All things CoronaVirus

[ABV 8.3%]

I believe you are sincere. Sincerely, I do believe your apology.


Now, about getting a vaccine? DocB has the answers as to how to get one? jhu72?

Clearly, you are of the understanding that someone who tested positive for covid will NOT be getting a vaccine.

I've had pneumonia........several times. Stupid to get a shot, right?

If you had the flu, do you get vaccinated?

according to you, no.

[a fan]

Don't they communicate via internet?

And who maintains the internet? Elves?

Nope. Didn't. Nor elder care facilities. Or prisons, or prisons, or the US Coast guard.

Yes you did forget. So who runs the hospitals. And where do they get supplies from? And who works on the vaccine during your two week shut down?

Nope...not needed if everyone has to stay inside, at home. I did mention drones, correct?

Now you're just being intentionally silly. You know we need police, fire, ER rooms. People don't stop dying and getting hurt in a pandemic.

You state there are no "write moves", and bash me for having "all" answers. Which is it?

Yep. I stand corrected. You came up with wrong moves. Well done, take a bow. You can't shut everything down for two weeks.

Food spoils. People need water. And trash service. And, and, and.

So, lets hash out your concerns. Cops, fire, hospitals, etc. Infrastructure. Is this really that big of a challenge? We don't need cops jerking off to porn on the side of the highway waiting for the speedsters, do we? Did I mention drones? We have security cams everywhere. Stay at home, right?

Who runs the drones? And maintains our internet? You're being intentionally silly.

And what is it you think is going to happen in two weeks of shut downs?

You forgot gasoline production, dock workers

I didn't forget any of it. YOU did. You can't shut everything down for two weeks, and you know it. If you REALLY think that? This conversation is over, because you're too far gone to have a conversation.

because, after all, getting that new 100inch TV screen IS SO ESSENTIAL. If no one is driving, no need for gas. No need for media. You wanna learn something, pick up the phone and CALL someone.

Who maintains your phone lines? Elves?

no wrong answers, unless it's me....got it.

Yep. Because no one is silly enough to think that you can shut EVERYTHING down. So you're right, and I was wrong. You came up with a "wrong move"

As for what would I do? You could pick pretty much any Governor in any State. I would have done similar things. Try and mitigate the damage as best as possible, knowing that people are going to die and get hammered economically. And hope Congress helps with the economic damage.

[ABV 8.3%]

malarky......as in Ed .

almost a thousand pages on this thread, and your conclusion is "meh, they tried" ?

we find zero posts from you bashing tRump? zero, as in none?

regarding all your lists, all can be done remotely.

oh no, the internet doesn't work........how in the world are you gonna make gin without the internet?

My household, because we counted, contains over 200 DVDs'. Can't you wait two weeks if the netflix server goes down?

on my list to watch this week

Arrested Development, season 2
Kelly's Hero's
Exudus

Do books exist

[Typical Lax Dad]

I believe you are sincere. Sincerely, I do believe your apology.


Now, about getting a vaccine? DocB has the answers as to how to get one? jhu72?

Clearly, you are of the understanding that someone who tested positive for covid will NOT be getting a vaccine.

I've had pneumonia........several times. Stupid to get a shot, right?

If you had the flu, do you get vaccinated?

according to you, no.

You walking into a doctor’s office with the flu and getting vaccinated? Rephrase your question, Cap’n.

[ABV 8.3%]

Don't they communicate via internet?

And who maintains the internet? Elves? it can be fixed on day 15

Nope. Didn't. Nor elder care facilities. Or prisons, or prisons, or the US Coast guard.

Yes you did forget. So who runs the hospitals. And where do they get supplies from? And who works on the vaccine during your two week shut down? they stockpile supplies, like they already do. I've been to their warehouses, you?

Nope...not needed if everyone has to stay inside, at home. I did mention drones, correct?

Now you're just being intentionally silly. You know we need police, fire, ER rooms. People don't stop dying and getting hurt in a pandemic.

