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Curious: Is it disqualifying for you guys who would consider voting GOP if the candidate answers "Yes" to the question "Was the election stolen from DJT?" or some version of the Big Lie?
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It may not be disqualifying. If you answer yes it certainly sends a whole bunch of FLP folks into an industrial strength nervous breakdown.seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:57 am Curious: Is it disqualifying for you guys who would consider voting GOP if the candidate answers "Yes" to the question "Was the election stolen from DJT?" or some version of the Big Lie?
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My three absolute disqualifiers going forward are if a candidate believes the big lie, voted to acquit Trump at his impeachment/s, or supports Trump as a candidate in a future election, and I'm far from a FLP.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:48 pmIt may not be disqualifying. If you answer yes it certainly sends a whole bunch of FLP folks into an industrial strength nervous breakdown.seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:57 am Curious: Is it disqualifying for you guys who would consider voting GOP if the candidate answers "Yes" to the question "Was the election stolen from DJT?" or some version of the Big Lie?
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Not one single elected official BELIEVES the lie. But they're more than happy to repeat it....SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:57 pm My three absolute disqualifiers going forward are if a candidate believes the big lie
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You just defined the problem all Republicans (except MD lax) understand. If you ever supported dump in the past.. your a loser. If your a republican ( with the exception of MD lax) you better damn well do what the FLP marshmallow fluff, candy ass Nelson Rockefeller wing of the party tells you to do. I have said this before but there is one thing the marshmallow fluff Republicans are really, really, really good at.. writing concession speeches when they get slobber knockered by the Democrats. MD lax should be more familiar with this phenonmena than anybody on this forum.SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:57 pmMy three absolute disqualifiers going forward are if a candidate believes the big lie, voted to acquit Trump at his impeachment/s, or supports Trump as a candidate in a future election, and I'm far from a FLP.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:48 pmIt may not be disqualifying. If you answer yes it certainly sends a whole bunch of FLP folks into an industrial strength nervous breakdown.seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:57 am Curious: Is it disqualifying for you guys who would consider voting GOP if the candidate answers "Yes" to the question "Was the election stolen from DJT?" or some version of the Big Lie?
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I'm not sure, there are a few new House members who may actually believe it.a fan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:13 pmNot one single elected official BELIEVES the lie. But they're more than happy to repeat it....SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:57 pm My three absolute disqualifiers going forward are if a candidate believes the big lie
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... a lot of these republicans, thinking it is forgivable by the press, are telling members of the press that there is gold in them thar hills and its how they will finance their next election.a fan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:13 pmNot one single elected official BELIEVES the lie. But they're more than happy to repeat it....SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:57 pm My three absolute disqualifiers going forward are if a candidate believes the big lie
I am sure glad, that makes helping to destroy the institution A OK.
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... a suggestion: change that from "believing" to "repeating" the big lie.SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:57 pmMy three absolute disqualifiers going forward are if a candidate believes the big lie, voted to acquit Trump at his impeachment/s, or supports Trump as a candidate in a future election, and I'm far from a FLP.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:48 pmIt may not be disqualifying. If you answer yes it certainly sends a whole bunch of FLP folks into an industrial strength nervous breakdown.seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:57 am Curious: Is it disqualifying for you guys who would consider voting GOP if the candidate answers "Yes" to the question "Was the election stolen from DJT?" or some version of the Big Lie?
Re: Voting Rights
March 7, 2021
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Black Americans outnumbered white Americans among the 29,500 people who lived in Selma, Alabama, in the 1960s, but the city’s voting rolls were 99% white. So, in 1963, Black organizers in the Dallas County Voters League launched a drive to get Black voters in Selma registered. The Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee, a prominent civil rights organization, joined them.
In 1964, Congress passed the Civil Rights Act, but it did not adequately address the problem of voter suppression. In Selma, a judge had stopped the voter registration protests by issuing an injunction prohibiting public gatherings of more than two people.
To call attention to the crisis in her city, Amelia Boynton, who was a part of the Dallas County Voters League but who, in this case, was acting with a group of local activists, traveled to Birmingham to invite Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr., to the city. King had become a household name after the 1963 March on Washington where he delivered the “I Have a Dream” speech, and his presence would bring national attention to Selma’s struggle.
