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The Constitution does not specify whether disqualification requires a two-thirds Senate vote, as conviction in an impeachment trial does, or only a majority vote. The Senate has previously used a majority vote.
FYI, to disqualify (majority vote) you must first convict (2/3rds vote). So the 2/3rds vote still applies and is the only vote that matters.

Seems to me that impeachment/disqualification is mandatory. Seems like the least Congress could/should do under the circumstances.

Even Chris Christie says if he were in Congress, he would vote in favor of impeachment. "I think if inciting to insurrection isn’t [impeachable], then I don’t really know what is."

Rather than some mealy mouthed advisory censure resolution, Congress should use the tool authorized by the Constitution and which has actual legal effect. Trump should be convicted and banned for life. Exactly how and when it happens is just details.
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The House has to impeach him. If it doesn't, then the impeachment clauses mean nothing. And a normal Congressman or Senator will have an opportunity that every other citizen lacks: the opportunity to signal to Americans that incitement to a violent attack on the functions of government, and on political opponents, is over the line. Frankly, the erstwhile seditionists among them should relish the chance to make a meaningful statement.

Instead, the putrid call for "unity," "meeting in the middle," and "calm." Like this puke from Rep. Lee Zeldin:

"Wed’s violence was terrible, but some people need to take a deep breadth and look in the mirror. Those who committed acts of violence in the Capitol must be held accountable, but Dems and media eager to use Wed to settle political scores would only be dividing our country more."

Question: Why do you think the Speaker gave Pence 24 hours to invoke the 25th?
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Oh no!!! Who would have thought....

https://www.politico.com/states/new-yor ... ni-1354849

"The New York State Bar Association is launching an inquiry into expelling Rudy Giuliani from its membership over his role in inciting the mob that stormed the U.S. Capitol last week.

The Bar Association said Monday it has received hundreds of complaints about Giuliani, President Donald Trump’s personal attorney and the former mayor of New York City. Its president, Scott Karson, “has launched an inquiry pursuant to the Association’s bylaws to determine whether Mr. Giuliani should be removed from the membership rolls of the Association,” the group said in a statement.

The Bar Association cites Giuliani’s speech to a group of thousands of Trump supporters outside the White House before they headed for the Capitol, where he repeated baseless claims that election fraud is to blame for Trump’s loss.

“If we’re wrong, we will be made fools of, but if we’re right a lot of them will go to jail,” Giuliani, the former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District, said. “Let’s have trial by combat.”

The bylaws of the Bar Association prevent membership for anyone who advocates the overthrow of the United States government or of any state or locality by force or illegal means. Expulsion from the association would not affect Giuliani's ability to practice law in the state.

“Mr. Giuliani’s words quite clearly were intended to encourage Trump supporters unhappy with the election’s outcome to take matters into their own hands,” the association said in its statement. “Their subsequent attack on the Capitol was nothing short of an attempted coup, intended to prevent the peaceful transition of power.”

As part of the inquiry, Giuliani will have the opportunity to explain his actions if he chooses. He did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

“This decision is historic for NYSBA, and we have not made it lightly," the group said. "We cannot stand idly by and allow those intent on rending the fabric of our democracy to go unchecked."
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:19 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:33 am
old salt wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:55 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:42 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:32 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:30 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:22 pm Eat this, Salty:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html
A thorough investigation is needed. This may be worse than Benghazi.
This looks purposeful.
Schmidlap blamed it on the mayor.
The DC Mayor only wanted 100 unarmed NG troops to direct traffic because she didn't want a militarized presence on her streets.
She got what she asked for. It was purposeful all right. Congress & the DC Mayor got exactly what they wanted, a light military footprint.
This is why Trump insisted on an adequate military backup when the BLM mob tried to take over Lafayette Park & threaten the WH grounds.
You're right about dumb Americans. You can start with the DC Mayor & the 2 Congressional Sergeants at Arms.

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-do ... 1e6ed4abe4

Jan 4. 2021. {DC Mayor} Bowser put in a request on New Year’s Eve to have Guard members on the streets from Tuesday to Thursday to help with the protests. The official said the additional forces will be used for traffic control and other assistance but they will not be armed or wearing body armor. Congress is meeting this week to certify the Electoral College results, and Trump has refused to concede while whipping up support for protests.

Some 340 D.C. National Guard members will be activated, with about 115 on duty in the streets at any given time, said the defense official, who provided details on condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. The official said Guard members will be used to set up traffic control points around the city and to stand with district police officers at all the city’s Metro stops. Contee said Guard troops will also be used for some crowd management.

