2020 Elections - Trump FIRED

[old salt]

2. If I throw out the election of Trump, then I guess I have to also throw out your election too. Since you were on the November ballot. And also every other election in PA. Every congressional election in PA. And also every state house election in PA. Which means that there is no longer any state legislature in PA. Since in PA legislative terms expire on November 30.

You think any of the Trump-Idiots have thought this through? They think someone is going to "magic" Trump another 4 terms.

I said this the minute they started talking about fraud: TrumpFans aren't smart enough to bother claiming that an entire ballot is fraudulent. Just Trump's part.

...& those Trump-Idiots wonder if the down ballot impact might have cost John James the close Senate race in MI & might have pushed Perdue below the 50% runoff threshold in GA. Just sayin'.

[Matnum PI]

Chris Krebs: Trump fired me for saying this, but I'll say it again: The election wasn't rigged.

"The 2020 election was the most secure in U.S. history. This success should be celebrated by all Americans, not undermined."
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[Matnum PI]

Joe Biden's lead over Donald Trump is now more than 6.85 million votes. @NBCNews

[calourie]

2. If I throw out the election of Trump, then I guess I have to also throw out your election too. Since you were on the November ballot. And also every other election in PA. Every congressional election in PA. And also every state house election in PA. Which means that there is no longer any state legislature in PA. Since in PA legislative terms expire on November 30.

You think any of the Trump-Idiots have thought this through? They think someone is going to "magic" Trump another 4 terms.

I said this the minute they started talking about fraud: TrumpFans aren't smart enough to bother claiming that an entire ballot is fraudulent. Just Trump's part.

...& those Trump-Idiots wonder if the down ballot impact might have cost John James the close Senate race in MI & might have pushed Perdue below the 50% runoff threshold in GA. Just sayin'.

Not exactly what you are "just sayin" Salty. To me, Trumps actions since he lost the election are his most treasonous acts yet. I think you and I disagree that anything prior he has done is even close to treasonous, but his fight against the election results clearly should give one pause to infer that he has abused the power of his office in a totally anti- as well as un-constitutional way his entire time in office. I understand you are a policy guy, but at some point character should matter, even to you.

[a fan]

...& those Trump-Idiots wonder if the down ballot impact might have cost John James the close Senate race in MI & might have pushed Perdue below the 50% runoff threshold in GA. Just sayin'.

Sigh. So you think that adding in the possibility that the fraud cost one single Senator one race in Michigan.....now makes it so that your fraud allegations make sense?

Geez.

So you're telling us that there was massive election fraud.

But what you're now telling me, is that even though there was massive fraud, the fraudsters "only" did their work in close elections where Republicans lost.

So you're telling me with a straight face, that the fraudster ONLY did their work in "close" elections. ONLY did their work in the States that Trump lost.

That's the new theory, is it?

Let me help you: if there was massive election fraud (with no evidence, but hey who cares about piddly things like evidence)? Every single State's result are wrong. All of them. Every race. Every proposition. Every Judge. Every doggone election choice.

So don't come back and tell me that John James' results are fraudulent, yet the rest of the Michigan ballot is fine.

So it's all or nothing. That's all you get to allege. You don't get to pick and choose which elections you are pretending to believe are fraudulent. And act like "gee whiz everyone, it's a coincidence that the results we think are wrong "just happened" to be where a Republican lost".

FFS.

[seacoaster]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/live-atto ... 02267.html

Crazy, crazy dangerous stuff here. Lin Wood just said Trump won over 400 electoral votes and won California, and that he has "seen the real numbers."

[RedFromMI]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/live-atto ... 02267.html

Crazy, crazy dangerous stuff here. Lin Wood just said Trump won over 400 electoral votes and won California, and that he has "seen the real numbers."

Good article on TPM regarding him - apparently his law partners have been suing to break up the partnership and have made some fairly wild claims about his behavior.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/pr ... it-bonkers

[seacoaster]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/live-atto ... 02267.html

Crazy, crazy dangerous stuff here. Lin Wood just said Trump won over 400 electoral votes and won California, and that he has "seen the real numbers."

