do with this story?

Why in heaven's name should the media investigate the businesses where the victims were murdered? To see if they can find excuses for what the shooter did?

You lost me.

To determine why these businesses were targeted. Was it because they were Asian-American businesses or because they were the local massage parlors with which this nut was familiar.

Was this an ethnically based hate crime against Asian-Americans, as is being depicted, or was it murder, in which the victims were targeted because they participated in the illicit sex trade & possibly human trafficking ?

This is the moronic post that started it all. There’s no evidence the scumbag gave one thought to human trafficking, and as I pointed out which you ignored like a doughnut with a gaping hole in the middle, the guy immediately acknowledged participating in illegal activity. Suggesting he’s some hero shooting up these places because they behave illegally and he’s some hero taking out the trash is a sign of mental deficiency.

Murder, which wouldn’t be the definition if he was saving a life in danger, is not only because they’re involved in sex trafficking. Makes no sense this is just moronic to tie the shooting to some defense of trafficked women. Just plain stupid. Every post in response or engagement started with this. Such biomass.

FFG - I am bit late to the party, been pulling away from this place a bit. Can you help me understand why there is all this talk and publicity that this was a hate crime towards Asians? THe article I saw, from the arrested 21 y/o, said it had nothing to do race/ethnicity.

Long told police that Tuesday’s attack was not racially motivated.

Obviously it’s the liberal main stream media trying to portray all white males as fear mongering, invalid racist murderers.

I don’t know and don’t care but find it offensive to try to tie some POS murdering a bunch of people to any notion of heroism or any shred of positive benefit for communities even if we found there was human trafficking at these places which we haven’t seen one shred of evidence on.

“ or was it murder, in which the victims were targeted because they participated in the illicit sex trade & possibly human trafficking ?“. This quote is stupid, a pathetic attempt at victim shaming and just dirty. If poorly constructed then clarify but it’s quite clear what is happening in this post.

[Farfromgeneva]

OJ told police he was not guilty

[Farfromgeneva]

OJ told police he was not guilty

OJ isn’t guilty! I mean he once said “I’m not black, I’m OJ”. Case closed.

And Tupac is alive!

[youthathletics]

Whatever the case, the media will do its damnedest to convince us all we have a real Asian haters problem here in the USofA. Already driving it home now. They'll be coming out by the boatloads to tell us all about the injustice and hardships they've all experienced.
https://blogs.voanews.com/all-about-ame ... n-america/

Crazy, isn't it. What is up, is now down. So the shooter tells us why he did this, then these two gov't officials spin it....
....
Long told police that Tuesday’s attack was not racially motivated. He claimed to have a “sex addiction,” and authorities said he apparently lashed out at what he saw as sources of temptation.

The shootings appear to be at the “intersection of gender-based violence, misogyny and xenophobia,” said state Rep. Bee Nguyen, the first Vietnamese American to serve in the Georgia House and a frequent advocate for women and communities of color.

Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms said that regardless of the shooter’s motivation, “it is unacceptable, it is hateful and it has to stop.”
....
So the police get a confession, but the state Rep. says, no, it is not, it is what I says it is, then the mayor says this is bad behavior. Clearly they are more concerned with being heard and pushing agenda, rather than following the current police evidence at hand.

[Typical Lax Dad]

OJ told police he was not guilty

OJ isn’t guilty! I mean he once said “I’m not black, I’m OJ”. Case closed.

And Tupac is alive!

I just told a friend that OJ said that.... my cousins tricked stupid as OJ into buying them drinks on Laguna Beach.

[Farfromgeneva]

I would do the same. "Yo Orenthal, you innocent my man. They railed you!...Oh shoot I forgot my wallet, mind picking up my drinks mr innocent?"

[a fan]

You just said its not a huge leap in logic.

That's because it isn't. 6 murdered Asian-American women is separate locations. Not a huge leap in logic to think that it might be a hate crime.

Strangely, you went all binary, again, and deem this a hate crime of ethnicity, so soon?

No, I didn't. I said that it wasn't a leap in logic....which it isn't.

I followed that, as you know, with "i'm sure the police et. al. will sort it all out." Which they will, of course.

[Typical Lax Dad]

I would do the same. "Yo Orenthal, you innocent my man. They railed you!...Oh shoot I forgot my wallet, mind picking up my drinks mr innocent?"