“Some of our intelligence certainly suggests there will be increased crowd sizes,” said Contee.

Because D.C. does not have a governor, the designated commander of the city’s National Guard is Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy. Any D.C. requests for Guard deployments have to be approved by him.

The defense official said that there will be no active duty military troops in the city, and the U.S. military will not be providing any aircraft or intelligence. The D.C. Guard will provide specialized teams that will be prepared to respond to any chemical or biological incident. But the official said there will be no D.C. Guard members on the National Mall or at the U.S. Capitol.
Un huh.
Salty ignores the Pentagon's fiddling and fiddling and fiddling. Yes, Sund's bosses at the Capitol Police blew it upfront.

No, the Mayor and DC police had the right approach to how to handle the streets. And, the DC police were poised and moved swiftly to reinforce when called. The Mayor and DC police are NOT responsible for protection of federal buildings, including the Mall and Capitol.

The DC Guard were asked to 'lean forward'...loos like they didn't, but more importantly looks like they dawdled and dawdled when the pleas for help went out.

But Salty's a LOST CAUSE.

And now, like all these others who turn on GOP leaders who tell the truth, is now turning on Hogan.

I agree with a caveat. Hogan was truthful, but there was of course the underlying 2024 message he was sending, and was clearly audible. I have now seen Hogan tell the story multiple times and as time has gone by, the original underlying message has been greatly toned down to the point where it is difficult to say it exists. I would guess he and his advisors probably correctly concluded that the original underlying message was problematic.
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SCLaxAttack wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:55 am
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:30 am Looks like Nancy's going to rush through articles of impeachment then sit on them, at least until Biden has his first 100 days, get's his nominees confirmed, & diversifies the national covid vacc plan.

Maybe she can stretch it out until the 2022 campaign starts, just like she did last time.

More political theater.
Citation for the “then sit on them” portion of your comment, please.

I can understand why one train of thought would be to get the Biden administration agenda priority, but I agree postponement would show a lack of seriousness to the charge.

The probability of a guilty judgement is also reduced, as possible Republican senatorial support will fade; partly because of America’s penchant for having a short memory.
Your SC Rep Clyburn & Sen Joe Manchin on Sun talk shows.

It would defer the Senate trial until after Biden gets his appointees & 100 day programs in place & the (D)'s would then control the Senate & set the parameters & rules of the trial. It would also give them more time to pick up the 17 (R) votes necessary for conviction.
If convicted, it could be followed with an act prohibiting a convicted Trump from holding office again, which would only require a simple majority vote.
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old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:28 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:55 am
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:30 am Looks like Nancy's going to rush through articles of impeachment then sit on them, at least until Biden has his first 100 days, get's his nominees confirmed, & diversifies the national covid vacc plan.

Maybe she can stretch it out until the 2022 campaign starts, just like she did last time.

More political theater.
Citation for the “then sit on them” portion of your comment, please.

I can understand why one train of thought would be to get the Biden administration agenda priority, but I agree postponement would show a lack of seriousness to the charge.

The probability of a guilty judgement is also reduced, as possible Republican senatorial support will fade; partly because of America’s penchant for having a short memory.
Your SC Rep Clyburn & Sen Joe Manchin on Sun talk shows.

It would defer the Senate trial until after Biden gets his appointees & 100 day programs in place & the (D)'s would then control the Senate & set the parameters & rules of the trial. It would also give them more time to pick up the 17 (R) votes necessary for conviction.
If convicted, it could be followed with an act prohibiting a convicted Trump from holding office again, which would only require a simple majority vote.
Your Jim Jordan, now, wants us all to be friends, for the good of the country. Of course he is worried about anti-trust issues.

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Kismet wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:56 am
old salt wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:52 pm
Nothing new in that article other than CNN's wishful headline. The StL Post & KC Star both endorsed 2 term incumbent McCaskill in '18. He easily unseated her. She's now the resident crab on Morning Joe. They criticized everything Hawley did even before this.

5 of 6 MO House Reps joined Hawley in objecting, in the midst of the siege of the Capitol. Hawley's not up for reelection until '24. Keep doxing him. It makes him a sympathetic figure back home. The (D)'s & their media proxies want to make sure he's not Trump's successor. He scares them for '24.
Frankly, I don't require Senators from states where they don't reside to influence (or even have an opinion on) what elected officials in my state do with regard to election process. Said process is delegated to the states by the Constitution - the document their oath requires them to support and defend.

If I wanted to live in Missouri I'd move there -- but, to tell the truth, having been there many times it is not nirvana.

