2020 Elections - Trump FIRED

[Typical Lax Dad]

At least these 7 conservative GOP congressfolk have a bit of a clue:

From a purely partisan perspective, Republican presidential candidates have won the national popular vote only once in the last 32 years. They have therefore depended on the electoral college for nearly all presidential victories in the last generation. If we perpetuate the notion that Congress may disregard certified electoral votes—based solely on its own assessment that one or more states mishandled the presidential election—we will be delegitimizing the very system that led Donald Trump to victory in 2016, and that could provide the only path to victory in 2024.

Word.

Doofuses like Salty, Hawley, Cruz and the 140 member House dumb-ass caucus need to think before speaking. States rights and the Electoral College are things that benefit the...wait for it...GOP. Wait, what?

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5324 ... -challenge

I agree with this part of their letter :
The elections held in at least six battleground states raise profound questions, and it is a legal, constitutional, and moral imperative that they be answered.
That's what is being done. Otherwise, it will be swept under the rug.

Such baloney. You reached the sad phase of your partisan episode.

Why are these republicans still sticking up for trump? They look like a complete bunch of idiots. This trump call to the SoS of Georgia was the most pathetic thing I have heard in a very long time. Go away trump, just go away, go play golf or something. The sad part is that this weed is now the face of the republican party. trump is making the democrats look brilliant, and that is a tough thing to do. The democrats just have to stand aside and watch trump implode all on his own.

You got it wrong. Schmidlap says it’s all by the book and for the betterment of the country. Trump is trying to save us from junk mail voting.

OS has his opinions and I respect the fact he stays loyal to his party. I'm judging that rat faced weasel trump by his own words and actions. The republican faithful should be running away from trump like he was a case of the clap.

Lindsey Graham called up Georgia officials and asked that they do something to overturn the election. Trump called..... you wonder what Trump had to say to Vlad after he cleared the room of all Americans.

[CU88]

January 3, 2021
Heather Cox Richardson
Jan 4



Today’s news starts yesterday, when Trump called Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to demand he overturn the results of the presidential election in Georgia and deliver the state to Trump. Raffensperger apparently recorded the call, keeping it handy in case Trump misrepresented it publicly. This morning, Trump did exactly that, tweeting: “I spoke to Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger yesterday about Fulton County and voter fraud in Georgia. He was unwilling, or unable, to answer questions such as the ‘ballots under table’ scam, ballot destruction, out of state ‘voters’, dead voters, and more. He has no clue!” Raffensperger retweeted the president’s accusation with the comment: “Respectfully, President Trump: What you're saying is not true. The truth will come out[.]”

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution and the Washington Post both obtained a recording of the conversation and published news of the call this afternoon, revealing that Trump had asked Raffensperger to “find” the 11,800 votes Trump needed to win Georgia. In the hour-long call, the president rambled through the conspiracy theories about the election—all of which have been debunked—seeming to believe them. He insisted that there was simply no way he could have lost in Georgia, and cited the size of his rallies there as proof. Trump asked Raffensperger to adjust Georgia’s vote to give the election to Trump by a single vote, telling him that he could just say that he had recalculated.

Trump made vague threats against Raffensperger and the secretary of state’s general counsel Ryan Germany, suggesting that their unwillingness to find the ballots Trump insists are missing puts them at risk for criminal charges. He bullied them—talking over them and at one point telling Raffensperger “only a child” could believe the vote counting was fair-- and warned them that it would be their fault if the Republican candidates lost in the January 5 runoff election since “a lot of Republicans are going to vote negative, because they hate what you did to the president…. And you would be respected, really respected, if this can be straightened out before the election.”

After running through all the conspiracy theories and suggesting that Raffensperger and Germany might face criminal charges, Trump said: “So what are we going to do here folks? I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a break.”

Joining Trump on the call were White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows; lawyer Cleta Mitchell, a prominent right-wing lawyer who had managed until now to keep her participation in Trump’s efforts to overturn the election quiet; and lawyer Kurt Hilbert. Meadows was more reasonable than Trump, but he, too, asked Raffensperger “to look at some of these allegations to find a path forward that’s less litigious.” (Raffensperger replied: “[w]e don’t agree that you have won.”)

Mitchell and Hilbert backed Trump and Meadows in their repeated demand for information about voters, including their voter IDs and registrations. This is voter data to which, by law, they cannot have access. (When Germany answered that the state is prohibited from sharing that information, Trump retorted: “Well, you have to.”)

