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[Typical Lax Dad]

Defense One reported this today in their Daily Brief about Afghanistan :

No comment on the massive Russian hack, o.s.?

Yesterday, in a different thread

Shouldn’t you be telling us how Russia is irrelevant and not a threat some more?

Change your password, segment your network & don't get lap dances from Russian or Chinese girls.

And ABSOLUTELY none of those efforts will make ANY DIFFERENCE. The hack is too deep. One of the ways they got in was through hacking a widely used network management tool (by hacking update files to provide back doors). They are in and have been in the networks for MONTHS. And quietly installing back doors since they had the keys to the kingdom. (Oh and BTW I used to deal with this stuff professionally.)

The US government was caught with its pants down and Trump and his minions in the WH have been crippling CISA for quite some time now. Their vaunted specialized tool to catch this saw some traces that it could not identify, and it was not until one of the private security firms discovered they were hacked themselves that this got found out.

This is bad enough that at any time the Russkies could potentially start the process of crippling the US government (unsecured) networks. This one is BAD.

So you don't think segmenting our networks might reduce damage from intrusions like this ?

...& of course it's Trump's fault, everything is. What was done, specifically, to cripple CISA that allowed this ?

There was embedded malware in software update that was purchased by the US govt & a large number of private users, right ?
Is CISA the only agency checking this stuff ? CISA wasn't even created until 2018, right ?

I am saying (segmentation) that closing the barn door after the horses are out does not work. It may be useful in standing up new networks built from the ground up that might replace the existing ones - but because of where the attack happened, even the routers and switches (and especially the firewalls) might be affected. So you might have to rebuild in parallel with new hardware/virtual networks.

Crippling of CISA by pushing out senior officials has been documented in the WaPo - and the general removal of functions and reworking them has had their toll before CISA was formed. And no - they are not the only ones checking but would be expected now to lead the process of rooting out a very imbedded foe.

But Trump has been wrecking administrative functions for most of his tenure, due to his "fight" against the "deep state". He did this with the pandemic response plans as well - remember?

As far as the software update - yes they did. That does not lessen the FACT that the government could not detect the problem for several months. And even now the president seems to be so detached from active management of ANYTHING that he cannot be trusted to deal with the problem. He is trying to deflect blame to China, which does not seem to be supported by any evidence (other than the fact that he just won't criticize Putin/Russia to save his life).

[old salt]

Defense One reported this today in their Daily Brief about Afghanistan :

No comment on the massive Russian hack, o.s.?

Yesterday, in a different thread

Shouldn’t you be telling us how Russia is irrelevant and not a threat some more?

Change your password, segment your network & don't get lap dances from Russian or Chinese girls.

And ABSOLUTELY none of those efforts will make ANY DIFFERENCE. The hack is too deep. One of the ways they got in was through hacking a widely used network management tool (by hacking update files to provide back doors). They are in and have been in the networks for MONTHS. And quietly installing back doors since they had the keys to the kingdom. (Oh and BTW I used to deal with this stuff professionally.)

The US government was caught with its pants down and Trump and his minions in the WH have been crippling CISA for quite some time now. Their vaunted specialized tool to catch this saw some traces that it could not identify, and it was not until one of the private security firms discovered they were hacked themselves that this got found out.

This is bad enough that at any time the Russkies could potentially start the process of crippling the US government (unsecured) networks. This one is BAD.

So you don't think segmenting our networks might reduce damage from intrusions like this ?

...& of course it's Trump's fault, everything is. What was done, specifically, to cripple CISA that allowed this ?

There was embedded malware in software update that was purchased by the US govt & a large number of private users, right ?
Is CISA the only agency checking this stuff ? CISA wasn't even created until 2018, right ?

I am saying (segmentation) that closing the barn door after the horses are out does not work. It may be useful in standing up new networks built from the ground up that might replace the existing ones - but because of where the attack happened, even the routers and switches (and especially the firewalls) might be affected. So you might have to rebuild in parallel with new hardware/virtual networks.
That's my point. We have a built in vulnerability by such widespread dependence on a single source.

