All things CoronaVirus

[CU88]

I love NOT being able to see posts from people that I have blocked.

[wgdsr]

Interesting.......it IS either this gang of seagulls just squawks around, hitting each thread like its a fresh load of trash......and only time will have the gang return here, as THIS threads visits and activity has come to a screetching halt. (and PLEASE, spare us with the lame excuse of other events. metro, financial, sports, gossip, arts....all typical news departments for most infotainment )

it IS as if no one wants to discuss the vaxx results, symptoms, etc. Not just on this website either.

or, did tRump scare the Pfeizer people into lying about the 95% (ball already moved to 50% effacasy too

stock market didn't care about Jan. 6th, why should we

i'm in triple r. what do you want to discuss?

[runrussellrun]

I love NOT being able to see posts from people that I have blocked.

too bad, you missed some good information that I provided.

The actual report you posted about.

Did you play lacrosse with Paul?

[runrussellrun]

Another Record Day for U.S. Covid-19 Deaths; World Death Toll Nears Two Million

According to Johns Hopkins, the U.S. tallied more than 4,300 Covid-19 deaths in a single day on Tuesday. Two weeks into 2021, the U.S. has already experienced multiple record-breaking days, with five of the highest single-day death tolls occurring in the new year (AP, CNN). The seven-day average for Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. is now over 3,300, and more than 380,000 have died since the start of the pandemic. Around the world, nearly two million people have died.

Experts say that the situation in the U.S. is likely to remain serious through the winter. However, they are hopeful that things could turn around in the summer. Dr. Paul Offitt, a member of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee, said that through a combination of mass vaccinations, warmer weather and new policies by the incoming administration, the U.S. could see marked improvement toward the middle of 2021.

good

[runrussellrun]

Interesting.......it IS either this gang of seagulls just squawks around, hitting each thread like its a fresh load of trash......and only time will have the gang return here, as THIS threads visits and activity has come to a screetching halt. (and PLEASE, spare us with the lame excuse of other events. metro, financial, sports, gossip, arts....all typical news departments for most infotainment )

it IS as if no one wants to discuss the vaxx results, symptoms, etc. Not just on this website either.

or, did tRump scare the Pfeizer people into lying about the 95% (ball already moved to 50% effacasy too

stock market didn't care about Jan. 6th, why should we

i'm in triple r. what do you want to discuss?

sorry, I love coming onto a website and only reading people that I think I agree with. You question to much and are clearly a Trump supporter.

dude......I want to discuss the vaxx and how's it going. Is the piece of information accurate. 3k people are paralyzed? Not just bells palsey stuff, but full on, can't do a split dodge, paralyzed.

posted it earlier.

I must be a conspiracy nutter, what with all this skeptism about the vaxx.

for the 4 people on this website (gee cu88, mdlaxfan types, wonder why we can do a poll

I will never get the covid vaxx. Primary reason IS I already got it.

Anyone get their shot yet?

family member didn't go to work today after getting the 2nd shot. should check with him now.........

we need a poll.

or........I leave.

[a fan]

dude......I want to discuss the vaxx and how's it going. Is the piece of information accurate. 3k people are paralyzed? Not just bells palsey stuff, but full on, can't do a split dodge, paralyzed

Here's the CDC report, read for yourself.

And it's not "the Vaxx"...there are several vaccines....this report is on the Pfizer vaccine...


https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7002e1.htm

[runrussellrun]

dude......I want to discuss the vaxx and how's it going. Is the piece of information accurate. 3k people are paralyzed? Not just bells palsey stuff, but full on, can't do a split dodge, paralyzed

Here's the CDC report, read for yourself.

And it's not "the Vaxx"...there are several vaccines....this report is on the Pfizer vaccine...


https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7002e1.htm

Thank you for the link (govt. links only should be allowed, no social media junk )

The question I have is on the prior page. It is NOT a cdc report. Been distracted to follow up with it. Figured I could use some help.

[wgdsr]

Interesting.......it IS either this gang of seagulls just squawks around, hitting each thread like its a fresh load of trash......and only time will have the gang return here, as THIS threads visits and activity has come to a screetching halt. (and PLEASE, spare us with the lame excuse of other events. metro, financial, sports, gossip, arts....all typical news departments for most infotainment )

it IS as if no one wants to discuss the vaxx results, symptoms, etc. Not just on this website either.

or, did tRump scare the Pfeizer people into lying about the 95% (ball already moved to 50% effacasy too

stock market didn't care about Jan. 6th, why should we

i'm in triple r. what do you want to discuss?

sorry, I love coming onto a website and only reading people that I think I agree with. You question to much and are clearly a Trump supporter.

dude......I want to discuss the vaxx and how's it going. Is the piece of information accurate. 3k people are paralyzed? Not just bells palsey stuff, but full on, can't do a split dodge, paralyzed.

posted it earlier.