You state there are no "write moves", and bash me for having "all" answers. Which is it?

Yep. I stand corrected. You came up with wrong moves. Well done, take a bow. You can't shut everything down for two weeks.

Food spoils. People need water. And trash service. And, and, and. food spoils? do you own a fridge?

So, lets hash out your concerns. Cops, fire, hospitals, etc. Infrastructure. Is this really that big of a challenge? We don't need cops jerking off to porn on the side of the highway waiting for the speedsters, do we? Did I mention drones? We have security cams everywhere. Stay at home, right?

Who runs the drones? And maintains our internet? You're being intentionally silly.

And what is it you think is going to happen in two weeks of shut downs?

You forgot gasoline production, dock workers

I didn't forget any of it. YOU did. You can't shut everything down for two weeks, and you know it. If you REALLY think that? This conversation is over, because you're too far gone to have a conversation.

because, after all, getting that new 100inch TV screen IS SO ESSENTIAL. If no one is driving, no need for gas. No need for media. You wanna learn something, pick up the phone and CALL someone.

Who maintains your phone lines? Elves? wow, lots of things break in two weeks in your world. they can wait.

no wrong answers, unless it's me....got it.

Yep. Because no one is silly enough to think that you can shut EVERYTHING down. So you're right, and I was wrong. You came up with a "wrong move"

As for what would I do? You could pick pretty much any Governor in any State. I would have done similar things. Try and mitigate the damage as best as possible, knowing that people are going to die and get hammered economically. And hope Congress helps with the economic damage. lame, vague answer. How does one MITIGATE the damage? hopes and prayers. actions, louder than

[ABV 8.3%]

I believe you are sincere. Sincerely, I do believe your apology.


Now, about getting a vaccine? DocB has the answers as to how to get one? jhu72?

Clearly, you are of the understanding that someone who tested positive for covid will NOT be getting a vaccine.

I've had pneumonia........several times. Stupid to get a shot, right?

If you had the flu, do you get vaccinated?

according to you, no.

You walking into a doctor’s office with the flu and getting vaccinated? Rephrase your question, Cap’n.

V19, not talking about the flu

still can't answer.

[Typical Lax Dad]

I believe you are sincere. Sincerely, I do believe your apology.


Now, about getting a vaccine? DocB has the answers as to how to get one? jhu72?

Clearly, you are of the understanding that someone who tested positive for covid will NOT be getting a vaccine.

I've had pneumonia........several times. Stupid to get a shot, right?

If you had the flu, do you get vaccinated?

according to you, no.

You walking into a doctor’s office with the flu and getting vaccinated? Rephrase your question, Cap’n.

V19, not talking about the flu

still can't answer.

If you are sick with Covid, I doubt a doctor will take your appointment for a vaccination...did you mean to ask another question?

[wgdsr]

I believe local jurisdictions should be making decisions based on community spread. Was the fall school year in your town carried out like last Spring or was it different?

didn't see this edit until abv's quote.

in the spring if i mentioned it, everything was closed down mid-march, online ramped up. county of dozens of schools set 3 grading options to get a calculation on your best grade, and 2 of them were with the expectation that zero work needed to be turned in, or online classes attended, for the next 3 months. needless to say, this led to the vast majority of students choosing that path. 80-90%?
that also then led to quite the battle with my senior, as all of his friends and others choosing to do zero work. 3rd option was a grade bump if you did the work the teachers had on their curriculum (a fraction of real work). which he was required to do for every class or pay rent. moved up almost 30 spots in his class.

for the fall, everything is still online. grading has changed to having to do actual work and attend classes, but tons of kids are failing (f's are up well over 100% as one metric, and not a small number. grades are down across the board.) what is being set out and also not "attending class", so i assume the grading will change to whisk kids thru.