It was before he killed those people. They were all younger. Hot girls. My cousin was an agent so he could talk enough BS to make OJ believe they knew each other. OJ had too big of an ego to say “I don’t know you”....

[old salt]

Can you help me understand why there is all this talk and publicity that this was a hate crime towards Asians? THe article I saw, from the arrested 21 y/o, said it had nothing to do race/ethnicity.

Because he killed nothing but Asian women. Simple. Why not white women? Or black? Or multiple ethnicities? It's not like this is some huge leap in logic, or something.

And is what the perp tells the police all that matters?

The police, DA, and Fed. officials will sort it all out, I'm sure.

Maybe because they don't have ethnic quotas in the Atlanta sex trade, specifically in massage parlors.
Because that's who worked in the message parlors he had visited. Read the AJC article I posted.
He didn't shoot the working girls. He shot the older management, a handyman who worked there frequently & 2 customers caught in the crossfire.
He said he was targeting those who had fed his addiction.

[old salt]

These places should get the same media scrutiny that Bob Kraft's favorite spot received. ...fat chance.

Why? In what world does Bob Kraft have anything to do with this story?

Why in heaven's name should the media investigate the businesses where the victims were murdered? To see if they can find excuses for what the shooter did?

You lost me.

To determine why these businesses were targeted. Was it because they were Asian-American businesses or because they were the local massage parlors with which this nut was familiar.

Was this an ethnically based hate crime against Asian-Americans, as is being depicted, or was it murder, in which the victims were targeted because they participated in the illicit sex trade & possibly human trafficking ?

This is the moronic post that started it all. There’s no evidence the scumbag gave one thought to human trafficking, and as I pointed out which you ignored like a doughnut with a gaping hole in the middle, the guy immediately acknowledged participating in illegal activity. Suggesting he’s some hero shooting up these places because they behave illegally and he’s some hero taking out the trash is a sign of mental deficiency.

Murder, which wouldn’t be the definition if he was saving a life in danger, is not only because they’re involved in sex trafficking. Makes no sense this is just moronic to tie the shooting to some defense of trafficked women. Just plain stupid. Every post in response or engagement started with this. Such biomass.

He said he was targeting those who fed his sex addiction. He had talked about it to his rehab roommate. He reportedly was a customer at 2 of the 3 places he shot up. He shot management, support staff & 2 random customers, not the working girls.

You're the only one saying it's not murder. I'm saying it has not been clearly established that it was a hate crime directed at Asian Americans because of their ethnicity. The Pres, VP & their media lackeys immediately defaulted to the race hatred script before the bodies were cold, despite the FBI director & Atlanta police saying it had not been yet been established that it was a race based hate crime. Never let a crisis go to waste.

[old salt]

“ or was it murder, in which the victims were targeted because they participated in the illicit sex trade & possibly human trafficking ?“. This quote is stupid, a pathetic attempt at victim shaming and just dirty. If poorly constructed then clarify but it’s quite clear what is happening in this post.

Victim shaming ? Give the sanctimony a break. The sex trade is inherently risky, as is drug dealing, robbery, mugging, or other criminal activity.

It's a logical question based on the facts reported.

You may have a soft spot for good hearted hookers working to support their families. I regard human trafficking victims, lured here under false pretenses then exploited, as the true victims. I don't regard that as a victimless crime. I have little sympathy for those who profit from it & support it.

Read up on the women he shot. Other than one customer, It appears most were management or support staff.

[Laxxal22]

I don't see why the sex addiction and the racial motivation have to be exclusive of each other. Check his browser history. If it's mostly Asian porn than a combo of the two seems most likely. Just wish he turned the gun on himself instead of other people.

Asian communities have been complaining about an uptick in violence pretty consistently over the past year; mostly young black guys/gals smashing elderly people in the face in urban communities if we're going to be completely honest. Obviously multiple homicide is a much bigger story, but it's a bit disingenuous that as the media rightfully starts reporting on the increased violence they're not really talking about who has done most of it over the past year.

[a fan]

Maybe because they don't have ethnic quotas in the Atlanta sex trade, specifically in massage parlors.
Because that's who worked in the message parlors he had visited. Read the AJC article I posted.
He didn't shoot the working girls. He shot the older management, a handyman who worked there frequently & 2 customers caught in the crossfire.
He said he was targeting those who had fed his addiction.

Great.