University of Georgia Law Professor Anthony Michael Kreis told Politico reporters Allie Bice, Kyle Cheney, Anita Kumar, and Zach Montellaro that it is against the law in Georgia for anyone to “solicit” or “request” election fraud. “There’s just no way that… he has not violated this law,” Kreis said. Michael R. Bromwich, former inspector general of the Department of Justice, tweeted that “unless there are portions of the tape that somehow negate criminal intent,” Trump’s “best defense would be insanity.”

David Shafer, the chair of the Georgia Republican Party, tried to excuse this extraordinary conversation by tweeting that the phone call had been a “confidential settlement discussion” of two lawsuits Trump has filed against Raffensperger, and that the audio version the Washington Post published was “heavily edited and omits the stipulation that all discussions were for the purpose of settling litigation and confidential under federal and state law.”

Marc E. Elias, a lawyer leading the Biden team’s litigation efforts to counter Trump’s lawsuits over the election, knocked that explanation flat. “Trump and his allies have lost 60 post-election lawsuits, including several in GA,” he tweeted. “There are no cases that could have plausibly been the subject of settlement discussion. Oh, and I represent parties in all of those cases, so I would have had to be on the phone as well. I wasn't.”

President Richard M. Nixon resigned after his people orchestrated an attempt to bug the Democratic National Committee headquarters in the Watergate Hotel in Washington, D.C., before the 1972 election, and then covered up that burglary. What is on this recording makes the Watergate scandal look quaint. President Trump, his chief of staff, and two of his lawyers have been recorded pressuring state authorities to change vote counts so they can steal an American election. Especially considering that we know Trump pressured Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky to help him win in 2020, we have to assume this is not the only call like this he has made in the last several weeks.

The only more thorough attack on our democracy would involve the military and, not coincidentally, tonight all ten living former defense secretaries, including two who served under Trump, signed a letter to the Washington Post reiterating that the military should not be involved in determining the outcome of an election. They warned that any efforts to involve the military in an election dispute “would take us into dangerous, unlawful and unconstitutional territory,” and noted that any civilian or military official who either directs or carries out an order to get involved in an election “would be accountable, including potentially facing criminal penalties, for the grave consequences of their actions on our republic.”

This bombshell recording changes political calculations across the board.

Republicans have been lining up either for or against the president, showing their loyalty by backing his attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election. More than 100 House members have said they would contest Congress’s January 6 counting of the electoral votes from states Trump continues, without evidence, to claim he won. On December 30, Senator Josh Hawley (R-MO) agreed to join them, at least for the state of Pennsylvania. Then, yesterday, twelve senators, led by Ted Cruz (R-TX) said they would reject the votes from all the contested states and demand an audit of the election results there. They don’t expect to change the election—the results are clear—but lawmakers backing Trump are hoping to court his voters for future elections as they try to step into the vacuum his removal from office will create.

It’s a cynical and dangerous position, and standing against them are lawmakers like Senator Mitt Romney (R-UT) and Senator Ben Sasse (R-NE), who note that the 2020 election was overwhelming and clean, and that Trump is attacking the very basis of democratic government as he tries to change the outcome of it. They are hoping to pull the Republican Party away from Trump and his followers.

The struggle between the two factions was out in the open by yesterday, and shortly before the news of the recording dropped, two Republican leaders sided against the lawmakers planning to contest the counting of the electoral votes. House of Representatives Conference Chair Liz Cheney (R-WY), who is responsible for electing the House Republican leadership and managing committee assignments and who is therefore very powerful, sent a 21-page memo to her colleagues warning that such a plan would set a dangerous precedent, enabling Congress, rather than the states, to choose the president. She concluded: oth the clear text of the Constitution and the Electoral Count Act [of 1887] compel the same conclusion—there is no appropriate basis to object to the electors from any of the six states at issue.”

Former Speaker of the House Paul Ryan (R-WI) also issued a statement condemning the plan. "It is difficult to conceive of a more anti-democratic and anti-conservative act than a federal intervention to overturn the results of state-certified elections and disenfranchise millions of Americans," he wrote.

These two defections from the Trump camp were not, perhaps, surprises, but the news of this extraordinary recording now offers an opening for others to slide away from Trump. Senator Tom Cotton (R-AR), who has been a staunch supporter of the president but who seems to be trying to position himself for a presidential run in 2024, tonight also rejected his colleagues’ plan to challenge the electoral count on Wednesday. His statement split the difference between the two Republican factions. He reiterated many of the Trump camp’s talking points but, like Cheney, objected to their plan to overturn the election in Congress on the grounds that the last thing conservatives, who object to the power of the federal government, should want is a stronger Congress. Cotton's defection is a sign that the recording is undermining Trump's position.

