CNN Says 'White Men' are the Biggest Terror Threat in US

[Brooklyn]

seditious terrorism and treason

[6x6]

wow. I hope you don't get paint on yourself with that extremely broad brush.

Really? You think that image goes too far as a metaphor for what we saw this week, what we can see online, and what (hopefully) most of us don't bother to see on the dark web?

This faux outrage from tech is downright laughable.

What's been revealed this week is an ugly truth, the Trump cult is in large part undergirded by a white supremacist, fascist ideology, complete with the most radical such adherents.

The black and white flag is a representation of that dark truth, the peeling back the revealing of what's really underneath, hidden purposely to those who it has seduced.

To be clear, there are Trump cultists who do not understand this reality, they've been seduced into it with all sorts of blatant lies, with the ground prepared over numerous years. But that's what they now find themselves part of, and being revealed.

The question is what those who did not understand this reality do, will they break their fever and disassociate themselves from the lies and violent, fascist intent?

I do. The peeling back of the blue stripe suggests to me that police, signified by the blue stripe, in general are nazi sympathizers.

Were there some off duty police involved in the bs this week? Certainly. Should they be be held accountable? Certainly. To me the image paints all police in that manner, hence the broad brush comment.

I agree with you Bart. This visual indicates that either the police are Nazi's or that the police are revealing America is really Nazi behind the curtain. And unfortunately, the idiotic acts from a few, seem to make others not just paint with a broad brush but go straight to the paint sprayer, in order project and lump an entire party as the same.

See immediately above. The revealing is of the truth of the Trump cult. And yes, part of the police is complicit and involved in that cult.

But it is not indictment of ALL police, or police "in general" or "an entire party". That said, those who continue to provide air cover for the cultists, the white supremacist fascists, are complicit in their evil.

It's time for all of us to stop covering for the worst bad actors, and certainly time for the police to clean them out. Police unions being a huge problem.

Would your thoughts here also apply to the BLM organization?

Which thoughts?

Are you trying to draw a comparison between BLM and the Trump cult or is it with the police unions covering for their worst actors?

I don't see the connection you're suggesting.

If you are saying that rioters and looters and vandals during or around protests about another police shooting of an unarmed black person, I've been 100% consistent with saying that lawbreakers should be prosecuted as such.

I may draw a distinction between the the justifiability of the underlying protests, a distinction between violence and destruction of private or even police property and violence and the destruction of the Capital property in the attempted insurrection to overturn the US government, and a distinction between BLM and groups like the Proud Boys, Boogaloo Bois, QAnon, etc, but I don't excuse unlawful acts by any.

No I wasn’t trying to make a comparison between the BLM and the insurrection at the capitol. I agree with your distinction between BLM and the groups mentioned. Yet are there “no bad actors” with a more radical view involved with BLM?. I was wondering if you had similar thoughts that all of us should stop covering for the worst bad actors of the BLM. That the BLM leaders and followers cover for the worst of their organization and should they not weed them out?

[foreverlax]

What's been revealed this week is an ugly truth, the Trump cult is in large part undergirded by a white supremacist, fascist ideology, complete with the most radical such adherents.

The black and white flag is a representation of that dark truth, the peeling back the revealing of what's really underneath, hidden purposely to those who it has seduced.

To be clear, there are Trump cultists who do not understand this reality, they've been seduced into it with all sorts of blatant lies, with the ground prepared over numerous years. But that's what they now find themselves part of, and being revealed.

The question is what those who did not understand this reality do, will they break their fever and disassociate themselves from the lies and violent, fascist intent?

Beware of those subliminal Nazi messages. They're all around us.

And yet, you don't seem to see them..worse, you make another of your failed attempts at humor.

[Typical Lax Dad]

What's been revealed this week is an ugly truth, the Trump cult is in large part undergirded by a white supremacist, fascist ideology, complete with the most radical such adherents.

The black and white flag is a representation of that dark truth, the peeling back the revealing of what's really underneath, hidden purposely to those who it has seduced.

To be clear, there are Trump cultists who do not understand this reality, they've been seduced into it with all sorts of blatant lies, with the ground prepared over numerous years. But that's what they now find themselves part of, and being revealed.

The question is what those who did not understand this reality do, will they break their fever and disassociate themselves from the lies and violent, fascist intent?

Beware of those subliminal Nazi messages. They're all around us.

And yet, you don't seem to see them..worse, you make another of your failed attempts at humor.

What did I tell you about that dude.

[old salt]

What's been revealed this week is an ugly truth, the Trump cult is in large part undergirded by a white supremacist, fascist ideology, complete with the most radical such adherents.

The black and white flag is a representation of that dark truth, the peeling back the revealing of what's really underneath, hidden purposely to those who it has seduced.

To be clear, there are Trump cultists who do not understand this reality, they've been seduced into it with all sorts of blatant lies, with the ground prepared over numerous years. But that's what they now find themselves part of, and being revealed.

The question is what those who did not understand this reality do, will they break their fever and disassociate themselves from the lies and violent, fascist intent?

Beware of those subliminal Nazi messages. They're all around us.

And yet, you don't seem to see them..worse, you make another of your failed attempts at humor.

What did I tell you about that dude.

My Old Testament sensibilities were offended.

[Typical Lax Dad]

What's been revealed this week is an ugly truth, the Trump cult is in large part undergirded by a white supremacist, fascist ideology, complete with the most radical such adherents.

The black and white flag is a representation of that dark truth, the peeling back the revealing of what's really underneath, hidden purposely to those who it has seduced.

To be clear, there are Trump cultists who do not understand this reality, they've been seduced into it with all sorts of blatant lies, with the ground prepared over numerous years. But that's what they now find themselves part of, and being revealed.

The question is what those who did not understand this reality do, will they break their fever and disassociate themselves from the lies and violent, fascist intent?

Beware of those subliminal Nazi messages. They're all around us.

And yet, you don't seem to see them..worse, you make another of your failed attempts at humor.

What did I tell you about that dude.

My Old Testament sensibilities were offended.

[MDlaxfan76]

wow. I hope you don't get paint on yourself with that extremely broad brush.

Really? You think that image goes too far as a metaphor for what we saw this week, what we can see online, and what (hopefully) most of us don't bother to see on the dark web?

This faux outrage from tech is downright laughable.

What's been revealed this week is an ugly truth, the Trump cult is in large part undergirded by a white supremacist, fascist ideology, complete with the most radical such adherents.