the county board and supe in late june came up with what looked like a very comprehensive plan, with 2 option survey to start (hybrid or online) out to teachers, parents and population. results overwhelmingly came back hybrid, board voted for that to formalize... then a week or 2 later supe decided he wanted to bail on that. gifted/disability students were supposed to be able to come a couple times per week, but i think that got scrapped, too.

county of over 400k has had less than 570 hospitalizations (that equates to about 450k total hospitalizations for the u.s.) throughout the entire pandemic and is at some of its lowest levels now. since september 1, 26 deaths (that is a u.s. equivalent of 224 per day). just as low levels for the months prior to sep 1 also.

i've found that school openings have had little correlation to community spread in my state and nationwide, and much higher correlation to who is in charge. supe just got offered a job in a red state but don't know about his new district. should be interesting.

Thanks. Our kids in our town are hybrid and go to school in cohorts Last Spring it was all distant learning. My wife teaches two classes in person and two or three remote but that is college. Was all remote in the Spring after the break.

It is a mess. Black swan. I feel bad for kids in school but I don’t have an answer. I would have thought your district would have taken some life lessons and applied them to the fall.

our county is #1 in median per capita income in the country. not fairfield whales, but dispersed and suburbia. my hometown has 3 high schools and feeders. one hs fits the demographic. my hs is half county demographic, half well under. 3rd hs is well under. gangs, dropouts. there will be a bump in the 100s over several classes for that hs in gangs, dropouts. our school will see dozens. doesn't begin to measure the learning and educational cliff that will impact the 100,000 kids' futures, opportunities.

that's one town, u.s.a. and we're #1, some decent advantages. supe has a shiny new job, though. i do wish we as a populace looked at this differently, with more depth. won't happen, though, of course. hope our kids are a smarter generation than us, but we're not prepping them well. or maybe we are in the school of hard knocks and what not to do.

[Typical Lax Dad]

I believe local jurisdictions should be making decisions based on community spread. Was the fall school year in your town carried out like last Spring or was it different?

didn't see this edit until abv's quote.

in the spring if i mentioned it, everything was closed down mid-march, online ramped up. county of dozens of schools set 3 grading options to get a calculation on your best grade, and 2 of them were with the expectation that zero work needed to be turned in, or online classes attended, for the next 3 months. needless to say, this led to the vast majority of students choosing that path. 80-90%?
that also then led to quite the battle with my senior, as all of his friends and others choosing to do zero work. 3rd option was a grade bump if you did the work the teachers had on their curriculum (a fraction of real work). which he was required to do for every class or pay rent. moved up almost 30 spots in his class.

for the fall, everything is still online. grading has changed to having to do actual work and attend classes, but tons of kids are failing (f's are up well over 100% as one metric, and not a small number. grades are down across the board.) what is being set out and also not "attending class", so i assume the grading will change to whisk kids thru.

the county board and supe in late june came up with what looked like a very comprehensive plan, with 2 option survey to start (hybrid or online) out to teachers, parents and population. results overwhelmingly came back hybrid, board voted for that to formalize... then a week or 2 later supe decided he wanted to bail on that. gifted/disability students were supposed to be able to come a couple times per week, but i think that got scrapped, too.

county of over 400k has had less than 570 hospitalizations (that equates to about 450k total hospitalizations for the u.s.) throughout the entire pandemic and is at some of its lowest levels now. since september 1, 26 deaths (that is a u.s. equivalent of 224 per day). just as low levels for the months prior to sep 1 also.

i've found that school openings have had little correlation to community spread in my state and nationwide, and much higher correlation to who is in charge. supe just got offered a job in a red state but don't know about his new district. should be interesting.

Thanks. Our kids in our town are hybrid and go to school in cohorts Last Spring it was all distant learning. My wife teaches two classes in person and two or three remote but that is college. Was all remote in the Spring after the break.