If there is one good thing for the president in all this, it is that this stunning news has taken the media focus off the coronavirus, at least for a few hours. More than 350,000 Americans have now died of Covid-19; more than 20 million Americans have been infected. “Cases are rising, hospitalizations are increasing, deaths are increasing,” Dr. Henry Walke of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention told Tim Stelloh of NBC News. CDC Director Robert Redfield agreed, adding that the winter months “are going to be the most difficult time in the public health history of this nation.”

[Typical Lax Dad]

Mitchell and Hilbert backed Trump and Meadows in their repeated demand for information about voters, including their voter IDs and registrations. This is voter data to which, by law, they cannot have access. (When Germany answered that the state is prohibited from sharing that information, Trump retorted: “Well, you have to.”)

University of Georgia Law Professor Anthony Michael Kreis told Politico reporters Allie Bice, Kyle Cheney, Anita Kumar, and Zach Montellaro that it is against the law in Georgia for anyone to “solicit” or “request” election fraud. “There’s just no way that… he has not violated this law,” Kreis said. Michael R. Bromwich, former inspector general of the Department of Justice, tweeted that “unless there are portions of the tape that somehow negate criminal intent,” Trump’s “best defense would be insanity.”

Just remarkable

[cradleandshoot]

At least these 7 conservative GOP congressfolk have a bit of a clue:

From a purely partisan perspective, Republican presidential candidates have won the national popular vote only once in the last 32 years. They have therefore depended on the electoral college for nearly all presidential victories in the last generation. If we perpetuate the notion that Congress may disregard certified electoral votes—based solely on its own assessment that one or more states mishandled the presidential election—we will be delegitimizing the very system that led Donald Trump to victory in 2016, and that could provide the only path to victory in 2024.

Word.

Doofuses like Salty, Hawley, Cruz and the 140 member House dumb-ass caucus need to think before speaking. States rights and the Electoral College are things that benefit the...wait for it...GOP. Wait, what?

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5324 ... -challenge

I agree with this part of their letter :
The elections held in at least six battleground states raise profound questions, and it is a legal, constitutional, and moral imperative that they be answered.
That's what is being done. Otherwise, it will be swept under the rug.

Such baloney. You reached the sad phase of your partisan episode.

Why are these republicans still sticking up for trump? They look like a complete bunch of idiots. This trump call to the SoS of Georgia was the most pathetic thing I have heard in a very long time. Go away trump, just go away, go play golf or something. The sad part is that this weed is now the face of the republican party. trump is making the democrats look brilliant, and that is a tough thing to do. The democrats just have to stand aside and watch trump implode all on his own.

You got it wrong. Schmidlap says it’s all by the book and for the betterment of the country. Trump is trying to save us from junk mail voting.

OS has his opinions and I respect the fact he stays loyal to his party. I'm judging that rat faced weasel trump by his own words and actions. The republican faithful should be running away from trump like he was a case of the clap.

Lindsey Graham called up Georgia officials and asked that they do something to overturn the election. Trump called..... you wonder what Trump had to say to Vlad after he cleared the room of all Americans.

This very sad episode is rock bottom for the republican party. IMO getting rid of trump should be a glorious and happy time for all Republicans. They still want to cling on to trump? Why???

[Typical Lax Dad]

At least these 7 conservative GOP congressfolk have a bit of a clue:

From a purely partisan perspective, Republican presidential candidates have won the national popular vote only once in the last 32 years. They have therefore depended on the electoral college for nearly all presidential victories in the last generation. If we perpetuate the notion that Congress may disregard certified electoral votes—based solely on its own assessment that one or more states mishandled the presidential election—we will be delegitimizing the very system that led Donald Trump to victory in 2016, and that could provide the only path to victory in 2024.

Word.

Doofuses like Salty, Hawley, Cruz and the 140 member House dumb-ass caucus need to think before speaking. States rights and the Electoral College are things that benefit the...wait for it...GOP. Wait, what?

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5324 ... -challenge

I agree with this part of their letter :
The elections held in at least six battleground states raise profound questions, and it is a legal, constitutional, and moral imperative that they be answered.
That's what is being done. Otherwise, it will be swept under the rug.