Good article on TPM regarding him - apparently his law partners have been suing to break up the partnership and have made some fairly wild claims about his behavior.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/pr ... it-bonkers

Powell & Wood, PLLC -- Legit Bonkers at Law

[old salt]

2. If I throw out the election of Trump, then I guess I have to also throw out your election too. Since you were on the November ballot. And also every other election in PA. Every congressional election in PA. And also every state house election in PA. Which means that there is no longer any state legislature in PA. Since in PA legislative terms expire on November 30.

You think any of the Trump-Idiots have thought this through? They think someone is going to "magic" Trump another 4 terms.

I said this the minute they started talking about fraud: TrumpFans aren't smart enough to bother claiming that an entire ballot is fraudulent. Just Trump's part.

...& those Trump-Idiots wonder if the down ballot impact might have cost John James the close Senate race in MI & might have pushed Perdue below the 50% runoff threshold in GA. Just sayin'.

Not exactly what you are "just sayin" Salty. To me, Trumps actions since he lost the election are his most treasonous acts yet. I think you and I disagree that anything prior he has done is even close to treasonous, but his fight against the election results clearly should give one pause to infer that he has abused the power of his office in a totally anti- as well as un-constitutional way his entire time in office. I understand you are a policy guy, but at some point character should matter, even to you.

I don't vouch for all Trump-Idiots. Just me.

I don't agree with what Trump's doing now. I think he's hurting the GOP & his future prospects, as well as the country.
If he does not leave office in 50 days, I'll call it treasonous. I'm sure, one way or another, he'll be held accountable after he leaves office.

Neither am I willing to ignore the irregularities in the way this election was conducted, as they apply to future elections.

I like to think I'm realistic & pragmatic. I've never participated in a 12 step program, but I do seek the serenity to accept the things I cannot change.

[Typical Lax Dad]

2. If I throw out the election of Trump, then I guess I have to also throw out your election too. Since you were on the November ballot. And also every other election in PA. Every congressional election in PA. And also every state house election in PA. Which means that there is no longer any state legislature in PA. Since in PA legislative terms expire on November 30.

You think any of the Trump-Idiots have thought this through? They think someone is going to "magic" Trump another 4 terms.

I said this the minute they started talking about fraud: TrumpFans aren't smart enough to bother claiming that an entire ballot is fraudulent. Just Trump's part.

...& those Trump-Idiots wonder if the down ballot impact might have cost John James the close Senate race in MI & might have pushed Perdue below the 50% runoff threshold in GA. Just sayin'.

Not exactly what you are "just sayin" Salty. To me, Trumps actions since he lost the election are his most treasonous acts yet. I think you and I disagree that anything prior he has done is even close to treasonous, but his fight against the election results clearly should give one pause to infer that he has abused the power of his office in a totally anti- as well as un-constitutional way his entire time in office. I understand you are a policy guy, but at some point character should matter, even to you.

I don't vouch for all Trump-Idiots. Just me.

I don't agree with what Trump's doing now. I think he's hurting the GOP & his future prospects, as well as the country.
If he does not leave office in 50 days, I'll call it treasonous. I'm sure, one way or another, he'll be held accountable after he leaves office.

Neither am I willing to ignore the irregularities in the way this election was conducted, as they apply to future elections.

I like to think I'm realistic & pragmatic. I've never participated in a 12 step program, but I do seek the serenity to accept the things I cannot change.

[old salt]

...& those Trump-Idiots wonder if the down ballot impact might have cost John James the close Senate race in MI & might have pushed Perdue below the 50% runoff threshold in GA. Just sayin'.

Sigh. So you think that adding in the possibility that the fraud cost one single Senator one race in Michigan.....now makes it so that your fraud allegations make sense?

Geez.

So you're telling us that there was massive election fraud.

