2020 Elections - Trump FIRED

[cradleandshoot]

That may be true in CO where everybody on the rolls is sent an unsolicited mail in ballot.
That would not be true in the states where you have to request an absentee ballot.
It's what I've been saying all along. You've misinterpreted or misunderstood.

Respectfully, you're not thinking it through.

What happens when someone registers to vote in 2019, and dies before the Nov. 2020 election?

This, obviously, happens all the time. I thought you got this.

What happens is completely natural, and is EXPECTED by every State.....registered voters die all the time. Obviously.

In MD, my registration is updated when I renew my drivers lic, every 8 years.
With unsolicited mail in voting, I will continue to receive a ballot at my current mailing address until I submit an address change or die (if the MD DOH notifies the MVA). If I move & don't update my address or die when out of state, that may not all happen automatically or quickly.
Thus, I see utility in requesting a ballot (online) for each election in which I want to vote, &, in the process, verifying I'm still alive & residing in my registered district.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... ad-voters/

Yes, tons of ballots are sent to dead people. Trump shouldn’t worry about them.
People die during the two-year lifespan of an election mailing list. But that doesn’t mean biased fraudsters scoop up those ballots.

Dead people do receive ballots in the mail...
Dead people get a lot of mail, not just ballots: They get magazine subscriptions, political ads, charitable solicitations, bills, veterans benefits, tax refunds and stimulus checks. This flow continues until someone notifies the sender of the recipient’s death, typically by returned mail, or the sender strikes the recipient from its mailing list. Every state has a record of all the people who were registered in the last election. That is their mailing list, and it is generally two years old.

By the time of the next election, however, a lot of those voters will have died. In 2018, 153 million Americans were registered to vote. Standard actuarial tables suggest that roughly 2.4 million of those voters died over the two-year election cycle. If no one has alerted an election board to those deaths, it is inevitable that at least two million dead people will be getting ballots in the mail if we adopt universal mail-in voting — which is the fault of neither the election boards nor the U.S. Postal Service.

The same is true of ballots mailed to people who have moved. Fourteen percent of households change residence every year, which means the number of ballots “incorrectly” directed could be as high as 40 million in any election cycle...

If voters have to request (on line) their mail in ballot, it's a fail safe which eliminates the dependence on all the other things happening automatically & promptly. ...& it's not an undue burden if you want to vote, no matter your color or political party.

How many years do you think a deceased person gets a tax refund? What is unsolicited mail in voting? You have to solicit a vote?

Unsolicited mail in voting = voting via an unsolicited ballot received in the mail.

Which is successfully safely and securely done in a bunch of states.

We get it. You're for making it harder to vote, not easier.

You say it's not because of 'color' or partisan reasons, you just want less voting???

Nah, we get it.

Are junk mail ballots sent to non registered voters?

My wife and I received an absentee ballot application for the woman who owned our house 15 years ago. I wanted to have some fun with it and return it and see what happened. The wife threw the application out. If the people in charge of voting kept track of their records and peoples birth dates they would have know Irma would be 110 years old. I'm guessing she would have wanted us to vote for Biden.

Your wife kept you from committing a felony, so kiss her on the cheek for that...

How were they going to catch us? It was Irma's dirty work after all. It was in her name. Maybe they could dig her up and throw her in jail. Besides, I'm sure she would have wanted us to vote for Joe in her memory.

[foreverlax]

Thus, I see utility in requesting a ballot (online) for each election in which I want to vote, &, in the process, verifying I'm still alive & residing in my registered district.

That's great. That still won't eliminate the problem. No matter what you do, registered voters will die before an election.


You're trying to make it more difficult to vote, to solve a "problem" that doesn't exist.

Republicans will stop doing this when they realize that making it more difficult to vote remotely will cost them elections.

Then all the feigned concern will disappear.....

Did you notice no one brought up the importance of Voter ID this election? Gee, how come? Simple: the math wonks told Republican leadership to stop pushing for that. They know R's will lose elections if voting remotely for their elderly voters was removed as an option.

Geeezzz. It's not voting remotely. It's still voting by mail. You can just go online to request a mail in ballot, among other ways.

In MD, you can already register or update your address online.
https://elections.maryland.gov/voter_registration/

Assuming you have a computer and internet access.....which all resisted voters may not have.

[foreverlax]

That may be true in CO where everybody on the rolls is sent an unsolicited mail in ballot.
That would not be true in the states where you have to request an absentee ballot.
It's what I've been saying all along. You've misinterpreted or misunderstood.

Respectfully, you're not thinking it through.

What happens when someone registers to vote in 2019, and dies before the Nov. 2020 election?

This, obviously, happens all the time. I thought you got this.

What happens is completely natural, and is EXPECTED by every State.....registered voters die all the time. Obviously.

In MD, my registration is updated when I renew my drivers lic, every 8 years.
With unsolicited mail in voting, I will continue to receive a ballot at my current mailing address until I submit an address change or die (if the MD DOH notifies the MVA). If I move & don't update my address or die when out of state, that may not all happen automatically or quickly.
Thus, I see utility in requesting a ballot (online) for each election in which I want to vote, &, in the process, verifying I'm still alive & residing in my registered district.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... ad-voters/

Yes, tons of ballots are sent to dead people. Trump shouldn’t worry about them.
People die during the two-year lifespan of an election mailing list. But that doesn’t mean biased fraudsters scoop up those ballots.

Dead people do receive ballots in the mail...
Dead people get a lot of mail, not just ballots: They get magazine subscriptions, political ads, charitable solicitations, bills, veterans benefits, tax refunds and stimulus checks. This flow continues until someone notifies the sender of the recipient’s death, typically by returned mail, or the sender strikes the recipient from its mailing list. Every state has a record of all the people who were registered in the last election. That is their mailing list, and it is generally two years old.

By the time of the next election, however, a lot of those voters will have died. In 2018, 153 million Americans were registered to vote. Standard actuarial tables suggest that roughly 2.4 million of those voters died over the two-year election cycle. If no one has alerted an election board to those deaths, it is inevitable that at least two million dead people will be getting ballots in the mail if we adopt universal mail-in voting — which is the fault of neither the election boards nor the U.S. Postal Service.

The same is true of ballots mailed to people who have moved. Fourteen percent of households change residence every year, which means the number of ballots “incorrectly” directed could be as high as 40 million in any election cycle...

If voters have to request (on line) their mail in ballot, it's a fail safe which eliminates the dependence on all the other things happening automatically & promptly. ...& it's not an undue burden if you want to vote, no matter your color or political party.

How many years do you think a deceased person gets a tax refund? What is unsolicited mail in voting? You have to solicit a vote?

Unsolicited mail in voting = voting via an unsolicited ballot received in the mail.

Which is successfully safely and securely done in a bunch of states.

We get it. You're for making it harder to vote, not easier.

You say it's not because of 'color' or partisan reasons, you just want less voting???

Nah, we get it.

Are junk mail ballots sent to non registered voters?

My wife and I received an absentee ballot application for the woman who owned our house 15 years ago. I wanted to have some fun with it and return it and see what happened. The wife threw the application out. If the people in charge of voting kept track of their records and peoples birth dates they would have know Irma would be 110 years old. I'm guessing she would have wanted us to vote for Biden.

Your wife kept you from committing a felony, so kiss her on the cheek for that...

How were they going to catch us?

When they compare signatures....or they find out that she is dead.

[seacoaster]

Further to the conversation we were having yesterday concerning Trump's damage to the country. Trump is a traitor:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

"When President-elect Joe Biden is sworn into office on Jan. 20, the list of crises he will face includes a massive cyber intrusion, a still-raging global pandemic, a slowing economic recovery and a lingering reckoning over the nation’s racial tensions.

President Trump is not making his job any easier and, in several ways, appears to be actively making it harder — going to extraordinary lengths to disrupt and undermine the traditional transition from one administration to another despite the nation’s many crises.

Trump has sought to play down or even deny the still-expanding cybersecurity breach that many experts blame on Russia, even as its impact has spread to a growing number of federal agencies. The delayed and turbulent transition process could complicate the Biden administration’s ability to address the challenge and shore up the nation’s cyber defenses.

Trump has been far more vocal on other issues that have captured his focus, ranging from baseless claims of election fraud to a rolling purge of administration officials deemed not sufficiently loyal. In his final weeks in office, Trump is making a series of moves aimed at cementing his legacy and handicapping Biden’s presidency — from abruptly pulling troops from war zones to cracking down on Iran to encouraging the Justice Department to investigate his political enemies.

The result is a situation without precedent in American history: One president ending his term amid crisis is seeking to delegitimize a successor and floating the prospect of mounting a four-year campaign to return to power.

“In ordinary times and in the best of times, transitions are incredibly hard,” said Max Stier, president and chief executive of the nonpartisan Partnership for Public Service, adding that the number of challenges facing the country call for a smooth transition that does not resemble the current state of affairs.

“We live in a system where there’s one president” at a time, he said. “President Trump is still president. There are ways in which he’s not making it easier, but he’s making it harder.”

The White House pushed back in a lengthy statement listing what it described as Trump’s “unprecedented accomplishments” and fight against “the Swamp.”

“The American people elected Donald Trump as President for a four-year term, not until November 3, 2020,” White House spokesman Judd Deere said. “President Trump’s first term goes until January 20, 2021 as prescribed by the U.S. Constitution and he has every right to continue to advance policies that fulfill the commitments he made just as every President before him has done.”

Biden’s incoming administration has long described a “perfect storm” of four crises facing the country — the pandemic, economic distress, climate change and racial justice. It suddenly has another to add: a historic cyber intrusion into government networks that likely began months ago and could reverberate for months to come.