IMHO both Hawley and Cruz are TOAST as future candidates. The last thing this country needs is another a-hole as big as DOPUS running things. Of course, DOPUS is not running much of ANYTHING currently except his mouth.
Who cares what you require. Every member is entitled to their 5 min of debate to speak on behalf of the voters they represent. Members who disagree can take their 5 min, scold them & state their disagreement & why. That's the way these objections have always been done before.

You may be right about the future of Cruz & Hawley. Their voters will decide.

You're just jealous of MO because we've won so many World Series & the hunting, fishing, boating & water sports are so good, at a fraction of the bi-coastal cost of living.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:19 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:33 am
old salt wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:55 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:42 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:32 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:30 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:22 pm Eat this, Salty:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html
A thorough investigation is needed. This may be worse than Benghazi.
This looks purposeful.
Schmidlap blamed it on the mayor.
The DC Mayor only wanted 100 unarmed NG troops to direct traffic because she didn't want a militarized presence on her streets.
She got what she asked for. It was purposeful all right. Congress & the DC Mayor got exactly what they wanted, a light military footprint.
This is why Trump insisted on an adequate military backup when the BLM mob tried to take over Lafayette Park & threaten the WH grounds.
You're right about dumb Americans. You can start with the DC Mayor & the 2 Congressional Sergeants at Arms.

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-do ... 1e6ed4abe4

Jan 4. 2021. {DC Mayor} Bowser put in a request on New Year’s Eve to have Guard members on the streets from Tuesday to Thursday to help with the protests. The official said the additional forces will be used for traffic control and other assistance but they will not be armed or wearing body armor. Congress is meeting this week to certify the Electoral College results, and Trump has refused to concede while whipping up support for protests.

Some 340 D.C. National Guard members will be activated, with about 115 on duty in the streets at any given time, said the defense official, who provided details on condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. The official said Guard members will be used to set up traffic control points around the city and to stand with district police officers at all the city’s Metro stops. Contee said Guard troops will also be used for some crowd management.

“Some of our intelligence certainly suggests there will be increased crowd sizes,” said Contee.

Because D.C. does not have a governor, the designated commander of the city’s National Guard is Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy. Any D.C. requests for Guard deployments have to be approved by him.

The defense official said that there will be no active duty military troops in the city, and the U.S. military will not be providing any aircraft or intelligence. The D.C. Guard will provide specialized teams that will be prepared to respond to any chemical or biological incident. But the official said there will be no D.C. Guard members on the National Mall or at the U.S. Capitol.
Un huh.
Salty ignores the Pentagon's fiddling and fiddling and fiddling. Yes, Sund's bosses at the Capitol Police blew it upfront.

No, the Mayor and DC police had the right approach to how to handle the streets. And, the DC police were poised and moved swiftly to reinforce when called. The Mayor and DC police are NOT responsible for protection of federal buildings, including the Mall and Capitol.

The DC Guard were asked to 'lean forward'...loos like they didn't, but more importantly looks like they dawdled and dawdled when the pleas for help went out.

But Salty's a LOST CAUSE.

And now, like all these others who turn on GOP leaders who tell the truth, is now turning on Hogan.
Here we go with the fiddling again. Like 40 meaningless minutes to get the approvals required by law & draft the orders & ROE, to active NG troops which would take hours to recall & deploy.

You'd prefer the duty General who answers the phone exercise the President's authority to send armed NG troops into the Capitol.

What became of your outrage over the heavy military presence for the battle of Laf park ?

If the DC Police had moved as required, they'd have been on the Capitol steps in riot gear, alongside the Capitol Police, when the mob arrived, as their mutual aid agreement & standing contingecy plan requires.

Lean forward ? What the F does that mean ? That's not a request to activate the NG & fund the costs of doing so.

Larry just kicked off his campaign for '24. I'll happily vote for him, but he need not throw the Sec Def under the bus just to get Stenny off his back.
They were too busy dealing with an emergency to immediately take Larry's call.
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old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:38 pm
Who cares what you require. Every member is entitled to their 5 min of debate to speak on behalf of the voters they represent. Members who disagree can take their 5 min, scold them & state their disagreement & why. That's the way these objections have always been done before.

You may be right about the future of Cruz & Hawley. Their voters will decide.

You're just jealous of MO because we've won so many World Series & the hunting, fishing, boating & water sports are so good, at a fraction of the bi-coastal cost of living.
Up yours Sailor. Last time I checked my favorite baseball team has 16 more World Series championships than the Cardinals.
Must be such a nice place that pro basketball and football could not be supported there after MULTIPLE tries.