But what you're now telling me, is that even though there was massive fraud, the fraudsters "only" did their work in close elections where Republicans lost.

So you're telling me with a straight face, that the fraudster ONLY did their work in "close" elections. ONLY did their work in the States that Trump lost.

That's the new theory, is it?

Let me help you: if there was massive election fraud (with no evidence, but hey who cares about piddly things like evidence)? Every single State's result are wrong. All of them. Every race. Every proposition. Every Judge. Every doggone election choice.

So don't come back and tell me that John James' results are fraudulent, yet the rest of the Michigan ballot is fine.

So it's all or nothing. That's all you get to allege. You don't get to pick and choose which elections you are pretending to believe are fraudulent. And act like "gee whiz everyone, it's a coincidence that the results we think are wrong "just happened" to be where a Republican lost".

FFS.

Unlike you, I'm am not claiming to know the magnitude of election fraud or error, & the down ballot impact, in this highly unusual election.

[Matnum PI]

And now they crowd has moved on to a "lock him up" chant for Georgia's Republican governor.

[Typical Lax Dad]

...& those Trump-Idiots wonder if the down ballot impact might have cost John James the close Senate race in MI & might have pushed Perdue below the 50% runoff threshold in GA. Just sayin'.

Sigh. So you think that adding in the possibility that the fraud cost one single Senator one race in Michigan.....now makes it so that your fraud allegations make sense?

Geez.

So you're telling us that there was massive election fraud.

But what you're now telling me, is that even though there was massive fraud, the fraudsters "only" did their work in close elections where Republicans lost.

So you're telling me with a straight face, that the fraudster ONLY did their work in "close" elections. ONLY did their work in the States that Trump lost.

That's the new theory, is it?

Let me help you: if there was massive election fraud (with no evidence, but hey who cares about piddly things like evidence)? Every single State's result are wrong. All of them. Every race. Every proposition. Every Judge. Every doggone election choice.

So don't come back and tell me that John James' results are fraudulent, yet the rest of the Michigan ballot is fine.

So it's all or nothing. That's all you get to allege. You don't get to pick and choose which elections you are pretending to believe are fraudulent. And act like "gee whiz everyone, it's a coincidence that the results we think are wrong "just happened" to be where a Republican lost".

FFS.

Unlike you, I'm am not claiming to know the magnitude of election fraud or error, & the down ballot impact, in this highly unusual election.

[a fan]

Unlike you, I'm am not claiming to know the magnitude of election fraud or error, & the down ballot impact, in this highly unusual election.

Um. Yes you are. That's PRECISELY what you're doing.

What was the fraud? How did they do it? How many States?

You don't know. You don't know. You don't know.

So your ONLY choice is to suspect everything. Any other position makes ZERO sense, given that you think there was fraud, with no evidence of this fraud, whatsoever. You can't even tell me which State has a fraud problem, let alone how the fraud was perpetrated.

You're being a McCarthyite, demanding that we prove a negative. And guess what McCarthyites did? That's right----commies are everywhere, until proven otherwise.

Your ONLY choice here is to assume every election was fraudent.


As for what I am claiming? I"m claiming that our bipartisan elected officials found no evidence of election fraud. So guess what? I trust every result, in every election, on every ballot. THAT is my claim. Let me know when you want to join the rest us......

[old salt]

Unlike you, I'm am not claiming to know the magnitude of election fraud or error, & the down ballot impact, in this highly unusual election.

Um. Yes you are. That's PRECISELY what you're doing.

What was the fraud? How did they do it? How many States?

You don't know. You don't know. You don't know.

So your ONLY choice is to suspect everything. Any other position makes ZERO sense, given that you think there was fraud, with no evidence of this fraud, whatsoever. You can't even tell me which State has a fraud problem, let alone how the fraud was perpetrated.

You're being a McCarthyite, demanding that we prove a negative. And guess what McCarthyites did? That's right----commies are everywhere, until proven otherwise.

Your ONLY choice here is to assume every election was fraudent.