Why are you guys so upset over this? It's not like the guy won't get a fair trial. So what's the problem? I'm confident that the Fed Prosecutors will handle this just fine.....whether it's a hate crime, or not.

The media, as they always do, speculate...and their opinions will change as information evolves.

And partisans will, as always, see what they want to see...and ignore what they don't want to see.


I find it strange how upset so many have gotten over the idea that the shooter might be charged incorrectly. Since when did these people give a *hit about the rights of someone who killed six people who did him no harm?

[PizzaSnake]

“ or was it murder, in which the victims were targeted because they participated in the illicit sex trade & possibly human trafficking ?“. This quote is stupid, a pathetic attempt at victim shaming and just dirty. If poorly constructed then clarify but it’s quite clear what is happening in this post.

Victim shaming ? Give the sanctimony a break. The sex trade is inherently risky, as is drug dealing, robbery, mugging, or other criminal activity.

It's a logical question based on the facts reported.

You may have a soft spot for good hearted hookers working to support their families. I regard human trafficking victims, lured here under false pretenses then exploited, as the true victims. I don't regard that as a victimless crime. I have little sympathy for those who profit from it & support it.

Read up on the women he shot. Other than one customer, It appears most were management or support staff.

You cracked the case!! He loved them to death.
/s

No, he “hated” them because his obsession was taking him from Jeebus. In his twisted world, they had to die to
extirpate his “sins” of the flesh.

Don’t over complicate this.

He’s a complete POS and deserves no compassion or tortured “understanding”.

[old salt]

Maybe because they don't have ethnic quotas in the Atlanta sex trade, specifically in massage parlors.
Because that's who worked in the message parlors he had visited. Read the AJC article I posted.
He didn't shoot the working girls. He shot the older management, a handyman who worked there frequently & 2 customers caught in the crossfire.
He said he was targeting those who had fed his addiction.

Great.

Why are you guys so upset over this? It's not like the guy won't get a fair trial. So what's the problem? I'm confident that the Fed Prosecutors will handle this just fine.....whether it's a hate crime, or not.

The media, as they always do, speculate...and their opinions will change as information evolves.

And partisans will, as always, see what they want to see...and ignore what they don't want to see.


I find it strange how upset so many have gotten over the idea that the shooter might be charged incorrectly. Since when did these people give a *hit about the rights of someone who killed six people who did him no harm?

What we are upset about is the way Biden, Harris, Dem's in Congress & the media are trying to exploit this, blaming it on Trump's labeling of the China virus, rather that what it really is.

obtw, it's another consequence of our broken immigration system that is being subverted.

[old salt]

“ or was it murder, in which the victims were targeted because they participated in the illicit sex trade & possibly human trafficking ?“. This quote is stupid, a pathetic attempt at victim shaming and just dirty. If poorly constructed then clarify but it’s quite clear what is happening in this post.

Victim shaming ? Give the sanctimony a break. The sex trade is inherently risky, as is drug dealing, robbery, mugging, or other criminal activity.

It's a logical question based on the facts reported.

You may have a soft spot for good hearted hookers working to support their families. I regard human trafficking victims, lured here under false pretenses then exploited, as the true victims. I don't regard that as a victimless crime. I have little sympathy for those who profit from it & support it.

Read up on the women he shot. Other than one customer, It appears most were management or support staff.

You cracked the case!! He loved them to death.
/s

No, he “hated” them because his obsession was taking him from Jeebus. In his twisted world, they had to die to
extirpate his “sins” of the flesh.

Don’t over complicate this.

He’s a complete POS and deserves no compassion or tortured “understanding”.

You're over-complicating this.

He did it because Trump told him to -- by saying China virus & king flu.

[a fan]

What we are upset about is the way Biden, Harris, Dem's in Congress & the media are trying to exploit this, blaming it on Trump's labeling of the China virus, rather that what it really is.

You mean like the way you, Trump, Hannity, and the R's in Congress tried to exploit BLM, and blamed any piece of violence in just about any city over the summer to BLM? Like that?

Yep. You're right. As I said, that's what partisans do. Are you telling me that you're going to stop doing that? Because it would be swell if you did.

obtw, it's another consequence of our broken immigration system that is being subverted.

Sure is. Maybe next time your have a R POTUS you and your fellow Republican voters & media will have learned your lesson, and will demand that their Republican leaders fix the problem instead of just "blaming the libs", and walking away from the problem for the 30th year in a row.....

Or not.