MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:57 am
tech37 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:36 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:49 am
tech37 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:18 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:01 pm
tech37 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 9:50 am
RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 9:37 am
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:39 am
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... d=msedgdhp
The media they sure do have Andy's back on this one. King Andy is not responsible for these deaths in NYS nursing homes... New York is responsible. That does not make sense because a lot of folks here have blamed dump for the death of 400 thousand people. Should they not be blaming the United States for the failure if that is the logic being used by some folks in the press? I got it... that's different.
There is much better logic in blaming the former president for a large portion of the deaths in the US, because there was an OBVIOUS lack of federal coordination, intervention, and support. There are plenty of other countries that fared better than the US with more effective governmental action.
At one time, the US had built a better mechanism for response to a pandemic but Trump and his cronies actually dismantled it. And some of the continued deaths that are upcoming will be attributable to this basic abdication of responsibility, as the basis of an effective response has to be built almost from scratch.
In addition to not acting correctly to combat the pandemic, Trump and his cronies politicized all sorts of effective measure, and followed goose chases to find a miracle cure in such a way to make a vast portion of his followers to question everything about the actual science/medicine. That continues to make it very difficult to put back together an effective response.
Ridiculous. Both sides politicized Covid. When will you start to see things more honestly? My guess... never.
And stop covering for Biden and his cronies. They wanted power, it's all now their's to fix.
You mean that one “side” said yikes this has the potential to be a huge health and economic crisis if we don’t act in a coordinated, aggressive way driven by the federal government?
And the other “side” called that a Democrat, media Fake News “hoax”?
Simplistic MSNBC/CNN propaganda... nice work mdlax
That's the extent of your response, Q?
Ha. And by your response it's quite obvious you're a biased, dead end re this subject.
Just for you, I'll repost this article. Did you even read it before or is the author cause for instant rejection? If so, just more bias on your part.
This is a truthful article whether you're capable of either understanding and/or admitting it:
https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/o ... s-2188255/
I'd read it before and just read it again. Yes, VDH is a right wing propagandist. Typical stuff from him.
Now as to his points, and by your post you're suggesting that they're yours, you two are drawing an equivalence to the Dems ripping Trump for his failures of leadership and decision making in the coronavirus crisis, as the Election Day approached....and those many months of politically motivated failures of Trump... That's it???
You see these as equivalent "politicization"???
So you can't even admit to the hypocrisy the author refers to. Harris, Pelosi, Newsom, just to name a few. They wanted everything and everyone locked down and yet broke their own rules. And you can't admit to how incredibly irresponsible and politicized Harris' comment that she wouldn't take the vaccine if Trump told us to? Wow you're right, that's some "actors in good faith" right there. Such BS.
You still haven't responded to the two very different ways the "sides" (science versus anti-science) took to the pandemic, playing out for months with continuing disastrous effect.
BS to your "anti-science" claim... just more lies. The administration cleared the red tape and bureaucratic hurdles, provided the funding and the impetus to develop vaccines in miraculous time. Anti-science my a$$.
Listen, I think there were legitimate questions as to what policies would best serve the American public at each stage of this public heath and economic crisis, questions on which people of good faith could fairly disagree, however Trump and his acolytes were never actors in good faith...and that's unfortunately the truth.
Those of us who were early on and continuously thereafter saying that consistent, universal sacrifices were necessary to prevent far greater costs longer term were correct. Countries which responded the most aggressively have suffered the least. Likewise, those of us who were immediately calling for following the lead of Asian countries, who had considerably more experience with respiratory epidemics, to mask up and socially distance, were quite correct. But half the country listened to a leader who told them the opposite, who attempted to shift blame to others, who refused to accept responsibility to lead an all-government, coordinated, competent response to an epic crisis...and here we are.
More BS. No matter what Trump would have done or attempted to do re your "all-government, coordinated, competent response," it would have been met with resistance and attempted sabotage at every turn by the Ds and media in order to undermine and blame.
WHO, CDC and Fauci were all over the place with recommendations (including masks), yet you knew? Your hindsight could not be better.
And stop with the comparisons with other little countries that don't have anything in common with the largest democracy in the world. We are not New Zealand nor South Korea, e.g. ... that's just dumb.
That doesn't mean that America got nothing right, to the contrary, half the country took responsibility, the scientists worked diligently, medical folks were heroic...lots of courageous and self-sacrificing people among our neighbors.
There's room to come together on this, learn from our mistakes, and move forward to address the next challenges...but as long as many cling to false equivalencies, or worse, that can't fully happen.
BTW, nice job with Joe Mauer's PM. For such a noble guy that says a lot.