The organized attack has affected numerous federal agencies, American companies and institutions, with national security officials working around-the-clock to assess the scope and seriousness of the breach.

In a statement last week, Biden stopped short of attributing the hack to Russia but implicitly criticized the Trump administration for not having a forceful response.

“Our adversaries should know that, as president, I will not stand idly by in the face of cyber assaults on our nation,” he said Thursday.

While agency officials across the government are briefing the Biden team on the hack and a number of other issues, Trump is not expected to participate personally in the transition, according to officials close to him, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private deliberations.

The White House prevented Biden from receiving customary intelligence briefings for weeks as Trump complained about having to participate in the transition at all, according to officials.

The president has told advisers not to share information with Biden’s team that could be used against him, a senior administration official said.

Trump has refused to concede the election and sought to delegitimize Biden by claiming his victory was tainted by fraud. The traditional meeting between an outgoing president and an incoming successor, typically occurring at the White House and symbolizing the peaceful transfer of power, is unlikely to take place under Trump, officials said.

Trump’s administration is instead spending its final days trying to reshape the government Biden will take over and notch last-minute policy victories that could be difficult to overturn.

The president’s personnel team, led by personnel director Johnny McEntee, is rapidly installing loyalists across the government on boards and other powerful entities. Shortly before the election, Trump signed an executive order that would remake the federal civil service and potentially make it easier for him to place political allies into career positions that last well into the Biden administration.

Many of the jobs and board seats Trump is currently filling with longtime political allies had been left vacant for years. Now, the multiyear positions are being filled by people who regularly speak to Trump, such as White House aide Andrew Giuliani, former campaign manager Kellyanne Conway, former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski and Trump Organization lobbyist Brian Ballard.

It’s not uncommon for a president to fill open positions during the lame duck period. Former president Barack Obama made more than 100 such appointments after the November 2016 election, a period that also included several last-minute moves to cement his policy vision before ceding government to an opposing party.

Chase Untermeyer, who served as White House personnel director for former president George H.W. Bush, said his appointment to the U.S. Naval Academy’s Board of Visitors in the final weeks of Bush’s term was similar to Trump’s decision to fill boards and commissions with allies.

“Anything that Donald Trump may be trying right now has got quite a heritage,” he said, highlighting the “midnight appointment” moniker that dates back to 1801. After appointing a number of judges in his final days in office, outgoing president John Adams left town and refused to attend Thomas Jefferson’s inauguration.

While Trump could be following Adams’s example, his refusal to concede the race and talk of mounting another run for president in 2024 add a different flavor.

Trump has vowed not to back down in his attempts to overturn an election he clearly lost, and has entertained increasingly radical, if unlikely, strategies. In a meeting last week, for example, he discussed deploying the military to rerun the election — an idea shot down by aides — and appointing a special counsel on voter fraud.

Trump has mused to other aides about appointing a special prosecutor to investigate Biden’s son Hunter, though it is unclear if the Justice Department will actually do so, according to two advisers.

Trump, who accepted the resignation of Attorney General William P. Barr earlier this month, has also urged the Justice Department to back up his baseless claims of voter irregularities. So far, that effort has been unsuccessful — though it has convinced millions of Americans that Biden would not be a legitimate president.

Trump’s moves to handicap his successor also involve foreign policy, the latest signal that the idea of politics stopping at the waters’ edge may be a relic of the past.

At the Pentagon, Trump fired Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper after the election and abruptly announced a swift drawdown of troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. One former senior administration official said Trump’s precipitous withdrawals of troops in the Middle East could leave Biden “a real mess.”

“He’d do almost anything to complicate the life of Joe Biden,” the official said.

Yohannes Abraham, executive director of Biden’s transition, said Friday that while it is receiving cooperation from officials in several agencies, the Pentagon was among several “pockets of intransigence” hampering the president-elect’s team.

The comment came after acting defense secretary Chris Miller abruptly halted all briefings for the incoming administration and announced a “holiday pause” beginning Saturday.

Abraham disputed Miller’s claim that the Biden team had agreed to the pause.

“Let me be clear, there was no mutually agreed upon holiday break,” he told reporters Friday, adding that briefings should continue because “there’s no time to spare.”

Key career positions within the State Department and other agencies have been left empty, a result of the Trump administration’s years-long campaign against federal bureaucrats. One Biden adviser said they were taken aback at how decimated the federal government was below the top levels.

Biden’s ability to roll back Trump’s Iran policy could also be limited by late-stage moves by the president. Trump administration Iran hawks have worked for months to undermine what is left of the 2015 international nuclear deal, seeking new global sanctions on Iran at the United Nations and outside of it, adding unilateral U.S. sanctions that Iran would want to undo as a condition of fresh talks or a new deal.

U.S. sanctions announced Monday on Iranian officials the Trump administration say are to blame for the kidnapping and presumed death of an abducted American appear aimed at limiting Biden’s flexibility in any new negotiations.

“There should be no agreement negotiated with Iran ever again that doesn’t free Americans who are unjustly detained in that country,” a U.S. official told reporters, speaking on the condition of anonymity under rules imposed by the White House. “We all expect negotiations next year. That negotiation must include the return home of all the Americans unjustly detained in that country.”

Biden and lawmakers raise alarms over cybersecurity breach amid Trump’s silence

Iran itself has complicated any quick U.S. return to the 2015 Iran deal, which has been on life support since Trump’s unilateral withdrawal in 2018.

Iran is violating the deal by stockpiling enriched uranium, and conservative lawmakers in Tehran have imposed new requirements that appear designed to hamper any new negotiations. One new law directs Iran to speed up its production of enriched uranium and expel U.N. nuclear inspectors if key sanctions aren’t lifted by early February, about two weeks after Biden becomes president.

Both Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei and President Hassan Rouhani signaled willingness to reengage, however.

The Trump administration has also amped up rhetorical pressure on China over trade practices, human rights and more — redoubling efforts to shift blame on the way out the door.

Before last month’s election, Trump complained that losing the race would mean that Biden would take credit for work that began under his watch. He specifically mentioned vaccine development for the coronavirus pandemic and the economic recovery.

To be sure, even as Trump makes moves that could hamper Biden’s ability to govern, the rollout of the vaccine and burgeoning economic relief legislation could be two areas where the incoming administration would benefit from the lame-duck period.

But even those areas are not without drama, as some governors complain of vaccine shortages and lawmakers haggle over attempts to claw back the Federal Reserve’s emergency lending powers shortly before Biden takes over. The Treasury Department has already pulled the plug on some of the Fed programs, returning money Biden would’ve been able to use to prime the economy.

Trump’s suggestion that he may run for office again gives him a personal stake in seeing Biden fail. He will waste no time highlighting any stumbles by his successor, aides said. He is looking to begin campaigning in earnest soon and is likely to criticize Biden daily — a break from previous presidents who have at least temporarily stayed out of the fray.

“I think Trump is trying to seed the landscape with land mines,” said Chris Whipple, author of “The Spymasters” a book about the CIA. “He’s going to make the transition as painful as possible for Biden at every turn.”

[cradleandshoot]

That may be true in CO where everybody on the rolls is sent an unsolicited mail in ballot.
That would not be true in the states where you have to request an absentee ballot.
It's what I've been saying all along. You've misinterpreted or misunderstood.

Respectfully, you're not thinking it through.

What happens when someone registers to vote in 2019, and dies before the Nov. 2020 election?

This, obviously, happens all the time. I thought you got this.

What happens is completely natural, and is EXPECTED by every State.....registered voters die all the time. Obviously.

In MD, my registration is updated when I renew my drivers lic, every 8 years.
With unsolicited mail in voting, I will continue to receive a ballot at my current mailing address until I submit an address change or die (if the MD DOH notifies the MVA). If I move & don't update my address or die when out of state, that may not all happen automatically or quickly.
Thus, I see utility in requesting a ballot (online) for each election in which I want to vote, &, in the process, verifying I'm still alive & residing in my registered district.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... ad-voters/

Yes, tons of ballots are sent to dead people. Trump shouldn’t worry about them.
People die during the two-year lifespan of an election mailing list. But that doesn’t mean biased fraudsters scoop up those ballots.

Dead people do receive ballots in the mail...
Dead people get a lot of mail, not just ballots: They get magazine subscriptions, political ads, charitable solicitations, bills, veterans benefits, tax refunds and stimulus checks. This flow continues until someone notifies the sender of the recipient’s death, typically by returned mail, or the sender strikes the recipient from its mailing list. Every state has a record of all the people who were registered in the last election. That is their mailing list, and it is generally two years old.

By the time of the next election, however, a lot of those voters will have died. In 2018, 153 million Americans were registered to vote. Standard actuarial tables suggest that roughly 2.4 million of those voters died over the two-year election cycle. If no one has alerted an election board to those deaths, it is inevitable that at least two million dead people will be getting ballots in the mail if we adopt universal mail-in voting — which is the fault of neither the election boards nor the U.S. Postal Service.

The same is true of ballots mailed to people who have moved. Fourteen percent of households change residence every year, which means the number of ballots “incorrectly” directed could be as high as 40 million in any election cycle...

If voters have to request (on line) their mail in ballot, it's a fail safe which eliminates the dependence on all the other things happening automatically & promptly. ...& it's not an undue burden if you want to vote, no matter your color or political party.

How many years do you think a deceased person gets a tax refund? What is unsolicited mail in voting? You have to solicit a vote?

Unsolicited mail in voting = voting via an unsolicited ballot received in the mail.

