All things CoronaVirus

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How many of your friends and family members have died of the Chinese Corona Virus?

0 people
45
64%
1 person.
10
14%
2 people.
3
4%
3 people.
5
7%
More.
7
10%
 
Total votes: 70

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wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:06 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:55 am
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:46 am
CU88 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:59 am Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security
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US #COVID19 cases:

1st case to 1M - 96 days
1 to 2M- 44 days
2 to 3M- 27 days
3 to 4M - 15 days
4 to 5M - 17 days
5 to 6M - 22 days
6 to 7M - 25 days
7 to 8M - 21 days
8 to 9M - 14 days
9 to 10M- 10 days
10 to 11M- 7 days
11 to 12M- 5 days
12 to 13M- 7 days
13 to 14M - 5 days

12/4/20, 2:46 PM
we're doing more tests. if we didn't test so much, there wouldn't be cases.

thanksgiving holiday made the last 10 days screwy. tests were even well down for the first time. this coming week should put us back on track to see what kind of progression is happening.
Do I take it that you think the acceleration in infections may be even faster than the above indicates?

The other metric that's very concerning is hospitalizations.
no idea. anecdotal reports (someone on fanlax maybe even chimed in with an experience) were that tests were being saved up a bit for a possible post-thanksgiving rush. last week and a half coulda been anything. people travelling, folks taking "check up or check in" tests but not really covid candidates otherwise weren't getting them for their job or whatever. or reporting backed up.
like i said, screwy. we'll know more in the next week, more likely 2 as the past 7 days don't give a good comparison.

was in a hospital last night. ghost town. very low incidence in our community compared to a lot of places, though. someone's gonna need to tell the docs there about joe's new mask ask.
Well, (apparently) the positivity rate has been going up, coupled with the increasing daily pace, so if accurate (I have no idea) that testing was down a bit, then indeed we might well surmise that the infection has been growing even more rapidly than what's shown in the progression of the list.

Not something that means much materially to me, though, as the pace of that list is really, really bad as it is. Doesn't really matter whether it's Even worse...it's going the wrong direction.

The growth rate in hospitalizations is what makes this thing particularly concerning, regardless of the accuracy of the rest.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:25 pm
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:06 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:55 am
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:46 am
CU88 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:59 am Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security
⁦‪@JHSPH_CHS‬⁩

US #COVID19 cases:

1st case to 1M - 96 days
1 to 2M- 44 days
2 to 3M- 27 days
3 to 4M - 15 days
4 to 5M - 17 days
5 to 6M - 22 days
6 to 7M - 25 days
7 to 8M - 21 days
8 to 9M - 14 days
9 to 10M- 10 days
10 to 11M- 7 days
11 to 12M- 5 days
12 to 13M- 7 days
13 to 14M - 5 days

12/4/20, 2:46 PM
we're doing more tests. if we didn't test so much, there wouldn't be cases.

thanksgiving holiday made the last 10 days screwy. tests were even well down for the first time. this coming week should put us back on track to see what kind of progression is happening.
Do I take it that you think the acceleration in infections may be even faster than the above indicates?

The other metric that's very concerning is hospitalizations.
no idea. anecdotal reports (someone on fanlax maybe even chimed in with an experience) were that tests were being saved up a bit for a possible post-thanksgiving rush. last week and a half coulda been anything. people travelling, folks taking "check up or check in" tests but not really covid candidates otherwise weren't getting them for their job or whatever. or reporting backed up.
like i said, screwy. we'll know more in the next week, more likely 2 as the past 7 days don't give a good comparison.

was in a hospital last night. ghost town. very low incidence in our community compared to a lot of places, though. someone's gonna need to tell the docs there about joe's new mask ask.
Well, (apparently) the positivity rate has been going up, coupled with the increasing daily pace, so if accurate (I have no idea) that testing was down a bit, then indeed we might well surmise that the infection has been growing even more rapidly than what's shown in the progression of the list.

Not something that means much materially to me, though, as the pace of that list is really, really bad as it is. Doesn't really matter whether it's Even worse...it's going the wrong direction.

The growth rate in hospitalizations is what makes this thing particularly concerning, regardless of the accuracy of the rest.
The stays in hospitals have been cut in half from Spring I believe. My neighbor is a lead nurse in a major DC hospital, she said it is pure chaos with people coming in with the sniffles, scared to death they have COVID, demanding a tests. Fear of this thing has turned people in to zombies.
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youthathletics wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:44 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:25 pm
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:06 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:55 am
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:46 am
CU88 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:59 am Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security
⁦‪@JHSPH_CHS‬⁩

US #COVID19 cases:

1st case to 1M - 96 days
1 to 2M- 44 days
2 to 3M- 27 days
3 to 4M - 15 days
4 to 5M - 17 days
5 to 6M - 22 days
6 to 7M - 25 days
7 to 8M - 21 days
8 to 9M - 14 days
9 to 10M- 10 days
10 to 11M- 7 days
11 to 12M- 5 days
12 to 13M- 7 days
13 to 14M - 5 days

12/4/20, 2:46 PM
we're doing more tests. if we didn't test so much, there wouldn't be cases.

thanksgiving holiday made the last 10 days screwy. tests were even well down for the first time. this coming week should put us back on track to see what kind of progression is happening.
Do I take it that you think the acceleration in infections may be even faster than the above indicates?