Call me when you can sport fish for striped bass and tuna in Missouri. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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That's the way these objections have always been done before.
Salty is correct. Exact same thing as in 2005:

1. John Kerry maintained for two months that he had won in a landslide.
2. John Kerry filed and lost 5 dozen lawsuits contesting the election.
3. John Kerry held a rally on the day the EC votes were opened in Congress and counted.
4. John Kerry incited his supporters to storm the Capital.
5. Kerry's supporters forced the counting to be suspended while members of Congress fled the chambers for their lives.
6. After several people died and the Capital was cleared by SWAT teams, the joint session resumed.
7. Then Senator Boxer decided it was appropriate to continue with her objection.

I don't see any material differences. Do you?
Boycott stupid. If you ignore the gator troll, eventually he'll just go back under his bridge.
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Kismet wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:54 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:38 pm
Who cares what you require. Every member is entitled to their 5 min of debate to speak on behalf of the voters they represent. Members who disagree can take their 5 min, scold them & state their disagreement & why. That's the way these objections have always been done before.

You may be right about the future of Cruz & Hawley. Their voters will decide.

You're just jealous of MO because we've won so many World Series & the hunting, fishing, boating & water sports are so good, at a fraction of the bi-coastal cost of living.
Up yours Sailor. Last time I checked my favorite baseball team has 16 more World Series championships than the Cardinals.
Must be such a nice place that pro basketball and football could not be supported there after MULTIPLE tries.

Call me when you can sport fish for striped bass and tuna in Missouri. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
St. Louis Spirits made more money by not having an NBA team there!
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Kismet wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:54 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:38 pm
Who cares what you require. Every member is entitled to their 5 min of debate to speak on behalf of the voters they represent. Members who disagree can take their 5 min, scold them & state their disagreement & why. That's the way these objections have always been done before.

You may be right about the future of Cruz & Hawley. Their voters will decide.

You're just jealous of MO because we've won so many World Series & the hunting, fishing, boating & water sports are so good, at a fraction of the bi-coastal cost of living.
Up yours Sailor. Last time I checked my favorite baseball team has 16 more World Series championships than the Cardinals.
Must be such a nice place that pro basketball and football could not be supported there after MULTIPLE tries.

Call me when you can sport fish for striped bass and tuna in Missouri. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Remember 1964 ?

My lax star niece just sent me a pic of her lax star hubby with the Stanley Cup.
His family is part of the ownership group. :mrgreen:
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:59 pm
Kismet wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:54 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:38 pm
Who cares what you require. Every member is entitled to their 5 min of debate to speak on behalf of the voters they represent. Members who disagree can take their 5 min, scold them & state their disagreement & why. That's the way these objections have always been done before.

You may be right about the future of Cruz & Hawley. Their voters will decide.

You're just jealous of MO because we've won so many World Series & the hunting, fishing, boating & water sports are so good, at a fraction of the bi-coastal cost of living.
Up yours Sailor. Last time I checked my favorite baseball team has 16 more World Series championships than the Cardinals.
Must be such a nice place that pro basketball and football could not be supported there after MULTIPLE tries.

Call me when you can sport fish for striped bass and tuna in Missouri. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
St. Louis Spirits made more money by not having an NBA team there!
So did the Blues. The NBA is afraid to compete.
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SCLaxAttack wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:55 am
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:30 am Looks like Nancy's going to rush through articles of impeachment then sit on them, at least until Biden has his first 100 days, get's his nominees confirmed, & diversifies the national covid vacc plan.

Maybe she can stretch it out until the 2022 campaign starts, just like she did last time.

More political theater.
Citation for the “then sit on them” portion of your comment, please.

I can understand why one train of thought would be to get the Biden administration agenda priority, but I agree postponement would show a lack of seriousness to the charge.

The probability of a guilty judgement is also reduced, as possible Republican senatorial support will fade; partly because of America’s penchant for having a short memory.
Clyburn & Manchen both said Pelosi could hold the articles of impeachment & not immediately forward them to the Senate.

They both mentioned Biden's nominees & first 100 days initiatives, including his vaccination plan.

Send your objection to Clyburn. Are you in his district ? I'm just reporting what they said.
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old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:00 pm
Kismet wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:54 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:38 pm
Who cares what you require. Every member is entitled to their 5 min of debate to speak on behalf of the voters they represent. Members who disagree can take their 5 min, scold them & state their disagreement & why. That's the way these objections have always been done before.

You may be right about the future of Cruz & Hawley. Their voters will decide.