As for what I am claiming? I"m claiming that our bipartisan elected officials found no evidence of election fraud. So guess what? I trust every result, in every election, on every ballot. THAT is my claim. Let me know when you want to join the rest us......

No. My choice is to let the claims come forward, be investigated (or not) & see what, if anything, State Legislatures do for the next election.

...or maybe Congress will feel the need for another bi-partisan commission, like Carter-Baker, to examine this election & reassure the public before the next one.

[Farfromgeneva]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/live-atto ... 02267.html

Crazy, crazy dangerous stuff here. Lin Wood just said Trump won over 400 electoral votes and won California, and that he has "seen the real numbers."

Good article on TPM regarding him - apparently his law partners have been suing to break up the partnership and have made some fairly wild claims about his behavior.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/pr ... it-bonkers

Powell & Wood, PLLC -- Legit Bonkers at Law

Could make the mad gunman in St Louis with his sloppy wife a partner. Believe he was a ambulance chaser as well.

[Farfromgeneva]

And now they crowd has moved on to a "lock him up" chant for Georgia's Republican governor.

That is amazing because for a long time Kemp was balls deep in Trump and everything he was about. Of course Kemp has always been a stepper, looking for the easiest glidepath to the next seat.

[a fan]

Unlike you, I'm am not claiming to know the magnitude of election fraud or error, & the down ballot impact, in this highly unusual election.

Um. Yes you are. That's PRECISELY what you're doing.

What was the fraud? How did they do it? How many States?

You don't know. You don't know. You don't know.

So your ONLY choice is to suspect everything. Any other position makes ZERO sense, given that you think there was fraud, with no evidence of this fraud, whatsoever. You can't even tell me which State has a fraud problem, let alone how the fraud was perpetrated.

You're being a McCarthyite, demanding that we prove a negative. And guess what McCarthyites did? That's right----commies are everywhere, until proven otherwise.

Your ONLY choice here is to assume every election was fraudent.


As for what I am claiming? I"m claiming that our bipartisan elected officials found no evidence of election fraud. So guess what? I trust every result, in every election, on every ballot. THAT is my claim. Let me know when you want to join the rest us......

No. My choice is to let the claims come forward, be investigated (or not) & see what, if anything, State Legislatures do for the next election.

I get that.

And until they come back with whatever it is you think they're going to do? Every single election outcome is in doubt in Old Salt's world. Not just Michigan. You don't get to be a little bit pregnant with your conspiracy theories, since you have ZERO evidence of what you're alleging.

It's all or nothing.

[Typical Lax Dad]

...& those Trump-Idiots wonder if the down ballot impact might have cost John James the close Senate race in MI & might have pushed Perdue below the 50% runoff threshold in GA. Just sayin'.

Sigh. So you think that adding in the possibility that the fraud cost one single Senator one race in Michigan.....now makes it so that your fraud allegations make sense?

Geez.

So you're telling us that there was massive election fraud.

But what you're now telling me, is that even though there was massive fraud, the fraudsters "only" did their work in close elections where Republicans lost.

So you're telling me with a straight face, that the fraudster ONLY did their work in "close" elections. ONLY did their work in the States that Trump lost.

That's the new theory, is it?

Let me help you: if there was massive election fraud (with no evidence, but hey who cares about piddly things like evidence)? Every single State's result are wrong. All of them. Every race. Every proposition. Every Judge. Every doggone election choice.

So don't come back and tell me that John James' results are fraudulent, yet the rest of the Michigan ballot is fine.

So it's all or nothing. That's all you get to allege. You don't get to pick and choose which elections you are pretending to believe are fraudulent. And act like "gee whiz everyone, it's a coincidence that the results we think are wrong "just happened" to be where a Republican lost".

FFS.

Unlike you, I'm am not claiming to know the magnitude of election fraud or error, & the down ballot impact, in this highly unusual election.

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[Typical Lax Dad]

Trump - Giuliani 2024!

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