Which is successfully safely and securely done in a bunch of states.

We get it. You're for making it harder to vote, not easier.

You say it's not because of 'color' or partisan reasons, you just want less voting???

Nah, we get it.

Are junk mail ballots sent to non registered voters?

My wife and I received an absentee ballot application for the woman who owned our house 15 years ago. I wanted to have some fun with it and return it and see what happened. The wife threw the application out. If the people in charge of voting kept track of their records and peoples birth dates they would have know Irma would be 110 years old. I'm guessing she would have wanted us to vote for Biden.

Your wife kept you from committing a felony, so kiss her on the cheek for that...

How were they going to catch us?

When they compare signatures....or they find out that she is dead.

There were alot of dead folks that voted for Kennedy in Chicago in 1960. Nobody ever figured out they were dead. You think they might have figured out the poor woman was dead after 15 years of inactivity. Besides, we would have made sure she voted for Biden. I'm thinking that would have been a good thing?

[Typical Lax Dad]

That may be true in CO where everybody on the rolls is sent an unsolicited mail in ballot.
That would not be true in the states where you have to request an absentee ballot.
It's what I've been saying all along. You've misinterpreted or misunderstood.

Respectfully, you're not thinking it through.

What happens when someone registers to vote in 2019, and dies before the Nov. 2020 election?

This, obviously, happens all the time. I thought you got this.

What happens is completely natural, and is EXPECTED by every State.....registered voters die all the time. Obviously.

In MD, my registration is updated when I renew my drivers lic, every 8 years.
With unsolicited mail in voting, I will continue to receive a ballot at my current mailing address until I submit an address change or die (if the MD DOH notifies the MVA). If I move & don't update my address or die when out of state, that may not all happen automatically or quickly.
Thus, I see utility in requesting a ballot (online) for each election in which I want to vote, &, in the process, verifying I'm still alive & residing in my registered district.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... ad-voters/

Yes, tons of ballots are sent to dead people. Trump shouldn’t worry about them.
People die during the two-year lifespan of an election mailing list. But that doesn’t mean biased fraudsters scoop up those ballots.

Dead people do receive ballots in the mail...
Dead people get a lot of mail, not just ballots: They get magazine subscriptions, political ads, charitable solicitations, bills, veterans benefits, tax refunds and stimulus checks. This flow continues until someone notifies the sender of the recipient’s death, typically by returned mail, or the sender strikes the recipient from its mailing list. Every state has a record of all the people who were registered in the last election. That is their mailing list, and it is generally two years old.

By the time of the next election, however, a lot of those voters will have died. In 2018, 153 million Americans were registered to vote. Standard actuarial tables suggest that roughly 2.4 million of those voters died over the two-year election cycle. If no one has alerted an election board to those deaths, it is inevitable that at least two million dead people will be getting ballots in the mail if we adopt universal mail-in voting — which is the fault of neither the election boards nor the U.S. Postal Service.

The same is true of ballots mailed to people who have moved. Fourteen percent of households change residence every year, which means the number of ballots “incorrectly” directed could be as high as 40 million in any election cycle...

If voters have to request (on line) their mail in ballot, it's a fail safe which eliminates the dependence on all the other things happening automatically & promptly. ...& it's not an undue burden if you want to vote, no matter your color or political party.

How many years do you think a deceased person gets a tax refund? What is unsolicited mail in voting? You have to solicit a vote?

Unsolicited mail in voting = voting via an unsolicited ballot received in the mail.

Which is successfully safely and securely done in a bunch of states.

We get it. You're for making it harder to vote, not easier.

You say it's not because of 'color' or partisan reasons, you just want less voting???

Nah, we get it.

Are junk mail ballots sent to non registered voters?

My wife and I received an absentee ballot application for the woman who owned our house 15 years ago. I wanted to have some fun with it and return it and see what happened. The wife threw the application out. If the people in charge of voting kept track of their records and peoples birth dates they would have know Irma would be 110 years old. I'm guessing she would have wanted us to vote for Biden. Why can't the dead vote so long as you know who they would have wanted you to vote for?

All the more reason to make it harder for living US citizens to vote.

[cradleandshoot]

Further to the conversation we were having yesterday concerning Trump's damage to the country. Trump is a traitor:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

"When President-elect Joe Biden is sworn into office on Jan. 20, the list of crises he will face includes a massive cyber intrusion, a still-raging global pandemic, a slowing economic recovery and a lingering reckoning over the nation’s racial tensions.

President Trump is not making his job any easier and, in several ways, appears to be actively making it harder — going to extraordinary lengths to disrupt and undermine the traditional transition from one administration to another despite the nation’s many crises.

Trump has sought to play down or even deny the still-expanding cybersecurity breach that many experts blame on Russia, even as its impact has spread to a growing number of federal agencies. The delayed and turbulent transition process could complicate the Biden administration’s ability to address the challenge and shore up the nation’s cyber defenses.

Trump has been far more vocal on other issues that have captured his focus, ranging from baseless claims of election fraud to a rolling purge of administration officials deemed not sufficiently loyal. In his final weeks in office, Trump is making a series of moves aimed at cementing his legacy and handicapping Biden’s presidency — from abruptly pulling troops from war zones to cracking down on Iran to encouraging the Justice Department to investigate his political enemies.

The result is a situation without precedent in American history: One president ending his term amid crisis is seeking to delegitimize a successor and floating the prospect of mounting a four-year campaign to return to power.

“In ordinary times and in the best of times, transitions are incredibly hard,” said Max Stier, president and chief executive of the nonpartisan Partnership for Public Service, adding that the number of challenges facing the country call for a smooth transition that does not resemble the current state of affairs.

“We live in a system where there’s one president” at a time, he said. “President Trump is still president. There are ways in which he’s not making it easier, but he’s making it harder.”

The White House pushed back in a lengthy statement listing what it described as Trump’s “unprecedented accomplishments” and fight against “the Swamp.”

“The American people elected Donald Trump as President for a four-year term, not until November 3, 2020,” White House spokesman Judd Deere said. “President Trump’s first term goes until January 20, 2021 as prescribed by the U.S. Constitution and he has every right to continue to advance policies that fulfill the commitments he made just as every President before him has done.”

Biden’s incoming administration has long described a “perfect storm” of four crises facing the country — the pandemic, economic distress, climate change and racial justice. It suddenly has another to add: a historic cyber intrusion into government networks that likely began months ago and could reverberate for months to come.

The organized attack has affected numerous federal agencies, American companies and institutions, with national security officials working around-the-clock to assess the scope and seriousness of the breach.

In a statement last week, Biden stopped short of attributing the hack to Russia but implicitly criticized the Trump administration for not having a forceful response.

“Our adversaries should know that, as president, I will not stand idly by in the face of cyber assaults on our nation,” he said Thursday.

While agency officials across the government are briefing the Biden team on the hack and a number of other issues, Trump is not expected to participate personally in the transition, according to officials close to him, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private deliberations.

The White House prevented Biden from receiving customary intelligence briefings for weeks as Trump complained about having to participate in the transition at all, according to officials.

The president has told advisers not to share information with Biden’s team that could be used against him, a senior administration official said.

Trump has refused to concede the election and sought to delegitimize Biden by claiming his victory was tainted by fraud. The traditional meeting between an outgoing president and an incoming successor, typically occurring at the White House and symbolizing the peaceful transfer of power, is unlikely to take place under Trump, officials said.

Trump’s administration is instead spending its final days trying to reshape the government Biden will take over and notch last-minute policy victories that could be difficult to overturn.

The president’s personnel team, led by personnel director Johnny McEntee, is rapidly installing loyalists across the government on boards and other powerful entities. Shortly before the election, Trump signed an executive order that would remake the federal civil service and potentially make it easier for him to place political allies into career positions that last well into the Biden administration.

Many of the jobs and board seats Trump is currently filling with longtime political allies had been left vacant for years. Now, the multiyear positions are being filled by people who regularly speak to Trump, such as White House aide Andrew Giuliani, former campaign manager Kellyanne Conway, former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski and Trump Organization lobbyist Brian Ballard.

It’s not uncommon for a president to fill open positions during the lame duck period. Former president Barack Obama made more than 100 such appointments after the November 2016 election, a period that also included several last-minute moves to cement his policy vision before ceding government to an opposing party.

Chase Untermeyer, who served as White House personnel director for former president George H.W. Bush, said his appointment to the U.S. Naval Academy’s Board of Visitors in the final weeks of Bush’s term was similar to Trump’s decision to fill boards and commissions with allies.

“Anything that Donald Trump may be trying right now has got quite a heritage,” he said, highlighting the “midnight appointment” moniker that dates back to 1801. After appointing a number of judges in his final days in office, outgoing president John Adams left town and refused to attend Thomas Jefferson’s inauguration.

While Trump could be following Adams’s example, his refusal to concede the race and talk of mounting another run for president in 2024 add a different flavor.

Trump has vowed not to back down in his attempts to overturn an election he clearly lost, and has entertained increasingly radical, if unlikely, strategies. In a meeting last week, for example, he discussed deploying the military to rerun the election — an idea shot down by aides — and appointing a special counsel on voter fraud.

Trump has mused to other aides about appointing a special prosecutor to investigate Biden’s son Hunter, though it is unclear if the Justice Department will actually do so, according to two advisers.

Trump, who accepted the resignation of Attorney General William P. Barr earlier this month, has also urged the Justice Department to back up his baseless claims of voter irregularities. So far, that effort has been unsuccessful — though it has convinced millions of Americans that Biden would not be a legitimate president.

