All things CoronaVirus

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How many of your friends and family members have died of the Chinese Corona Virus?

0 people
45
64%
1 person.
10
14%
2 people.
3
4%
3 people.
5
7%
More.
7
10%
 
Total votes: 70

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ardilla secreta wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:11 pm One out of every 1,000 North Dakotans has died from COVID-19. This rate will almost certainly go much higher under current positivity rates and the aftermath of Thanksgiving. The highest positive rate is among 20-29 yo. The governor has only recently instituted a mask mandate which probably has a modest at best adherence.
thankfully north and south dakota are trending down for cases, case rates. don't think they had a lot of tests in general.

vermont, maine, hawaii, alaska, oregon and utah look to have done the best so far. most of those other than hawaii seem to be in the middle of it right now, hopefully they can keep it tamped down. most everyone else has gotten hit?
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youthathletics wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:50 pm
Jim Malone wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:53 pm Positive too, labs came in this morning.
wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:11 pm PCR test results?
Keep us posted Jim.
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Hope you are doing well Jim, was thinking about you this afternoon.
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Just checking on my call at the end of October.... I will still sign up for 300,000 as a worse case at this point.

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wgdsr wrote: ↑
seacoaster wrote: ↑
We haven't seen positive testing rates like this at any point during the US pandemic. Overall US positive test rate has shot up to 7.3%, and testing has decreased.

South Dakota 43.4%
Idaho 34.8%
Wyoming 31.5%
Wisconsin 28.0%
Iowa 26.4%
Alabama 25.2%
Nebraska 21.8%
Kansas 20.7%

But suburban women .... please
from covid tracking project, it looks like testing companies and labs at a minimum have been able to increase testing:

https://covidtracking.com/data

>> Thanks for posting that. I don’t like the hospitalization trend since 10/1. Hopefully deaths are at a lower rate than we saw in the Spring. I believe that is likely. We could be looking at 300,000 deaths by year-end. I would sign up for that today if that were worse case.<<
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:49 pm Just checking on my call at the end of October.... I will still sign up for 300,000 as a worse case at this point.

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wgdsr wrote: ↑
seacoaster wrote: ↑
We haven't seen positive testing rates like this at any point during the US pandemic. Overall US positive test rate has shot up to 7.3%, and testing has decreased.

South Dakota 43.4%
Idaho 34.8%
Wyoming 31.5%
Wisconsin 28.0%
Iowa 26.4%
Alabama 25.2%
Nebraska 21.8%
Kansas 20.7%

But suburban women .... please
from covid tracking project, it looks like testing companies and labs at a minimum have been able to increase testing:

https://covidtracking.com/data

>> Thanks for posting that. I don’t like the hospitalization trend since 10/1. Hopefully deaths are at a lower rate than we saw in the Spring. I believe that is likely. We could be looking at 300,000 deaths by year-end. I would sign up for that today if that were worse case.<<
300 k is best case right now. my ihme boys can do 5 weeks and they're @ 325 ish. the turn in case increase is good, and we finally have some states < 1.0, but the lag in a best case will extend 2 weeks including a bump at least from here.

i'd take 320 with declining cases/hospitalizations heading into 2021.
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"Rounded the corner"?

After Nov 4th, "No one will mention Covid"?

The United States has reported more than 2,000 deaths from Covid-19 today, for the first time since May, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.

Currently the country has reported 2,046 new deaths today.

IMPOTUS o d and the r just don't care, do you?

Guess where we will be in 3 weeks???
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CU88 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:29 pm "Rounded the corner"?

After Nov 4th, "No one will mention Covid"?

The United States has reported more than 2,000 deaths from Covid-19 today, for the first time since May, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.

Currently the country has reported 2,046 new deaths today.

IMPOTUS o d and the r just don't care, do you?

Guess where we will be in 3 weeks???

You posting a similarly phrased post? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Sorry I had to, you set me up! In all seriousness though, who are you trying to appeal to here? This is a small forum and most everybody on this forum has a similar stance. The people you are trying to appeal don't have a f***ing clue what FanLax is let alone spend their time in an online forum a regular basis, so I'm just not sure that what you are trying to accomplish here is achievable. Everybody that has two eyes and ears knows how many deaths occurred today, to repeat it is just the "I told you so mentality" that has helped play a large part in the amount of time its taking us to come out of this pandemic. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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CU77 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:57 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:24 pm A big Ef U to those saying, or even implying, that Covid deaths are no big deal for those already with one foot in the grave.
The one-foot-in-the-grave argument is nonsense. Look at the "excess deaths" statistics. This compares total deaths over a period to a baseline of the past few years. So far in 2020, there have been close to 300,000 excess deaths in the US, regardless of cause.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm

EDIT: this was already noted by Md above
fear porn disguised as math

"...based on ONE week......for the past five years....?

over 100K people died above how many died the year before. talking 2016. .

don't know how accurate the numbers are, regarding mortality, etc. in the link below.