Such baloney. You reached the sad phase of your partisan episode.

Why are these republicans still sticking up for trump? They look like a complete bunch of idiots. This trump call to the SoS of Georgia was the most pathetic thing I have heard in a very long time. Go away trump, just go away, go play golf or something. The sad part is that this weed is now the face of the republican party. trump is making the democrats look brilliant, and that is a tough thing to do. The democrats just have to stand aside and watch trump implode all on his own.

You got it wrong. Schmidlap says it’s all by the book and for the betterment of the country. Trump is trying to save us from junk mail voting.

OS has his opinions and I respect the fact he stays loyal to his party. I'm judging that rat faced weasel trump by his own words and actions. The republican faithful should be running away from trump like he was a case of the clap.

Lindsey Graham called up Georgia officials and asked that they do something to overturn the election. Trump called..... you wonder what Trump had to say to Vlad after he cleared the room of all Americans.

This very sad episode is rock bottom for the republican party. IMO getting rid of trump should be a glorious and happy time for all Republicans. They still want to cling on to trump? Why???

They want his supporters....you also have to wonder what Lindsey is doing in his own state to impact elections. He called up people he doesn’t even know....think about it....Trump’s people were having innocent meetings with Russians but meetings with Americans display criminal intent....think about it.

[MDlaxfan76]

At least these 7 conservative GOP congressfolk have a bit of a clue:

From a purely partisan perspective, Republican presidential candidates have won the national popular vote only once in the last 32 years. They have therefore depended on the electoral college for nearly all presidential victories in the last generation. If we perpetuate the notion that Congress may disregard certified electoral votes—based solely on its own assessment that one or more states mishandled the presidential election—we will be delegitimizing the very system that led Donald Trump to victory in 2016, and that could provide the only path to victory in 2024.

Word.

Doofuses like Salty, Hawley, Cruz and the 140 member House dumb-ass caucus need to think before speaking. States rights and the Electoral College are things that benefit the...wait for it...GOP. Wait, what?

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5324 ... -challenge

I agree with this part of their letter :
The elections held in at least six battleground states raise profound questions, and it is a legal, constitutional, and moral imperative that they be answered.
That's what is being done. Otherwise, it will be swept under the rug.

Such baloney. You reached the sad phase of your partisan episode.

Why are these republicans still sticking up for trump? They look like a complete bunch of idiots. This trump call to the SoS of Georgia was the most pathetic thing I have heard in a very long time. Go away trump, just go away, go play golf or something. The sad part is that this weed is now the face of the republican party. trump is making the democrats look brilliant, and that is a tough thing to do. The democrats just have to stand aside and watch trump implode all on his own.

You got it wrong. Schmidlap says it’s all by the book and for the betterment of the country. Trump is trying to save us from junk mail voting.

OS has his opinions and I respect the fact he stays loyal to his party. I'm judging that rat faced weasel trump by his own words and actions. The republican faithful should be running away from trump like he was a case of the clap.

Lindsey Graham called up Georgia officials and asked that they do something to overturn the election. Trump called..... you wonder what Trump had to say to Vlad after he cleared the room of all Americans.

This very sad episode is rock bottom for the republican party. IMO getting rid of trump should be a glorious and happy time for all Republicans. They still want to cling on to trump? Why???

Well, that's what happens when you drum out of the party as Rino's the moderate, rational types.

The Trump cult is all about power and hating the Dems, with the Dems just being an analogue for all those Others that they resent, fear, and hate. That hate is not going to disappear with Trump.

[foreverlax]

At least these 7 conservative GOP congressfolk have a bit of a clue:

From a purely partisan perspective, Republican presidential candidates have won the national popular vote only once in the last 32 years. They have therefore depended on the electoral college for nearly all presidential victories in the last generation. If we perpetuate the notion that Congress may disregard certified electoral votes—based solely on its own assessment that one or more states mishandled the presidential election—we will be delegitimizing the very system that led Donald Trump to victory in 2016, and that could provide the only path to victory in 2024.

Word.

Doofuses like Salty, Hawley, Cruz and the 140 member House dumb-ass caucus need to think before speaking. States rights and the Electoral College are things that benefit the...wait for it...GOP. Wait, what?

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5324 ... -challenge

I agree with this part of their letter :
The elections held in at least six battleground states raise profound questions, and it is a legal, constitutional, and moral imperative that they be answered.
That's what is being done. Otherwise, it will be swept under the rug.

Such baloney. You reached the sad phase of your partisan episode.