I must be a conspiracy nutter, what with all this skeptism about the vaxx.

for the 4 people on this website (gee cu88, mdlaxfan types, wonder why we can do a poll

I will never get the covid vaxx. Primary reason IS I already got it.

Anyone get their shot yet?

family member didn't go to work today after getting the 2nd shot. should check with him now.........

we need a poll.

or........leave.

so i tried to navigate vaers again and came up empty.
maybe you can find this info on there but i can't easily .

as far as your link and paralyzed... that looks like from what was screenshotted poetic license. not literal. gun to my head i'd say most of the 3k felt nauseous, under the weather, flu-like at some point... and bailed on work or chores for a day or more.

[runrussellrun]

Interesting.......it IS either this gang of seagulls just squawks around, hitting each thread like its a fresh load of trash......and only time will have the gang return here, as THIS threads visits and activity has come to a screetching halt. (and PLEASE, spare us with the lame excuse of other events. metro, financial, sports, gossip, arts....all typical news departments for most infotainment )

it IS as if no one wants to discuss the vaxx results, symptoms, etc. Not just on this website either.

or, did tRump scare the Pfeizer people into lying about the 95% (ball already moved to 50% effacasy too

stock market didn't care about Jan. 6th, why should we

i'm in triple r. what do you want to discuss?

sorry, I love coming onto a website and only reading people that I think I agree with. You question to much and are clearly a Trump supporter.

dude......I want to discuss the vaxx and how's it going. Is the piece of information accurate. 3k people are paralyzed? Not just bells palsey stuff, but full on, can't do a split dodge, paralyzed.

posted it earlier.

I must be a conspiracy nutter, what with all this skeptism about the vaxx.

for the 4 people on this website (gee cu88, mdlaxfan types, wonder why we can do a poll

I will never get the covid vaxx. Primary reason IS I already got it.

Anyone get their shot yet?

family member didn't go to work today after getting the 2nd shot. should check with him now.........

we need a poll.

or........leave.

so i tried to navigate vaers again and came up empty.
maybe you can find this info on there but i can't easily .

as far as your link and paralyzed... that looks like from what was screenshotted poetic license. not literal. gun to my head i'd say most of the 3k felt nauseous, under the weather, flu-like at some point... and bailed on work or chores for a day or more.

fear porn headlines perhaps......


I regret posting it.

[Bart]

Interesting.......it IS either this gang of seagulls just squawks around, hitting each thread like its a fresh load of trash......and only time will have the gang return here, as THIS threads visits and activity has come to a screetching halt. (and PLEASE, spare us with the lame excuse of other events. metro, financial, sports, gossip, arts....all typical news departments for most infotainment )

it IS as if no one wants to discuss the vaxx results, symptoms, etc. Not just on this website either.

or, did tRump scare the Pfeizer people into lying about the 95% (ball already moved to 50% effacasy too

stock market didn't care about Jan. 6th, why should we

i'm in triple r. what do you want to discuss?

sorry, I love coming onto a website and only reading people that I think I agree with. You question to much and are clearly a Trump supporter.

dude......I want to discuss the vaxx and how's it going. Is the piece of information accurate. 3k people are paralyzed? Not just bells palsey stuff, but full on, can't do a split dodge, paralyzed.

posted it earlier.

I must be a conspiracy nutter, what with all this skeptism about the vaxx.

for the 4 people on this website (gee cu88, mdlaxfan types, wonder why we can do a poll

I will never get the covid vaxx. Primary reason IS I already got it.

Anyone get their shot yet?

family member didn't go to work today after getting the 2nd shot. should check with him now.........

we need a poll.

or........leave.

so i tried to navigate vaers again and came up empty.
maybe you can find this info on there but i can't easily .

as far as your link and paralyzed... that looks like from what was screenshotted poetic license. not literal. gun to my head i'd say most of the 3k felt nauseous, under the weather, flu-like at some point... and bailed on work or chores for a day or more.

I'd have to agree. The figure was from a presentation so we do not actually know what the speaker said about the actual health impact events.

[Bart]

Anyone get their shot yet?

family member didn't go to work today after getting the 2nd shot. should check with him now.........

we need a poll.

or........I leave.

Had two family get it. One the pfizer and one the moderna.

Both sore arms after first shot but that was it. Second shot for the pfizer recipient caused sore arms in both arms, head ache but good to go the next day. Will know about the moderna second shot next week.

[holmes435]

Update on my first Moderna dose from last Tuesday.

I became paralyzed three days ago and died yesterday.

Sorry to report the bad news fellas, good luck in 2021!

[CU88]

January 14, 2021
Heather Cox Richardson
Jan 15



“Come Wednesday, we begin a new chapter.”