Trump’s moves to handicap his successor also involve foreign policy, the latest signal that the idea of politics stopping at the waters’ edge may be a relic of the past.

At the Pentagon, Trump fired Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper after the election and abruptly announced a swift drawdown of troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. One former senior administration official said Trump’s precipitous withdrawals of troops in the Middle East could leave Biden “a real mess.”

“He’d do almost anything to complicate the life of Joe Biden,” the official said.

Yohannes Abraham, executive director of Biden’s transition, said Friday that while it is receiving cooperation from officials in several agencies, the Pentagon was among several “pockets of intransigence” hampering the president-elect’s team.

The comment came after acting defense secretary Chris Miller abruptly halted all briefings for the incoming administration and announced a “holiday pause” beginning Saturday.

Abraham disputed Miller’s claim that the Biden team had agreed to the pause.

“Let me be clear, there was no mutually agreed upon holiday break,” he told reporters Friday, adding that briefings should continue because “there’s no time to spare.”

Key career positions within the State Department and other agencies have been left empty, a result of the Trump administration’s years-long campaign against federal bureaucrats. One Biden adviser said they were taken aback at how decimated the federal government was below the top levels.

Biden’s ability to roll back Trump’s Iran policy could also be limited by late-stage moves by the president. Trump administration Iran hawks have worked for months to undermine what is left of the 2015 international nuclear deal, seeking new global sanctions on Iran at the United Nations and outside of it, adding unilateral U.S. sanctions that Iran would want to undo as a condition of fresh talks or a new deal.

U.S. sanctions announced Monday on Iranian officials the Trump administration say are to blame for the kidnapping and presumed death of an abducted American appear aimed at limiting Biden’s flexibility in any new negotiations.

“There should be no agreement negotiated with Iran ever again that doesn’t free Americans who are unjustly detained in that country,” a U.S. official told reporters, speaking on the condition of anonymity under rules imposed by the White House. “We all expect negotiations next year. That negotiation must include the return home of all the Americans unjustly detained in that country.”

Biden and lawmakers raise alarms over cybersecurity breach amid Trump’s silence

Iran itself has complicated any quick U.S. return to the 2015 Iran deal, which has been on life support since Trump’s unilateral withdrawal in 2018.

Iran is violating the deal by stockpiling enriched uranium, and conservative lawmakers in Tehran have imposed new requirements that appear designed to hamper any new negotiations. One new law directs Iran to speed up its production of enriched uranium and expel U.N. nuclear inspectors if key sanctions aren’t lifted by early February, about two weeks after Biden becomes president.

Both Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei and President Hassan Rouhani signaled willingness to reengage, however.

The Trump administration has also amped up rhetorical pressure on China over trade practices, human rights and more — redoubling efforts to shift blame on the way out the door.

Before last month’s election, Trump complained that losing the race would mean that Biden would take credit for work that began under his watch. He specifically mentioned vaccine development for the coronavirus pandemic and the economic recovery.

To be sure, even as Trump makes moves that could hamper Biden’s ability to govern, the rollout of the vaccine and burgeoning economic relief legislation could be two areas where the incoming administration would benefit from the lame-duck period.

But even those areas are not without drama, as some governors complain of vaccine shortages and lawmakers haggle over attempts to claw back the Federal Reserve’s emergency lending powers shortly before Biden takes over. The Treasury Department has already pulled the plug on some of the Fed programs, returning money Biden would’ve been able to use to prime the economy.

Trump’s suggestion that he may run for office again gives him a personal stake in seeing Biden fail. He will waste no time highlighting any stumbles by his successor, aides said. He is looking to begin campaigning in earnest soon and is likely to criticize Biden daily — a break from previous presidents who have at least temporarily stayed out of the fray.

“I think Trump is trying to seed the landscape with land mines,” said Chris Whipple, author of “The Spymasters” a book about the CIA. “He’s going to make the transition as painful as possible for Biden at every turn.”

"When President-elect Joe Biden is sworn into office on Jan. 20, the list of crises he will face includes a massive cyber intrusion, a still-raging global pandemic, a slowing economic recovery and a lingering reckoning over the nation’s racial tensions."

No biggie there Coaster... Joes got a plan. Come on maaaaaaan, you should know this. Your not getting ready to manufacture excuses for him if he can't make his plan work are you?

[cradleandshoot]

That may be true in CO where everybody on the rolls is sent an unsolicited mail in ballot.
That would not be true in the states where you have to request an absentee ballot.
It's what I've been saying all along. You've misinterpreted or misunderstood.

Respectfully, you're not thinking it through.

What happens when someone registers to vote in 2019, and dies before the Nov. 2020 election?

This, obviously, happens all the time. I thought you got this.

What happens is completely natural, and is EXPECTED by every State.....registered voters die all the time. Obviously.

In MD, my registration is updated when I renew my drivers lic, every 8 years.
With unsolicited mail in voting, I will continue to receive a ballot at my current mailing address until I submit an address change or die (if the MD DOH notifies the MVA). If I move & don't update my address or die when out of state, that may not all happen automatically or quickly.
Thus, I see utility in requesting a ballot (online) for each election in which I want to vote, &, in the process, verifying I'm still alive & residing in my registered district.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... ad-voters/

Yes, tons of ballots are sent to dead people. Trump shouldn’t worry about them.
People die during the two-year lifespan of an election mailing list. But that doesn’t mean biased fraudsters scoop up those ballots.

Dead people do receive ballots in the mail...
Dead people get a lot of mail, not just ballots: They get magazine subscriptions, political ads, charitable solicitations, bills, veterans benefits, tax refunds and stimulus checks. This flow continues until someone notifies the sender of the recipient’s death, typically by returned mail, or the sender strikes the recipient from its mailing list. Every state has a record of all the people who were registered in the last election. That is their mailing list, and it is generally two years old.

By the time of the next election, however, a lot of those voters will have died. In 2018, 153 million Americans were registered to vote. Standard actuarial tables suggest that roughly 2.4 million of those voters died over the two-year election cycle. If no one has alerted an election board to those deaths, it is inevitable that at least two million dead people will be getting ballots in the mail if we adopt universal mail-in voting — which is the fault of neither the election boards nor the U.S. Postal Service.

The same is true of ballots mailed to people who have moved. Fourteen percent of households change residence every year, which means the number of ballots “incorrectly” directed could be as high as 40 million in any election cycle...

If voters have to request (on line) their mail in ballot, it's a fail safe which eliminates the dependence on all the other things happening automatically & promptly. ...& it's not an undue burden if you want to vote, no matter your color or political party.

How many years do you think a deceased person gets a tax refund? What is unsolicited mail in voting? You have to solicit a vote?

Unsolicited mail in voting = voting via an unsolicited ballot received in the mail.

Which is successfully safely and securely done in a bunch of states.

We get it. You're for making it harder to vote, not easier.

You say it's not because of 'color' or partisan reasons, you just want less voting???

Nah, we get it.

Are junk mail ballots sent to non registered voters?

My wife and I received an absentee ballot application for the woman who owned our house 15 years ago. I wanted to have some fun with it and return it and see what happened. The wife threw the application out. If the people in charge of voting kept track of their records and peoples birth dates they would have know Irma would be 110 years old. I'm guessing she would have wanted us to vote for Biden. Why can't the dead vote so long as you know who they would have wanted you to vote for?

All the more reason to make it harder for living US citizens to vote.

You may not agree with me on this but... there are some living US citizens that probably should not be allowed to vote. That consists of dumb republicans and dumb democrats.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Yep. We should go back to the old days when it was easier to determine who was smart enough to vote. Bring back the literacy tests. They worked as intended.

[MDlaxfan76]

That may be true in CO where everybody on the rolls is sent an unsolicited mail in ballot.
That would not be true in the states where you have to request an absentee ballot.
It's what I've been saying all along. You've misinterpreted or misunderstood.

Respectfully, you're not thinking it through.

What happens when someone registers to vote in 2019, and dies before the Nov. 2020 election?

This, obviously, happens all the time. I thought you got this.

What happens is completely natural, and is EXPECTED by every State.....registered voters die all the time. Obviously.

In MD, my registration is updated when I renew my drivers lic, every 8 years.
With unsolicited mail in voting, I will continue to receive a ballot at my current mailing address until I submit an address change or die (if the MD DOH notifies the MVA). If I move & don't update my address or die when out of state, that may not all happen automatically or quickly.
Thus, I see utility in requesting a ballot (online) for each election in which I want to vote, &, in the process, verifying I'm still alive & residing in my registered district.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... ad-voters/

Yes, tons of ballots are sent to dead people. Trump shouldn’t worry about them.
People die during the two-year lifespan of an election mailing list. But that doesn’t mean biased fraudsters scoop up those ballots.

Dead people do receive ballots in the mail...
Dead people get a lot of mail, not just ballots: They get magazine subscriptions, political ads, charitable solicitations, bills, veterans benefits, tax refunds and stimulus checks. This flow continues until someone notifies the sender of the recipient’s death, typically by returned mail, or the sender strikes the recipient from its mailing list. Every state has a record of all the people who were registered in the last election. That is their mailing list, and it is generally two years old.

By the time of the next election, however, a lot of those voters will have died. In 2018, 153 million Americans were registered to vote. Standard actuarial tables suggest that roughly 2.4 million of those voters died over the two-year election cycle. If no one has alerted an election board to those deaths, it is inevitable that at least two million dead people will be getting ballots in the mail if we adopt universal mail-in voting — which is the fault of neither the election boards nor the U.S. Postal Service.