It is a mess. Black swan. I feel bad for kids in school but I don’t have an answer. I would have thought your district would have taken some life lessons and applied them to the fall.

our county is #1 in median per capita income in the country. not fairfield whales, but dispersed and suburbia. my hometown has 3 high schools and feeders. one hs fits the demographic. my hs is half county demographic, half well under. 3rd hs is well under. gangs, dropouts. there will be a bump in the 100s over several classes for that hs in gangs, dropouts. our school will see dozens. doesn't begin to measure the learning and educational cliff that will impact the 100,000 kids' futures, opportunities.

that's one town, u.s.a. and we're #1, some decent advantages. supe has a shiny new job, though. i do wish we as a populace looked at this differently, with more depth. won't happen, though, of course. hope our kids are a smarter generation than us, but we're not prepping them well. or maybe we are in the school of hard knocks and what not to do.

There are no easy answers. Maybe we will be better prepared next time. Most people I have talked to with young kids here have managed. My neighbor across the street walked on to Syracuse hoops. His son is a junior in High School and I going to ask him what his experience has been. I feel bad for these kids but I don’t have the answer.

[ABV 8.3%]

Just moved my kid into a college apartment. The school is taking it super triple duper serious.

Telling kids they will get disciplined/expelled if they blow off the rules. And that their covidious misdeeds will go on their transcript which may turn out to be job/internship/career limiting.

Kids seems to also be taking it seriously too. I think they saw and were surprised/shocked how fast UNC and ND had to shut down.

Very much tbd how it will go.

bullcrap......clear violation of privacy laws.........

[a fan]

lame, vague answer. How does one MITIGATE the damage?

Same way every other nation did. Money direct to citizens. Money direct to businesses that you ask to shut down or limit capacity.

You're really just complaining to complain here.

You can't shut everything down for two weeks. You know this. Stop pretending like you're too stupid to understand that.

[ABV 8.3%]

I believe local jurisdictions should be making decisions based on community spread. Was the fall school year in your town carried out like last Spring or was it different?

didn't see this edit until abv's quote.

in the spring if i mentioned it, everything was closed down mid-march, online ramped up. county of dozens of schools set 3 grading options to get a calculation on your best grade, and 2 of them were with the expectation that zero work needed to be turned in, or online classes attended, for the next 3 months. needless to say, this led to the vast majority of students choosing that path. 80-90%?
that also then led to quite the battle with my senior, as all of his friends and others choosing to do zero work. 3rd option was a grade bump if you did the work the teachers had on their curriculum (a fraction of real work). which he was required to do for every class or pay rent. moved up almost 30 spots in his class.

for the fall, everything is still online. grading has changed to having to do actual work and attend classes, but tons of kids are failing (f's are up well over 100% as one metric, and not a small number. grades are down across the board.) what is being set out and also not "attending class", so i assume the grading will change to whisk kids thru.

the county board and supe in late june came up with what looked like a very comprehensive plan, with 2 option survey to start (hybrid or online) out to teachers, parents and population. results overwhelmingly came back hybrid, board voted for that to formalize... then a week or 2 later supe decided he wanted to bail on that. gifted/disability students were supposed to be able to come a couple times per week, but i think that got scrapped, too.

county of over 400k has had less than 570 hospitalizations (that equates to about 450k total hospitalizations for the u.s.) throughout the entire pandemic and is at some of its lowest levels now. since september 1, 26 deaths (that is a u.s. equivalent of 224 per day). just as low levels for the months prior to sep 1 also.

i've found that school openings have had little correlation to community spread in my state and nationwide, and much higher correlation to who is in charge. supe just got offered a job in a red state but don't know about his new district. should be interesting.

Thanks. Our kids in our town are hybrid and go to school in cohorts Last Spring it was all distant learning. My wife teaches two classes in person and two or three remote but that is college. Was all remote in the Spring after the break.

