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Nassaufan wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:50 pm
HopFan16 wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:40 pm I don't think it makes sense to rank UMass at this point. We're well into March and they haven't played. If they win when they return throw them back in the top 20 but for now I'd keep it to teams that have at least started their seasons.

Richmond has not looked good this year. I'd throw a team like Delaware in there instead.
Agree 100% on UMass. I'm sorry they haven't been able to play yet, but we're three/four weeks into the season. If you're going to rank teams that haven't played yet, why not include the Ivies?

As for Delaware, the Hens are going to surprise and maybe even shock some teams if they advance to the NCAAT. They are well-balanced and loaded at attack. That said, I'm not conceding the CAA to Delaware. The Hens will first have to get past the Gorillas. :)
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DU-fan wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:36 pm I would expect these rankings on Monday:

Rank Team
1 Duke (6 - 0)
2 North Carolina (6 - 0)
3 Maryland (3 - 0)
4 Georgetown (4 - 0)
5 Rutgers (3 - 0)
6 Syracuse (2 - 1)
7 Army (3 - 1)
8 Notre Dame (2 - 0)
9 Virginia (5 - 1)
10 Denver (5 - 2)
11 Lehigh (2 - 0)
12 Penn State (1 - 2)
13 Loyola (2 - 2)
14 UMass (0 - 0)
15 Navy (2 - 0)
16 UAlbany (2 - 0)
17 Ohio State (1 - 2)
18 High Point (1 - 3)
19 Richmond (1 - 2)
20 Hofstra (3 - 1)
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/league/DI/polls

Same 20 teams with a few differences in order. Rutgers moved in front of Georgetown. Virginia in front of Notre Dame. Umass still ranked at 16. Navy at 17. Hofstra up to 18.
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There really is a dearth of good D1 teams this year if Richmond at 1-3 is still in the top 20. Their only win this year is a one-goal victory at home over the 2-4 Towson Tigers, who might not even be a top 30 team.

I really like Richmond's defense, but the offense is predictable and extremely boring to watch. I've seen all of their games and nearly every one of them put me to sleep. They average 8 goals a game and most of these goals come on broken plays or rebounds. Lanchbury is the only threat they have on offense.

They have a bunch of softies coming up, so I would expect the voters to keep them in the top 20 after victories over VMI and Bellarmine.

Of course none of this matters. If they don't win the SoCon, they have no shot at an at-large bid.

I could be wrong, but they will have to improve dramatically on offense if they expect to get past High Point this year.
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https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/college/m ... ens-top-20

North Carolina visits Virginia on Thursday in the first of two regular-season meetings. Then comes the opening round of home-and-homes in the Big East (Georgetown at Denver) and the Big Ten (Rutgers at Maryland) on Saturday. Both will give an outright conference lead to the winner as the midpoint of league play approaches.

So, while things seem pretty familiar near the top of the Nike/US Lacrosse Division I Top 20 this week, expect a new look next Monday

NIKE/US LACROSSE
DIVISION I MEN’S TOP 20

MARCH 8, 2021
W/L PREV NEXT
1 Duke 6-0 1 3/10 vs. High Point
2 Maryland 3-0 2 3/13 vs No. 5 Rutgers
3 North Carolina 6-0 3 3/11 at No. 6 Virginia
4 Georgetown 4-0 4 3/13 at No. 9 Denver
5 Rutgers 3-0 5 3/13 at No. 2 Maryland
6 Virginia 5-1 6 3/11 vs. No. 3 North Carolina
7 Army 3-1 7 3/13 vs. Colgate
8 Syracuse 2-1 8 3/12 vs. Stony Brook
9 Denver 5-2 9 3/13 vs. No. 4 Georgetown
10 Notre Dame 2-0 10 3/17 vs. Marquette
11 Lehigh 2-0 14 3/14 at Bucknell
12 Penn State 1-2 15 3/13 at No. 20 Johns Hopkins
13 UMass 0-0 13 3/14 vs. Fairfield
14 Loyola 2-2 11 3/13 vs. Lafayette
15 Ohio State 1-2 12 3/14 vs. Michigan
16 Albany 2-0 18 3/13 vs. Vermont
17 Navy 2-0 17 3/20 at Lafayette
18 Hofstra 3-1 20 3/13 at Towson
19 Richmond 1-3 16 3/13 at VMI
20 Johns Hopkins 1-2 19 3/13 vs. No. 12 Penn State

ALSO CONSIDERED (ALPHABETICAL ORDER): BOSTON UNIVERSITY (2-1), BRYANT (3-1), BUCKNELL (1-0), DELAWARE (4-1), HIGH POINT (1-3), STONY BROOK (2-2), UMBC (2-0), VILLANOVA (2-1)
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D1 MEN: D1 Men’s Rankings based on Quality Wins (and Losses)… including each team’s Number of Games Played and Win Percentage.