The same is true of ballots mailed to people who have moved. Fourteen percent of households change residence every year, which means the number of ballots “incorrectly” directed could be as high as 40 million in any election cycle...

If voters have to request (on line) their mail in ballot, it's a fail safe which eliminates the dependence on all the other things happening automatically & promptly. ...& it's not an undue burden if you want to vote, no matter your color or political party.

How many years do you think a deceased person gets a tax refund? What is unsolicited mail in voting? You have to solicit a vote?

Unsolicited mail in voting = voting via an unsolicited ballot received in the mail.

Which is successfully safely and securely done in a bunch of states.

We get it. You're for making it harder to vote, not easier.

You say it's not because of 'color' or partisan reasons, you just want less voting???

Nah, we get it.

Are junk mail ballots sent to non registered voters?

My wife and I received an absentee ballot application for the woman who owned our house 15 years ago. I wanted to have some fun with it and return it and see what happened. The wife threw the application out. If the people in charge of voting kept track of their records and peoples birth dates they would have know Irma would be 110 years old. I'm guessing she would have wanted us to vote for Biden.

Your wife kept you from committing a felony, so kiss her on the cheek for that...

How were they going to catch us? It was Irma's dirty work after all. It was in her name. Maybe they could dig her up and throw her in jail. Besides, I'm sure she would have wanted us to vote for Joe in her memory.

I doubt they'd have bothered, but her vote would have been kicked out for failure on the signature match...and they could have tracked back to your address, looked at the handwriting comparison with you and your wife...but I doubt they'd bother with the penny ante felony unless they were looking to make an example of someone...

[MDlaxfan76]

Thus, I see utility in requesting a ballot (online) for each election in which I want to vote, &, in the process, verifying I'm still alive & residing in my registered district.

That's great. That still won't eliminate the problem. No matter what you do, registered voters will die before an election.


You're trying to make it more difficult to vote, to solve a "problem" that doesn't exist.

Republicans will stop doing this when they realize that making it more difficult to vote remotely will cost them elections.

Then all the feigned concern will disappear.....

Did you notice no one brought up the importance of Voter ID this election? Gee, how come? Simple: the math wonks told Republican leadership to stop pushing for that. They know R's will lose elections if voting remotely for their elderly voters was removed as an option.

Geeezzz. It's not voting remotely. It's still voting by mail. You can just go online to request a mail in ballot, among other ways.

In MD, you can already register or update your address online.
https://elections.maryland.gov/voter_registration/

Assuming you have a computer and internet access.....which all resisted voters may not have.

Not all registered voters either...

Of course, that's the point...make it harder for poor folks...

Seriously, I have no issue with applying technology to make it easier and easier; that's a good thing...as long as there's lots of effort to make sure eligible voters aren't left behind.

[Typical Lax Dad]

That may be true in CO where everybody on the rolls is sent an unsolicited mail in ballot.
That would not be true in the states where you have to request an absentee ballot.
It's what I've been saying all along. You've misinterpreted or misunderstood.

Respectfully, you're not thinking it through.

What happens when someone registers to vote in 2019, and dies before the Nov. 2020 election?

This, obviously, happens all the time. I thought you got this.

What happens is completely natural, and is EXPECTED by every State.....registered voters die all the time. Obviously.

In MD, my registration is updated when I renew my drivers lic, every 8 years.
With unsolicited mail in voting, I will continue to receive a ballot at my current mailing address until I submit an address change or die (if the MD DOH notifies the MVA). If I move & don't update my address or die when out of state, that may not all happen automatically or quickly.
Thus, I see utility in requesting a ballot (online) for each election in which I want to vote, &, in the process, verifying I'm still alive & residing in my registered district.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... ad-voters/

Yes, tons of ballots are sent to dead people. Trump shouldn’t worry about them.
People die during the two-year lifespan of an election mailing list. But that doesn’t mean biased fraudsters scoop up those ballots.

Dead people do receive ballots in the mail...
Dead people get a lot of mail, not just ballots: They get magazine subscriptions, political ads, charitable solicitations, bills, veterans benefits, tax refunds and stimulus checks. This flow continues until someone notifies the sender of the recipient’s death, typically by returned mail, or the sender strikes the recipient from its mailing list. Every state has a record of all the people who were registered in the last election. That is their mailing list, and it is generally two years old.

By the time of the next election, however, a lot of those voters will have died. In 2018, 153 million Americans were registered to vote. Standard actuarial tables suggest that roughly 2.4 million of those voters died over the two-year election cycle. If no one has alerted an election board to those deaths, it is inevitable that at least two million dead people will be getting ballots in the mail if we adopt universal mail-in voting — which is the fault of neither the election boards nor the U.S. Postal Service.

The same is true of ballots mailed to people who have moved. Fourteen percent of households change residence every year, which means the number of ballots “incorrectly” directed could be as high as 40 million in any election cycle...

If voters have to request (on line) their mail in ballot, it's a fail safe which eliminates the dependence on all the other things happening automatically & promptly. ...& it's not an undue burden if you want to vote, no matter your color or political party.

How many years do you think a deceased person gets a tax refund? What is unsolicited mail in voting? You have to solicit a vote?

Unsolicited mail in voting = voting via an unsolicited ballot received in the mail.

Which is successfully safely and securely done in a bunch of states.

We get it. You're for making it harder to vote, not easier.

You say it's not because of 'color' or partisan reasons, you just want less voting???

Nah, we get it.

Are junk mail ballots sent to non registered voters?

My wife and I received an absentee ballot application for the woman who owned our house 15 years ago. I wanted to have some fun with it and return it and see what happened. The wife threw the application out. If the people in charge of voting kept track of their records and peoples birth dates they would have know Irma would be 110 years old. I'm guessing she would have wanted us to vote for Biden.

Your wife kept you from committing a felony, so kiss her on the cheek for that...

How were they going to catch us? It was Irma's dirty work after all. It was in her name. Maybe they could dig her up and throw her in jail. Besides, I'm sure she would have wanted us to vote for Joe in her memory.

I doubt they'd have bothered, but her vote would have been kicked out for failure on the signature match...and they could have tracked back to your address, looked at the handwriting comparison with you and your wife...but I doubt they'd bother with the penny ante felony unless they were looking to make an example of someone...

You mean like this....... https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... uppression

[MDlaxfan76]

That may be true in CO where everybody on the rolls is sent an unsolicited mail in ballot.
That would not be true in the states where you have to request an absentee ballot.
It's what I've been saying all along. You've misinterpreted or misunderstood.

Respectfully, you're not thinking it through.

What happens when someone registers to vote in 2019, and dies before the Nov. 2020 election?

This, obviously, happens all the time. I thought you got this.

What happens is completely natural, and is EXPECTED by every State.....registered voters die all the time. Obviously.

In MD, my registration is updated when I renew my drivers lic, every 8 years.
With unsolicited mail in voting, I will continue to receive a ballot at my current mailing address until I submit an address change or die (if the MD DOH notifies the MVA). If I move & don't update my address or die when out of state, that may not all happen automatically or quickly.
Thus, I see utility in requesting a ballot (online) for each election in which I want to vote, &, in the process, verifying I'm still alive & residing in my registered district.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... ad-voters/

Yes, tons of ballots are sent to dead people. Trump shouldn’t worry about them.
People die during the two-year lifespan of an election mailing list. But that doesn’t mean biased fraudsters scoop up those ballots.

Dead people do receive ballots in the mail...
Dead people get a lot of mail, not just ballots: They get magazine subscriptions, political ads, charitable solicitations, bills, veterans benefits, tax refunds and stimulus checks. This flow continues until someone notifies the sender of the recipient’s death, typically by returned mail, or the sender strikes the recipient from its mailing list. Every state has a record of all the people who were registered in the last election. That is their mailing list, and it is generally two years old.

By the time of the next election, however, a lot of those voters will have died. In 2018, 153 million Americans were registered to vote. Standard actuarial tables suggest that roughly 2.4 million of those voters died over the two-year election cycle. If no one has alerted an election board to those deaths, it is inevitable that at least two million dead people will be getting ballots in the mail if we adopt universal mail-in voting — which is the fault of neither the election boards nor the U.S. Postal Service.

The same is true of ballots mailed to people who have moved. Fourteen percent of households change residence every year, which means the number of ballots “incorrectly” directed could be as high as 40 million in any election cycle...

If voters have to request (on line) their mail in ballot, it's a fail safe which eliminates the dependence on all the other things happening automatically & promptly. ...& it's not an undue burden if you want to vote, no matter your color or political party.

How many years do you think a deceased person gets a tax refund? What is unsolicited mail in voting? You have to solicit a vote?

Unsolicited mail in voting = voting via an unsolicited ballot received in the mail.

Which is successfully safely and securely done in a bunch of states.

We get it. You're for making it harder to vote, not easier.

You say it's not because of 'color' or partisan reasons, you just want less voting???

Nah, we get it.

Are junk mail ballots sent to non registered voters?

My wife and I received an absentee ballot application for the woman who owned our house 15 years ago. I wanted to have some fun with it and return it and see what happened. The wife threw the application out. If the people in charge of voting kept track of their records and peoples birth dates they would have know Irma would be 110 years old. I'm guessing she would have wanted us to vote for Biden.

Your wife kept you from committing a felony, so kiss her on the cheek for that...

How were they going to catch us? It was Irma's dirty work after all. It was in her name. Maybe they could dig her up and throw her in jail. Besides, I'm sure she would have wanted us to vote for Joe in her memory.