Why are these republicans still sticking up for trump? They look like a complete bunch of idiots. This trump call to the SoS of Georgia was the most pathetic thing I have heard in a very long time. Go away trump, just go away, go play golf or something. The sad part is that this weed is now the face of the republican party. trump is making the democrats look brilliant, and that is a tough thing to do. The democrats just have to stand aside and watch trump implode all on his own.

You got it wrong. Schmidlap says it’s all by the book and for the betterment of the country. Trump is trying to save us from junk mail voting.

OS has his opinions and I respect the fact he stays loyal to his party. I'm judging that rat faced weasel trump by his own words and actions. The republican faithful should be running away from trump like he was a case of the clap.

Lindsey Graham called up Georgia officials and asked that they do something to overturn the election. Trump called..... you wonder what Trump had to say to Vlad after he cleared the room of all Americans.

This very sad episode is rock bottom for the republican party. IMO getting rid of trump should be a glorious and happy time for all Republicans. They still want to cling on to trump? Why???

Sounds like some buyers remorse.....pretty tough to admit you were wrong in supporting Trump, in hindsight of course.

[seacoaster]

At least these 7 conservative GOP congressfolk have a bit of a clue:

From a purely partisan perspective, Republican presidential candidates have won the national popular vote only once in the last 32 years. They have therefore depended on the electoral college for nearly all presidential victories in the last generation. If we perpetuate the notion that Congress may disregard certified electoral votes—based solely on its own assessment that one or more states mishandled the presidential election—we will be delegitimizing the very system that led Donald Trump to victory in 2016, and that could provide the only path to victory in 2024.

Word.

Doofuses like Salty, Hawley, Cruz and the 140 member House dumb-ass caucus need to think before speaking. States rights and the Electoral College are things that benefit the...wait for it...GOP. Wait, what?

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5324 ... -challenge

I agree with this part of their letter :
The elections held in at least six battleground states raise profound questions, and it is a legal, constitutional, and moral imperative that they be answered.
That's what is being done. Otherwise, it will be swept under the rug.

Such baloney. You reached the sad phase of your partisan episode.

Why are these republicans still sticking up for trump? They look like a complete bunch of idiots. This trump call to the SoS of Georgia was the most pathetic thing I have heard in a very long time. Go away trump, just go away, go play golf or something. The sad part is that this weed is now the face of the republican party. trump is making the democrats look brilliant, and that is a tough thing to do. The democrats just have to stand aside and watch trump implode all on his own.

You got it wrong. Schmidlap says it’s all by the book and for the betterment of the country. Trump is trying to save us from junk mail voting.

OS has his opinions and I respect the fact he stays loyal to his party. I'm judging that rat faced weasel trump by his own words and actions. The republican faithful should be running away from trump like he was a case of the clap.

Lindsey Graham called up Georgia officials and asked that they do something to overturn the election. Trump called..... you wonder what Trump had to say to Vlad after he cleared the room of all Americans.

This very sad episode is rock bottom for the republican party. IMO getting rid of trump should be a glorious and happy time for all Republicans. They still want to cling on to trump? Why???

I've always thought this kind of started with John McCain's choice of Palin for the VP slot in 2007-08. When it became clear that she was a good performer who whipped up crowds, but who was grossly out of her depth in the "heartbeat away" slot, Republicans began the narrative that has persisted since: she (or he) is a a regular person, assassinated by left wing operatives and media, who just wants to speak plainly to the (best faux pious face here) "American People." Right of Center Americans in numbers bought that narrative and since then there has been an astonishing and growing distance between the Right and facts/science/analytics. Look at the Right's reaction today about a telephone call that was pretty plainly a criminal conspiracy to fraudulently influence the outcome of an election, involving the WH Chief of Staff, the President and some really stupid lawyers for the President.

Example:

https://twitter.com/newsmax/status/1345944931509166081

"I just need to find 11,780 votes."

[Typical Lax Dad]

At least these 7 conservative GOP congressfolk have a bit of a clue:

From a purely partisan perspective, Republican presidential candidates have won the national popular vote only once in the last 32 years. They have therefore depended on the electoral college for nearly all presidential victories in the last generation. If we perpetuate the notion that Congress may disregard certified electoral votes—based solely on its own assessment that one or more states mishandled the presidential election—we will be delegitimizing the very system that led Donald Trump to victory in 2016, and that could provide the only path to victory in 2024.

Word.