So said President-Elect Joe Biden tonight as he laid out a plan for a $1.9 trillion emergency vaccination and relief package to get the country through and past the coronavirus. The Trump administration created no federal program for the distribution of the coronavirus vaccine, leaving us woefully behind where we need to be to get our population vaccinated. And the virus is spreading fast. Over the past week, we have had an average of almost 250,000 new cases a day of coronavirus, with daily deaths on either side of 4000. We are approaching 390,000 recorded deaths from Covid-19.

Biden’s plan calls for $50 billion to ramp up Covid-19 testing, including rapid tests, and to help schools and local governments establish regular testing systems. It calls for an investment of $30 billion in the Disaster Relief Fund to make sure it can provide supplies for the pandemic.

It starts by addressing the pandemic, for both Biden and Vice President-Elect Kamala Harris believe that until people are comfortable circulating again, the economy will not rebound. But the plan also calls for federal support to rebuild the economy, a reflection of the ongoing crisis that in the last week led 965,000 Americans to turn to unemployment insurance for the first time, joining more than 5 million who have already filed claims.

The plan calls for $1400 stimulus checks for individuals, expanded unemployment benefits through September, an end to eviction and foreclosure until September 30, $30 billion to help people meet payments for rent or utilities, and a $15 minimum wage. Biden is calling for aid for child care, a $3 billion investment in the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC), and $350 billion for state, local, and tribal governments to support front line workers.

Biden laid out his ambitious plan even as fallout continued from the January 6 insurrection in Washington, D.C., when Trump supporters tried to overturn his victory in the 2020 election. Today the FBI continued to track down and arrest rioters, while the pro-Trump faction of the Republican Party continued its attempt to wrest control from establishment Republicans.

But while Republican lawmakers are calling for “unity” to deflect attention from the riot and to avoid accountability, Biden used this speech, at this time, to calm tensions and call for unity to move all Americans forward.

He emphasized, as he always does, that he wants to be a president for all Americans, not just those who voted for him, and that if we work together we can accomplish anything. He tried to appeal to disaffected Republicans by highlighting his plan to bring manufacturing jobs back to America, as well as to create new, well-paying jobs in new fields and in long delayed infrastructure projects. To reach out to religious voters who were horrified last week by the vision of those who self-identify as Christians calling for the death of Vice President Mike Pence, Biden emphasized the morality in the plan: a good society should not let children go to bed hungry.

He made a sharp contrast with the current president, not only by sharing an actual plan to confront real problems, but also by empathizing with Americans who have lost loved ones to the pandemic and who are hurting in the stalled economy. “Every day matters, every person matters,” he said.

But Biden’s plan is far larger than a way to address our current crisis. It outlines a vision for America that reaches back to an older time, when both parties shared the idea that the government had a role to play in the economy, regulating business, providing a basic social safety net, and promoting infrastructure.

That vision was at the heart of the New Deal, ushered in by Democrat Franklin Delano Roosevelt after the Great Crash of 1929 and the Depression that followed it illustrated that the American economy needed a referee to keep the wealthy playing by the rules. Government intervention proved so successful and so popular that the Republican Party, which had initially recoiled from what its leaders incorrectly insisted was communism, by 1952 had adopted the idea of an activist government. Republican President Dwight Eisenhower added the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare to the Cabinet on April 11, 1953, and in 1956 signed into law the Federal-Aid Highway Act, which began the construction of 41,000 miles of interstate highways.

While this system was enormously popular, reactionary Republicans hated business regulation, the incursion of the federal government into lucrative infrastructure fields, and the taxes it took to pay for the new programs (the top marginal tax rate in the 1950s was 91%). They launched a movement to end what was popularly known as the “liberal consensus”: the idea that the government should take an active role in keeping the economic playing field level.

The liberal consensus was widely popular, these “Movement Conservatives” turned to the issue of race to break it. After the Supreme Court unanimously declared racial segregation in schools unconstitutional in the 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision, Movement Conservatives warned that an active government was not defending equality but redistributing the tax dollars of hardworking white men to grasping minorities through social programs.

By 1980, Movement Conservatives were gaining power in the Republican Party by calling for tax cuts and smaller government, slashing regulations and domestic programs even as they poured money into the military and their tax cuts began moving money upward. By the 1990s, Movement Conservatives had gained the upper hand in the party and, determined to take the government back to the days before the New Deal, were systematically purging it of what they called “RINOs”—Republicans in Name Only. They would, they said, make the government small enough to drown it in a bathtub.

As they dragged the country toward the right, Republicans pulled the Democrats from the New Deal toward reforms Democratic lawmakers hoped could attract the voters they had lost to the Republicans. “The era of big government is over,” President Bill Clinton famously said, although he continued to protect Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid from Republican cuts.