The black and white flag is a representation of that dark truth, the peeling back the revealing of what's really underneath, hidden purposely to those who it has seduced.

To be clear, there are Trump cultists who do not understand this reality, they've been seduced into it with all sorts of blatant lies, with the ground prepared over numerous years. But that's what they now find themselves part of, and being revealed.

The question is what those who did not understand this reality do, will they break their fever and disassociate themselves from the lies and violent, fascist intent?

I do. The peeling back of the blue stripe suggests to me that police, signified by the blue stripe, in general are nazi sympathizers.

Were there some off duty police involved in the bs this week? Certainly. Should they be be held accountable? Certainly. To me the image paints all police in that manner, hence the broad brush comment.

Perhaps you can explain to me the genesis of a flag that's black and white with a blue line. Is this a symbol of the Trump cult variety or is it an image promoted by Antifa or BLM etc? I am under the impression that it's the former.

Assuming the blue line is intended to represent the police, I don't think that the peeling back of that line or any other to reveal what's underneath all of the lines necessarily means ALL police or "in general" are white supremacist fascists. Just the Trump cult adherents.

But I may be mistaken. Don't think so: https://www.themarshallproject.org/2020 ... rican-flag

From the article you linked:

Those who fly the flag have said it stands for solidarity and professional pride within a dangerous, difficult profession and a solemn tribute to fallen police officers.

That is the truth regarding the flag's origin and intention and why, IMO, the posted bastardized version is a lie. The flag is also a symbolic foil to the absurd notion of defund and/or abolish the police. Reform is in no doubt needed and I am quite sure the vast majority of cops would agree with that.

In the originator's own words:

Now, Jacob is the president of Thin Blue Line USA, one of the largest online retailers devoted exclusively to sales of pro-police flags,
T-shirts, neckwear and jewelry. “The flag has no association with racism, hatred, bigotry,” he said. “It’s a flag to show support for law enforcement—no politics involved.”

I would bet thousands of black and brown (unfortunately I need to be specific here) policemen and policewomen would disagree with your hyper-sensitive and distorted interpretation of their flag.

“When I see that flag as a sticker on a car or flying in someone’s yard, I know that there is someone there that knows what I’m going through. They know because they are a part of the family,” Bishopp said. “I don’t really care if it bothers people or hurts their feelings to see that flag. I absolutely could care less. I am proud of what I do, the people I work with, and the ones who have died defending the rights of strangers. I will continue to fly that flag until my very last day.”

Well said.

And of course I never mentioned anything "Trump" regarding the flag... you on the other hand can't seem to help yourself. Your continuing compulsive need to define anything and everything as Trump-related and racist is sad. Almost feel sorry for you...

Funny...you have selected only the positive connotation excerpts...what it also says is "Those who fly the flag have said it stands for solidarity and professional pride within a dangerous, difficult profession and a solemn tribute to fallen police officers. But it has also been flown by white supremacists, appearing next to Confederate flags at the 2017 ‘Unite the Right’ rally in Charlottesville, Virginia."

And other examples of its usage by these a-holes.

And it detailed the troubled history of the phrase and concept of "thin blue line".

Again, blame the white supremacists for having adopted it as an counter to BLM, not me. Blame those in history who originated and developed the phrase and the attitude it represents towards blacks in specific, not me.

This is not a matter of hypersensitivity, it's a matter of who has used it and why. The particular meme is a commentary of what is revealed in such usage.

BTW, 2 hours ago:
2 Virginia police officers are on administrative leave after attending event at Capitol last Wednesday
From CNN's Chuck Johnston
Two Rocky Mount, Virginia, police officers are on administrative leave after attending an event in Washington, DC, last Wednesday, according to the Rocky Mount Police Department.

The two off-duty officers were present at an event in DC on Wednesday, a statement the department released on Sunday said.

“The Town of Rocky Mount fully supports all lawful expressions of freedom of speech and assembly by its employees but does not condone the unlawful acts that occurred that day. Based on the available information, the Police Department has notified federal authorities and the individuals that were present at the event are on administrative leave pending review.”
Rocky Mount is located about 25 miles south of Roanoke, Virginia.

On Friday night, the Seattle Police Department had placed at least two officers on administrative leave while officials investigate whether they took part in Wednesday's deadly riot at the US Capitol in Washington, DC, the department's chief, Adrian Diaz, said in a statement.


I suspect there will be more.
Painful reality. Yes, bad apples...they need to go.

[MDlaxfan76]

wow. I hope you don't get paint on yourself with that extremely broad brush.

Really? You think that image goes too far as a metaphor for what we saw this week, what we can see online, and what (hopefully) most of us don't bother to see on the dark web?

This faux outrage from tech is downright laughable.

What's been revealed this week is an ugly truth, the Trump cult is in large part undergirded by a white supremacist, fascist ideology, complete with the most radical such adherents.

The black and white flag is a representation of that dark truth, the peeling back the revealing of what's really underneath, hidden purposely to those who it has seduced.

To be clear, there are Trump cultists who do not understand this reality, they've been seduced into it with all sorts of blatant lies, with the ground prepared over numerous years. But that's what they now find themselves part of, and being revealed.

The question is what those who did not understand this reality do, will they break their fever and disassociate themselves from the lies and violent, fascist intent?

I do. The peeling back of the blue stripe suggests to me that police, signified by the blue stripe, in general are nazi sympathizers.

Were there some off duty police involved in the bs this week? Certainly. Should they be be held accountable? Certainly. To me the image paints all police in that manner, hence the broad brush comment.

I agree with you Bart. This visual indicates that either the police are Nazi's or that the police are revealing America is really Nazi behind the curtain. And unfortunately, the idiotic acts from a few, seem to make others not just paint with a broad brush but go straight to the paint sprayer, in order project and lump an entire party as the same.

See immediately above. The revealing is of the truth of the Trump cult. And yes, part of the police is complicit and involved in that cult.

But it is not indictment of ALL police, or police "in general" or "an entire party". That said, those who continue to provide air cover for the cultists, the white supremacist fascists, are complicit in their evil.

It's time for all of us to stop covering for the worst bad actors, and certainly time for the police to clean them out. Police unions being a huge problem.

Would your thoughts here also apply to the BLM organization?

Which thoughts?

Are you trying to draw a comparison between BLM and the Trump cult or is it with the police unions covering for their worst actors?