Doofuses like Salty, Hawley, Cruz and the 140 member House dumb-ass caucus need to think before speaking. States rights and the Electoral College are things that benefit the...wait for it...GOP. Wait, what?

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5324 ... -challenge

I agree with this part of their letter :
The elections held in at least six battleground states raise profound questions, and it is a legal, constitutional, and moral imperative that they be answered.
That's what is being done. Otherwise, it will be swept under the rug.

Such baloney. You reached the sad phase of your partisan episode.

Why are these republicans still sticking up for trump? They look like a complete bunch of idiots. This trump call to the SoS of Georgia was the most pathetic thing I have heard in a very long time. Go away trump, just go away, go play golf or something. The sad part is that this weed is now the face of the republican party. trump is making the democrats look brilliant, and that is a tough thing to do. The democrats just have to stand aside and watch trump implode all on his own.

You got it wrong. Schmidlap says it’s all by the book and for the betterment of the country. Trump is trying to save us from junk mail voting.

OS has his opinions and I respect the fact he stays loyal to his party. I'm judging that rat faced weasel trump by his own words and actions. The republican faithful should be running away from trump like he was a case of the clap.

Lindsey Graham called up Georgia officials and asked that they do something to overturn the election. Trump called..... you wonder what Trump had to say to Vlad after he cleared the room of all Americans.

This very sad episode is rock bottom for the republican party. IMO getting rid of trump should be a glorious and happy time for all Republicans. They still want to cling on to trump? Why???

I've always thought this kind of started with John McCain's choice of Palin for the VP slot in 2007-08. When it became clear that she was a good performer who whipped up crowds, but who was grossly out of her depth in the "heartbeat away" slot, Republicans began the narrative that has persisted since: she (or he) is a a regular person, assassinated by left wing operatives and media, who just wants to speak plainly to the (best faux pious face here) "American People." Right of Center Americans in numbers bought that narrative and since then there has been an astonishing and growing distance between the Right and facts/science/analytics. Look at the Right's reaction today about a telephone call that was pretty plainly a criminal conspiracy to fraudulently influence the outcome of an election, involving the WH Chief of Staff, the President and some really stupid lawyers for the President.

That is the kind if stuff you would expect in Latin America or s Russian satellite country.

MAGA

[Farfromgeneva]

Barbara Boxer started it!

That’s the best that The Banana Republicans can come up with.

That’s pathetic coming from 6 year olds.

My 6yr old daughter (who literally was missing her two Front teeth for Christmas) will be spotter hitting, kicking or tackling my 8yr sold son (who definitely does things to his sister) and every single time starts out with a change in inflection of “but Sean...”.

That’s what it is, the same as a 6yr old girl.

[seacoaster]

The House Minority Leader telling the audience that the President was just showing his deep and abiding concern about the integrity of elections:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1346100480649404423

Excerpts of the call:

"But we only lost the state by that number, 11,000 votes, and 779....

I mean, look. Brad. We have a new tape that we're going to release. It's devastating. And by the way, that one event, that one event is much more than the 11,000 votes that we're talking about....

OK, you know that. You know that. You have no doubt about that. And you will find you will be at 11,779 within minutes, because Fulton County is totally corrupt and so is she, totally corrupt....

That's a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. And that's a big risk. But they are shredding ballots, in my opinion, based on what I've heard. And they are removing machinery and they're moving it as fast as they can, both of which are criminal finds. And you can't let it happen and you are letting it happen. You know, I mean, I'm notifying you that you're letting it happen. So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state."

[Farfromgeneva]

At least these 7 conservative GOP congressfolk have a bit of a clue:

From a purely partisan perspective, Republican presidential candidates have won the national popular vote only once in the last 32 years. They have therefore depended on the electoral college for nearly all presidential victories in the last generation. If we perpetuate the notion that Congress may disregard certified electoral votes—based solely on its own assessment that one or more states mishandled the presidential election—we will be delegitimizing the very system that led Donald Trump to victory in 2016, and that could provide the only path to victory in 2024.

Word.

Doofuses like Salty, Hawley, Cruz and the 140 member House dumb-ass caucus need to think before speaking. States rights and the Electoral College are things that benefit the...wait for it...GOP. Wait, what?

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5324 ... -challenge

I agree with this part of their letter :
The elections held in at least six battleground states raise profound questions, and it is a legal, constitutional, and moral imperative that they be answered.
That's what is being done. Otherwise, it will be swept under the rug.

Such baloney. You reached the sad phase of your partisan episode.