It is a mess. Black swan. I feel bad for kids in school but I don’t have an answer. I would have thought your district would have taken some life lessons and applied them to the fall.

our county is #1 in median per capita income in the country. not fairfield whales, but dispersed and suburbia. my hometown has 3 high schools and feeders. one hs fits the demographic. my hs is half county demographic, half well under. 3rd hs is well under. gangs, dropouts. there will be a bump in the 100s over several classes for that hs in gangs, dropouts. our school will see dozens. doesn't begin to measure the learning and educational cliff that will impact the 100,000 kids' futures, opportunities.

that's one town, u.s.a. and we're #1, some decent advantages. supe has a shiny new job, though. i do wish we as a populace looked at this differently, with more depth. won't happen, though, of course. hope our kids are a smarter generation than us, but we're not prepping them well. or maybe we are in the school of hard knocks and what not to do.

There are no easy answers. Maybe we will be better prepared next time. Most people I have talked to with young kids here have managed. My neighbor across the street walked on to Syracuse hoops. His son is a junior in High School and I going to ask him what his experience has been. I feel bad for these kids but I don’t have the answer.

no easy answers? Not true. Trump is mentioned who many times in this thread. When did Donald apply for the grant, H1bioglobin response sequencing and T cells riboflavin, that NIH was handing out?

Dr. Fauci is to blame. He's had years, decades and billions upon billions of dollars, to get something standardized.

but, remember, fake wrestling is essential business.

[Typical Lax Dad]

I believe local jurisdictions should be making decisions based on community spread. Was the fall school year in your town carried out like last Spring or was it different?

didn't see this edit until abv's quote.

in the spring if i mentioned it, everything was closed down mid-march, online ramped up. county of dozens of schools set 3 grading options to get a calculation on your best grade, and 2 of them were with the expectation that zero work needed to be turned in, or online classes attended, for the next 3 months. needless to say, this led to the vast majority of students choosing that path. 80-90%?
that also then led to quite the battle with my senior, as all of his friends and others choosing to do zero work. 3rd option was a grade bump if you did the work the teachers had on their curriculum (a fraction of real work). which he was required to do for every class or pay rent. moved up almost 30 spots in his class.

for the fall, everything is still online. grading has changed to having to do actual work and attend classes, but tons of kids are failing (f's are up well over 100% as one metric, and not a small number. grades are down across the board.) what is being set out and also not "attending class", so i assume the grading will change to whisk kids thru.

the county board and supe in late june came up with what looked like a very comprehensive plan, with 2 option survey to start (hybrid or online) out to teachers, parents and population. results overwhelmingly came back hybrid, board voted for that to formalize... then a week or 2 later supe decided he wanted to bail on that. gifted/disability students were supposed to be able to come a couple times per week, but i think that got scrapped, too.

county of over 400k has had less than 570 hospitalizations (that equates to about 450k total hospitalizations for the u.s.) throughout the entire pandemic and is at some of its lowest levels now. since september 1, 26 deaths (that is a u.s. equivalent of 224 per day). just as low levels for the months prior to sep 1 also.

i've found that school openings have had little correlation to community spread in my state and nationwide, and much higher correlation to who is in charge. supe just got offered a job in a red state but don't know about his new district. should be interesting.

Thanks. Our kids in our town are hybrid and go to school in cohorts Last Spring it was all distant learning. My wife teaches two classes in person and two or three remote but that is college. Was all remote in the Spring after the break.

It is a mess. Black swan. I feel bad for kids in school but I don’t have an answer. I would have thought your district would have taken some life lessons and applied them to the fall.

our county is #1 in median per capita income in the country. not fairfield whales, but dispersed and suburbia. my hometown has 3 high schools and feeders. one hs fits the demographic. my hs is half county demographic, half well under. 3rd hs is well under. gangs, dropouts. there will be a bump in the 100s over several classes for that hs in gangs, dropouts. our school will see dozens. doesn't begin to measure the learning and educational cliff that will impact the 100,000 kids' futures, opportunities.

that's one town, u.s.a. and we're #1, some decent advantages. supe has a shiny new job, though. i do wish we as a populace looked at this differently, with more depth. won't happen, though, of course. hope our kids are a smarter generation than us, but we're not prepping them well. or maybe we are in the school of hard knocks and what not to do.