I doubt they'd have bothered, but her vote would have been kicked out for failure on the signature match...and they could have tracked back to your address, looked at the handwriting comparison with you and your wife...but I doubt they'd bother with the penny ante felony unless they were looking to make an example of someone...

You mean like this....... https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... uppression

Yikes!
cradle,
Given your views about your Governor, better not do it voting for the GOP...

[Typical Lax Dad]

That may be true in CO where everybody on the rolls is sent an unsolicited mail in ballot.
That would not be true in the states where you have to request an absentee ballot.
It's what I've been saying all along. You've misinterpreted or misunderstood.

Respectfully, you're not thinking it through.

What happens when someone registers to vote in 2019, and dies before the Nov. 2020 election?

This, obviously, happens all the time. I thought you got this.

What happens is completely natural, and is EXPECTED by every State.....registered voters die all the time. Obviously.

In MD, my registration is updated when I renew my drivers lic, every 8 years.
With unsolicited mail in voting, I will continue to receive a ballot at my current mailing address until I submit an address change or die (if the MD DOH notifies the MVA). If I move & don't update my address or die when out of state, that may not all happen automatically or quickly.
Thus, I see utility in requesting a ballot (online) for each election in which I want to vote, &, in the process, verifying I'm still alive & residing in my registered district.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... ad-voters/

Yes, tons of ballots are sent to dead people. Trump shouldn’t worry about them.
People die during the two-year lifespan of an election mailing list. But that doesn’t mean biased fraudsters scoop up those ballots.

Dead people do receive ballots in the mail...
Dead people get a lot of mail, not just ballots: They get magazine subscriptions, political ads, charitable solicitations, bills, veterans benefits, tax refunds and stimulus checks. This flow continues until someone notifies the sender of the recipient’s death, typically by returned mail, or the sender strikes the recipient from its mailing list. Every state has a record of all the people who were registered in the last election. That is their mailing list, and it is generally two years old.

By the time of the next election, however, a lot of those voters will have died. In 2018, 153 million Americans were registered to vote. Standard actuarial tables suggest that roughly 2.4 million of those voters died over the two-year election cycle. If no one has alerted an election board to those deaths, it is inevitable that at least two million dead people will be getting ballots in the mail if we adopt universal mail-in voting — which is the fault of neither the election boards nor the U.S. Postal Service.

The same is true of ballots mailed to people who have moved. Fourteen percent of households change residence every year, which means the number of ballots “incorrectly” directed could be as high as 40 million in any election cycle...

If voters have to request (on line) their mail in ballot, it's a fail safe which eliminates the dependence on all the other things happening automatically & promptly. ...& it's not an undue burden if you want to vote, no matter your color or political party.

How many years do you think a deceased person gets a tax refund? What is unsolicited mail in voting? You have to solicit a vote?

Unsolicited mail in voting = voting via an unsolicited ballot received in the mail.

Which is successfully safely and securely done in a bunch of states.

We get it. You're for making it harder to vote, not easier.

You say it's not because of 'color' or partisan reasons, you just want less voting???

Nah, we get it.

Are junk mail ballots sent to non registered voters?

My wife and I received an absentee ballot application for the woman who owned our house 15 years ago. I wanted to have some fun with it and return it and see what happened. The wife threw the application out. If the people in charge of voting kept track of their records and peoples birth dates they would have know Irma would be 110 years old. I'm guessing she would have wanted us to vote for Biden.

Your wife kept you from committing a felony, so kiss her on the cheek for that...

How were they going to catch us? It was Irma's dirty work after all. It was in her name. Maybe they could dig her up and throw her in jail. Besides, I'm sure she would have wanted us to vote for Joe in her memory.

I doubt they'd have bothered, but her vote would have been kicked out for failure on the signature match...and they could have tracked back to your address, looked at the handwriting comparison with you and your wife...but I doubt they'd bother with the penny ante felony unless they were looking to make an example of someone...

You mean like this....... https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... uppression

Yikes!

Old Salt and C&S understand that this is a good example of the dangers to our system of voting.

[seacoaster]

Further to the conversation we were having yesterday concerning Trump's damage to the country. Trump is a traitor:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

"When President-elect Joe Biden is sworn into office on Jan. 20, the list of crises he will face includes a massive cyber intrusion, a still-raging global pandemic, a slowing economic recovery and a lingering reckoning over the nation’s racial tensions.

President Trump is not making his job any easier and, in several ways, appears to be actively making it harder — going to extraordinary lengths to disrupt and undermine the traditional transition from one administration to another despite the nation’s many crises.

Trump has sought to play down or even deny the still-expanding cybersecurity breach that many experts blame on Russia, even as its impact has spread to a growing number of federal agencies. The delayed and turbulent transition process could complicate the Biden administration’s ability to address the challenge and shore up the nation’s cyber defenses.

Trump has been far more vocal on other issues that have captured his focus, ranging from baseless claims of election fraud to a rolling purge of administration officials deemed not sufficiently loyal. In his final weeks in office, Trump is making a series of moves aimed at cementing his legacy and handicapping Biden’s presidency — from abruptly pulling troops from war zones to cracking down on Iran to encouraging the Justice Department to investigate his political enemies.

The result is a situation without precedent in American history: One president ending his term amid crisis is seeking to delegitimize a successor and floating the prospect of mounting a four-year campaign to return to power.

“In ordinary times and in the best of times, transitions are incredibly hard,” said Max Stier, president and chief executive of the nonpartisan Partnership for Public Service, adding that the number of challenges facing the country call for a smooth transition that does not resemble the current state of affairs.

“We live in a system where there’s one president” at a time, he said. “President Trump is still president. There are ways in which he’s not making it easier, but he’s making it harder.”

The White House pushed back in a lengthy statement listing what it described as Trump’s “unprecedented accomplishments” and fight against “the Swamp.”

“The American people elected Donald Trump as President for a four-year term, not until November 3, 2020,” White House spokesman Judd Deere said. “President Trump’s first term goes until January 20, 2021 as prescribed by the U.S. Constitution and he has every right to continue to advance policies that fulfill the commitments he made just as every President before him has done.”

Biden’s incoming administration has long described a “perfect storm” of four crises facing the country — the pandemic, economic distress, climate change and racial justice. It suddenly has another to add: a historic cyber intrusion into government networks that likely began months ago and could reverberate for months to come.

The organized attack has affected numerous federal agencies, American companies and institutions, with national security officials working around-the-clock to assess the scope and seriousness of the breach.

In a statement last week, Biden stopped short of attributing the hack to Russia but implicitly criticized the Trump administration for not having a forceful response.

“Our adversaries should know that, as president, I will not stand idly by in the face of cyber assaults on our nation,” he said Thursday.

While agency officials across the government are briefing the Biden team on the hack and a number of other issues, Trump is not expected to participate personally in the transition, according to officials close to him, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private deliberations.

The White House prevented Biden from receiving customary intelligence briefings for weeks as Trump complained about having to participate in the transition at all, according to officials.

The president has told advisers not to share information with Biden’s team that could be used against him, a senior administration official said.

Trump has refused to concede the election and sought to delegitimize Biden by claiming his victory was tainted by fraud. The traditional meeting between an outgoing president and an incoming successor, typically occurring at the White House and symbolizing the peaceful transfer of power, is unlikely to take place under Trump, officials said.

Trump’s administration is instead spending its final days trying to reshape the government Biden will take over and notch last-minute policy victories that could be difficult to overturn.

The president’s personnel team, led by personnel director Johnny McEntee, is rapidly installing loyalists across the government on boards and other powerful entities. Shortly before the election, Trump signed an executive order that would remake the federal civil service and potentially make it easier for him to place political allies into career positions that last well into the Biden administration.

Many of the jobs and board seats Trump is currently filling with longtime political allies had been left vacant for years. Now, the multiyear positions are being filled by people who regularly speak to Trump, such as White House aide Andrew Giuliani, former campaign manager Kellyanne Conway, former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski and Trump Organization lobbyist Brian Ballard.

It’s not uncommon for a president to fill open positions during the lame duck period. Former president Barack Obama made more than 100 such appointments after the November 2016 election, a period that also included several last-minute moves to cement his policy vision before ceding government to an opposing party.

Chase Untermeyer, who served as White House personnel director for former president George H.W. Bush, said his appointment to the U.S. Naval Academy’s Board of Visitors in the final weeks of Bush’s term was similar to Trump’s decision to fill boards and commissions with allies.

“Anything that Donald Trump may be trying right now has got quite a heritage,” he said, highlighting the “midnight appointment” moniker that dates back to 1801. After appointing a number of judges in his final days in office, outgoing president John Adams left town and refused to attend Thomas Jefferson’s inauguration.

While Trump could be following Adams’s example, his refusal to concede the race and talk of mounting another run for president in 2024 add a different flavor.

Trump has vowed not to back down in his attempts to overturn an election he clearly lost, and has entertained increasingly radical, if unlikely, strategies. In a meeting last week, for example, he discussed deploying the military to rerun the election — an idea shot down by aides — and appointing a special counsel on voter fraud.

Trump has mused to other aides about appointing a special prosecutor to investigate Biden’s son Hunter, though it is unclear if the Justice Department will actually do so, according to two advisers.

Trump, who accepted the resignation of Attorney General William P. Barr earlier this month, has also urged the Justice Department to back up his baseless claims of voter irregularities. So far, that effort has been unsuccessful — though it has convinced millions of Americans that Biden would not be a legitimate president.

Trump’s moves to handicap his successor also involve foreign policy, the latest signal that the idea of politics stopping at the waters’ edge may be a relic of the past.