I don't see the connection you're suggesting.

If you are saying that rioters and looters and vandals during or around protests about another police shooting of an unarmed black person, I've been 100% consistent with saying that lawbreakers should be prosecuted as such.

I may draw a distinction between the the justifiability of the underlying protests, a distinction between violence and destruction of private or even police property and violence and the destruction of the Capital property in the attempted insurrection to overturn the US government, and a distinction between BLM and groups like the Proud Boys, Boogaloo Bois, QAnon, etc, but I don't excuse unlawful acts by any.

No I wasn’t trying to make a comparison between the BLM and the insurrection at the capitol. I agree with your distinction between BLM and the groups mentioned. Yet are there “no bad actors” with a more radical view involved with BLM?. I was wondering if you had similar thoughts that all of us should stop covering for the worst bad actors of the BLM. That the BLM leaders and followers cover for the worst of their organization and should they not weed them out?

Are there any bad actors involved with BLM???
Of course. It's a very loose organization.

But this is the Trump cult.
It's rotten to its core, though surely the most rotten apples have infected many barrels of other apples, many of which would never have been turned had their not been such incessant misinformation and hate mongering from certain media sources, and from Trump himself as the biggest such focus for it.

[Typical Lax Dad]

wow. I hope you don't get paint on yourself with that extremely broad brush.

Really? You think that image goes too far as a metaphor for what we saw this week, what we can see online, and what (hopefully) most of us don't bother to see on the dark web?

This faux outrage from tech is downright laughable.

What's been revealed this week is an ugly truth, the Trump cult is in large part undergirded by a white supremacist, fascist ideology, complete with the most radical such adherents.

The black and white flag is a representation of that dark truth, the peeling back the revealing of what's really underneath, hidden purposely to those who it has seduced.

To be clear, there are Trump cultists who do not understand this reality, they've been seduced into it with all sorts of blatant lies, with the ground prepared over numerous years. But that's what they now find themselves part of, and being revealed.

The question is what those who did not understand this reality do, will they break their fever and disassociate themselves from the lies and violent, fascist intent?

I do. The peeling back of the blue stripe suggests to me that police, signified by the blue stripe, in general are nazi sympathizers.

Were there some off duty police involved in the bs this week? Certainly. Should they be be held accountable? Certainly. To me the image paints all police in that manner, hence the broad brush comment.

Perhaps you can explain to me the genesis of a flag that's black and white with a blue line. Is this a symbol of the Trump cult variety or is it an image promoted by Antifa or BLM etc? I am under the impression that it's the former.

Assuming the blue line is intended to represent the police, I don't think that the peeling back of that line or any other to reveal what's underneath all of the lines necessarily means ALL police or "in general" are white supremacist fascists. Just the Trump cult adherents.

But I may be mistaken. Don't think so: https://www.themarshallproject.org/2020 ... rican-flag

From the article you linked:

Those who fly the flag have said it stands for solidarity and professional pride within a dangerous, difficult profession and a solemn tribute to fallen police officers.

That is the truth regarding the flag's origin and intention and why, IMO, the posted bastardized version is a lie. The flag is also a symbolic foil to the absurd notion of defund and/or abolish the police. Reform is in no doubt needed and I am quite sure the vast majority of cops would agree with that.

In the originator's own words:

Now, Jacob is the president of Thin Blue Line USA, one of the largest online retailers devoted exclusively to sales of pro-police flags,
T-shirts, neckwear and jewelry. “The flag has no association with racism, hatred, bigotry,” he said. “It’s a flag to show support for law enforcement—no politics involved.”

I would bet thousands of black and brown (unfortunately I need to be specific here) policemen and policewomen would disagree with your hyper-sensitive and distorted interpretation of their flag.

“When I see that flag as a sticker on a car or flying in someone’s yard, I know that there is someone there that knows what I’m going through. They know because they are a part of the family,” Bishopp said. “I don’t really care if it bothers people or hurts their feelings to see that flag. I absolutely could care less. I am proud of what I do, the people I work with, and the ones who have died defending the rights of strangers. I will continue to fly that flag until my very last day.”

Well said.

And of course I never mentioned anything "Trump" regarding the flag... you on the other hand can't seem to help yourself. Your continuing compulsive need to define anything and everything as Trump-related and racist is sad. Almost feel sorry for you...

Funny...you have selected only the positive connotation excerpts...what it also says is "Those who fly the flag have said it stands for solidarity and professional pride within a dangerous, difficult profession and a solemn tribute to fallen police officers. But it has also been flown by white supremacists, appearing next to Confederate flags at the 2017 ‘Unite the Right’ rally in Charlottesville, Virginia."

And other examples of its usage by these a-holes.

And it detailed the troubled history of the phrase and concept of "thin blue line".

Again, blame the white supremacists for having adopted it as an counter to BLM, not me. Blame those in history who originated and developed the phrase and the attitude it represents towards blacks in specific, not me.

This is not a matter of hypersensitivity, it's a matter of who has used it and why. The particular meme is a commentary of what is revealed in such usage.

BTW, 2 hours ago:
2 Virginia police officers are on administrative leave after attending event at Capitol last Wednesday
From CNN's Chuck Johnston
Two Rocky Mount, Virginia, police officers are on administrative leave after attending an event in Washington, DC, last Wednesday, according to the Rocky Mount Police Department.

The two off-duty officers were present at an event in DC on Wednesday, a statement the department released on Sunday said.

“The Town of Rocky Mount fully supports all lawful expressions of freedom of speech and assembly by its employees but does not condone the unlawful acts that occurred that day. Based on the available information, the Police Department has notified federal authorities and the individuals that were present at the event are on administrative leave pending review.”
Rocky Mount is located about 25 miles south of Roanoke, Virginia.

On Friday night, the Seattle Police Department had placed at least two officers on administrative leave while officials investigate whether they took part in Wednesday's deadly riot at the US Capitol in Washington, DC, the department's chief, Adrian Diaz, said in a statement.


I suspect there will be more.
Painful reality. Yes, bad apples...they need to go.

Buh Bye.... I am going to ask a friend of mine that’s a cop in a hayseed town about the atmosphere since Biden won. He said after Trump won, his law enforcement colleagues said things they never would have before..... it was like, the chains are off.

[holmes435]

Beware of those subliminal Nazi messages. They're all around us.

Also beware the supraliminal Nazi messages. At least at the Capitol riot.