King and other prominent members of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference arrived in January to press the voter registration drive. For seven weeks, Black residents tried to register to vote. County Sheriff James Clark arrested almost 2000 of them for a variety of charges, including contempt of court and parading without a permit. A federal court ordered Clark not to interfere with orderly registration, so he forced Black applicants to stand in line for hours before taking a “literacy” test. Not a single person passed.
Then, on February 18, white police officers, including local police, sheriff’s deputies, and Alabama state troopers, beat and shot an unarmed 26-year-old, Jimmie Lee Jackson, who was marching for voting rights at a demonstration in his hometown of Marion, Alabama, about 25 miles northwest of Selma. Jackson had run into a restaurant for shelter along with his mother when the police started rioting, but they chased him and shot him in the restaurant’s kitchen.
Jackson died eight days later, on February 26. The leaders of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference in Selma decided to defuse the community’s anger by planning a long march—54 miles-- from Selma to the state capitol at Montgomery to draw attention to the murder and voter suppression. Expecting violence, the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee voted not to participate, but its chair, John Lewis, asked their permission to go along on his own. They agreed.
On March 7, 1965, the marchers set out. As they crossed the Edmund Pettus Bridge, named for a Confederate brigadier general, Grand Dragon of the Alabama Ku Klux Klan, and U.S. senator who stood against Black rights, state troopers and other law enforcement officers met the unarmed marchers with billy clubs, bull whips, and tear gas. They fractured John Lewis’s skull, and beat Amelia Boynton unconscious. A newspaper photograph of the 54-year-old Boynton, seemingly dead in the arms of another marcher, illustrated the depravity of those determined to stop Black voting.
Images of “Bloody Sunday” on the national news mesmerized the nation, and supporters began to converge on Selma. King, who had been in Atlanta when the marchers first set off, returned to the fray.
Two days later, the marchers set out again. Once again, the troopers and police met them at the end of the Edmund Pettus Bridge, but this time, King led the marchers in prayer and then took them back to Selma. That night, a white mob beat to death a Unitarian Universalist minister, James Reeb, who had come from Massachusetts to join the marchers.
On March 15, President Lyndon B. Johnson addressed a nationally televised joint session of Congress to ask for the passage of a national voting rights act. “Their cause must be our cause too,” he said. “[A]ll of us… must overcome the crippling legacy of bigotry and injustice. And we shall overcome.” Two days later, he submitted to Congress proposed voting rights legislation.
The marchers remained determined to complete their trip to Montgomery, and when Alabama’s governor, George Wallace, refused to protect them, President Johnson stepped in. When the marchers set off for a third time on March 21, 1,900 members of the nationalized Alabama National Guard, FBI agents, and federal marshals protected them. Covering about ten miles a day, they camped in the yards of well-wishers until they arrived at the Alabama State Capitol on March 25. Their ranks had grown as they walked until they numbered about 25,000 people.
On the steps of the capitol, speaking under a Confederate flag, Dr. King said: “The end we seek is a society at peace with itself, a society that can live with its conscience. And that will be a day not of the white man, not of the black man. That will be the day of man as man.”
That night, Viola Liuzzo, a 39-year-old mother of five who had arrived from Michigan to help after Bloody Sunday, was murdered by four Ku Klux Klan members tailing her as she ferried demonstrators out of the city.
On August 6, Dr. King and Mrs. Boynton were guests of honor as President Johnson signed the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Johnson recalled “the outrage of Selma” when he said "This right to vote is the basic right without which all others are meaningless. It gives people, people as individuals, control over their own destinies."
The Voting Rights Act authorized federal supervision of voter registration in districts where African Americans were historically underrepresented. Johnson promised that the government would strike down “regulations, or laws, or tests to deny the right to vote.” He called the right to vote “the most powerful instrument ever devised by man for breaking down injustice and destroying the terrible walls which imprison men because they are different from other men,” and pledged that “we will not delay, or we will not hesitate, or we will not turn aside until Americans of every race and color and origin in this country have the same right as all others to share in the process of democracy.”