Why are these republicans still sticking up for trump? They look like a complete bunch of idiots. This trump call to the SoS of Georgia was the most pathetic thing I have heard in a very long time. Go away trump, just go away, go play golf or something. The sad part is that this weed is now the face of the republican party. trump is making the democrats look brilliant, and that is a tough thing to do. The democrats just have to stand aside and watch trump implode all on his own.

You got it wrong. Schmidlap says it’s all by the book and for the betterment of the country. Trump is trying to save us from junk mail voting.

OS has his opinions and I respect the fact he stays loyal to his party. I'm judging that rat faced weasel trump by his own words and actions. The republican faithful should be running away from trump like he was a case of the clap.

I don’t get this at all. The “republican faithful” should run away but it’s respectable to stay loyal to a party that has a person that the “Republican Faithful” should be running from? Is this some distinction between representatives of the citizens and the citizens themselves?

[DMac]

Trump was (is) an idiot for entering the world of politics, just had to feed that insatiable appetite that ego has though.
This is just typical of his modus operandi in the private sector, too many checks and balances for him to get away with as much in this world as in that one though. Man's an embarrassment to the nation (to a whole lot of us), can't go away soon enough.

[Matnum PI]

Georgia Secretary of State

https://flip.it/R_9_0w

[ggait]

Despite his Yale Law degree and SCOTUS clerkship and con law professorship, here's why Josh Hawley is the sleaziest dumb fork on the planet. Maybe even sleazier and dumber than Salty is (hard to believe, I know).

He's a Senator from Missouri. Claims he is protesting the PA election results because PA violated its own Constitution in adopting its "junk" mail-in voting law.

1. Why/how exactly is it your job to police the PA constitution?

2. PA Supreme Court (and other state and federal courts in PA) say BS. Multiple times.

3. Said law was passed in November 2019. Where were your serious concerns then Senator Hawley? Did your law schools teach the doctrine of laches by any chance?

4. Said law was used in the PA primaries earlier in 2020. Where were your serious concerns then Senator Hawley?

5. Said law was passed by the GOP controlled PA legislature. So Missouri's Senator Hawley is trying to overturn a law enacted by his GOP brethren in PA?

6. The members of PA's new congressional delegation were elected under the new law and its junk mail voting. Should all of them be thrown out of office? Maybe the GOP House reps (if persuaded by Senator Hawley) should refuse to be sworn in given such grievious concerns. Instead, though, they'll accept their new jobs and paychecks, but object to the exact same election that gave them their jobs and pay.

7. The members of PA's newly convened legislaturewere all elected under the new law and its jun mail voting. Should all of them be thrown out of office too?

Or maybe it is exactly this (from the PA AG):

Josh Shapiro
@JoshShapiroPA

Sen. @HawleyMO is lying.

PA’s vote by mail law got more Rep votes than Dem votes. No serious evidence of fraud exists. Fed & state judges upheld the law.

This isn’t about partisanship or polarization. It’s about sucking up to Trump & throwing out the people’s will. Sedition.

[youthathletics]

At least these 7 conservative GOP congressfolk have a bit of a clue:

From a purely partisan perspective, Republican presidential candidates have won the national popular vote only once in the last 32 years. They have therefore depended on the electoral college for nearly all presidential victories in the last generation. If we perpetuate the notion that Congress may disregard certified electoral votes—based solely on its own assessment that one or more states mishandled the presidential election—we will be delegitimizing the very system that led Donald Trump to victory in 2016, and that could provide the only path to victory in 2024.

Word.

Doofuses like Salty, Hawley, Cruz and the 140 member House dumb-ass caucus need to think before speaking. States rights and the Electoral College are things that benefit the...wait for it...GOP. Wait, what?

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5324 ... -challenge

I agree with this part of their letter :
The elections held in at least six battleground states raise profound questions, and it is a legal, constitutional, and moral imperative that they be answered.
That's what is being done. Otherwise, it will be swept under the rug.

Such baloney. You reached the sad phase of your partisan episode.

Why are these republicans still sticking up for trump? They look like a complete bunch of idiots. This trump call to the SoS of Georgia was the most pathetic thing I have heard in a very long time. Go away trump, just go away, go play golf or something. The sad part is that this weed is now the face of the republican party. trump is making the democrats look brilliant, and that is a tough thing to do. The democrats just have to stand aside and watch trump implode all on his own.

You got it wrong. Schmidlap says it’s all by the book and for the betterment of the country. Trump is trying to save us from junk mail voting.