Crippling of CISA by pushing out senior officials has been documented in the WaPo - and the general removal of functions and reworking them has had their toll before CISA was formed. And no - they are not the only ones checking but would be expected now to lead the process of rooting out a very imbedded foe.Specifics please.

But Trump has been wrecking administrative functions for most of his tenure, due to his "fight" against the "deep state". He did this with the pandemic response plans as well - remember?That's a general "sky is falling" complaint. What is the process for checking for malware BEFORE it's installed ? Did Trump eliminate that ? Did it ever exist ? Or has the govt always just relied on the vendor ?

As far as the software update - yes they did. That does not lessen the FACT that the government could not detect the problem for several months. Why not ? And even now the president seems to be so detached from active management of ANYTHING that he cannot be trusted to deal with the problem. Do we even know the scope of the problem & how to correct it ? Do you want Trump to produce a ready-fire-aim solution in his final days ? Whatever he does, it'll be 2nd guessed. Let the transition team, agencies & industry work on it & the Biden Admin can oversee the fix & response. He is trying to deflect blame to China, which does not seem to be supported by any evidence (other than the fact that he just won't criticize Putin/Russia to save his life).

[PizzaSnake]

Defense One reported this today in their Daily Brief about Afghanistan :

No comment on the massive Russian hack, o.s.?

Yesterday, in a different thread

Shouldn’t you be telling us how Russia is irrelevant and not a threat some more?

Change your password, segment your network & don't get lap dances from Russian or Chinese girls.

And ABSOLUTELY none of those efforts will make ANY DIFFERENCE. The hack is too deep. One of the ways they got in was through hacking a widely used network management tool (by hacking update files to provide back doors). They are in and have been in the networks for MONTHS. And quietly installing back doors since they had the keys to the kingdom. (Oh and BTW I used to deal with this stuff professionally.)

The US government was caught with its pants down and Trump and his minions in the WH have been crippling CISA for quite some time now. Their vaunted specialized tool to catch this saw some traces that it could not identify, and it was not until one of the private security firms discovered they were hacked themselves that this got found out.

This is bad enough that at any time the Russkies could potentially start the process of crippling the US government (unsecured) networks. This one is BAD.

So you don't think segmenting our networks might reduce damage from intrusions like this ?

...& of course it's Trump's fault, everything is. What was done, specifically, to cripple CISA that allowed this ?

There was embedded malware in software update that was purchased by the US govt & a large number of private users, right ?
Is CISA the only agency checking this stuff ? CISA wasn't even created until 2018, right ?

“Bryant : I need ya, Deck. This is a bad one, the worst yet. I need the old blade runner, I need your magic.”

[DocBarrister]

France's new aircraft carrier (in 2038). Tres chic !

https://news.usni.org/2020/12/08/presid ... er-program

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... t-carrier/

2038??? It sure looks like they are not in a hurry to build it. The construction must be a union job if it is going to take 18 years to build it?

More than a light carrier ... but not quite a true super carrier.

Typical middling French endeavor.

DocBarrister

Question: Why are there so many tree lined streets in Paris?

Answer: Because Germans like to march in the shade.

An oldie but a goodie.

DocBarrister

[DocBarrister]

Defense One reported this today in their Daily Brief about Afghanistan :

No comment on the massive Russian hack, o.s.?

Maybe Orange Duce gave Putin the intel to break in to our systems during one of their private tete-a-tetes. Whispered sweet passcodes into his ear.

Not surprisingly, Donald Trump downplayed Russia’s massive hack and did his best to get Russia off the hook, trying to blame China instead.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white- ... a-n1251813

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump on Saturday downplayed the hacking campaign that has torn through U.S. government agencies and businesses that experts believe is the work of Russian intelligence, deflecting blame away from Russia and suggesting Chinese involvement while contradicting top officials in his own administration.