There are no easy answers. Maybe we will be better prepared next time. Most people I have talked to with young kids here have managed. My neighbor across the street walked on to Syracuse hoops. His son is a junior in High School and I going to ask him what his experience has been. I feel bad for these kids but I don’t have the answer.

no easy answers? Not true. Trump is mentioned who many times in this thread. When did Donald apply for the grant, H1bioglobin response sequencing and T cells riboflavin, that NIH was handing out?

Dr. Fauci is to blame. He's had years, decades and billions upon billions of dollars, to get something standardized.

but, remember, fake wrestling is essential business.

You don’t have to defend your guy. I know it is hard for you.

[ABV 8.3%]

lame, vague answer. How does one MITIGATE the damage?

Same way every other nation did. Money direct to citizens. Money direct to businesses that you ask to shut down or limit capacity.

You're really just complaining to complain here.

You can't shut everything down for two weeks. You know this. Stop pretending like you're too stupid to understand that.

What am I complaining about? I am offering solutions. Searching all your posts on this thread. Lot's of blaming R's and trump. Haven't seen a solution from you.

Unless, you just are complaining to complain.

And,the TAATS thread clearly talks about the CARES act. And, I have constantly mentioned handing money out to small business and other recourse Maybe you should read them instead of projecting. I offer solutions. You complain. Heck, most of your responses are about R, trump and replies to weirdo's like Pete brown and the like.

go ahead, seach my posts. The solutions are there.

At the very least, you stood by and let the fools blame a tv show guy for covid deaths. you let them do it, un contested or molested.

[ABV 8.3%]

I believe local jurisdictions should be making decisions based on community spread. Was the fall school year in your town carried out like last Spring or was it different?

didn't see this edit until abv's quote.

in the spring if i mentioned it, everything was closed down mid-march, online ramped up. county of dozens of schools set 3 grading options to get a calculation on your best grade, and 2 of them were with the expectation that zero work needed to be turned in, or online classes attended, for the next 3 months. needless to say, this led to the vast majority of students choosing that path. 80-90%?
that also then led to quite the battle with my senior, as all of his friends and others choosing to do zero work. 3rd option was a grade bump if you did the work the teachers had on their curriculum (a fraction of real work). which he was required to do for every class or pay rent. moved up almost 30 spots in his class.

for the fall, everything is still online. grading has changed to having to do actual work and attend classes, but tons of kids are failing (f's are up well over 100% as one metric, and not a small number. grades are down across the board.) what is being set out and also not "attending class", so i assume the grading will change to whisk kids thru.

the county board and supe in late june came up with what looked like a very comprehensive plan, with 2 option survey to start (hybrid or online) out to teachers, parents and population. results overwhelmingly came back hybrid, board voted for that to formalize... then a week or 2 later supe decided he wanted to bail on that. gifted/disability students were supposed to be able to come a couple times per week, but i think that got scrapped, too.

county of over 400k has had less than 570 hospitalizations (that equates to about 450k total hospitalizations for the u.s.) throughout the entire pandemic and is at some of its lowest levels now. since september 1, 26 deaths (that is a u.s. equivalent of 224 per day). just as low levels for the months prior to sep 1 also.

i've found that school openings have had little correlation to community spread in my state and nationwide, and much higher correlation to who is in charge. supe just got offered a job in a red state but don't know about his new district. should be interesting.

Thanks. Our kids in our town are hybrid and go to school in cohorts Last Spring it was all distant learning. My wife teaches two classes in person and two or three remote but that is college. Was all remote in the Spring after the break.