6MWE = "6 Million Wasn't Enough"

[MDlaxfan76]

wow. I hope you don't get paint on yourself with that extremely broad brush.

Really? You think that image goes too far as a metaphor for what we saw this week, what we can see online, and what (hopefully) most of us don't bother to see on the dark web?

This faux outrage from tech is downright laughable.

What's been revealed this week is an ugly truth, the Trump cult is in large part undergirded by a white supremacist, fascist ideology, complete with the most radical such adherents.

The black and white flag is a representation of that dark truth, the peeling back the revealing of what's really underneath, hidden purposely to those who it has seduced.

To be clear, there are Trump cultists who do not understand this reality, they've been seduced into it with all sorts of blatant lies, with the ground prepared over numerous years. But that's what they now find themselves part of, and being revealed.

The question is what those who did not understand this reality do, will they break their fever and disassociate themselves from the lies and violent, fascist intent?

I do. The peeling back of the blue stripe suggests to me that police, signified by the blue stripe, in general are nazi sympathizers.

Were there some off duty police involved in the bs this week? Certainly. Should they be be held accountable? Certainly. To me the image paints all police in that manner, hence the broad brush comment.

Perhaps you can explain to me the genesis of a flag that's black and white with a blue line. Is this a symbol of the Trump cult variety or is it an image promoted by Antifa or BLM etc? I am under the impression that it's the former.

Assuming the blue line is intended to represent the police, I don't think that the peeling back of that line or any other to reveal what's underneath all of the lines necessarily means ALL police or "in general" are white supremacist fascists. Just the Trump cult adherents.

But I may be mistaken. Don't think so: https://www.themarshallproject.org/2020 ... rican-flag

From the article you linked:

Those who fly the flag have said it stands for solidarity and professional pride within a dangerous, difficult profession and a solemn tribute to fallen police officers.

That is the truth regarding the flag's origin and intention and why, IMO, the posted bastardized version is a lie. The flag is also a symbolic foil to the absurd notion of defund and/or abolish the police. Reform is in no doubt needed and I am quite sure the vast majority of cops would agree with that.

In the originator's own words:

Now, Jacob is the president of Thin Blue Line USA, one of the largest online retailers devoted exclusively to sales of pro-police flags,
T-shirts, neckwear and jewelry. “The flag has no association with racism, hatred, bigotry,” he said. “It’s a flag to show support for law enforcement—no politics involved.”

I would bet thousands of black and brown (unfortunately I need to be specific here) policemen and policewomen would disagree with your hyper-sensitive and distorted interpretation of their flag.

“When I see that flag as a sticker on a car or flying in someone’s yard, I know that there is someone there that knows what I’m going through. They know because they are a part of the family,” Bishopp said. “I don’t really care if it bothers people or hurts their feelings to see that flag. I absolutely could care less. I am proud of what I do, the people I work with, and the ones who have died defending the rights of strangers. I will continue to fly that flag until my very last day.”

Well said.

And of course I never mentioned anything "Trump" regarding the flag... you on the other hand can't seem to help yourself. Your continuing compulsive need to define anything and everything as Trump-related and racist is sad. Almost feel sorry for you...

Funny...you have selected only the positive connotation excerpts...what it also says is "Those who fly the flag have said it stands for solidarity and professional pride within a dangerous, difficult profession and a solemn tribute to fallen police officers. But it has also been flown by white supremacists, appearing next to Confederate flags at the 2017 ‘Unite the Right’ rally in Charlottesville, Virginia."

And other examples of its usage by these a-holes.

And it detailed the troubled history of the phrase and concept of "thin blue line".

Again, blame the white supremacists for having adopted it as an counter to BLM, not me. Blame those in history who originated and developed the phrase and the attitude it represents towards blacks in specific, not me.

This is not a matter of hypersensitivity, it's a matter of who has used it and why. The particular meme is a commentary of what is revealed in such usage.

BTW, 2 hours ago:
2 Virginia police officers are on administrative leave after attending event at Capitol last Wednesday
From CNN's Chuck Johnston
Two Rocky Mount, Virginia, police officers are on administrative leave after attending an event in Washington, DC, last Wednesday, according to the Rocky Mount Police Department.

The two off-duty officers were present at an event in DC on Wednesday, a statement the department released on Sunday said.

“The Town of Rocky Mount fully supports all lawful expressions of freedom of speech and assembly by its employees but does not condone the unlawful acts that occurred that day. Based on the available information, the Police Department has notified federal authorities and the individuals that were present at the event are on administrative leave pending review.”
Rocky Mount is located about 25 miles south of Roanoke, Virginia.

On Friday night, the Seattle Police Department had placed at least two officers on administrative leave while officials investigate whether they took part in Wednesday's deadly riot at the US Capitol in Washington, DC, the department's chief, Adrian Diaz, said in a statement.


I suspect there will be more.
Painful reality. Yes, bad apples...they need to go.

Buh Bye.... I am going to ask a friend of mine that’s a cop in a hayseed town about the atmosphere since Biden won. He said after Trump won, his law enforcement colleagues said things they never would have before..... it was like, the chains are off.

Terry Bouton
@TerryBoutonHist
·
2h
And the crowd reviled them for it. They booed the police and FBI swat team, calling them traitors and murderers. A man on the back Capitol steps ripped up a Thin Blue Line flag, the torn stripes fluttering down over a crowd briefly chanting “heck the police.” 15/22
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[tech37]

wow. I hope you don't get paint on yourself with that extremely broad brush.

Really? You think that image goes too far as a metaphor for what we saw this week, what we can see online, and what (hopefully) most of us don't bother to see on the dark web?

This faux outrage from tech is downright laughable.

What's been revealed this week is an ugly truth, the Trump cult is in large part undergirded by a white supremacist, fascist ideology, complete with the most radical such adherents.

The black and white flag is a representation of that dark truth, the peeling back the revealing of what's really underneath, hidden purposely to those who it has seduced.

To be clear, there are Trump cultists who do not understand this reality, they've been seduced into it with all sorts of blatant lies, with the ground prepared over numerous years. But that's what they now find themselves part of, and being revealed.

The question is what those who did not understand this reality do, will they break their fever and disassociate themselves from the lies and violent, fascist intent?

I do. The peeling back of the blue stripe suggests to me that police, signified by the blue stripe, in general are nazi sympathizers.