Trump's comments caught the White House off guard as they attempted to square the president's comments with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s remarks a day earlier saying that Russia was "pretty clearly" behind the hack, according to two officials with knowledge of the situation.

It’s pretty clear that Donald Trump is a traitor. As shocking as it may seem, the FBI never completed a counterintelligence investigation of Trump’s ties to Russia (they thought Mueller’s team was looking at that, but Rod Rosenstein told Mueller to stay out of that, while also failing to inform the FBI).

Biden’s administration won’t make that mistake. We will learn in time just how much Trump compromised American national security in service to his Master in Moscow.

DocBarrister

[Typical Lax Dad]

Defense One reported this today in their Daily Brief about Afghanistan :

No comment on the massive Russian hack, o.s.?

Yesterday, in a different thread

Shouldn’t you be telling us how Russia is irrelevant and not a threat some more?

Change your password, segment your network & don't get lap dances from Russian or Chinese girls.

And ABSOLUTELY none of those efforts will make ANY DIFFERENCE. The hack is too deep. One of the ways they got in was through hacking a widely used network management tool (by hacking update files to provide back doors). They are in and have been in the networks for MONTHS. And quietly installing back doors since they had the keys to the kingdom. (Oh and BTW I used to deal with this stuff professionally.)

The US government was caught with its pants down and Trump and his minions in the WH have been crippling CISA for quite some time now. Their vaunted specialized tool to catch this saw some traces that it could not identify, and it was not until one of the private security firms discovered they were hacked themselves that this got found out.

This is bad enough that at any time the Russkies could potentially start the process of crippling the US government (unsecured) networks. This one is BAD.

So you don't think segmenting our networks might reduce damage from intrusions like this ?

...& of course it's Trump's fault, everything is. What was done, specifically, to cripple CISA that allowed this ?

There was embedded malware in software update that was purchased by the US govt & a large number of private users, right ?
Is CISA the only agency checking this stuff ? CISA wasn't even created until 2018, right ?

I am saying (segmentation) that closing the barn door after the horses are out does not work. It may be useful in standing up new networks built from the ground up that might replace the existing ones - but because of where the attack happened, even the routers and switches (and especially the firewalls) might be affected. So you might have to rebuild in parallel with new hardware/virtual networks.
That's my point. We have a built in vulnerability by such widespread dependence on a single source.

Crippling of CISA by pushing out senior officials has been documented in the WaPo - and the general removal of functions and reworking them has had their toll before CISA was formed. And no - they are not the only ones checking but would be expected now to lead the process of rooting out a very imbedded foe.Specifics please.

But Trump has been wrecking administrative functions for most of his tenure, due to his "fight" against the "deep state". He did this with the pandemic response plans as well - remember?That's a general "sky is falling" complaint. What is the process for checking for malware BEFORE it's installed ? Did Trump eliminate that ? Did it ever exist ? Or has the govt always just relied on the vendor ?

As far as the software update - yes they did. That does not lessen the FACT that the government could not detect the problem for several months. Why not ? And even now the president seems to be so detached from active management of ANYTHING that he cannot be trusted to deal with the problem. Do we even know the scope of the problem & how to correct it ? Do you want Trump to produce a ready-fire-aim solution in his final days ? Whatever he does, it'll be 2nd guessed. Let the transition team, agencies & industry work on it & the Biden Admin can oversee the fix & response. He is trying to deflect blame to China, which does not seem to be supported by any evidence (other than the fact that he just won't criticize Putin/Russia to save his life).

Folks must not have gotten the “change your password memo” that you sent to Hillary.

[CU77]

...& of course it's Trump's fault, everything is.

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From the days when we had a POTUS who was not a Russian mole.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.defenseone.com/policy/2020/ ... sa/170913/

Latest moves by Putin.