It is a mess. Black swan. I feel bad for kids in school but I don’t have an answer. I would have thought your district would have taken some life lessons and applied them to the fall.

our county is #1 in median per capita income in the country. not fairfield whales, but dispersed and suburbia. my hometown has 3 high schools and feeders. one hs fits the demographic. my hs is half county demographic, half well under. 3rd hs is well under. gangs, dropouts. there will be a bump in the 100s over several classes for that hs in gangs, dropouts. our school will see dozens. doesn't begin to measure the learning and educational cliff that will impact the 100,000 kids' futures, opportunities.

that's one town, u.s.a. and we're #1, some decent advantages. supe has a shiny new job, though. i do wish we as a populace looked at this differently, with more depth. won't happen, though, of course. hope our kids are a smarter generation than us, but we're not prepping them well. or maybe we are in the school of hard knocks and what not to do.

There are no easy answers. Maybe we will be better prepared next time. Most people I have talked to with young kids here have managed. My neighbor across the street walked on to Syracuse hoops. His son is a junior in High School and I going to ask him what his experience has been. I feel bad for these kids but I don’t have the answer.

no easy answers? Not true. Trump is mentioned who many times in this thread. When did Donald apply for the grant, H1bioglobin response sequencing and T cells riboflavin, that NIH was handing out?

Dr. Fauci is to blame. He's had years, decades and billions upon billions of dollars, to get something standardized.

but, remember, fake wrestling is essential business.

You don’t have to defend your guy. I know it is hard for you.

all you got is missionary position.........yawn.

[Typical Lax Dad]

I believe local jurisdictions should be making decisions based on community spread. Was the fall school year in your town carried out like last Spring or was it different?

didn't see this edit until abv's quote.

in the spring if i mentioned it, everything was closed down mid-march, online ramped up. county of dozens of schools set 3 grading options to get a calculation on your best grade, and 2 of them were with the expectation that zero work needed to be turned in, or online classes attended, for the next 3 months. needless to say, this led to the vast majority of students choosing that path. 80-90%?
that also then led to quite the battle with my senior, as all of his friends and others choosing to do zero work. 3rd option was a grade bump if you did the work the teachers had on their curriculum (a fraction of real work). which he was required to do for every class or pay rent. moved up almost 30 spots in his class.

for the fall, everything is still online. grading has changed to having to do actual work and attend classes, but tons of kids are failing (f's are up well over 100% as one metric, and not a small number. grades are down across the board.) what is being set out and also not "attending class", so i assume the grading will change to whisk kids thru.

the county board and supe in late june came up with what looked like a very comprehensive plan, with 2 option survey to start (hybrid or online) out to teachers, parents and population. results overwhelmingly came back hybrid, board voted for that to formalize... then a week or 2 later supe decided he wanted to bail on that. gifted/disability students were supposed to be able to come a couple times per week, but i think that got scrapped, too.

county of over 400k has had less than 570 hospitalizations (that equates to about 450k total hospitalizations for the u.s.) throughout the entire pandemic and is at some of its lowest levels now. since september 1, 26 deaths (that is a u.s. equivalent of 224 per day). just as low levels for the months prior to sep 1 also.

i've found that school openings have had little correlation to community spread in my state and nationwide, and much higher correlation to who is in charge. supe just got offered a job in a red state but don't know about his new district. should be interesting.

Thanks. Our kids in our town are hybrid and go to school in cohorts Last Spring it was all distant learning. My wife teaches two classes in person and two or three remote but that is college. Was all remote in the Spring after the break.

It is a mess. Black swan. I feel bad for kids in school but I don’t have an answer. I would have thought your district would have taken some life lessons and applied them to the fall.

our county is #1 in median per capita income in the country. not fairfield whales, but dispersed and suburbia. my hometown has 3 high schools and feeders. one hs fits the demographic. my hs is half county demographic, half well under. 3rd hs is well under. gangs, dropouts. there will be a bump in the 100s over several classes for that hs in gangs, dropouts. our school will see dozens. doesn't begin to measure the learning and educational cliff that will impact the 100,000 kids' futures, opportunities.

that's one town, u.s.a. and we're #1, some decent advantages. supe has a shiny new job, though. i do wish we as a populace looked at this differently, with more depth. won't happen, though, of course. hope our kids are a smarter generation than us, but we're not prepping them well. or maybe we are in the school of hard knocks and what not to do.