But less than 50 years later, in 2013, the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act. The Shelby County v. Holder decision opened the door, once again, for voter suppression. Since then, states have made it harder to vote. And now, in the wake of the 2020 election, in which voters handed control of the government to Democrats, legislatures in 43 states are considering sweeping legislation to restrict voting, especially voting by people of color. Among the things Georgia wants to outlaw is giving water to voters as they wait for hours in line to get to the polls.
Today, 56 years after Bloody Sunday, President Biden signed an executive order “to promote voting access and allow all eligible Americans to participate in our democracy.” He called on Congress to pass the For the People Act, making it easier to vote, and to restore the Voting Rights Act, now named the John R. Lewis Voting Rights Act after the man who went on from his days in the Civil Rights Movement to serve 17 terms as a representative from Georgia, bearing the scars of March 7, 1965, until he died on July 17, 2020.
The fact sheet from the White House announcing the executive order explained: “democracy doesn’t happen by accident. We have to defend, strengthen, and renew it.” Or, as Representative Lewis put it: “Never, ever be afraid to make some noise and get in good trouble, necessary trouble.”
Heather Cox Richardson
Mar 8
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Black Americans outnumbered white Americans among the 29,500 people who lived in Selma, Alabama, in the 1960s, but the city’s voting rolls were 99% white. So, in 1963, Black organizers in the Dallas County Voters League launched a drive to get Black voters in Selma registered. The Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee, a prominent civil rights organization, joined them.
In 1964, Congress passed the Civil Rights Act, but it did not adequately address the problem of voter suppression. In Selma, a judge had stopped the voter registration protests by issuing an injunction prohibiting public gatherings of more than two people.
To call attention to the crisis in her city, Amelia Boynton, who was a part of the Dallas County Voters League but who, in this case, was acting with a group of local activists, traveled to Birmingham to invite Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr., to the city. King had become a household name after the 1963 March on Washington where he delivered the “I Have a Dream” speech, and his presence would bring national attention to Selma’s struggle.
King and other prominent members of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference arrived in January to press the voter registration drive. For seven weeks, Black residents tried to register to vote. County Sheriff James Clark arrested almost 2000 of them for a variety of charges, including contempt of court and parading without a permit. A federal court ordered Clark not to interfere with orderly registration, so he forced Black applicants to stand in line for hours before taking a “literacy” test. Not a single person passed.
Then, on February 18, white police officers, including local police, sheriff’s deputies, and Alabama state troopers, beat and shot an unarmed 26-year-old, Jimmie Lee Jackson, who was marching for voting rights at a demonstration in his hometown of Marion, Alabama, about 25 miles northwest of Selma. Jackson had run into a restaurant for shelter along with his mother when the police started rioting, but they chased him and shot him in the restaurant’s kitchen.
Jackson died eight days later, on February 26. The leaders of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference in Selma decided to defuse the community’s anger by planning a long march—54 miles-- from Selma to the state capitol at Montgomery to draw attention to the murder and voter suppression. Expecting violence, the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee voted not to participate, but its chair, John Lewis, asked their permission to go along on his own. They agreed.
On March 7, 1965, the marchers set out. As they crossed the Edmund Pettus Bridge, named for a Confederate brigadier general, Grand Dragon of the Alabama Ku Klux Klan, and U.S. senator who stood against Black rights, state troopers and other law enforcement officers met the unarmed marchers with billy clubs, bull whips, and tear gas. They fractured John Lewis’s skull, and beat Amelia Boynton unconscious. A newspaper photograph of the 54-year-old Boynton, seemingly dead in the arms of another marcher, illustrated the depravity of those determined to stop Black voting.
Images of “Bloody Sunday” on the national news mesmerized the nation, and supporters began to converge on Selma. King, who had been in Atlanta when the marchers first set off, returned to the fray.
Two days later, the marchers set out again. Once again, the troopers and police met them at the end of the Edmund Pettus Bridge, but this time, King led the marchers in prayer and then took them back to Selma. That night, a white mob beat to death a Unitarian Universalist minister, James Reeb, who had come from Massachusetts to join the marchers.