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A little early, but Power Rankings are at: https://laxbytes.com/OUTPUT/SERVER/men/rating01.php
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44WeWantMore wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:53 am A little early, but Power Rankings are at: https://laxbytes.com/OUTPUT/SERVER/men/rating01.php
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Dip&Dunk wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:21 am
44WeWantMore wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:53 am A little early, but Power Rankings are at: https://laxbytes.com/OUTPUT/SERVER/men/rating01.php
VMI rated 28th. I will copy, frame and cherish this forever!
Send Larry a few bills,
maybe he’ll tweak the numbers for you 👍
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10stone5 wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:43 am
Dip&Dunk wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:21 am
44WeWantMore wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:53 am A little early, but Power Rankings are at: https://laxbytes.com/OUTPUT/SERVER/men/rating01.php
VMI rated 28th. I will copy, frame and cherish this forever!
Send Larry a few bills,
maybe he’ll tweak the numbers for you 👍
St. Bonaventure is having a great week too. First win in program history and now ranked 13th! :)
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I really question first Richmond at 1-3 with a one goal win over a 2-4 Towson. Hopkins at 1-2? if Rutgers or Michigan had exact same record over exact same opponents they wouldn't even be receiving votes. Finally UMass at 0-0 number 13 really?



MARCH 8, 2021
W/L PREV NEXT
1 Duke 6-0 1 3/10 vs. High Point
2 Maryland 3-0 2 3/13 vs No. 5 Rutgers
3 North Carolina 6-0 3 3/11 at No. 6 Virginia
4 Georgetown 4-0 4 3/13 at No. 9 Denver
5 Rutgers 3-0 5 3/13 at No. 2 Maryland
6 Virginia 5-1 6 3/11 vs. No. 3 North Carolina
7 Army 3-1 7 3/13 vs. Colgate
8 Syracuse 2-1 8 3/12 vs. Stony Brook
9 Denver 5-2 9 3/13 vs. No. 4 Georgetown
10 Notre Dame 2-0 10 3/17 vs. Marquette
11 Lehigh 2-0 14 3/14 at Bucknell
12 Penn State 1-2 15 3/13 at No. 20 Johns Hopkins
13 UMass 0-0 13 3/14 vs. Fairfield
14 Loyola 2-2 11 3/13 vs. Lafayette
15 Ohio State 1-2 12 3/14 vs. Michigan
16 Albany 2-0 18 3/13 vs. Vermont
17 Navy 2-0 17 3/20 at Lafayette
18 Hofstra 3-1 20 3/13 at Towson
19 Richmond 1-3 16 3/13 at VMI
20 Johns Hopkins 1-2 19 3/13 vs. No. 12 Penn State
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xxxxxxx wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:28 pm I really question first Richmond at 1-3 with a one goal win over a 2-4 Towson. Hopkins at 1-2? if Rutgers or Michigan had exact same record over exact same opponents they wouldn't even be receiving votes. Finally UMass at 0-0 number 13 really?



MARCH 8, 2021
W/L PREV NEXT
1 Duke 6-0 1 3/10 vs. High Point
2 Maryland 3-0 2 3/13 vs No. 5 Rutgers
3 North Carolina 6-0 3 3/11 at No. 6 Virginia
4 Georgetown 4-0 4 3/13 at No. 9 Denver
5 Rutgers 3-0 5 3/13 at No. 2 Maryland
6 Virginia 5-1 6 3/11 vs. No. 3 North Carolina
7 Army 3-1 7 3/13 vs. Colgate
8 Syracuse 2-1 8 3/12 vs. Stony Brook
9 Denver 5-2 9 3/13 vs. No. 4 Georgetown
10 Notre Dame 2-0 10 3/17 vs. Marquette
11 Lehigh 2-0 14 3/14 at Bucknell
12 Penn State 1-2 15 3/13 at No. 20 Johns Hopkins
13 UMass 0-0 13 3/14 vs. Fairfield
14 Loyola 2-2 11 3/13 vs. Lafayette
15 Ohio State 1-2 12 3/14 vs. Michigan
16 Albany 2-0 18 3/13 vs. Vermont
17 Navy 2-0 17 3/20 at Lafayette
18 Hofstra 3-1 20 3/13 at Towson
19 Richmond 1-3 16 3/13 at VMI
20 Johns Hopkins 1-2 19 3/13 vs. No. 12 Penn State
These rankings really mean nothing this early in the season, but I would like to propose that the loser of the JHU v Penn State game be banished from the top 20 rankings for the remainder of the year unless they beat Maryland...which isn't going to happen.
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Henpecked wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:36 pm
xxxxxxx wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:28 pm I really question first Richmond at 1-3 with a one goal win over a 2-4 Towson. Hopkins at 1-2? if Rutgers or Michigan had exact same record over exact same opponents they wouldn't even be receiving votes. Finally UMass at 0-0 number 13 really?