You're just jealous of MO because we've won so many World Series & the hunting, fishing, boating & water sports are so good, at a fraction of the bi-coastal cost of living.
Up yours Sailor. Last time I checked my favorite baseball team has 16 more World Series championships than the Cardinals.
Must be such a nice place that pro basketball and football could not be supported there after MULTIPLE tries.

Call me when you can sport fish for striped bass and tuna in Missouri. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Remember 1964 ?

My lax star niece just sent me a pic of her lax star hubby with the Stanley Cup.
His family is part of the ownership group. :mrgreen:
Now this is the kind of back and forth and vitriol that I can get behind!

Our long time bar manager in Ann Arbor was Bob Forsch's daughter, OS......
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Some House Republicans are privately discussing whether to censure President Trump as a way to express their disapproval about the President's actions without going along with the Democratic effort to impeach him, according to several GOP sources.
You'd think impeachment and a ban from office would be a pretty effective censure. You know, #Constitution.

But a sternly worded letter is just as good. #movingon #unity

:roll:
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:05 am
ggait wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:02 am
Maybe she can stretch it out until the 2022 campaign starts, just like she did last time.

More political theater.
Pretty depressing that so many of the bitter end, lost causers who ate and continue to believe The Big Lie are (like Salty) veterans. The duty/honor/country types are a core demo of domestic terrorists.

I guess we learned this 25 years ago from Tim McVeigh, but we keep forgetting what some of the most dangerous people look like -- white guys with flags and a completely effed up view of what America and patriotism are all about. AG Garland must be having deja vu.
He believes White Nationalists should have a home in the US Military. We shouldn’t root them out.
Yeah. All military vets are latent insurrectionists. :roll:

So many cops are military vets, but just the bad ones, as claimed in this forum.

Compared to the '60's &'70's, you guys are weak sauce.
I was pelted with tomatoes the first time I wore my dress khakis on liberty.
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old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:00 pm
Kismet wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:54 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:38 pm
Who cares what you require. Every member is entitled to their 5 min of debate to speak on behalf of the voters they represent. Members who disagree can take their 5 min, scold them & state their disagreement & why. That's the way these objections have always been done before.

You may be right about the future of Cruz & Hawley. Their voters will decide.

You're just jealous of MO because we've won so many World Series & the hunting, fishing, boating & water sports are so good, at a fraction of the bi-coastal cost of living.
Up yours Sailor. Last time I checked my favorite baseball team has 16 more World Series championships than the Cardinals.
Must be such a nice place that pro basketball and football could not be supported there after MULTIPLE tries.

Call me when you can sport fish for striped bass and tuna in Missouri. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Remember 1964 ?

My lax star niece just sent me a pic of her lax star hubby with the Stanley Cup.
His family is part of the ownership group. :mrgreen:
I prefer 1928 (4-0) and 1943 (4-1). My favorite hockey team (which is not known for winning them) has three more Stanley Cups than the Blues.
You're still full of shirt. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:15 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:05 am
ggait wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:02 am
Maybe she can stretch it out until the 2022 campaign starts, just like she did last time.

More political theater.
Pretty depressing that so many of the bitter end, lost causers who ate and continue to believe The Big Lie are (like Salty) veterans. The duty/honor/country types are a core demo of domestic terrorists.

I guess we learned this 25 years ago from Tim McVeigh, but we keep forgetting what some of the most dangerous people look like -- white guys with flags and a completely effed up view of what America and patriotism are all about. AG Garland must be having deja vu.
He believes White Nationalists should have a home in the US Military. We shouldn’t root them out.
Yeah. All military vets are latent insurrectionists. :roll:

So many cops are military vets, but just the bad ones, as claimed in this forum.

Compared to the '60's &'70's, you guys are weak sauce.
I was pelted with tomatoes the first time I wore my dress khakis on liberty.
Bring it on. :lol:
No. YOU called them patriots.
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ggait wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:55 pm
That's the way these objections have always been done before.
Salty is correct. Exact same thing as in 2005:

1. John Kerry maintained for two months that he had won in a landslide.
2. John Kerry filed and lost 5 dozen lawsuits contesting the election.
3. John Kerry held a rally on the day the EC votes were opened in Congress and counted.
4. John Kerry incited his supporters to storm the Capital.
5. Kerry's supporters forced the counting to be suspended while members of Congress fled the chambers for their lives.
6. After several people died and the Capital was cleared by SWAT teams, the joint session resumed.
7. Then Senator Boxer decided it was appropriate to continue with her objection.

I don't see any material differences. Do you?
All irrelevant, like Gore's concession speech in 2000.
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