On March 15, President Lyndon B. Johnson addressed a nationally televised joint session of Congress to ask for the passage of a national voting rights act. “Their cause must be our cause too,” he said. “[A]ll of us… must overcome the crippling legacy of bigotry and injustice. And we shall overcome.” Two days later, he submitted to Congress proposed voting rights legislation.
The marchers remained determined to complete their trip to Montgomery, and when Alabama’s governor, George Wallace, refused to protect them, President Johnson stepped in. When the marchers set off for a third time on March 21, 1,900 members of the nationalized Alabama National Guard, FBI agents, and federal marshals protected them. Covering about ten miles a day, they camped in the yards of well-wishers until they arrived at the Alabama State Capitol on March 25. Their ranks had grown as they walked until they numbered about 25,000 people.
On the steps of the capitol, speaking under a Confederate flag, Dr. King said: “The end we seek is a society at peace with itself, a society that can live with its conscience. And that will be a day not of the white man, not of the black man. That will be the day of man as man.”
That night, Viola Liuzzo, a 39-year-old mother of five who had arrived from Michigan to help after Bloody Sunday, was murdered by four Ku Klux Klan members tailing her as she ferried demonstrators out of the city.
On August 6, Dr. King and Mrs. Boynton were guests of honor as President Johnson signed the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Johnson recalled “the outrage of Selma” when he said "This right to vote is the basic right without which all others are meaningless. It gives people, people as individuals, control over their own destinies."
The Voting Rights Act authorized federal supervision of voter registration in districts where African Americans were historically underrepresented. Johnson promised that the government would strike down “regulations, or laws, or tests to deny the right to vote.” He called the right to vote “the most powerful instrument ever devised by man for breaking down injustice and destroying the terrible walls which imprison men because they are different from other men,” and pledged that “we will not delay, or we will not hesitate, or we will not turn aside until Americans of every race and color and origin in this country have the same right as all others to share in the process of democracy.”
But less than 50 years later, in 2013, the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act. The Shelby County v. Holder decision opened the door, once again, for voter suppression. Since then, states have made it harder to vote. And now, in the wake of the 2020 election, in which voters handed control of the government to Democrats, legislatures in 43 states are considering sweeping legislation to restrict voting, especially voting by people of color. Among the things Georgia wants to outlaw is giving water to voters as they wait for hours in line to get to the polls.
Today, 56 years after Bloody Sunday, President Biden signed an executive order “to promote voting access and allow all eligible Americans to participate in our democracy.” He called on Congress to pass the For the People Act, making it easier to vote, and to restore the Voting Rights Act, now named the John R. Lewis Voting Rights Act after the man who went on from his days in the Civil Rights Movement to serve 17 terms as a representative from Georgia, bearing the scars of March 7, 1965, until he died on July 17, 2020.
The fact sheet from the White House announcing the executive order explained: “democracy doesn’t happen by accident. We have to defend, strengthen, and renew it.” Or, as Representative Lewis put it: “Never, ever be afraid to make some noise and get in good trouble, necessary trouble.”
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Re: Voting Rights
Democrats = voting rights for all
Repukeblicans = voting rights for them and nobody else
For years they have been stealing elections and condemn anyone who complains. This year they cry about an imaginary stolen election. Yes, that's the party of principle and moral integrity.
Repukeblicans = voting rights for them and nobody else
For years they have been stealing elections and condemn anyone who complains. This year they cry about an imaginary stolen election. Yes, that's the party of principle and moral integrity.
It has been proven a hundred times that the surest way to the heart of any man, black or white, honest or dishonest, is through justice and fairness.
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Method acting.holmes435 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:20 pmI'm not sure, there are a few new House members who may actually believe it.a fan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:13 pmNot one single elected official BELIEVES the lie. But they're more than happy to repeat it....SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:57 pm My three absolute disqualifiers going forward are if a candidate believes the big lie
"There is nothing more difficult and more dangerous to carry through than initiating changes. One makes enemies of those who prospered under the old order, and only lukewarm support from those who would prosper under the new."
