Progressive Ideology

[cradleandshoot]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-BB1dnSHM

I have been telling everybody on this forum that Tish James is going after King Andy's job. She will kick his ass in a landslide. King Andy should abdicate his thrown and understand the people of NYS are fed up with being ruled by a tyrant. Go Tish... kick Andy's ass to the curb. If NYS has to be led by a FLP let it be someone other than that lying, slimey ass piece of garbage named C**** Tish James... 2022 for governor of NYS.

[tech37]

https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2020 ... ebranding/

"If there was ever an opportune moment for left-wing activists to critique their party’s entire approach to politics, this would be it. Yet, if you listen to the group of politician-celebrities known as “the Squad”—Representatives Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley, and Rashida Tlaib, who have become the de facto spokespeople for the Democrats’ progressive, activist wing—the diagnosis is nothing short of bewildering. According to them, the lesson of 2020 is that the Democratic Party failed to address the forgotten and neglected issue of . . . racism?"

[cradleandshoot]

https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2020 ... ebranding/

"If there was ever an opportune moment for left-wing activists to critique their party’s entire approach to politics, this would be it. Yet, if you listen to the group of politician-celebrities known as “the Squad”—Representatives Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley, and Rashida Tlaib, who have become the de facto spokespeople for the Democrats’ progressive, activist wing—the diagnosis is nothing short of bewildering. According to them, the lesson of 2020 is that the Democratic Party failed to address the forgotten and neglected issue of . . . racism?"

No their actual goal is to eradicate the disease that they see as capitalism. AOC has very subtly stated as much. I am paraphrasing her words..." Capitalism did not always exists and it will not always exists" I'm thinking she has bigger and better ideas for this country. The status quo is not a part of that plan.

[tech37]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrew ... 320c1d10b3

"Forbes reviewed data from the Program on Extremism at the George Washington University, which has collated a list of more than 200 charging documents filed in relation to the siege. In total, the charging documents refer to 223 individuals in the Capitol Hill riot investigation. Of those documents, 73 reference Facebook. That’s far more references than other social networks. YouTube was the second most-referenced on 24. Instagram, a Facebook-owned company, was next on 20. Parler, the app that pledged protection for free speech rights and garnered a large far-right userbase, was mentioned in just eight."

[MDlaxfan76]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrew ... 320c1d10b3

"Forbes reviewed data from the Program on Extremism at the George Washington University, which has collated a list of more than 200 charging documents filed in relation to the siege. In total, the charging documents refer to 223 individuals in the Capitol Hill riot investigation. Of those documents, 73 reference Facebook. That’s far more references than other social networks. YouTube was the second most-referenced on 24. Instagram, a Facebook-owned company, was next on 20. Parler, the app that pledged protection for free speech rights and garnered a large far-right userbase, was mentioned in just eight."

Ya und??

[RedFromMI]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrew ... 320c1d10b3

"Forbes reviewed data from the Program on Extremism at the George Washington University, which has collated a list of more than 200 charging documents filed in relation to the siege. In total, the charging documents refer to 223 individuals in the Capitol Hill riot investigation. Of those documents, 73 reference Facebook. That’s far more references than other social networks. YouTube was the second most-referenced on 24. Instagram, a Facebook-owned company, was next on 20. Parler, the app that pledged protection for free speech rights and garnered a large far-right userbase, was mentioned in just eight."

Ya und??

Best thing you can conclude from this is that the video live-streaming capabilities of the top 3 may well be the most important reason why these were referenced. Those live streams were made because of the historic nature of the event in the eyes of those participating, but the videos also turn out to be the biggest piece of evidence they have...

[runrussellrun]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrew ... 320c1d10b3

"Forbes reviewed data from the Program on Extremism at the George Washington University, which has collated a list of more than 200 charging documents filed in relation to the siege. In total, the charging documents refer to 223 individuals in the Capitol Hill riot investigation. Of those documents, 73 reference Facebook. That’s far more references than other social networks. YouTube was the second most-referenced on 24. Instagram, a Facebook-owned company, was next on 20. Parler, the app that pledged protection for free speech rights and garnered a large far-right userbase, was mentioned in just eight."

Ya und??

Best thing you can conclude from this is that the video live-streaming capabilities of the top 3 may well be the most important reason why these were referenced. Those live streams were made because of the historic nature of the event in the eyes of those participating, but the videos also turn out to be the biggest piece of evidence they have...