Were there some off duty police involved in the bs this week? Certainly. Should they be be held accountable? Certainly. To me the image paints all police in that manner, hence the broad brush comment.

Perhaps you can explain to me the genesis of a flag that's black and white with a blue line. Is this a symbol of the Trump cult variety or is it an image promoted by Antifa or BLM etc? I am under the impression that it's the former.

Assuming the blue line is intended to represent the police, I don't think that the peeling back of that line or any other to reveal what's underneath all of the lines necessarily means ALL police or "in general" are white supremacist fascists. Just the Trump cult adherents.

But I may be mistaken. Don't think so: https://www.themarshallproject.org/2020 ... rican-flag

From the article you linked:

Those who fly the flag have said it stands for solidarity and professional pride within a dangerous, difficult profession and a solemn tribute to fallen police officers.

That is the truth regarding the flag's origin and intention and why, IMO, the posted bastardized version is a lie. The flag is also a symbolic foil to the absurd notion of defund and/or abolish the police. Reform is in no doubt needed and I am quite sure the vast majority of cops would agree with that.

In the originator's own words:

Now, Jacob is the president of Thin Blue Line USA, one of the largest online retailers devoted exclusively to sales of pro-police flags,
T-shirts, neckwear and jewelry. “The flag has no association with racism, hatred, bigotry,” he said. “It’s a flag to show support for law enforcement—no politics involved.”

I would bet thousands of black and brown (unfortunately I need to be specific here) policemen and policewomen would disagree with your hyper-sensitive and distorted interpretation of their flag.

“When I see that flag as a sticker on a car or flying in someone’s yard, I know that there is someone there that knows what I’m going through. They know because they are a part of the family,” Bishopp said. “I don’t really care if it bothers people or hurts their feelings to see that flag. I absolutely could care less. I am proud of what I do, the people I work with, and the ones who have died defending the rights of strangers. I will continue to fly that flag until my very last day.”

Well said.

And of course I never mentioned anything "Trump" regarding the flag... you on the other hand can't seem to help yourself. Your continuing compulsive need to define anything and everything as Trump-related and racist is sad. Almost feel sorry for you...

Funny...you have selected only the positive connotation excerpts...what it also says is "Those who fly the flag have said it stands for solidarity and professional pride within a dangerous, difficult profession and a solemn tribute to fallen police officers. But it has also been flown by white supremacists, appearing next to Confederate flags at the 2017 ‘Unite the Right’ rally in Charlottesville, Virginia."
Funny? To you perhaps... Obviously I chose sections of the article you posted that are accurate to the truthful origin and intention of the flag. My initial point. Why would I include sections that fall into areas of assumption/conjecture? That's your narrative not mine.

And other examples of its usage by these a-holes.
So it seems that a minority of "a-holes" have coopted/hijacked the flag? Perhaps. But instead of recognizing the minority of
a-holes for what they are (this is where accurate, honest reporting is imperative), your typical impulsive reaction is to cry, Trumpist!, racist!, Nazi!, alleging that anyone, including the well-intentioned majority of those who fly the flag, as evil. Seems pretty prejudicial to me.

And it detailed the troubled history of the phrase and concept of "thin blue line".
An easy connection to make or conclusion to draw for anyone with imagination and motive.

Again, blame the white supremacists for having adopted it as an counter to BLM, not me. Blame those in history who originated and developed the phrase and the attitude it represents towards blacks in specific, not me.
History?... history that may not apply to this day and age but can easily be contrived to support motivation/narrative?

And again, what specific blacks are you referring to? The thousands who happen to be in law enforcement and/or whose family members wish to fly the flag in support, the initial and accurate intention of the symbol?

This is not a matter of hypersensitivity, it's a matter of who has used it and why. The particular meme is a commentary of what is revealed in such usage.
So what to do MD? Do you plan to stand with the "woke mob" and ban the flag?... a ban based on a minority of a-holes who have utilized it for the false reasons, or based on a cherry-picking, deceitful media whose agenda is to further divide the country?

BTW, 2 hours ago:
2 Virginia police officers are on administrative leave after attending event at Capitol last Wednesday
From CNN's Chuck Johnston
Two Rocky Mount, Virginia, police officers are on administrative leave after attending an event in Washington, DC, last Wednesday, according to the Rocky Mount Police Department.

The two off-duty officers were present at an event in DC on Wednesday, a statement the department released on Sunday said.

“The Town of Rocky Mount fully supports all lawful expressions of freedom of speech and assembly by its employees but does not condone the unlawful acts that occurred that day. Based on the available information, the Police Department has notified federal authorities and the individuals that were present at the event are on administrative leave pending review.”
Rocky Mount is located about 25 miles south of Roanoke, Virginia.

On Friday night, the Seattle Police Department had placed at least two officers on administrative leave while officials investigate whether they took part in Wednesday's deadly riot at the US Capitol in Washington, DC, the department's chief, Adrian Diaz, said in a statement.


I suspect there will be more.
Painful reality. Yes, bad apples...they need to go.

[jhu72]

wow. I hope you don't get paint on yourself with that extremely broad brush.

Really? You think that image goes too far as a metaphor for what we saw this week, what we can see online, and what (hopefully) most of us don't bother to see on the dark web?

This faux outrage from tech is downright laughable.

What's been revealed this week is an ugly truth, the Trump cult is in large part undergirded by a white supremacist, fascist ideology, complete with the most radical such adherents.

The black and white flag is a representation of that dark truth, the peeling back the revealing of what's really underneath, hidden purposely to those who it has seduced.

To be clear, there are Trump cultists who do not understand this reality, they've been seduced into it with all sorts of blatant lies, with the ground prepared over numerous years. But that's what they now find themselves part of, and being revealed.

The question is what those who did not understand this reality do, will they break their fever and disassociate themselves from the lies and violent, fascist intent?

I do. The peeling back of the blue stripe suggests to me that police, signified by the blue stripe, in general are nazi sympathizers.

Were there some off duty police involved in the bs this week? Certainly. Should they be be held accountable? Certainly. To me the image paints all police in that manner, hence the broad brush comment.

Perhaps you can explain to me the genesis of a flag that's black and white with a blue line. Is this a symbol of the Trump cult variety or is it an image promoted by Antifa or BLM etc? I am under the impression that it's the former.

Assuming the blue line is intended to represent the police, I don't think that the peeling back of that line or any other to reveal what's underneath all of the lines necessarily means ALL police or "in general" are white supremacist fascists. Just the Trump cult adherents.