Re: Voting Rights
Well, congratulations, Republicans. Every time I think your party can't sink any lower.....
Why let non-whites vote at all? Get it over with. Stop with the games.
Notice this was their reaction? Not, oh, I don't know: "gee, we should probably make some policy changes that attract more voters or we're going to keep losing elections".
Nope. Just keep anyone who isn't a Republican from voting.
I mean......and you play dumb when you get called the party of racists. Institutional racism? What's that?
Personally? I'm counting the days until the only people who vote Republicans are over 70. Then you'll NEED absentee ballots.
And when that day comes? I"ll be first in line to help make in-person voting, ID in hand the only allowable way you can vote. And yep, that goes double for the military. If in person ID voting is that freaking important (yeah, right), make the military members come home if they want be heard. Otherwise? Stand to post, because gee whiz, in person voting with ID is CLEARLY soooper-important, right?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN2AJ2I0
Why let non-whites vote at all? Get it over with. Stop with the games.
Notice this was their reaction? Not, oh, I don't know: "gee, we should probably make some policy changes that attract more voters or we're going to keep losing elections".
Nope. Just keep anyone who isn't a Republican from voting.
I mean......and you play dumb when you get called the party of racists. Institutional racism? What's that?
Personally? I'm counting the days until the only people who vote Republicans are over 70. Then you'll NEED absentee ballots.
And when that day comes? I"ll be first in line to help make in-person voting, ID in hand the only allowable way you can vote. And yep, that goes double for the military. If in person ID voting is that freaking important (yeah, right), make the military members come home if they want be heard. Otherwise? Stand to post, because gee whiz, in person voting with ID is CLEARLY soooper-important, right?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN2AJ2I0
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They can't let people vote, else they might lose -- the GOP's America. The Party is a disgrace to the idea of democracy.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/electi ... d_nn_tw_ma
"Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds on Monday signed into law a Republican-backed bill that makes it harder to vote early, potentially eroding a key aspect of Democratic campaigns.
Republicans in the House and Senate quickly approved the voting changes over the opposition of all Democratic legislators. Republicans said the new rules were needed to guard against voting fraud, though they noted Iowa has no history of election irregularities and that November's election saw record turnout with no hint of problems in the state.
Reynolds said election integrity must be protected, claiming the law provides election officials with consistent parameters for Election Day, absentee voting and database maintenance
“All of these additional steps promote more transparency and accountability, giving Iowans even greater confidence to cast their ballot,” she said in a statement after signing the bill.
Democrats said they’re examining their reliance on early voting. In the last election, more than 70% of Democrats voted early.
“We don’t have to wait to get people registered to vote. We don’t have to wait to have Democrats talking with their neighbors in rural and metropolitan areas in the state about how these harmful pieces of legislation are being forced through,” said Iowa Democratic Party Chairman Ross Wilburn.
The law shortens the early voting period to 20 days from the current 29, just three years after Republicans reduced the period from 40 days. It also requires most mail ballots to be received by Election Day, rather than counting votes postmarked by Election Day that arrive by noon on the Monday following the election.
Voting sites will close at 8 p.m. rather than 9 p.m., and county election officials are banned from sending out absentee ballot request forms unless requested. Satellite voting sites also can only be set up if enough voters petition for one, and voters will be removed from active voting lists if they miss a single general election and don’t report a change in address or register as a voter again.
Wilburn said he is talking with the Democratic National Committee about strategies, noting that Republicans across the country are pushing for similar restrictions after former President Donald Trump blamed early voting for his election loss to Democrat Joe Biden.
Although there is no evidence of systematic fraud, lawmakers in 43 states are debating about 200 bills that would limit ballot access, according to the Brennan Center for Justice, a public policy group.
“What is unique about this year is the volume of bills we are seeing to restrict voting access and the brazenness of the efforts to go after methods of voting that are historically uncontroversial and popular with voters and clearly make it harder for people to cast ballots,” said Eliza Sweren-Becker, a lawyer in the Brennan Center’s Democracy Program."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/electi ... d_nn_tw_ma
"Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds on Monday signed into law a Republican-backed bill that makes it harder to vote early, potentially eroding a key aspect of Democratic campaigns.