Perhaps the focus should be on which social media company (s)that are IS still in business........and WHY that IS

93 total references to fecesbook companies (IS instagram a separately traded stock? ), compared to 8

and the latter, with way lesser references, gets censored.

that IS my take. certainly, not alone.

[MDlaxfan76]

Yup, there are lots of Q followers and white supremacists out there who think Parler is being "censored"...lots of company in that crowd...millions...woe is me.

We're seeing editorial choices beginning to be more frequently made by the big platforms, as they can see the horrible impact their algorithms have had "editorially" directing the most extreme content to those most likely to be drawn further down the rabbit holes of extremism.

The large orgs know they will be targeted for regulation and/or breakup if they don't mediate the worst impacts of their core money making system ...and now...

Likewise, it's a rather existential threat also to the cloud services if they don't get on the stick of non-participation in enabling the affordable reach to billions of prospective people of the most harmful content...they're way behind on this need as well, so I would expect them to go after all sorts of nefarious activities and orgs over time, particularly those which aren't regulating themselves for hyper extremism/violence ala Parler.

Big efforts need to be made in human trafficking, violent/abusive porn and trafficking etc.

Technology has moved fast and is only accelerating, and we're just at the beginning of recognizing the downsides that need to be addressed.

[cradleandshoot]

Yup, there are lots of Q followers and white supremacists out there who think Parler is being "censored"...lots of company in that crowd...millions...woe is me.

We're seeing editorial choices beginning to be more frequently made by the big platforms, as they can see the horrible impact their algorithms have had "editorially" directing the most extreme content to those most likely to be drawn further down the rabbit holes of extremism.

The large orgs know they will be targeted for regulation and/or breakup if they don't mediate the worst impacts of their core money making system ...and now...

Likewise, it's a rather existential threat also to the cloud services if they don't get on the stick of non-participation in enabling the affordable reach to billions of prospective people of the most harmful content...they're way behind on this need as well, so I would expect them to go after all sorts of nefarious activities and orgs over time, particularly those which aren't regulating themselves for hyper extremism/violence ala Parler.

Big efforts need to be made in human trafficking, violent/abusive porn and trafficking etc.

Technology has moved fast and is only accelerating, and we're just at the beginning of recognizing the downsides that need to be addressed.

Do you check for all those Q monsters hiding under your bed before you go to sleep every night? Those new state of the art LED flashlights will help you see into all those nooks and crannies and make sure your bed is monster free. Who was the Q guy behind the grassy knoll on that fateful November day in Dallas in 1963?

[youthathletics]

[Farfromgeneva]

Yup, there are lots of Q followers and white supremacists out there who think Parler is being "censored"...lots of company in that crowd...millions...woe is me.

We're seeing editorial choices beginning to be more frequently made by the big platforms, as they can see the horrible impact their algorithms have had "editorially" directing the most extreme content to those most likely to be drawn further down the rabbit holes of extremism.

The large orgs know they will be targeted for regulation and/or breakup if they don't mediate the worst impacts of their core money making system ...and now...

Likewise, it's a rather existential threat also to the cloud services if they don't get on the stick of non-participation in enabling the affordable reach to billions of prospective people of the most harmful content...they're way behind on this need as well, so I would expect them to go after all sorts of nefarious activities and orgs over time, particularly those which aren't regulating themselves for hyper extremism/violence ala Parler.

Big efforts need to be made in human trafficking, violent/abusive porn and trafficking etc.

Technology has moved fast and is only accelerating, and we're just at the beginning of recognizing the downsides that need to be addressed.

Do you check for all those Q monsters hiding under your bed before you go to sleep every night? Those new state of the art LED flashlights will help you see into all those nooks and crannies and make sure your bed is monster free. Who was the Q guy behind the grassy knoll on that fateful November day in Dallas in 1963?

Probably hiding out with those deep state phantoms some folks around here believe in.

[tech37]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrew ... 320c1d10b3

"Forbes reviewed data from the Program on Extremism at the George Washington University, which has collated a list of more than 200 charging documents filed in relation to the siege. In total, the charging documents refer to 223 individuals in the Capitol Hill riot investigation. Of those documents, 73 reference Facebook. That’s far more references than other social networks. YouTube was the second most-referenced on 24. Instagram, a Facebook-owned company, was next on 20. Parler, the app that pledged protection for free speech rights and garnered a large far-right userbase, was mentioned in just eight."