At the Pentagon, Trump fired Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper after the election and abruptly announced a swift drawdown of troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. One former senior administration official said Trump’s precipitous withdrawals of troops in the Middle East could leave Biden “a real mess.”

“He’d do almost anything to complicate the life of Joe Biden,” the official said.

Yohannes Abraham, executive director of Biden’s transition, said Friday that while it is receiving cooperation from officials in several agencies, the Pentagon was among several “pockets of intransigence” hampering the president-elect’s team.

The comment came after acting defense secretary Chris Miller abruptly halted all briefings for the incoming administration and announced a “holiday pause” beginning Saturday.

Abraham disputed Miller’s claim that the Biden team had agreed to the pause.

“Let me be clear, there was no mutually agreed upon holiday break,” he told reporters Friday, adding that briefings should continue because “there’s no time to spare.”

Key career positions within the State Department and other agencies have been left empty, a result of the Trump administration’s years-long campaign against federal bureaucrats. One Biden adviser said they were taken aback at how decimated the federal government was below the top levels.

Biden’s ability to roll back Trump’s Iran policy could also be limited by late-stage moves by the president. Trump administration Iran hawks have worked for months to undermine what is left of the 2015 international nuclear deal, seeking new global sanctions on Iran at the United Nations and outside of it, adding unilateral U.S. sanctions that Iran would want to undo as a condition of fresh talks or a new deal.

U.S. sanctions announced Monday on Iranian officials the Trump administration say are to blame for the kidnapping and presumed death of an abducted American appear aimed at limiting Biden’s flexibility in any new negotiations.

“There should be no agreement negotiated with Iran ever again that doesn’t free Americans who are unjustly detained in that country,” a U.S. official told reporters, speaking on the condition of anonymity under rules imposed by the White House. “We all expect negotiations next year. That negotiation must include the return home of all the Americans unjustly detained in that country.”

Biden and lawmakers raise alarms over cybersecurity breach amid Trump’s silence

Iran itself has complicated any quick U.S. return to the 2015 Iran deal, which has been on life support since Trump’s unilateral withdrawal in 2018.

Iran is violating the deal by stockpiling enriched uranium, and conservative lawmakers in Tehran have imposed new requirements that appear designed to hamper any new negotiations. One new law directs Iran to speed up its production of enriched uranium and expel U.N. nuclear inspectors if key sanctions aren’t lifted by early February, about two weeks after Biden becomes president.

Both Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei and President Hassan Rouhani signaled willingness to reengage, however.

The Trump administration has also amped up rhetorical pressure on China over trade practices, human rights and more — redoubling efforts to shift blame on the way out the door.

Before last month’s election, Trump complained that losing the race would mean that Biden would take credit for work that began under his watch. He specifically mentioned vaccine development for the coronavirus pandemic and the economic recovery.

To be sure, even as Trump makes moves that could hamper Biden’s ability to govern, the rollout of the vaccine and burgeoning economic relief legislation could be two areas where the incoming administration would benefit from the lame-duck period.

But even those areas are not without drama, as some governors complain of vaccine shortages and lawmakers haggle over attempts to claw back the Federal Reserve’s emergency lending powers shortly before Biden takes over. The Treasury Department has already pulled the plug on some of the Fed programs, returning money Biden would’ve been able to use to prime the economy.

Trump’s suggestion that he may run for office again gives him a personal stake in seeing Biden fail. He will waste no time highlighting any stumbles by his successor, aides said. He is looking to begin campaigning in earnest soon and is likely to criticize Biden daily — a break from previous presidents who have at least temporarily stayed out of the fray.

“I think Trump is trying to seed the landscape with land mines,” said Chris Whipple, author of “The Spymasters” a book about the CIA. “He’s going to make the transition as painful as possible for Biden at every turn.”

"When President-elect Joe Biden is sworn into office on Jan. 20, the list of crises he will face includes a massive cyber intrusion, a still-raging global pandemic, a slowing economic recovery and a lingering reckoning over the nation’s racial tensions."

No biggie there Coaster... Joes got a plan. Come on maaaaaaan, you should know this. Your not getting ready to manufacture excuses for him if he can't make his plan work are you?

Biggie. I'm not manufacturing anything; the departing President and his enablers are, again, deliberately trying to make the already nearly insuperable job facing the next President more difficult. Can you focus a little on just how f*cking malignant that is?

[cradleandshoot]

Further to the conversation we were having yesterday concerning Trump's damage to the country. Trump is a traitor:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

"When President-elect Joe Biden is sworn into office on Jan. 20, the list of crises he will face includes a massive cyber intrusion, a still-raging global pandemic, a slowing economic recovery and a lingering reckoning over the nation’s racial tensions.

President Trump is not making his job any easier and, in several ways, appears to be actively making it harder — going to extraordinary lengths to disrupt and undermine the traditional transition from one administration to another despite the nation’s many crises.

Trump has sought to play down or even deny the still-expanding cybersecurity breach that many experts blame on Russia, even as its impact has spread to a growing number of federal agencies. The delayed and turbulent transition process could complicate the Biden administration’s ability to address the challenge and shore up the nation’s cyber defenses.

Trump has been far more vocal on other issues that have captured his focus, ranging from baseless claims of election fraud to a rolling purge of administration officials deemed not sufficiently loyal. In his final weeks in office, Trump is making a series of moves aimed at cementing his legacy and handicapping Biden’s presidency — from abruptly pulling troops from war zones to cracking down on Iran to encouraging the Justice Department to investigate his political enemies.

The result is a situation without precedent in American history: One president ending his term amid crisis is seeking to delegitimize a successor and floating the prospect of mounting a four-year campaign to return to power.

“In ordinary times and in the best of times, transitions are incredibly hard,” said Max Stier, president and chief executive of the nonpartisan Partnership for Public Service, adding that the number of challenges facing the country call for a smooth transition that does not resemble the current state of affairs.

“We live in a system where there’s one president” at a time, he said. “President Trump is still president. There are ways in which he’s not making it easier, but he’s making it harder.”

The White House pushed back in a lengthy statement listing what it described as Trump’s “unprecedented accomplishments” and fight against “the Swamp.”

“The American people elected Donald Trump as President for a four-year term, not until November 3, 2020,” White House spokesman Judd Deere said. “President Trump’s first term goes until January 20, 2021 as prescribed by the U.S. Constitution and he has every right to continue to advance policies that fulfill the commitments he made just as every President before him has done.”

Biden’s incoming administration has long described a “perfect storm” of four crises facing the country — the pandemic, economic distress, climate change and racial justice. It suddenly has another to add: a historic cyber intrusion into government networks that likely began months ago and could reverberate for months to come.

The organized attack has affected numerous federal agencies, American companies and institutions, with national security officials working around-the-clock to assess the scope and seriousness of the breach.

In a statement last week, Biden stopped short of attributing the hack to Russia but implicitly criticized the Trump administration for not having a forceful response.

“Our adversaries should know that, as president, I will not stand idly by in the face of cyber assaults on our nation,” he said Thursday.

While agency officials across the government are briefing the Biden team on the hack and a number of other issues, Trump is not expected to participate personally in the transition, according to officials close to him, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private deliberations.

The White House prevented Biden from receiving customary intelligence briefings for weeks as Trump complained about having to participate in the transition at all, according to officials.

The president has told advisers not to share information with Biden’s team that could be used against him, a senior administration official said.

Trump has refused to concede the election and sought to delegitimize Biden by claiming his victory was tainted by fraud. The traditional meeting between an outgoing president and an incoming successor, typically occurring at the White House and symbolizing the peaceful transfer of power, is unlikely to take place under Trump, officials said.

Trump’s administration is instead spending its final days trying to reshape the government Biden will take over and notch last-minute policy victories that could be difficult to overturn.

The president’s personnel team, led by personnel director Johnny McEntee, is rapidly installing loyalists across the government on boards and other powerful entities. Shortly before the election, Trump signed an executive order that would remake the federal civil service and potentially make it easier for him to place political allies into career positions that last well into the Biden administration.

Many of the jobs and board seats Trump is currently filling with longtime political allies had been left vacant for years. Now, the multiyear positions are being filled by people who regularly speak to Trump, such as White House aide Andrew Giuliani, former campaign manager Kellyanne Conway, former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski and Trump Organization lobbyist Brian Ballard.

It’s not uncommon for a president to fill open positions during the lame duck period. Former president Barack Obama made more than 100 such appointments after the November 2016 election, a period that also included several last-minute moves to cement his policy vision before ceding government to an opposing party.

Chase Untermeyer, who served as White House personnel director for former president George H.W. Bush, said his appointment to the U.S. Naval Academy’s Board of Visitors in the final weeks of Bush’s term was similar to Trump’s decision to fill boards and commissions with allies.

“Anything that Donald Trump may be trying right now has got quite a heritage,” he said, highlighting the “midnight appointment” moniker that dates back to 1801. After appointing a number of judges in his final days in office, outgoing president John Adams left town and refused to attend Thomas Jefferson’s inauguration.

While Trump could be following Adams’s example, his refusal to concede the race and talk of mounting another run for president in 2024 add a different flavor.

Trump has vowed not to back down in his attempts to overturn an election he clearly lost, and has entertained increasingly radical, if unlikely, strategies. In a meeting last week, for example, he discussed deploying the military to rerun the election — an idea shot down by aides — and appointing a special counsel on voter fraud.

Trump has mused to other aides about appointing a special prosecutor to investigate Biden’s son Hunter, though it is unclear if the Justice Department will actually do so, according to two advisers.