The Democratic defense of an active government was popular—people actually like government regulation, social welfare programs, and roads and bridges. But Republicans continued to be determined to get rid of the liberal consensus once and for all, insisting that true liberty would free individuals to organize a booming economy. Trump’s administration was the culmination of two generations of Republican attempts to dismantle the New Deal state.

But now, the dangers of gutting our government and empowering private business to extremes have become only too clear. For four years, we have watched as a few privileged business leaders got rid of career government employees and handed their jobs to lackeys. The result has been a raging pandemic and a devastating economic collapse, as money has moved dramatically upward. Even before the pandemic, the Trump administration had added 50% to the national debt despite cuts to domestic programs. In the 2020 election, Trump offered more of the same. Americans rejected him and chose Biden.

Biden’s speech tonight marked a resurrection of the idea of an activist government as a positive good. He is calling for the government to invest in ordinary Americans rather than in the people at the top of the economy, and is openly calling for higher taxes on the wealthy to fund such investment. “Asking everyone to pay their fair share at the top so we can make permanent investments to rescue and rebuild America is the right thing for our economy,” he said. Unlike the New Dealers and Eisenhower Republicans of the mid-20th century, though, Biden’s vision is not centered on ensuring that a white man can take care of his family. It is centered on guaranteeing a fair economy for all, focusing on an idea of community that highlights the needs of women and children.

The idea of a government that supports ordinary Americans rather than the wealthy was first articulated by Abraham Lincoln in 1859 and was the system the Republicans first put in place during the Civil War. They paid for the programs with our first national taxes, including an income tax. After industrialists cut back that original system, Republican Theodore Roosevelt brought it back, and after it lapsed again in the 1920s, his Democratic cousin Franklin rebuilt it in such a profound way that it shaped modern America. With that system now on the verge of destruction yet again, Biden is making a bid to bring it back to life in a new form.

It is a new chapter indeed, but in a very traditional American story.

[cradleandshoot]

Update on my first Moderna dose from last Tuesday.

I became paralyzed three days ago and died yesterday.

Sorry to report the bad news fellas, good luck in 2021!

Don't worry, you will get better soon. My hope is you don't come back from the other side and start eating people.

[ardilla secreta]

Update on my first Moderna dose from last Tuesday.

I became paralyzed three days ago and died yesterday.

Sorry to report the bad news fellas, good luck in 2021!

You must be on the soon to be released Trump healthcare plan for everyone

[Bart]

This video discusses when a less sensitive test may be more applicable than the slower, more sensitive PCR test.



This web site tutorial talks about masks and the math behind them. It is an interactive site with some interesting conclusions.

https://aatishb.com/maskmath/

Watch or read or not. I found them interesting.

[wgdsr]

on national trends:
https://mobile.twitter.com/COVID19Track ... 2642897920
-hospitalizations is now a noticeable tick down.
-cases ticking lower, maybe a result of the lag from holiday reporting over as daily tests are now at highs. positivity down to about 11% vs 13%.
-in a week or so we'll get a read on death level and if they've resolved the holiday gap reporting. then trend from there.

[Typical Lax Dad]

This video discusses when a less sensitive test may be more applicable than the slower, more sensitive PCR test.



This web site tutorial talks about masks and the math behind them. It is an interactive site with some interesting conclusions.

https://aatishb.com/maskmath/

Watch or read or not. I found them interesting.

Thanks for posting that.

[wgdsr]

This video discusses when a less sensitive test may be more applicable than the slower, more sensitive PCR test.



This web site tutorial talks about masks and the math behind them. It is an interactive site with some interesting conclusions.

https://aatishb.com/maskmath/

Watch or read or not. I found them interesting.

there are 2 community masks studies that i've seen that have shown good promise on masks for covid spread.

one through the university of iowa, who if you go to their site and bounce around on research they've done, looks like they have a very deep bench in epidemiology. not normal? and at least one of the authors has done some other real published work on covid.

anyway, the major limitation imo and there a couple others... the time period. like march to may. and then judging start periods of places that had gotten hit early vs those that hadn't. now that they have the rubric, if they could provide a follow on study now that about everyone has gone thru swings, that'd be very instructive.
https://www.public-health.uiowa.edu/new ... -mandates/
the other was based on the reasoning provided by your article on why masks can work for lower viral load. 1,085 counties. robust. unfortunately, it was pulled a week or so after it came out bc again, timing. we went thru (still are) a surge shortly thereafter and once again... a follow on study might be invaluable.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 20208728v2

[a fan]

Update on my first Moderna dose from last Tuesday.

I became paralyzed three days ago and died yesterday.

Sorry to report the bad news fellas, good luck in 2021!

Snorted my coffee on that one.

Although I'm not sure what to say here......sorry for your loss?