But I may be mistaken. Don't think so: https://www.themarshallproject.org/2020 ... rican-flag

From the article you linked:

Those who fly the flag have said it stands for solidarity and professional pride within a dangerous, difficult profession and a solemn tribute to fallen police officers.

That is the truth regarding the flag's origin and intention and why, IMO, the posted bastardized version is a lie. The flag is also a symbolic foil to the absurd notion of defund and/or abolish the police. Reform is in no doubt needed and I am quite sure the vast majority of cops would agree with that.

In the originator's own words:

Now, Jacob is the president of Thin Blue Line USA, one of the largest online retailers devoted exclusively to sales of pro-police flags,
T-shirts, neckwear and jewelry. “The flag has no association with racism, hatred, bigotry,” he said. “It’s a flag to show support for law enforcement—no politics involved.”

I would bet thousands of black and brown (unfortunately I need to be specific here) policemen and policewomen would disagree with your hyper-sensitive and distorted interpretation of their flag.

“When I see that flag as a sticker on a car or flying in someone’s yard, I know that there is someone there that knows what I’m going through. They know because they are a part of the family,” Bishopp said. “I don’t really care if it bothers people or hurts their feelings to see that flag. I absolutely could care less. I am proud of what I do, the people I work with, and the ones who have died defending the rights of strangers. I will continue to fly that flag until my very last day.”

Well said.

And of course I never mentioned anything "Trump" regarding the flag... you on the other hand can't seem to help yourself. Your continuing compulsive need to define anything and everything as Trump-related and racist is sad. Almost feel sorry for you...

Funny...you have selected only the positive connotation excerpts...what it also says is "Those who fly the flag have said it stands for solidarity and professional pride within a dangerous, difficult profession and a solemn tribute to fallen police officers. But it has also been flown by white supremacists, appearing next to Confederate flags at the 2017 ‘Unite the Right’ rally in Charlottesville, Virginia."

And other examples of its usage by these a-holes.

And it detailed the troubled history of the phrase and concept of "thin blue line".

Again, blame the white supremacists for having adopted it as an counter to BLM, not me. Blame those in history who originated and developed the phrase and the attitude it represents towards blacks in specific, not me.

This is not a matter of hypersensitivity, it's a matter of who has used it and why. The particular meme is a commentary of what is revealed in such usage.

BTW, 2 hours ago:
2 Virginia police officers are on administrative leave after attending event at Capitol last Wednesday
From CNN's Chuck Johnston
Two Rocky Mount, Virginia, police officers are on administrative leave after attending an event in Washington, DC, last Wednesday, according to the Rocky Mount Police Department.

The two off-duty officers were present at an event in DC on Wednesday, a statement the department released on Sunday said.

“The Town of Rocky Mount fully supports all lawful expressions of freedom of speech and assembly by its employees but does not condone the unlawful acts that occurred that day. Based on the available information, the Police Department has notified federal authorities and the individuals that were present at the event are on administrative leave pending review.”
Rocky Mount is located about 25 miles south of Roanoke, Virginia.

On Friday night, the Seattle Police Department had placed at least two officers on administrative leave while officials investigate whether they took part in Wednesday's deadly riot at the US Capitol in Washington, DC, the department's chief, Adrian Diaz, said in a statement.


I suspect there will be more.
Painful reality. Yes, bad apples...they need to go.

Buh Bye.... I am going to ask a friend of mine that’s a cop in a hayseed town about the atmosphere since Biden won. He said after Trump won, his law enforcement colleagues said things they never would have before..... it was like, the chains are off.

This was immediately noticeable all over the country, the day Trump won the election. It wasn't just "hayseed country". The racists came out of the woodwork everywhere. Anyone who thinks this event in Washington and Trumpism in general are not inextricably wound up in American racism is a FOOL! I doubt the shithouse rats will be driven back into the shithouse so easily by a non-racist president. Force will have to be applied. The battle will have to be taken to their own front yards. Innocent people will suffer as a result.

[Typical Lax Dad]

wow. I hope you don't get paint on yourself with that extremely broad brush.

Really? You think that image goes too far as a metaphor for what we saw this week, what we can see online, and what (hopefully) most of us don't bother to see on the dark web?

This faux outrage from tech is downright laughable.

What's been revealed this week is an ugly truth, the Trump cult is in large part undergirded by a white supremacist, fascist ideology, complete with the most radical such adherents.

The black and white flag is a representation of that dark truth, the peeling back the revealing of what's really underneath, hidden purposely to those who it has seduced.

To be clear, there are Trump cultists who do not understand this reality, they've been seduced into it with all sorts of blatant lies, with the ground prepared over numerous years. But that's what they now find themselves part of, and being revealed.

The question is what those who did not understand this reality do, will they break their fever and disassociate themselves from the lies and violent, fascist intent?

I do. The peeling back of the blue stripe suggests to me that police, signified by the blue stripe, in general are nazi sympathizers.

Were there some off duty police involved in the bs this week? Certainly. Should they be be held accountable? Certainly. To me the image paints all police in that manner, hence the broad brush comment.

Perhaps you can explain to me the genesis of a flag that's black and white with a blue line. Is this a symbol of the Trump cult variety or is it an image promoted by Antifa or BLM etc? I am under the impression that it's the former.

Assuming the blue line is intended to represent the police, I don't think that the peeling back of that line or any other to reveal what's underneath all of the lines necessarily means ALL police or "in general" are white supremacist fascists. Just the Trump cult adherents.

But I may be mistaken. Don't think so: https://www.themarshallproject.org/2020 ... rican-flag

From the article you linked:

Those who fly the flag have said it stands for solidarity and professional pride within a dangerous, difficult profession and a solemn tribute to fallen police officers.

That is the truth regarding the flag's origin and intention and why, IMO, the posted bastardized version is a lie. The flag is also a symbolic foil to the absurd notion of defund and/or abolish the police. Reform is in no doubt needed and I am quite sure the vast majority of cops would agree with that.

In the originator's own words:

Now, Jacob is the president of Thin Blue Line USA, one of the largest online retailers devoted exclusively to sales of pro-police flags,
T-shirts, neckwear and jewelry. “The flag has no association with racism, hatred, bigotry,” he said. “It’s a flag to show support for law enforcement—no politics involved.”

I would bet thousands of black and brown (unfortunately I need to be specific here) policemen and policewomen would disagree with your hyper-sensitive and distorted interpretation of their flag.