[old salt]

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-48675203

US and Russia clash over power grid 'hack attacks'
18 June 2019
Russia has said it is "possible" that its electrical grid is under cyber-attack by the US.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said reports that US cyber-soldiers had put computer viruses on its electrical grid was a "hypothetical possibility".
His comments came in response to a New York Times (NYT) story which claimed US military hackers were targeting Russian power plants.
In its report the newspaper said American "code" had been deployed inside many elements of Russia's power network.

The Times said this was an escalation of other work the US was doing to combat Russian disinformation and hacking campaigns.
He said "vital areas" of Russia's economy were under continuous attack, but it had managed to counter the intrusions so they did no damage.

The malicious code was reportedly inserted by soldiers of the US Cyber Command. This group of military hackers is permitted to carry out "clandestine military activity" on computer networks under the aegis of the National Defense Authorization Act, which was passed in 2018.
The US has been probing Russian power systems since 2012, reported the NYT, but was now more interested in finding weaknesses and inserting viruses.

Ongoing t!t for tat ?

[cradleandshoot]

The Russians were able to pull this off while all of FLP America was chitting their pants about the Rooskies fixing our election.

FLPs don't run the gubmint, Trump does. Trump is Commander-in-Chief. The Secretary of Defense, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the head of Homeland Security: they all report to Trump.

Did Trump let the Russians walk in to our deepest secrets?

My money is on yes.

I thought the rooskies pulled off most of this stuff when some guy named Barack Obama was POTUS? I guess we can say the FLP and the FRC have chosen sides. The FLP are in bed with the chicoms and the FRC are bedded down with Putin.

[CU77]

I thought the rooskies pulled off most of this stuff when some guy named Barack Obama was POTUS?

Nope, this one dates from March 2020. The Donald had been POTUS for almost 4 years.

https://www.wired.com/story/russia-sola ... k-roundup/

I guess we can say the FLP and the FRC have chosen sides. The FLP are in bed with the chicoms and the FRC are bedded down with Putin.

Nope, I'm against the China dictator just as much as the Russia dictator. They're both really really bad dudes.

The Donald and his acolytes love the Ruskie dictator. Donald at least got paid, but his acolytes (you know who you are) have no excuse at all.

[cradleandshoot]

I thought the rooskies pulled off most of this stuff when some guy named Barack Obama was POTUS?

Nope, this one dates from March 2020. The Donald had been POTUS for almost 4 years.

https://www.wired.com/story/russia-sola ... k-roundup/

I guess we can say the FLP and the FRC have chosen sides. The FLP are in bed with the chicoms and the FRC are bedded down with Putin.

Nope, I'm against the China dictator just as much as the Russia dictator. They're both really really bad dudes.

The Donald and his acolytes love the Ruskie dictator. Donald at least got paid, but his acolytes (you know who you are) have no excuse at all.

All the Dems need is a brandy new reset button. Who knows, maybe HRC has another one floating around in her bag of tricks.

[old salt]

@09:37 the CEO of Fireeye about this hack & how they discovered it. Good stuff.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/face-the- ... ia-daly/#x

...a sniper round, not a drive by shooting...it was special operations & would take special operations to detect...utterly clandestine, through a back door in the supply chain...continuing game in cyber space...same threat actors we've responded to in the '90's & '00's.... just one campaign in a long battle in cyberspace...only 50 organizations or companies genuinely impacted...wait 'til we're 100% sure (coming soon) before we finger Russia, hang a neon sign on them, then respond proportionately....establishing our doctrine on how we will respond to future attacks.

[foreverlax]

1. Russians interfered in the 2016 election....that is a fact.

2. Trump has been tougher on Russia then anyone...this is opinion.

3. Russia hacks us on a epic level....this is a fact.

Whatever Trump did in response to '16, seems to have had no impact.....see #3

[MDlaxfan76]

I thought the rooskies pulled off most of this stuff when some guy named Barack Obama was POTUS?