Of note , in only 85 years, the life expectancy rate went from age 61, (1933) to almost age 80, today

( cdc website is a mess with all it's metadata hiding of files......so, there IS this article from the infotainment industry )

logicallty, IF population increases, it only makes sense that deaths would increase, from previous years. That is what the first number is capturing , IS not it? (avg. adjusted death rate )




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ABV 8.3% wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:51 pm
CU77 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:57 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:24 pm A big Ef U to those saying, or even implying, that Covid deaths are no big deal for those already with one foot in the grave.
The one-foot-in-the-grave argument is nonsense. Look at the "excess deaths" statistics. This compares total deaths over a period to a baseline of the past few years. So far in 2020, there have been close to 300,000 excess deaths in the US, regardless of cause.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm

EDIT: this was already noted by Md above
fear porn disguised as math
You keep calling any data you read fear porn.

The dust is going to settle from this pandemic. And when they do, scientists are going to do a tally.


Given that, I have to ask: what number of dead from Covid is "too high" for you?

Where is that bar for you? 500K dead? 1 million dead?

What's the number of dead that makes ABV8.3% say to himself "ok, this is a serious pandemic"?
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a fan wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:59 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:51 pm
CU77 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:57 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:24 pm A big Ef U to those saying, or even implying, that Covid deaths are no big deal for those already with one foot in the grave.
The one-foot-in-the-grave argument is nonsense. Look at the "excess deaths" statistics. This compares total deaths over a period to a baseline of the past few years. So far in 2020, there have been close to 300,000 excess deaths in the US, regardless of cause.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm

EDIT: this was already noted by Md above
fear porn disguised as math
You keep calling any data you read fear porn.

The dust is going to settle from this pandemic. And when they do, scientists are going to do a tally.


Given that, I have to ask: what number of dead from Covid is "too high" for you?

Where is that bar for you? 500K dead? 1 million dead?

What's the number of dead that makes ABV8.3% say to himself "ok, this is a serious pandemic"?
When it’s young people....My son just told me one of his college teammates has it...a little worried as he has diabetes.
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a fan wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:59 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:51 pm
CU77 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:57 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:24 pm A big Ef U to those saying, or even implying, that Covid deaths are no big deal for those already with one foot in the grave.
The one-foot-in-the-grave argument is nonsense. Look at the "excess deaths" statistics. This compares total deaths over a period to a baseline of the past few years. So far in 2020, there have been close to 300,000 excess deaths in the US, regardless of cause.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm

EDIT: this was already noted by Md above
fear porn disguised as math
You keep calling any data you read fear porn.

The dust is going to settle from this pandemic. And when they do, scientists are going to do a tally.


Given that, I have to ask: what number of dead from Covid is "too high" for you?

Where is that bar for you? 500K dead? 1 million dead?

What's the number of dead that makes ABV8.3% say to himself "ok, this is a serious pandemic"?
when it affects ALL ages.

Simple enough of an answer for you ;)
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:01 pm
a fan wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:59 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:51 pm
CU77 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:57 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:24 pm A big Ef U to those saying, or even implying, that Covid deaths are no big deal for those already with one foot in the grave.
The one-foot-in-the-grave argument is nonsense. Look at the "excess deaths" statistics. This compares total deaths over a period to a baseline of the past few years. So far in 2020, there have been close to 300,000 excess deaths in the US, regardless of cause.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm

EDIT: this was already noted by Md above
fear porn disguised as math
You keep calling any data you read fear porn.

The dust is going to settle from this pandemic. And when they do, scientists are going to do a tally.


Given that, I have to ask: what number of dead from Covid is "too high" for you?

Where is that bar for you? 500K dead? 1 million dead?

What's the number of dead that makes ABV8.3% say to himself "ok, this is a serious pandemic"?
When it’s young people....My son just told me one of his college teammates has it...a little worried as he has diabetes.
I just answered......ALL ages.

Sorry about your sons Hangover teamate. Yes, indeed, if a diabetic, V19 is a problem. Even young. Hopefully he doesn't have to ration his insulin doses because they cost so much. still.
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Matnum PI wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:49 am
ABV 8.3% wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:00 am ...because when YOU do it.........the ok flags are waved...
Sounds like there's something going on on this website that you don't think is OK. What's that, ABV?
because , most likely, the people preparing your food are not documented workers. Hence, no health insurance. Immunization records? Ha...who needs em. V19 vaccine, mandatory, to work in the food industry, correct? This IS what Biden is putting forth?