Ya und??

Just lookin out for "free speech."

And this article puts to rest the lies advanced by the left that Parler was the insurrectionist's main platform to communicate/plan and the basis for the app's removal.

FTR: You won't find me on any social media but Fanlax.

[a fan]

Just lookin out for "free speech."

Yeh......No, you're not.

You want to the government to tell Facebook what to do...what it can and cannot publish. That ain't "free speech". That's fascism.

Your reaction SHOULD be: well, Apple and Facebook can run their companies in any way they see fit. End of discussion.

You and FoxNation want government to intervene and FORCE Facebook and Apple to do your bidding. Right wing America is so freaking upside down with their "logic", it's both frightening and sad. Trump and FoxNation has ruined Right Wing America. You USED to make sense, and have actual, immovable principles. Not anymore. Now it's "win at all costs", whether politically or culturally.

And this article puts to rest the lies advanced by the left that Parler was the insurrectionist's main platform to communicate/plan and the basis for the app's removal.

The left had nothing to do with it. Apple can do whatever it wants. So can all the other companies involved. Remember?

Or at least until Republicans change that. I'm sure they will if you give them the chance.

Sweet. Really happy that millions of Americans are this lost at sea......

[tech37]

Just lookin out for "free speech."

Yeh......No, you're not.

You want to the government to tell Facebook what to do...what it can and cannot publish. That ain't "free speech". That's fascism.

Your reaction SHOULD be: well, Apple and Facebook can run their companies in any way they see fit. End of discussion.

You and FoxNation want government to intervene and FORCE Facebook and Apple to do your bidding. Right wing America is so freaking upside down with their "logic", it's both frightening and sad. Trump and FoxNation has ruined Right Wing America. You USED to make sense, and have actual, immovable principles. Not anymore. Now it's "win at all costs", whether politically or culturally.

And this article puts to rest the lies advanced by the left that Parler was the insurrectionist's main platform to communicate/plan and the basis for the app's removal.

The left had nothing to do with it. Apple can do whatever it wants. So can all the other companies involved. Remember?

Or at least until Republicans change that. I'm sure they will if you give them the chance.

Sweet. Really happy that millions of Americans are this lost at sea......

Yes, it's time the govt tells Facebook, Google, Twitter what to do. Break them up and regulate.

Fascism? Fine, put Antifa to work on it.

[a fan]

Yes, it's time the govt tells Facebook, Google, Twitter what to do.

Well, at least you're not in denial as to what you want to happen. We'll see how long this pro-government mentality lasts when the D's are making these calls.

Which companies are next, tech? Can the left get in power and break up FoxNews? Or tell them what shows and stories to run?

You keep claiming you're not a Republican----but you sure do like everything they do. If you could wake Ronnie Reagan up----you'd have to explain it to him a few dozens times before he told you to F off if you think it's a good idea to make the government FORCE Facebook to publish what someone else wants them to publish.


"The Squad", that upsets you to no end, would like nothing more than to use your idea of telling corporations and companies what they can and cannot do.....

[tech37]

Yes, it's time the govt tells Facebook, Google, Twitter what to do.

Well, at least you're not in denial as to what you want to happen. We'll see how long this pro-government mentality lasts when the D's are making these calls.

Which companies are next, tech? Can the left get in power and break up FoxNews? Or tell them what shows and stories to run?

You keep claiming you're not a Republican----but you sure do like everything they do. If you could wake Ronnie Reagan up----you'd have to explain it to him a few dozens times before he told you to F off if you think it's a good idea to make the government FORCE Facebook to publish what someone else wants them to publish.


"The Squad", that upsets you to no end, would like nothing more than to use your idea of telling corporations and companies what they can and cannot do.....

https://hiddenforces.io/podcasts/social ... t-stoller/

[old salt]

Yes, it's time the govt tells Facebook, Google, Twitter what to do.

Well, at least you're not in denial as to what you want to happen. We'll see how long this pro-government mentality lasts when the D's are making these calls.

Which companies are next, tech? Can the left get in power and break up FoxNews? Or tell them what shows and stories to run?

You keep claiming you're not a Republican----but you sure do like everything they do. If you could wake Ronnie Reagan up----you'd have to explain it to him a few dozens times before he told you to F off if you think it's a good idea to make the government FORCE Facebook to publish what someone else wants them to publish.