Nope, this one dates from March 2020. The Donald had been POTUS for almost 4 years.

https://www.wired.com/story/russia-sola ... k-roundup/

I guess we can say the FLP and the FRC have chosen sides. The FLP are in bed with the chicoms and the FRC are bedded down with Putin.

Nope, I'm against the China dictator just as much as the Russia dictator. They're both really really bad dudes.

The Donald and his acolytes love the Ruskie dictator. Donald at least got paid, but his acolytes (you know who you are) have no excuse at all.

well, I think it's fair to say that at least some of Trump's "acolytes" have been paid by Russia or their proxies...or want to be..

[Typical Lax Dad]

@09:37 the CEO of Fireeye about this hack & how they discovered it. Good stuff.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/face-the- ... ia-daly/#x

...a sniper round, not a drive by shooting...it was special operations & would take special operations to detect...utterly clandestine, through a back door in the supply chain...continuing game in cyber space...same threat actors we've responded to in the '90's & '00's.... just one campaign in a long battle in cyberspace...only 50 organizations or companies genuinely impacted...wait 'til we're 100% sure (coming soon) before we finger Russia, hang a neon sign on them, then respond proportionately....establishing our doctrine on how we will respond to future attacks.

These people should have taken YOUR ADVICE and changed their passwords regularly.

[old salt]

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... rsian-gulf

The transit of the USS Georgia, on the surface, through the Strait of Hormuz into the Persian Gulf is drawing much attention. Along with 2 guided missile cruisers, that concentrates a lot of capability in a relatively small area. This follows the recent rocket attack by Iranian proxies on the US Embassy in Baghdad's green zone. Impressive video in one of the tweets of US defensive systems intercepting the incoming rockets.

Our 4 Ohio class SSGN's are valuable, cost effective naval assets. When START limited the size of our ballistic missile submarine (SSBN) fleet, we had 4 excess subs with decades of remaining service life. They were repurposed to carry 154 cruise missiles & 66 SEALs with mini-sub(s), along with other undersea warfare innovations.

Trump has made it clear -- if an American is killed, we will respond. Iran is taking a risk with these attacks by their proxies.

[old salt]

Good S&S article on how the effort by Congress to block Trump's drawdown/redeployment of troops from Germany is a factor in his threat to veto the NDAA.

If Congress & Biden are successful in thwarting this drawdown, I predict -- we'll keep the same force structure in Germany & deploy even more forces to E & SE EUrope. The 2 front, global Cold War is back, boys & girls.

https://www.stripes.com/news/europe/pro ... l-1.654176

Mitt's still on the phone with the 1980's, discussing foreign policy :
https://www.romney.senate.gov/senate-pa ... -air-force
Provision to support the continued presence of U.S. forces in Germany and limits Department of Defense’s ability to reduce the number active-duty service members in Germany below 34,500 until a complete assessment on its impact on U.S. national security and our allies, the cost for relocating infrastructure, and our military families.

[foreverlax]

Good S&S article on how the effort by Congress to block Trump's drawdown/redeployment of troops from Germany is a factor in his threat to veto the NDAA.

If Congress & Biden are successful in thwarting this drawdown, I predict -- we'll keep the same force structure in Germany & deploy even more forces to E & SE EUrope. The 2 front, global Cold War is back, boys & girls.

https://www.stripes.com/news/europe/pro ... l-1.654176

Mitt's still on the phone with the 1980's, discussing foreign policy :
https://www.romney.senate.gov/senate-pa ... -air-force
Provision to support the continued presence of U.S. forces in Germany and limits Department of Defense’s ability to reduce the number active-duty service members in Germany below 34,500 until a complete assessment on its impact on U.S. national security and our allies, the cost for relocating infrastructure, and our military families.

Just wondering how you get the same level of confidential information that a Senator does.....

[Farfromgeneva]

Russian hack?