OS has his opinions and I respect the fact he stays loyal to his party. I'm judging that rat faced weasel trump by his own words and actions. The republican faithful should be running away from trump like he was a case of the clap.

I don’t get this at all. The “republican faithful” should run away but it’s respectable to stay loyal to a party that has a person that the “Republican Faithful” should be running from? Is this some distinction between representatives of the citizens and the citizens themselves?

It doesn't make logical sense b/c Trump is really a democrat with an (r) next to his name. So arguing pro- R party is counter intuitive because Trump has that (r) tag.

[Typical Lax Dad]

At least these 7 conservative GOP congressfolk have a bit of a clue:

From a purely partisan perspective, Republican presidential candidates have won the national popular vote only once in the last 32 years. They have therefore depended on the electoral college for nearly all presidential victories in the last generation. If we perpetuate the notion that Congress may disregard certified electoral votes—based solely on its own assessment that one or more states mishandled the presidential election—we will be delegitimizing the very system that led Donald Trump to victory in 2016, and that could provide the only path to victory in 2024.

Word.

Doofuses like Salty, Hawley, Cruz and the 140 member House dumb-ass caucus need to think before speaking. States rights and the Electoral College are things that benefit the...wait for it...GOP. Wait, what?

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5324 ... -challenge

I agree with this part of their letter :
The elections held in at least six battleground states raise profound questions, and it is a legal, constitutional, and moral imperative that they be answered.
That's what is being done. Otherwise, it will be swept under the rug.

Such baloney. You reached the sad phase of your partisan episode.

Why are these republicans still sticking up for trump? They look like a complete bunch of idiots. This trump call to the SoS of Georgia was the most pathetic thing I have heard in a very long time. Go away trump, just go away, go play golf or something. The sad part is that this weed is now the face of the republican party. trump is making the democrats look brilliant, and that is a tough thing to do. The democrats just have to stand aside and watch trump implode all on his own.

You got it wrong. Schmidlap says it’s all by the book and for the betterment of the country. Trump is trying to save us from junk mail voting.

OS has his opinions and I respect the fact he stays loyal to his party. I'm judging that rat faced weasel trump by his own words and actions. The republican faithful should be running away from trump like he was a case of the clap.

I don’t get this at all. The “republican faithful” should run away but it’s respectable to stay loyal to a party that has a person that the “Republican Faithful” should be running from? Is this some distinction between representatives of the citizens and the citizens themselves?

It doesn't make logical sense b/c Trump is really a democrat with an (r) next to his name. So arguing pro- R party is counter intuitive because Trump has that (r) tag.

[Farfromgeneva]

In don’t think given all the democrats have discussed with respect to rule of law, transparency and democracy of late that he fits in there. He’s a parasite on all of us. His behavior of spending and wealth transfers and retribution I’ve seen in various portions of the Democratic Party for sure but he won the republican primary so if you’re rte actually correct that would mean everyone who ever voted for him is a complete and absolute moron And/or a deceptive, fraudulent, fake Republican.

So you’re saying OS, PB, 6ft, etc are closet democrats? What else are in those closets I wonder?

I don’t think that cohort who voted for him would like the latter though it may very well be true. Seems to me that’s the case.

[Typical Lax Dad]

On the New Year's Day call, Cheney, the No. 3 House Republican, made clear her distaste for the push, multiple sources told CNN.
Cheney told House Republicans that voting on the election is more consequential than any other vote -- including votes to authorize war, according to two sources. She also argued that nothing in the Constitution supports the notion that Congress can substitute its views for voters in those states selecting the next President.
In a 21-page memo sent to Republicans on Sunday, Cheney argued that objecting to the Electoral College count is unconstitutional and sets an "exceptionally dangerous precedent."
"As you will see, there is substantial reason for concern about the precedent Congressional objections will set here. By objecting to electoral slates, members are unavoidably asserting that Congress has the authority to overturn elections and overrule state and federal courts," she wrote. "Such objections set an exceptionally dangerous precedent, threatening to steal states' explicit constitutional responsibility for choosing the President and bestowing it instead on Congress. This is directly at odds with the Constitution's clear text and our core beliefs as Republicans."

Naahhh that is crazy talk....we just need to clear this up for the american people....

[ggait]

Liz and Dick Cheney.

Just a couple of RINO, Deep State, socialist, AOC boot lickers.

Thank god we have Hawley, Cruz and Trump to save us from their clutches.