The other metric that's very concerning is hospitalizations.
no idea. anecdotal reports (someone on fanlax maybe even chimed in with an experience) were that tests were being saved up a bit for a possible post-thanksgiving rush. last week and a half coulda been anything. people travelling, folks taking "check up or check in" tests but not really covid candidates otherwise weren't getting them for their job or whatever. or reporting backed up.
like i said, screwy. we'll know more in the next week, more likely 2 as the past 7 days don't give a good comparison.

was in a hospital last night. ghost town. very low incidence in our community compared to a lot of places, though. someone's gonna need to tell the docs there about joe's new mask ask.
Well, (apparently) the positivity rate has been going up, coupled with the increasing daily pace, so if accurate (I have no idea) that testing was down a bit, then indeed we might well surmise that the infection has been growing even more rapidly than what's shown in the progression of the list.

Not something that means much materially to me, though, as the pace of that list is really, really bad as it is. Doesn't really matter whether it's Even worse...it's going the wrong direction.

The growth rate in hospitalizations is what makes this thing particularly concerning, regardless of the accuracy of the rest.
The stays in hospitals have been cut in half from Spring I believe. My neighbor is a lead nurse in a major DC hospital, she said it is pure chaos with people coming in with the sniffles, scared to death they have COVID, demanding a tests. Fear of this thing has turned people in to zombies.
How many dead were reported today....I know.... those people died last month. Virus is over.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-ne ... lion-cases
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TLD, stop acting like you care about the dead.......when you don't even care about the living. They were all out in bars, drinking anyway :? :? :? :?
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youthathletics wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:44 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:25 pm
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:06 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:55 am
wgdsr wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:46 am
CU88 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:59 am Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security
⁦‪@JHSPH_CHS‬⁩

US #COVID19 cases:

1st case to 1M - 96 days
1 to 2M- 44 days
2 to 3M- 27 days
3 to 4M - 15 days
4 to 5M - 17 days
5 to 6M - 22 days
6 to 7M - 25 days
7 to 8M - 21 days
8 to 9M - 14 days
9 to 10M- 10 days
10 to 11M- 7 days
11 to 12M- 5 days
12 to 13M- 7 days
13 to 14M - 5 days

12/4/20, 2:46 PM
we're doing more tests. if we didn't test so much, there wouldn't be cases.

thanksgiving holiday made the last 10 days screwy. tests were even well down for the first time. this coming week should put us back on track to see what kind of progression is happening.
Do I take it that you think the acceleration in infections may be even faster than the above indicates?

The other metric that's very concerning is hospitalizations.
no idea. anecdotal reports (someone on fanlax maybe even chimed in with an experience) were that tests were being saved up a bit for a possible post-thanksgiving rush. last week and a half coulda been anything. people travelling, folks taking "check up or check in" tests but not really covid candidates otherwise weren't getting them for their job or whatever. or reporting backed up.
like i said, screwy. we'll know more in the next week, more likely 2 as the past 7 days don't give a good comparison.

was in a hospital last night. ghost town. very low incidence in our community compared to a lot of places, though. someone's gonna need to tell the docs there about joe's new mask ask.
Well, (apparently) the positivity rate has been going up, coupled with the increasing daily pace, so if accurate (I have no idea) that testing was down a bit, then indeed we might well surmise that the infection has been growing even more rapidly than what's shown in the progression of the list.

Not something that means much materially to me, though, as the pace of that list is really, really bad as it is. Doesn't really matter whether it's Even worse...it's going the wrong direction.

The growth rate in hospitalizations is what makes this thing particularly concerning, regardless of the accuracy of the rest.
The stays in hospitals have been cut in half from Spring I believe. My neighbor is a lead nurse in a major DC hospital, she said it is pure chaos with people coming in with the sniffles, scared to death they have COVID, demanding a tests. Fear of this thing has turned people in to zombies.
Indeed, time in hospital has lessened as have deaths per hospitalization for Covid. The docs have learned a lot and some of the therapies have helped, apparently.

Yet, nevertheless, the # of hospitalizations of active Covid cases (not sniffles) are currently escalating rapidly as are the # of daily deaths. Note that hospitalizations is not new patients (nor those with sniffles getting tested) but rather the accumulation of those still in hospital, with Covid, under serious care.