Trump, who accepted the resignation of Attorney General William P. Barr earlier this month, has also urged the Justice Department to back up his baseless claims of voter irregularities. So far, that effort has been unsuccessful — though it has convinced millions of Americans that Biden would not be a legitimate president.

Trump’s moves to handicap his successor also involve foreign policy, the latest signal that the idea of politics stopping at the waters’ edge may be a relic of the past.

At the Pentagon, Trump fired Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper after the election and abruptly announced a swift drawdown of troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. One former senior administration official said Trump’s precipitous withdrawals of troops in the Middle East could leave Biden “a real mess.”

“He’d do almost anything to complicate the life of Joe Biden,” the official said.

Yohannes Abraham, executive director of Biden’s transition, said Friday that while it is receiving cooperation from officials in several agencies, the Pentagon was among several “pockets of intransigence” hampering the president-elect’s team.

The comment came after acting defense secretary Chris Miller abruptly halted all briefings for the incoming administration and announced a “holiday pause” beginning Saturday.

Abraham disputed Miller’s claim that the Biden team had agreed to the pause.

“Let me be clear, there was no mutually agreed upon holiday break,” he told reporters Friday, adding that briefings should continue because “there’s no time to spare.”

Key career positions within the State Department and other agencies have been left empty, a result of the Trump administration’s years-long campaign against federal bureaucrats. One Biden adviser said they were taken aback at how decimated the federal government was below the top levels.

Biden’s ability to roll back Trump’s Iran policy could also be limited by late-stage moves by the president. Trump administration Iran hawks have worked for months to undermine what is left of the 2015 international nuclear deal, seeking new global sanctions on Iran at the United Nations and outside of it, adding unilateral U.S. sanctions that Iran would want to undo as a condition of fresh talks or a new deal.

U.S. sanctions announced Monday on Iranian officials the Trump administration say are to blame for the kidnapping and presumed death of an abducted American appear aimed at limiting Biden’s flexibility in any new negotiations.

“There should be no agreement negotiated with Iran ever again that doesn’t free Americans who are unjustly detained in that country,” a U.S. official told reporters, speaking on the condition of anonymity under rules imposed by the White House. “We all expect negotiations next year. That negotiation must include the return home of all the Americans unjustly detained in that country.”

Biden and lawmakers raise alarms over cybersecurity breach amid Trump’s silence

Iran itself has complicated any quick U.S. return to the 2015 Iran deal, which has been on life support since Trump’s unilateral withdrawal in 2018.

Iran is violating the deal by stockpiling enriched uranium, and conservative lawmakers in Tehran have imposed new requirements that appear designed to hamper any new negotiations. One new law directs Iran to speed up its production of enriched uranium and expel U.N. nuclear inspectors if key sanctions aren’t lifted by early February, about two weeks after Biden becomes president.

Both Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei and President Hassan Rouhani signaled willingness to reengage, however.

The Trump administration has also amped up rhetorical pressure on China over trade practices, human rights and more — redoubling efforts to shift blame on the way out the door.

Before last month’s election, Trump complained that losing the race would mean that Biden would take credit for work that began under his watch. He specifically mentioned vaccine development for the coronavirus pandemic and the economic recovery.

To be sure, even as Trump makes moves that could hamper Biden’s ability to govern, the rollout of the vaccine and burgeoning economic relief legislation could be two areas where the incoming administration would benefit from the lame-duck period.

But even those areas are not without drama, as some governors complain of vaccine shortages and lawmakers haggle over attempts to claw back the Federal Reserve’s emergency lending powers shortly before Biden takes over. The Treasury Department has already pulled the plug on some of the Fed programs, returning money Biden would’ve been able to use to prime the economy.

Trump’s suggestion that he may run for office again gives him a personal stake in seeing Biden fail. He will waste no time highlighting any stumbles by his successor, aides said. He is looking to begin campaigning in earnest soon and is likely to criticize Biden daily — a break from previous presidents who have at least temporarily stayed out of the fray.

“I think Trump is trying to seed the landscape with land mines,” said Chris Whipple, author of “The Spymasters” a book about the CIA. “He’s going to make the transition as painful as possible for Biden at every turn.”

"When President-elect Joe Biden is sworn into office on Jan. 20, the list of crises he will face includes a massive cyber intrusion, a still-raging global pandemic, a slowing economic recovery and a lingering reckoning over the nation’s racial tensions."

No biggie there Coaster... Joes got a plan. Come on maaaaaaan, you should know this. Your not getting ready to manufacture excuses for him if he can't make his plan work are you?

Biggie. I'm not manufacturing anything; the departing President and his enablers are, again, deliberately trying to make the already nearly insuperable job facing the next President more difficult. Can you focus a little on just how f*cking malignant that is?

I know you are not manufacturing anything. Did you really think trump would just go away? It may be malignant but it was inevitable. Joe wanted this job and he now has it warts and all. GWB never anticipated the 9/11 attacks but that was the reality he had to deal with. Biden has a big advantage already. He already knows what his 9/11 was. Joe has told us he has a plan. Do you think his plan did not factor in that trump would not stand in the way? Do you really underestimate the trump factor that much. Biden has inherited the trump mess. You and your friends have been telling us he is more than up to the challenge. Time for Joe to prove you right wouldn't you say? Joe Biden is standing on the precipice of greatness or failure. I am hoping he is a huge success. America sure could use a hero right about now.

[ggait]

How were they going to catch us? It was Irma's dirty work after all. It was in her name. Maybe they could dig her up and throw her in jail. Besides, I'm sure she would have wanted us to vote for Joe in her memory.

1. This would be incredibly easy to detect and successfully prosecute.

2. Explain to me how this could possibly be scaled?

Because in order to rig an election (even at the level of township dog catcher) you'd have to figure out a way to do this systematically at a large enough scale to be outcome determinative (while being undetected). The answer -- it can't be done.

Salty and other Banana Republicans play such a sleazy and obvious game:

1. Go crazy over non-systematic, immaterial irregularities (which of course always happen and have always happened) which do not change outcomes.

2. Use #1 to justify systematic and material vote rigging and disenfranchisement that will change outcomes in favor of their partisan favorites.

Come on boys -- we can't let this democracy thing get out of hand. We shouldn't even be letting the women folk vote, much less all those brown/blacks!

[old salt]

Thus, I see utility in requesting a ballot (online) for each election in which I want to vote, &, in the process, verifying I'm still alive & residing in my registered district.

That's great. That still won't eliminate the problem. No matter what you do, registered voters will die before an election.


You're trying to make it more difficult to vote, to solve a "problem" that doesn't exist.

Republicans will stop doing this when they realize that making it more difficult to vote remotely will cost them elections.

Then all the feigned concern will disappear.....

Did you notice no one brought up the importance of Voter ID this election? Gee, how come? Simple: the math wonks told Republican leadership to stop pushing for that. They know R's will lose elections if voting remotely for their elderly voters was removed as an option.

Geeezzz. It's not voting remotely. It's still voting by mail. You can just go online to request a mail in ballot, among other ways.

In MD, you can already register or update your address online.
https://elections.maryland.gov/voter_registration/

Assuming you have a computer and internet access.....which all resisted voters may not have.

Not all registered voters either...

Of course, that's the point...make it harder for poor folks...

Seriously, I have no issue with applying technology to make it easier and easier; that's a good thing...as long as there's lots of effort to make sure eligible voters aren't left behind.

Read the entire link. There are multiple ways to register. There could be multiple ways to request a mail in ballot, including by phone. Now, everybody's got a phone or knows someone who does. Obama fixed that.

[Typical Lax Dad]

How were they going to catch us? It was Irma's dirty work after all. It was in her name. Maybe they could dig her up and throw her in jail. Besides, I'm sure she would have wanted us to vote for Joe in her memory.

1. This would be incredibly easy to detect and successfully prosecute.

2. Explain to me how this could possibly be scaled?

Because in order to rig an election (even at the level of township dog catcher) you'd have to figure out a way to do this systematically at a large enough scale to be outcome determinative (while being undetected). The answer -- it can't be done.

Salty and other Banana Republicans play such a sleazy and obvious game:

1. Go crazy over non-systematic, immaterial irregularities (which of course always happen and have always happened) which do not change outcomes.

2. Use #1 to justify systematic and material vote rigging and disenfranchisement that will change outcomes in favor of their partisan favorites.

Come on boys -- we can't let this democracy thing get out of hand. We shouldn't even be letting the women folk vote, much less all those brown/blacks!

Nope. Just a citizen concerned with the integrity of free and fair elections.

[old salt]

Nope, it's a friction to voting and you know it. And you know that ballots mailed to all without request is successfully securely and safely done in lots of states, so the security issue is clearly bogus (assuming solid processes as described).

Share with us how you're outraged at efforts to reduce voting and examples of such. It'll be interesting to know whether you oppose limiting drop boxes and polling places, moving polling places to where there's no public transportation, etc...

Nope, you're far more versed in how to make it harder to register to vote...

FTR -- this was posted nearly a month ago :

I'm for early voting in person on the Sat-Sun-Mon before election (& tabulation) Tues, retaining the EC, letting State Leg's decide on felons voting, no excuse absentee voting on solicited mail in ballots requested via internet or phone, drop boxes & letting election law be written by state legislatures rather than via pre-election DNC lawsuits in swing state courts.

My early voting comment means opening ALL polling places for 4 consecutive "election days". That does not preclude earlier voting at fewer sites, as we have now. Drop boxes to be video monitored for security & to prevent ballot harvesting drops.

What have I proposed that makes it harder to register ? Motor voter & tie in with social services makes registration nearly automatic.