"The Squad", that upsets you to no end, would like nothing more than to use your idea of telling corporations and companies what they can and cannot do.....

You miss the point -- he's for protecting free speech, not restricting it, as the Big Tech companies are now doing.

[MDlaxfan76]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrew ... 320c1d10b3

"Forbes reviewed data from the Program on Extremism at the George Washington University, which has collated a list of more than 200 charging documents filed in relation to the siege. In total, the charging documents refer to 223 individuals in the Capitol Hill riot investigation. Of those documents, 73 reference Facebook. That’s far more references than other social networks. YouTube was the second most-referenced on 24. Instagram, a Facebook-owned company, was next on 20. Parler, the app that pledged protection for free speech rights and garnered a large far-right userbase, was mentioned in just eight."

Ya und??

Just lookin out for "free speech."

And this article puts to rest the lies advanced by the left that Parler was the insurrectionist's main platform to communicate/plan and the basis for the app's removal.

FTR: You won't find me on any social media but Fanlax.

Others have responded to other aspects of this nonsense, but your post does bring a question to mind: where have you seen the "left" advancing the notion, much less "lies" that "the insurrectionist's main platform to communicate/plan.." ??? Not here on Fanlax certainly...BTW, didn't you send me to Youtube for a podcast you follow? How'd you find that?

Everything I've read, heard, whether from the "left" or otherwise was that FaceBook groups was the heaviest used area, but certainly not the only one.

When Twitter and Facebook (and it's other platforms) began to crack down on violent organizing and phony identities etc, there was a concerted effort to reestablish on Parler...that was where these groups were directing their followers to move....and it began to grow and metastasize fast...with Parler (founded by a right wing whack job) openly declaring that all such were welcome to do and say whatever they wanted...even in the midst and wake of the violent insurrection.

But organizing on Parler was just starting, relatively speaking.

Want to get to the worst of it, need to go deeper dark web. But the vast majority of outreach was where the recruited converts already were...Facebook, etc.

[MDlaxfan76]

Yes, it's time the govt tells Facebook, Google, Twitter what to do.

Well, at least you're not in denial as to what you want to happen. We'll see how long this pro-government mentality lasts when the D's are making these calls.

Which companies are next, tech? Can the left get in power and break up FoxNews? Or tell them what shows and stories to run?

You keep claiming you're not a Republican----but you sure do like everything they do. If you could wake Ronnie Reagan up----you'd have to explain it to him a few dozens times before he told you to F off if you think it's a good idea to make the government FORCE Facebook to publish what someone else wants them to publish.


"The Squad", that upsets you to no end, would like nothing more than to use your idea of telling corporations and companies what they can and cannot do.....

You miss the point -- he's for protecting free speech, not restricting it, as the Big Tech companies are now doing.

ok Q.

[a fan]

Yes, it's time the govt tells Facebook, Google, Twitter what to do.

Well, at least you're not in denial as to what you want to happen. We'll see how long this pro-government mentality lasts when the D's are making these calls.

Which companies are next, tech? Can the left get in power and break up FoxNews? Or tell them what shows and stories to run?

You keep claiming you're not a Republican----but you sure do like everything they do. If you could wake Ronnie Reagan up----you'd have to explain it to him a few dozens times before he told you to F off if you think it's a good idea to make the government FORCE Facebook to publish what someone else wants them to publish.


"The Squad", that upsets you to no end, would like nothing more than to use your idea of telling corporations and companies what they can and cannot do.....

You miss the point -- he's for protecting free speech, not restricting it, as the Big Tech companies are now doing.

Oh, I get it. You and tech clearly don't.

You guys are thrilled at the idea of Republicans regulating companies that they think were mean to Trump. You think sticking it to who you think are the libs is cool, so you'll tolerate government intervention.

What happens when you give this regulatory power to AOC and her ilk, fellas? Whoops, forgot about that.

You're thinking like 2020 Republicans: you're willing to take "someone else's" freedoms away, thinking that it won't happen to you.

Why do you think the 230 reforms are shelved, fellas? Because now that idiot Trump is out of the way, ACTUAL conservatives are realizing that they can't "stick it to the libs" with 230 reform, without sticking it to things that Republicans actually like.

Respectfully, neither of you have though this through. Who's in charge of legislation the next two years, fellas? AOC and company would LOVE to regulate Multinational corporations, if Pelosi would let her. And you're both telling me you're giving her the green light? Good luck with that.