Back in the spring, the deaths typically came 3-5 weeks after the actual hospitalization...they struggled to keep folks alive but ultimately lost those battles. They're losing fewer of those battles (per hospitalization) now, perhaps because patients are encouraged to get early care when the new therapies appear to have the most beneficial impact.

Looks like the positivity rate is spiking in DC. After a really rough spring (low testing/high rate), and a bumpy summer, DC got their positivity rate below 3% from mid August thru the end of October but it then began to climb, with a recent big jump to 5.6%. So, people may well be coming in at higher rates for testing, but the % actually having Covid is climbing too.
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ABV 8.3% wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:09 am TLD, stop acting like you care about the dead.......when you don't even care about the living. They were all out in bars, drinking anyway :? :? :? :?
I do care....I hope the Pats win today.
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There's an old story about how God punishes. This illustrates it quite well:


https://twitter.com/Cleavon_MD/status/1 ... 4311321602

  • Bob Bryant, 58, pastor at the Water of Life Community Church in San Bernardino County, California died from COVID-19, five weeks after his megachurch REOPENED in DEFIANCE of the state’s ban on indoor religious services.


Says one commentator,

This is a common occurrence among “Christians” that oppose any restrictions on their “religious freedom”, believing that this is what it’s all about. What happens? Their “religious freedom” turns around and bites them on the ass. They get sick and die. It’s a death cult.

That is an undeniable truth.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:16 am
ABV 8.3% wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:09 am TLD, stop acting like you care about the dead.......when you don't even care about the living. They were all out in bars, drinking anyway :? :? :? :?
I do care....I hope the Pats win today.
huh?.....What the heck is the nfl playing games. essential?
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This is a great watch. No problems with our medical community Not at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShiwHR5OvtM
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ABV 8.3% wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:33 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:16 am
ABV 8.3% wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:09 am TLD, stop acting like you care about the dead.......when you don't even care about the living. They were all out in bars, drinking anyway :? :? :? :?
I do care....I hope the Pats win today.
huh?.....What the heck is the nfl playing games. essential?
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ABV 8.3% wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:45 am This is a great watch. No problems with our medical community Not at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShiwHR5OvtM
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Kismet wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:14 am https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/31/co ... -response/

"Trump Has Sabotaged America’s Coronavirus Response
As it improvises its way through a public health crisis, the United States has never been less prepared for a pandemic.

The epidemic control efforts unfolding today in China—including placing some 100 million citizens on lockdown, shutting down a national holiday, building enormous quarantine hospitals in days’ time, and ramping up 24-hour manufacturing of medical equipment—are indeed gargantuan. It’s impossible to watch them without wondering, “What would we do? How would my government respond if this virus spread across my country?”

For the United States, the answers are especially worrying because the government has intentionally rendered itself incapable. In 2018, the Trump administration fired the government’s entire pandemic response chain of command, including the White House management infrastructure. In numerous phone calls and emails with key agencies across the U.S. government, the only consistent response I encountered was distressed confusion. If the United States still has a clear chain of command for pandemic response, the White House urgently needs to clarify what it is

If the United States still has a clear chain of command for pandemic response, the White House urgently needs to clarify what it is—not just for the public but for the government itself, which largely finds itself in the dark."
Hey look, AFAN. from way back. the narrative. . .....this is in reference to the 69 pg. pandemic playbook. Did you read the 69 page "playbook", afan?

this IS the fear porn I refer too.
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ABV 8.3% wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:42 pm
Kismet wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:14 am https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/31/co ... -response/

"Trump Has Sabotaged America’s Coronavirus Response
As it improvises its way through a public health crisis, the United States has never been less prepared for a pandemic.

The epidemic control efforts unfolding today in China—including placing some 100 million citizens on lockdown, shutting down a national holiday, building enormous quarantine hospitals in days’ time, and ramping up 24-hour manufacturing of medical equipment—are indeed gargantuan. It’s impossible to watch them without wondering, “What would we do? How would my government respond if this virus spread across my country?”

For the United States, the answers are especially worrying because the government has intentionally rendered itself incapable. In 2018, the Trump administration fired the government’s entire pandemic response chain of command, including the White House management infrastructure. In numerous phone calls and emails with key agencies across the U.S. government, the only consistent response I encountered was distressed confusion. If the United States still has a clear chain of command for pandemic response, the White House urgently needs to clarify what it is

If the United States still has a clear chain of command for pandemic response, the White House urgently needs to clarify what it is—not just for the public but for the government itself, which largely finds itself in the dark."
Hey look, AFAN. from way back. the narrative. . .....this is in reference to the 69 pg. pandemic playbook. Did you read the 69 page "playbook", afan?

this IS the fear porn I refer too.
Ok. If you want to communicate? You're gonna have to give us full, complete sentences....and clarify your actual points.