MARCH 8, 2021
W/L PREV NEXT
1 Duke 6-0 1 3/10 vs. High Point
2 Maryland 3-0 2 3/13 vs No. 5 Rutgers
3 North Carolina 6-0 3 3/11 at No. 6 Virginia
4 Georgetown 4-0 4 3/13 at No. 9 Denver
5 Rutgers 3-0 5 3/13 at No. 2 Maryland
6 Virginia 5-1 6 3/11 vs. No. 3 North Carolina
7 Army 3-1 7 3/13 vs. Colgate
8 Syracuse 2-1 8 3/12 vs. Stony Brook
9 Denver 5-2 9 3/13 vs. No. 4 Georgetown
10 Notre Dame 2-0 10 3/17 vs. Marquette
11 Lehigh 2-0 14 3/14 at Bucknell
12 Penn State 1-2 15 3/13 at No. 20 Johns Hopkins
13 UMass 0-0 13 3/14 vs. Fairfield
14 Loyola 2-2 11 3/13 vs. Lafayette
15 Ohio State 1-2 12 3/14 vs. Michigan
16 Albany 2-0 18 3/13 vs. Vermont
17 Navy 2-0 17 3/20 at Lafayette
18 Hofstra 3-1 20 3/13 at Towson
19 Richmond 1-3 16 3/13 at VMI
20 Johns Hopkins 1-2 19 3/13 vs. No. 12 Penn State
These rankings really mean nothing this early in the season, but I would like to propose that the loser of the JHU v Penn State game be banished from the top 20 rankings for the remainder of the year unless they beat Maryland...which isn't going to happen.
If JHU losses, which seems very likely, it will be almost impossible to get back in the top 20. They will need to start wining in the B1G. Beating Michigan is not enough...

I think Delaware will be there next week. Too bad they don't play Umass until April 30.
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D1 MEN: Fairfield Beat Lafayette. Why You Should Care?

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Matnum PI wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:53 am D1 MEN: Fairfield Beat Lafayette. Why You Should Care?

https://fanlax.com/2021/03/11/d1-men-fa ... ould-care/
Thanks for posting. I read the article and I am still unsure as to "Why I Should Care!" :D
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I think we will see significant changes in the 12-20 rankings. Below is what I expect we will see on Monday:

Rank Team Past Week
1 Duke (7 - 0) Beat HPU & Jacksonville
2 North Carolina (7 - 0) Beat UVA
3 Maryland (4 - 0) Beat Rutgers
4 Georgetown (4 - 0) Did not play
5 Syracuse (3 - 1) Beat Stony Brook
6 Army (3 - 1) Did not play
7 Notre Dame (2 - 0) Did not play
8 Rutgers (3 - 1) Lost to UMD
9 Virginia (5 - 2) Lost to UNC
10 Denver (5 - 2) Did not play
11 Lehigh (3 - 0) Beat Bucknell
12 Loyola (3 - 2) Beat Lafayette
13 Ohio State (2 - 2) Beat Michigan
14 Navy (2 - 0) Did not play
15 Vermont (2-2) Beat Albany
16 Delaware (5-1) Beat Drexel
17 Johns Hopkins (2-2) Beat PSU
18 UMass (1 - 0) Beat Fairfield
19 UAlbany (2 - 1) Lost to Vermont
20 Villanova (3-1) Beat St. Johns
21 Penn State (1 - 3) Lost to JHU
22 Hofstra (3 - 1) Did not play
23 Bryant (3-1) Beat Merrimack
24 Richmond (1 - 3) Beat VMI
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Duke is #1 because they were #1 preseason and you can't replace #1 until they're beaten. :roll: Whatever...

Based on Ws and Ls in 2021 and the quality of those Ws and Ls in 2021, UNC is #1, UMD is #2.
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Is duke going to continue playing right now?

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Matnum PI wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:17 am Duke is #1 because they were #1 preseason and you can't replace #1 until they're beaten. :roll: Whatever...

Based on Ws and Ls in 2021 and the quality of those Ws and Ls in 2021, UNC is #1, UMD is #2.
The media poll agrees with you on UNC.

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/league/DI/polls

Rank Team Points Prev
1 North Carolina (7 - 0) 403 (8) 2
2 Duke (8 - 0) 398 (6) 1
3 Maryland (4 - 0) 392 (6) 3
4 Georgetown (4 - 0) 341 5
5 Syracuse (3 - 1) 330 (1) 6
6 Rutgers (3 - 1) 300 4
7 Army (3 - 1) 296 7
8 Notre Dame (2 - 0) 278 9
9 Virginia (5 - 2) 268 8
10 Lehigh (3 - 0) 228 11
10 Denver (5 - 2) 228 10
12 Loyola (3 - 2) 159 13
13 UMass (1 - 0) 139 16
14 Ohio State (2 - 2) 132 15
15 Johns Hopkins (2 - 2) 110 29
16 Navy (2 - 0) 74 17
17 Penn State (1 - 3) 69 12
18 Delaware (5 - 1) 63 22
19 Vermont (2 - 2) 53 29
20 Hofstra (3 - 1) 52 18

I did not find UMass' win over Fairfield convincing enough to move them from 16 to 13.
I also did not find OSU's win over Michigan a reason to move them up. Michigan was close to beating them.
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:22 am Is duke going to continue playing right now?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html
Lucky for them, they’re on a ten day break,
so maybe no impact at all.
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