Republicans in the House and Senate quickly approved the voting changes over the opposition of all Democratic legislators. Republicans said the new rules were needed to guard against voting fraud, though they noted Iowa has no history of election irregularities and that November's election saw record turnout with no hint of problems in the state.
Reynolds said election integrity must be protected, claiming the law provides election officials with consistent parameters for Election Day, absentee voting and database maintenance
“All of these additional steps promote more transparency and accountability, giving Iowans even greater confidence to cast their ballot,” she said in a statement after signing the bill.
Democrats said they’re examining their reliance on early voting. In the last election, more than 70% of Democrats voted early.
“We don’t have to wait to get people registered to vote. We don’t have to wait to have Democrats talking with their neighbors in rural and metropolitan areas in the state about how these harmful pieces of legislation are being forced through,” said Iowa Democratic Party Chairman Ross Wilburn.
The law shortens the early voting period to 20 days from the current 29, just three years after Republicans reduced the period from 40 days. It also requires most mail ballots to be received by Election Day, rather than counting votes postmarked by Election Day that arrive by noon on the Monday following the election.
Voting sites will close at 8 p.m. rather than 9 p.m., and county election officials are banned from sending out absentee ballot request forms unless requested. Satellite voting sites also can only be set up if enough voters petition for one, and voters will be removed from active voting lists if they miss a single general election and don’t report a change in address or register as a voter again.
Wilburn said he is talking with the Democratic National Committee about strategies, noting that Republicans across the country are pushing for similar restrictions after former President Donald Trump blamed early voting for his election loss to Democrat Joe Biden.
Although there is no evidence of systematic fraud, lawmakers in 43 states are debating about 200 bills that would limit ballot access, according to the Brennan Center for Justice, a public policy group.
“What is unique about this year is the volume of bills we are seeing to restrict voting access and the brazenness of the efforts to go after methods of voting that are historically uncontroversial and popular with voters and clearly make it harder for people to cast ballots,” said Eliza Sweren-Becker, a lawyer in the Brennan Center’s Democracy Program."
Re: Voting Rights
It has been proven a hundred times that the surest way to the heart of any man, black or white, honest or dishonest, is through justice and fairness.
Charles Francis "Socker" Coe, Esq
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Re: Voting Rights
Cancel culture at it's finest.
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The difference between 20 and 29 is at least one less weekend of voting. Old white retired voters, of course, don't care about weekends.The law shortens the early voting period to 20 days from the current 29, just three years after Republicans reduced the period from 40 days.
Please explain what this has to do with integrity or fraud? Versus knocking out (for zero reason) valid citizen voters who may vote infrequently or who move around a lot. Which, again, doesn't really impact old white retirees with plenty of time on their hands. Not that hard to squeeze in time to vote when the only other things you do are watch Fox News and go to the doctor on my dime. Forking takers who think they are makers.voters will be removed from active voting lists if they miss a single general election and don’t report a change in address or register as a voter again.
Such complete bull shirt.
Boycott stupid. If you ignore the gator troll, eventually he'll just go back under his bridge.
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Re: Voting Rights
That sounds like a loaded question. Define what you mean by stolen? Theft can be such a subjective thing you know?seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:57 am Curious: Is it disqualifying for you guys who would consider voting GOP if the candidate answers "Yes" to the question "Was the election stolen from DJT?" or some version of the Big Lie?
We don't make mistakes, we have happy accidents.
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Define " valid voter"? Such a subjective term if your a republican.ggait wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:37 pmThe difference between 20 and 29 is at least one less weekend of voting. Old white retired voters, of course, don't care about weekends.The law shortens the early voting period to 20 days from the current 29, just three years after Republicans reduced the period from 40 days.
Please explain what this has to do with integrity or fraud? Versus knocking out (for zero reason) valid citizen voters who may vote infrequently or who move around a lot. Which, again, doesn't really impact old white retirees with plenty of time on their hands. Not that hard to squeeze in time to vote when the only other things you do are watch Fox News and go to the doctor on my dime. Forking takers who think they are makers.voters will be removed from active voting lists if they miss a single general election and don’t report a change in address or register as a voter again.