So for example, I have no clue what the above post has to do with fear, let alone fear porn.

You're not communicating clearly. This is why so many ignore you. I'm sure you have good points-----you just have to make it so your point makes it on to the page. Because we can't guess at what your post means here.....
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a fan wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:53 pm
CU88 wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:31 am
Catbird wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:01 am https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ken-cucc ... 29cf618d35

We're screwed.
Anyone with half a brain expects this BS from o d and his ilk. Knowledge is Bad.

How soon until there is a Sharpie to fix the Coronavirus map???
The free market will sort it out.
how was this comment helpful? just having fun?
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Trinity wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:57 pm https://www.vox.com/2020/2/25/21150574/ ... s-cdc-cuts

Trump’s flailing incompetence....
So early on........incompetence in February?

Nope.....the politics never entered a scientific problem. not on this thread.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:16 am
I do care....I hope the Pats win today.
Patriots fan? Ignore list for you...
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ABV 8.3% wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:47 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:53 pm
CU88 wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:31 am
Catbird wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:01 am https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ken-cucc ... 29cf618d35

We're screwed.
Anyone with half a brain expects this BS from o d and his ilk. Knowledge is Bad.

How soon until there is a Sharpie to fix the Coronavirus map???
The free market will sort it out.
how was this comment helpful? just having fun?
Old Petey was a leave it up to free markets guy....keep up.
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ABV 8.3% wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:52 pm
Trinity wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:57 pm https://www.vox.com/2020/2/25/21150574/ ... s-cdc-cuts

Trump’s flailing incompetence....
So early on........incompetence in February?

Nope.....the politics never entered a scientific problem. not on this thread.
You STILL think that the scientists-----who are subordinates to our politicians------are the one's who deserve all the blame for how we handled things?

Scientists aren't running the show, or calling the shots. And if they were? Given how mad you were about any shutdowns or limitations on movements...starting way back in the spring? You would have been LIVID if they were in charge.

Leadership gets blamed when they don't lead well. That's how it works. But you don't seem to get that, so you hand us your "Orange man bad" complaint. There's NO WAY you don't understand how much damage Trump has done with how he handled this pandemic. We have millions and millions of Americans who think Covid is fake. Who think the numbers of dead are made up. Who think wearing a stupid, tiny mask is akin to the fall of America.

You seem to think that blaming our leaders for their failings isn't cool enough, and we have to find someone else to blame.
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a fan wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:11 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:52 pm
Trinity wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:57 pm https://www.vox.com/2020/2/25/21150574/ ... s-cdc-cuts

Trump’s flailing incompetence....
So early on........incompetence in February?

Nope.....the politics never entered a scientific problem. not on this thread.
You STILL think that the scientists-----who are subordinates to our politicians------are the one's who deserve all the blame for how we handled things?

Scientists aren't running the show, or calling the shots. And if they were? Given how mad you were about any shutdowns or limitations on movements...starting way back in the spring? You would have been LIVID if they were in charge.

Leadership gets blamed when they don't lead well. That's how it works. But you don't seem to get that, so you hand us your "Orange man bad" complaint. There's NO WAY you don't understand how much damage Trump has done with how he handled this pandemic. We have millions and millions of Americans who think Covid is fake. Who think the numbers of dead are made up. Who think wearing a stupid, tiny mask is akin to the fall of America.

You seem to think that blaming our leaders for their failings isn't cool enough, and we have to find someone else to blame.
just wow....you are all over the place. and, have NO idea what I think. In what world is a scientist "subordinate" to a politician? Must have missed that in civic lessons.

Dr. Fauci shares no responsibility for the confusion on how things are handled? W.H.O. ? Bill Gates?
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ABV 8.3% wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:13 pm just wow....you are all over the place.
Pot meet kettle.
ABV 8.3% wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:13 pm ....and, have NO idea what I think.
That's not my fault. Write more clearly.
ABV 8.3% wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:13 pm In what world is a scientist "subordinate" to a politician? Must have missed that in civic lessons.
Obviously, you did. Want an organizational chart that shows where the CDC sits in our Federal Government?

And would you like a reminder as to who is at the top of the organizational chart for our Executive Branch?

ABV 8.3% wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:13 pm Dr. Fauci shares no responsibility for the confusion on how things are handled?
Who does Fauci work for? And when Fauci writes his book, what you're telling me is that you're so naive that you're going to be surprised when Fauci writes in his book that TeamTrump pressured Fauci to say things he didn't want to say?

Come on. Enough with your contrarianism. You won't lose points if you say one bad thing about Trump.
ABV 8.3% wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:13 pm W.H.O. ? Bill Gates?
You're REALLY going to blame Bill Gates for how the United States handled the pandemic. Yet at the same time, the President of the United States not only gets a pass from you....if anyone says Trump is an idiot? You trot out Orange man bad.
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