Is that a worthwhile "life lesson"?
Not sure exactly what's meant by that statement, so asking, not disagreeing (yet).
Is that a worthwhile "life lesson"?
College athletes get some decent perks at most schools, but they largely don't get the same college experience as the other students. Most of the kids on a lacrosse team roster won't see a dime of athletic scholarship money and they put in long hours every week. They are largely "at will" employees of the coaches who can do with them as they please and there are no contracts or guarantees. While lacrosse is not the NCAA breadwinner of some other sports, the lacrosse kids are under the same umbrella and history has shown the NCAA is a money making enterprise and the they do it on the sweat equity of the players. There are great rewards with the experience but there is also a cost.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:19 amIs that a worthwhile "life lesson"?
Not sure exactly what's meant by that statement, so asking, not disagreeing (yet).
My dad and I both had intense experiences, certainly challenging and requiring major sacrifices to achieve our personal and team goals. I don’t think the NCAA or our colleges made a nickel off our play. We could each have walked away at any time for any reason, no financial tie. Coaches certainly weren’t always pleasant, certainly didn’t play us each game we thought we deserved to play. But we could have walked away. We both would have said we received far more from the experience than we invested, both were integral our team’s success. Both attended’stretch’ schools as a result of lax.socalref wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:44 pmCollege athletes get some decent perks at most schools, but they largely don't get the same college experience as the other students. Most of the kids on a lacrosse team roster won't see a dime of athletic scholarship money and they put in long hours every week. They are largely "at will" employees of the coaches who can do with them as they please and there are no contracts or guarantees. While lacrosse is not the NCAA breadwinner of some other sports, the lacrosse kids are under the same umbrella and history has shown the NCAA is a money making enterprise and the they do it on the sweat equity of the players. There are great rewards with the experience but there is also a cost.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:19 amIs that a worthwhile "life lesson"?
Not sure exactly what's meant by that statement, so asking, not disagreeing (yet).
Most of us get to reflect back on those days with the benefit of 20/20 hind site and a nice rose colored tint. These kids are dealing with it in real time.
Life isn't going to hand most of these guys anything unless they take the risk, push the envelope, and challenge the status quo. There is certainly a lesson in that experience.
I see that point too and understand. The friends and coaches my son has had on his various programs have often outweighed the chances they had to win championships, but I also know there are always guys that put that prize first and I'm not going to judge them for that. He's on a program now that will most likely never play in May, but the experience and memories will hopefully serve him well in the years ahead. That said, there are always players on teams who will drag the team ahead on their coattails chasing a personal goal.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:14 pm I’m just not seeing the positive ‘life lesson’ of a player bouncing around schools and teams somehow enabled to bend rules or have them ignored for him in particular. Put personal ambitions above team?
Not saying this TD s situation as I don’t know enough, but that’s why I’m asking.
As the Dead Prez once rapped: "If you're coming gangstersocalref wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:44 pmCollege athletes get some decent perks at most schools, but they largely don't get the same college experience as the other students. Most of the kids on a lacrosse team roster won't see a dime of athletic scholarship money and they put in long hours every week. They are largely "at will" employees of the coaches who can do with them as they please and there are no contracts or guarantees. While lacrosse is not the NCAA breadwinner of some other sports, the lacrosse kids are under the same umbrella and history has shown the NCAA is a money making enterprise and the they do it on the sweat equity of the players. There are great rewards with the experience but there is also a cost.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:19 amIs that a worthwhile "life lesson"?
Not sure exactly what's meant by that statement, so asking, not disagreeing (yet).
Most of us get to reflect back on those days with the benefit of 20/20 hind site and a nice rose colored tint. These kids are dealing with it in real time.
Life isn't going to hand most of these guys anything unless they take the risk, push the envelope, and challenge the status quo. There is certainly a lesson in that experience.
Thanks and that's a lot of schools!socalref wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:25 pmI see that point too and understand. The friends and coaches my son has had on his various programs have often outweighed the chances they had to win championships, but I also know there are always guys that put that prize first and I'm not going to judge them for that. He's on a program now that will most likely never play in May, but the experience and memories will hopefully serve him well in the years ahead. That said, there are always players on teams who will drag the team ahead on their coattails chasing a personal goal.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:14 pm I’m just not seeing the positive ‘life lesson’ of a player bouncing around schools and teams somehow enabled to bend rules or have them ignored for him in particular. Put personal ambitions above team?
Not saying this TD s situation as I don’t know enough, but that’s why I’m asking.
As for the NCAA and colleges, the TV and marketing money they get off the high profile players and teams isn't a small thing. I'm not saying they owe the kids anything for that, but I'm not going to find fault with a player pushing the rules and boundaries to reach their own goals. I don't know all the ins and outs of this transfer, so I can't comment one way or the other if rules have actually been broken. If they haven't been, I stand by my initial comment good for him for chasing his goals.
As a point of reference, I went to 3 middle schools, 3 high schools, and 3 colleges.
yikes...over an hour!wgdsr wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:01 pmhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/t ... 1544042615
go for it!
Will Yale take transfer credits? Can he go to Denver and transfer the credit to Yale and graduate? How many Ivy league players are going to take the spring off from school to protect eligibility? It seems like the Ivies are not looking at the science.nehslaxfan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:16 am I would hope that maybe someone at Yale has a conscious and realizes that there is no reason that these kids aren’t playing like other leagues and feels some empathy for the kids that TD is benefiting from in this case by allowing him to go play and come back.