“When I see that flag as a sticker on a car or flying in someone’s yard, I know that there is someone there that knows what I’m going through. They know because they are a part of the family,” Bishopp said. “I don’t really care if it bothers people or hurts their feelings to see that flag. I absolutely could care less. I am proud of what I do, the people I work with, and the ones who have died defending the rights of strangers. I will continue to fly that flag until my very last day.”

Well said.

And of course I never mentioned anything "Trump" regarding the flag... you on the other hand can't seem to help yourself. Your continuing compulsive need to define anything and everything as Trump-related and racist is sad. Almost feel sorry for you...

Funny...you have selected only the positive connotation excerpts...what it also says is "Those who fly the flag have said it stands for solidarity and professional pride within a dangerous, difficult profession and a solemn tribute to fallen police officers. But it has also been flown by white supremacists, appearing next to Confederate flags at the 2017 ‘Unite the Right’ rally in Charlottesville, Virginia."

And other examples of its usage by these a-holes.

And it detailed the troubled history of the phrase and concept of "thin blue line".

Again, blame the white supremacists for having adopted it as an counter to BLM, not me. Blame those in history who originated and developed the phrase and the attitude it represents towards blacks in specific, not me.

This is not a matter of hypersensitivity, it's a matter of who has used it and why. The particular meme is a commentary of what is revealed in such usage.

BTW, 2 hours ago:
2 Virginia police officers are on administrative leave after attending event at Capitol last Wednesday
From CNN's Chuck Johnston
Two Rocky Mount, Virginia, police officers are on administrative leave after attending an event in Washington, DC, last Wednesday, according to the Rocky Mount Police Department.

The two off-duty officers were present at an event in DC on Wednesday, a statement the department released on Sunday said.

“The Town of Rocky Mount fully supports all lawful expressions of freedom of speech and assembly by its employees but does not condone the unlawful acts that occurred that day. Based on the available information, the Police Department has notified federal authorities and the individuals that were present at the event are on administrative leave pending review.”
Rocky Mount is located about 25 miles south of Roanoke, Virginia.

On Friday night, the Seattle Police Department had placed at least two officers on administrative leave while officials investigate whether they took part in Wednesday's deadly riot at the US Capitol in Washington, DC, the department's chief, Adrian Diaz, said in a statement.


I suspect there will be more.
Painful reality. Yes, bad apples...they need to go.

Buh Bye.... I am going to ask a friend of mine that’s a cop in a hayseed town about the atmosphere since Biden won. He said after Trump won, his law enforcement colleagues said things they never would have before..... it was like, the chains are off.

This was immediately noticeable all over the country, the day Trump won the election. It wasn't just "hayseed country". The racists came out of the woodwork everywhere. Anyone who thinks this event in Washington and Trumpism in general are not inextricably wound up in American racism is a FOOL! I doubt the shithouse rats will be driven back into the shithouse so easily by a non-racist president. Force will have to be applied. The battle will have to be taken to their own front yards. Innocent people will suffer as a result.

In asked my buddy yesterday about the response when Biden was elected and here was his answer:

“Biden won and NO ONE speaks to me about the outcome but before they were talking about getting me to vote TRUMP. NO talk about DC at all no one watching it either!! Very bad atmosphere at PD!!”

All over the country, I had folks tell me that people talked to them in ways they never had before after Trump won the election....Talk to people in service industries....they have more contact.

[foreverlax]

"We need people who will speak the truth, who will remember that we are here for our fellow citizens, they are here for our country. They are not here simply to be re-elected again," the former longtime Republican added. "Right now we need you to be real Americans who we can trust, who will tell the truth, who will argue on the basis of facts, and not just argue on the basis of what their primary looks like."

Colin Powell.

[youthathletics]

"We need people who will speak the truth, who will remember that we are here for our fellow citizens, they are here for our country. They are not here simply to be re-elected again," the former longtime Republican added. "Right now we need you to be real Americans who we can trust, who will tell the truth, who will argue on the basis of facts, and not just argue on the basis of what their primary looks like."

Colin Powell.

So, what he is saying is we are royally effed, b/c we both know them baztids lie to our faces quite often.

[foreverlax]

"We need people who will speak the truth, who will remember that we are here for our fellow citizens, they are here for our country. They are not here simply to be re-elected again," the former longtime Republican added. "Right now we need you to be real Americans who we can trust, who will tell the truth, who will argue on the basis of facts, and not just argue on the basis of what their primary looks like."

Colin Powell.

So, what he is saying is we are royally effed, b/c we both know them baztids lie to our faces quite often.

Not the message I got....The lying the past 4 years, from the Rs, is unprecedented....imho.

[MDlaxfan76]

wow. I hope you don't get paint on yourself with that extremely broad brush.

Really? You think that image goes too far as a metaphor for what we saw this week, what we can see online, and what (hopefully) most of us don't bother to see on the dark web?

This faux outrage from tech is downright laughable.

What's been revealed this week is an ugly truth, the Trump cult is in large part undergirded by a white supremacist, fascist ideology, complete with the most radical such adherents.

The black and white flag is a representation of that dark truth, the peeling back the revealing of what's really underneath, hidden purposely to those who it has seduced.

To be clear, there are Trump cultists who do not understand this reality, they've been seduced into it with all sorts of blatant lies, with the ground prepared over numerous years. But that's what they now find themselves part of, and being revealed.

The question is what those who did not understand this reality do, will they break their fever and disassociate themselves from the lies and violent, fascist intent?

I do. The peeling back of the blue stripe suggests to me that police, signified by the blue stripe, in general are nazi sympathizers.

Were there some off duty police involved in the bs this week? Certainly. Should they be be held accountable? Certainly. To me the image paints all police in that manner, hence the broad brush comment.

Perhaps you can explain to me the genesis of a flag that's black and white with a blue line. Is this a symbol of the Trump cult variety or is it an image promoted by Antifa or BLM etc? I am under the impression that it's the former.

Assuming the blue line is intended to represent the police, I don't think that the peeling back of that line or any other to reveal what's underneath all of the lines necessarily means ALL police or "in general" are white supremacist fascists. Just the Trump cult adherents.

But I may be mistaken. Don't think so: https://www.themarshallproject.org/2020 ... rican-flag

From the article you linked:

Those who fly the flag have said it stands for solidarity and professional pride within a dangerous, difficult profession and a solemn tribute to fallen police officers.