Such complete bull shirt.
We don't make mistakes, we have happy accidents.
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Re: Voting Rights
Former President Carter calling bullsh*t on Georgia legislators trying to screw people out of their votes:
https://www.cartercenter.org/news/pr/20 ... 30921.html
"....I also am disappointed that advocates for these restrictive changes have repeatedly and selectively referenced a report prepared by a 2005 commission that I co-chaired with former Secretary of State James Baker. While our report noted a few good and bad examples of vote-by-mail practices, its main recommendation was that further study of voting by mail was needed. In the 16 years since the report’s release, vote-by-mail practices have progressed significantly as new technologies have been developed. In light of these advances, I believe that voting by mail can be conducted in a manner that ensures election integrity. This is just one of several ways to expand access to the voting process for voters across the state, regardless of political affiliation.
American democracy means every eligible person has the right to vote in an election that is fair, open, and secure. It should be flexible enough to meet the electorate’s changing needs. As Georgians, we must protect these values. We must not lose the progress we have made. We must not promote confidence among one segment of the electorate by restricting the participation of others. Our goal always should be to increase, not decrease, voter participation."
https://www.cartercenter.org/news/pr/20 ... 30921.html
"....I also am disappointed that advocates for these restrictive changes have repeatedly and selectively referenced a report prepared by a 2005 commission that I co-chaired with former Secretary of State James Baker. While our report noted a few good and bad examples of vote-by-mail practices, its main recommendation was that further study of voting by mail was needed. In the 16 years since the report’s release, vote-by-mail practices have progressed significantly as new technologies have been developed. In light of these advances, I believe that voting by mail can be conducted in a manner that ensures election integrity. This is just one of several ways to expand access to the voting process for voters across the state, regardless of political affiliation.
American democracy means every eligible person has the right to vote in an election that is fair, open, and secure. It should be flexible enough to meet the electorate’s changing needs. As Georgians, we must protect these values. We must not lose the progress we have made. We must not promote confidence among one segment of the electorate by restricting the participation of others. Our goal always should be to increase, not decrease, voter participation."
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Re: Voting Rights
Too convenient; and working people might find them helpful. Can't have that:
https://www.politico.com/states/florida ... ts-1367575
"Florida could ban voting drop boxes just months after an election where they proved immensely popular with voters amid the pandemic.
Sen. Dennis Baxley (R-Ocala), the chair of the Senate Ethics and Elections Committee, on Tuesday released a revamped elections proposal that would completely ban drop boxes for ballots. It will be considered by a Senate committee on Wednesday.
Baxley contended that he was pushing for the change due to concerns “due to a real security concern” and that boxes were being left unsupervised.
“I just want to maintain that chain of evidence from the time they vote to the time until they get counted so we don’t have a mishap,” said Baxley, who could not name any specific incidents that sparked the legislation. Baxley added “you can mail it or bring it to the office. That’s it.”
But the move immediately drew fire from local election supervisors.
“I’m at a loss for words,” said Pasco County Supervisor of Election Brian Corley, a Republican. “It’s a solution looking for a problem.”
https://www.politico.com/states/florida ... ts-1367575
"Florida could ban voting drop boxes just months after an election where they proved immensely popular with voters amid the pandemic.
Sen. Dennis Baxley (R-Ocala), the chair of the Senate Ethics and Elections Committee, on Tuesday released a revamped elections proposal that would completely ban drop boxes for ballots. It will be considered by a Senate committee on Wednesday.
Baxley contended that he was pushing for the change due to concerns “due to a real security concern” and that boxes were being left unsupervised.
“I just want to maintain that chain of evidence from the time they vote to the time until they get counted so we don’t have a mishap,” said Baxley, who could not name any specific incidents that sparked the legislation. Baxley added “you can mail it or bring it to the office. That’s it.”
But the move immediately drew fire from local election supervisors.
“I’m at a loss for words,” said Pasco County Supervisor of Election Brian Corley, a Republican. “It’s a solution looking for a problem.”