There are no easy answers. Maybe we will be better prepared next time. Most people I have talked to with young kids here have managed. My neighbor across the street walked on to Syracuse hoops. His son is a junior in High School and I going to ask him what his experience has been. I feel bad for these kids but I don’t have the answer.

no easy answers? Not true. Trump is mentioned who many times in this thread. When did Donald apply for the grant, H1bioglobin response sequencing and T cells riboflavin, that NIH was handing out?

Dr. Fauci is to blame. He's had years, decades and billions upon billions of dollars, to get something standardized.

but, remember, fake wrestling is essential business.

You don’t have to defend your guy. I know it is hard for you.

all you got is missionary position.........yawn.

It is essential


I wonder how WWE continued to perform?

[a fan]

oh no, the internet doesn't work........how in the world are you gonna make gin without the internet?

How about this: let me tell you what I wasn't able to get in the spring/summer because of LIMITED global shutdowns.

My malthouse that generates millions in revenue couldn't operate because I couldn't get one single motor starter for one motor. And it was back ordered. Know why? Because of limited Global shutdowns at not just the parts plant....but also distribution. Wholesalers are behind. Trucking is behind. And the electricians who need to install the starter? They're behind, too.

Result? It took two months to get that one single part in stock, on a truck, delivered, and installed. Now multiply this times the millions of businesses around the globe. And understand it will take YEARS for everyone to catch up.

And btw? All of this would have been made much, much worse if the internet was down for two week. How do you think customers order our spirits? And how does our distributor know what's been ordered, and what's been shipped? No internet= no economy.


You've been angry about shut downs this entire time. I get it. We're all frustrated, and sick of this stupid virus. I'm sorry you're having a rough time.

Really.

[wgdsr]

mdlax, he is being intentionally misleading. has been for a while. has cited ihme more than once and when new numbers come up or when cnn has done bits on it... those are days he brings it up. with inflated info each time. yesterday... cnn, then inflated, incorrect "scary" numbers. personally, i think it's damaging to low-information people and those they affect just like trump has been...BUT nothing i can do about it.

get used to it. wait... you should be.

When I first read this, I thought the "he" referenced was me, but you mean Joe Biden.

The intentionality is where we apparently differ. You seem certain that Biden has been "intentionally misleading", and I'm far less certain.

On this issue in specific, I would definitely rather our public leaders err to the side of "playing up" the reasons to be concerned and to take action rather than the Trump conscious, admitted choice to "downplay" the reasons to be concerned.

Many of our populace needs to be more concerned, not less. We need the positive actions to slow the spread.

That said, I think you and I would agree that telling the truth, being accurate, admitting error when realized, all build future credibility...and credibility matters in a crisis.

our number was 272.7k dead on nov 2.
the ihme projections, which biden has consciously and explicitly utilized inaccurately for months for effect (often quoting their mask use savings estimates but incorrectly), were:
approx 329k by jan 1 (difference of 51k)
approx 414k by feb 1 (difference of 131k)
approx 470k by mar 1 (difference of less than 200k)

he said let's look at "the facts", likely 250k dead between now and january. not march. not february. not the end of january. not 51k, not 131k, not less than 200k. as i said, he has been doing this religiously including in high profile debates for months. i've pointed it out multiple times (i think exclusively in reply when posts have been made here about the modeling or similar context). no one calls him out on it, so why stop until january?

joe's running on credibility and hopes that influences. it could be a small thing, it could be something else. but it's not anything other than intentionally misleading. falsehood. even for 78 year old joe. he's not the first. take it for whatever you will.

[Matnum PI]

just one county but...

[youthathletics]

Just spoke to a close friend who works at a unique site in DC off the potomac river with all scientists...they are all up in arms how the messaging is been sent out. Recently, an email went out that many federal buildings have said they are not opening until JUNE 2021....needless to say, they are furious that the feds are NOT listening to the science.