That is the truth regarding the flag's origin and intention and why, IMO, the posted bastardized version is a lie. The flag is also a symbolic foil to the absurd notion of defund and/or abolish the police. Reform is in no doubt needed and I am quite sure the vast majority of cops would agree with that.

In the originator's own words:

Now, Jacob is the president of Thin Blue Line USA, one of the largest online retailers devoted exclusively to sales of pro-police flags,
T-shirts, neckwear and jewelry. “The flag has no association with racism, hatred, bigotry,” he said. “It’s a flag to show support for law enforcement—no politics involved.”

I would bet thousands of black and brown (unfortunately I need to be specific here) policemen and policewomen would disagree with your hyper-sensitive and distorted interpretation of their flag.

“When I see that flag as a sticker on a car or flying in someone’s yard, I know that there is someone there that knows what I’m going through. They know because they are a part of the family,” Bishopp said. “I don’t really care if it bothers people or hurts their feelings to see that flag. I absolutely could care less. I am proud of what I do, the people I work with, and the ones who have died defending the rights of strangers. I will continue to fly that flag until my very last day.”

Well said.

And of course I never mentioned anything "Trump" regarding the flag... you on the other hand can't seem to help yourself. Your continuing compulsive need to define anything and everything as Trump-related and racist is sad. Almost feel sorry for you...

Funny...you have selected only the positive connotation excerpts...what it also says is "Those who fly the flag have said it stands for solidarity and professional pride within a dangerous, difficult profession and a solemn tribute to fallen police officers. But it has also been flown by white supremacists, appearing next to Confederate flags at the 2017 ‘Unite the Right’ rally in Charlottesville, Virginia."
Funny? To you perhaps... Obviously I chose sections of the article you posted that are accurate to the truthful origin and intention of the flag. My initial point. Why would I include sections that fall into areas of assumption/conjecture? That's your narrative not mine.

And other examples of its usage by these a-holes.
So it seems that a minority of "a-holes" have coopted/hijacked the flag? Perhaps. But instead of recognizing the minority of
a-holes for what they are (this is where accurate, honest reporting is imperative), your typical impulsive reaction is to cry, Trumpist!, racist!, Nazi!, alleging that anyone, including the well-intentioned majority of those who fly the flag, as evil. Seems pretty prejudicial to me.

And it detailed the troubled history of the phrase and concept of "thin blue line".
An easy connection to make or conclusion to draw for anyone with imagination and motive.

Again, blame the white supremacists for having adopted it as an counter to BLM, not me. Blame those in history who originated and developed the phrase and the attitude it represents towards blacks in specific, not me.
History?... history that may not apply to this day and age but can easily be contrived to support motivation/narrative?

And again, what specific blacks are you referring to? The thousands who happen to be in law enforcement and/or whose family members wish to fly the flag in support, the initial and accurate intention of the symbol?

This is not a matter of hypersensitivity, it's a matter of who has used it and why. The particular meme is a commentary of what is revealed in such usage.
So what to do MD? Do you plan to stand with the "woke mob" and ban the flag?... a ban based on a minority of a-holes who have utilized it for the false reasons, or based on a cherry-picking, deceitful media whose agenda is to further divide the country?

BTW, 2 hours ago:
2 Virginia police officers are on administrative leave after attending event at Capitol last Wednesday
From CNN's Chuck Johnston
Two Rocky Mount, Virginia, police officers are on administrative leave after attending an event in Washington, DC, last Wednesday, according to the Rocky Mount Police Department.

The two off-duty officers were present at an event in DC on Wednesday, a statement the department released on Sunday said.

“The Town of Rocky Mount fully supports all lawful expressions of freedom of speech and assembly by its employees but does not condone the unlawful acts that occurred that day. Based on the available information, the Police Department has notified federal authorities and the individuals that were present at the event are on administrative leave pending review.”
Rocky Mount is located about 25 miles south of Roanoke, Virginia.

On Friday night, the Seattle Police Department had placed at least two officers on administrative leave while officials investigate whether they took part in Wednesday's deadly riot at the US Capitol in Washington, DC, the department's chief, Adrian Diaz, said in a statement.


I suspect there will be more.
Painful reality. Yes, bad apples...they need to go.

Ban the flag???

I haven't even called for banning the Confederate flag or Nazi symbols. As my buddy told me years ago, "when I see the Confederate flag I'm grateful, now I know who the person is".

The Ross flag had a very important rallying purpose, at the time of its creation, and as such I revere it. HOWEVER, I'd never wave it at a political rally today because it sends a very different message TODAY (and I don't want to be associated with that insurrectionist, anti-government message)...Is what you seem to be bothered by that you actually support that message?

There were many, many Ross flags flown at the insurrection...these misguided a-holes think they're rallying "Patriots" to revolt against their government.

The thin blue line phrase and its history is exactly that, and it continues to be understood by communities of color to represent, in part, a confrontation with those communities, the racism runs deep. And, unfortunately, it does. Do you want that to continue? Or do you want the racists out?

You realize that supporting the police doesn't mean having to defend racist police and policing, right?

By "Funny" I simply meant you are sadly so...you clearly chose to ignore the full context of what you excerpted.

[Matnum PI]

Not the message I got....The lying the past 4 years, from the Rs, is unprecedented....imho.

Specifically from Trump. And then Rs following his lead. Trump is and has been truly unique in his ability to fabricate reality. Politicians lie. People lie. But Trump is and has been in a completely different stratosphere. Trump is literally a pathological liar. Not a great guy to be running our country.

[MDlaxfan76]

"We need people who will speak the truth, who will remember that we are here for our fellow citizens, they are here for our country. They are not here simply to be re-elected again," the former longtime Republican added. "Right now we need you to be real Americans who we can trust, who will tell the truth, who will argue on the basis of facts, and not just argue on the basis of what their primary looks like."

Colin Powell.

So, what he is saying is we are royally effed, b/c we both know them baztids lie to our faces quite often.

Not the message I got....The lying the past 4 years, from the Rs, is unprecedented....imho.

Epic levels of such. Definitely no comparison with any other period in my 60+ years of life, though the lying during the Vietnam era from those we trusted to represent the country, including military brass, was similarly consequential.

This period is definitely the worse from the the POTUS and right wing media, and this has created a 'political market' to which the majority of elected national R's tragically chose to acquiesce.