old salt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:25 pm
Blah blah, your team, blah blah
Right. Your Republican votes didn't matter. And there wasn't a single bad outcome by Republican leadership. They're awesome, and can't be criticized. Got it.
old salt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:25 pm
False choice. Perot & Buchanan prevented a 2nd Bush45 term & germinated the tea party.
Right. Bill Clinton had nothing to do with it. Or the foolish Gulf War.
And i find it HILARIOUS that you think Gingrich "germinated the Tea Party". That----whoops----"forgot" to care about Bush's spending spree, wiping out the surplus with Cheney's "deficits don't matter".
What gave us the Tea Party was a black man in the White House. And 'whoops" the Tea Party "forgot" about deficit spending when white guy Trump showed up. Oh yeah, the Tea Party was SOOOO serious about spending.
old salt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:25 pm
Different issues. Not an either or choice. We spent much more during the Cold War, yet took care of workers & built the biggest middle class in history, under both "teams". False choice.
Not a false choice, my man. You're forgetting, as all Republicans do, about the Reagan tax cuts...which dropped the bottom out of taxes for corporations and the rich. Trickle down. YOU chose that with your votes. We both know you voted for Reagan and Bush. This was their ENTIRE economic policy-----and Trump followed through just last year with this same stupid policy. Result? 1%er own it all, and mulitnational pay next to nothing, while small businesses like mine pay triple what they do, if not more. Sweet! Way to go!
old salt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:25 pm
Trump was better.
Great. Keep it up then. You and your fellow Republicans don't want to hear what this is doing to the rural Americans you hold up on a pedestal. Coastal elites are the winners. Flyover America are the losers. Learn to code, and move to a city. That's your choice now.
old salt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:25 pm
All our wars have been bipartisan.They can't be conducted without support from both parties.
Yep. Guess what that means? It means without your party rejecting Buchanan/Perot types? No Gulf War. No Iraq War. No plopping bases all over the Middle East. Your vote CHOSE this path.
old salt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:25 pm
...the Dems are rejecting PC culture.
So are Republicans. Try sitting for the National Anthem, and not pledge fealty to the Government that TrumpNation supposedly hates so much. Wait: what?
old salt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:25 pm
You must have slept through Jan 6th.
What does the idiocy at the Capitol have to do with rejecting PC culture?
old salt wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:45 pm
......except those of us who supported Perot & Buchanan
Right. Primaries. You chose war and trickle down over supporting the Middle Class. Best part? You chose it again with Trump. But you still think he was better.
old salt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:25 pm
Dems can't change their own oil.
The Coastal Elites don't need to change their oil. That's the whole point. But sure, let's stay on this Trumpian path you like so much. Fine by me.
old salt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:25 pm
Bernie & Warren got rich too. The Big Guy got his 10% too.
Yes. They're the coastal elites that are trying to help the working class. These are my wife's friends. All with multiple degrees. All working to make the world a better place.
What happens when they stop trying, OS? What happens when they chose the "every man for himself"?
old salt wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:45 pm
Your all or nothing "logic" misses the big picture. We are a net petroleum exporter. Our supply is no longer threatened by global bad actors.
They never were, remember? This is a total logic fail. The ENTIRE reason you military wonks gave us for all our meddling in the ME was to keep the oil flowing. So it was already secured. If it wasn't? What the F did we blow Trillions for? Our bases are still there.
old salt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:25 pm
Thanks to fracking, we top off our strategic reserve when prices are down, giving us security & allowing us to import foreign crude when it's cheaper. We were on the path to 100% total independence until Biden started shutting down pipelines
I'm against shutting that down.
old salt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:25 pm
......returned to regulatory disincentives in pursuit of the Green New Deal con job.
You don't like disincentives or incentives? Great. Lets shut off the handouts and tax breaks for big oil. How's that? Let's start there, and REALLY let the free market sort it out. Charge big oil for all our ME wars, since that was for them. What Republicans want is to ignore all the sweetheart deals big oil gets, and feign horror when anyone dares get a chunk of this money.
And Green energy will make the ME irrelevant, my man. But we'll still be over there, because no one is enough of a leader to tell the US Generals to go to hell with their global cop plans. Biden has already started going backwards, upping the global cop ante.