Restaurants will play by the law and hire ONLY vaxxinated workers........this IS the world you live in?
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Matnum PI wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:49 am
ABV 8.3% wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:00 am ...because when YOU do it.........the ok flags are waved...
Sounds like there's something going on on this website that you don't think is OK. What's that, ABV?
Dickens, A Christmas Carol.......what message do you take from it?

What is the purpose of changing, if people are still going to treat you as if you haven't?

Time to re-read that one............be thankful, but NOT forgivefull. got it.
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ABV 8.3% wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:25 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:49 am
ABV 8.3% wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:00 am ...because when YOU do it.........the ok flags are waved...
Sounds like there's something going on on this website that you don't think is OK. What's that, ABV?
Dickens, A Christmas Carol.......what message do you take from it?

What is the purpose of changing, if people are still going to treat you as if you haven't?

Time to re-read that one............be thankful, but NOT forgivefull. got it.
I definitely do not got it. What is going on on this forum/website (in this world?) that is not OK? Actually... I take it back. I'll just nod my head and smile politely.
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ABV 8.3% wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:10 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:01 pm
a fan wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:59 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:51 pm
CU77 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:57 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:24 pm A big Ef U to those saying, or even implying, that Covid deaths are no big deal for those already with one foot in the grave.
The one-foot-in-the-grave argument is nonsense. Look at the "excess deaths" statistics. This compares total deaths over a period to a baseline of the past few years. So far in 2020, there have been close to 300,000 excess deaths in the US, regardless of cause.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm

EDIT: this was already noted by Md above
fear porn disguised as math
You keep calling any data you read fear porn.

The dust is going to settle from this pandemic. And when they do, scientists are going to do a tally.


Given that, I have to ask: what number of dead from Covid is "too high" for you?

Where is that bar for you? 500K dead? 1 million dead?

What's the number of dead that makes ABV8.3% say to himself "ok, this is a serious pandemic"?
When it’s young people....My son just told me one of his college teammates has it...a little worried as he has diabetes.
I just answered......ALL ages.

Sorry about your sons Hangover teamate. Yes, indeed, if a diabetic, V19 is a problem. Even young. Hopefully he doesn't have to ration his insulin doses because they cost so much. still.
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ABV 8.3% wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:51 pm
CU77 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:57 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:24 pm A big Ef U to those saying, or even implying, that Covid deaths are no big deal for those already with one foot in the grave.
The one-foot-in-the-grave argument is nonsense. Look at the "excess deaths" statistics. This compares total deaths over a period to a baseline of the past few years. So far in 2020, there have been close to 300,000 excess deaths in the US, regardless of cause.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm

EDIT: this was already noted by Md above
fear porn disguised as math

"...based on ONE week......for the past five years....?

over 100K people died above how many died the year before. talking 2016. .

don't know how accurate the numbers are, regarding mortality, etc. in the link below.

Of note , in only 85 years, the life expectancy rate went from age 61, (1933) to almost age 80, today

( cdc website is a mess with all it's metadata hiding of files......so, there IS this article from the infotainment industry )

logicallty, IF population increases, it only makes sense that deaths would increase, from previous years. That is what the first number is capturing , IS not it? (avg. adjusted death rate )




https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/20 ... 111928450/
How many die of TB yearly? Less than that is probably a win.
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kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:55 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:51 pm
CU77 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:57 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:24 pm A big Ef U to those saying, or even implying, that Covid deaths are no big deal for those already with one foot in the grave.
The one-foot-in-the-grave argument is nonsense. Look at the "excess deaths" statistics. This compares total deaths over a period to a baseline of the past few years. So far in 2020, there have been close to 300,000 excess deaths in the US, regardless of cause.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm

EDIT: this was already noted by Md above
fear porn disguised as math

"...based on ONE week......for the past five years....?

over 100K people died above how many died the year before. talking 2016. .

don't know how accurate the numbers are, regarding mortality, etc. in the link below.

Of note , in only 85 years, the life expectancy rate went from age 61, (1933) to almost age 80, today

( cdc website is a mess with all it's metadata hiding of files......so, there IS this article from the infotainment industry )

logicallty, IF population increases, it only makes sense that deaths would increase, from previous years. That is what the first number is capturing , IS not it? (avg. adjusted death rate )




https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/20 ... 111928450/
How many die of TB yearly? Less than that is probably a win.
https://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/fac ... trends.htm
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Pope Francis: A Crisis Reveals What Is in Our Hearts
To come out of this pandemic better than we went in, we must let ourselves be touched by others’ pain.

By Pope Francis
Pope Francis is the head of the Catholic Church and the bishop of Rome.

Nov. 26, 2020

In this past year of change, my mind and heart have overflowed with people. People I think of and pray for, and sometimes cry with, people with names and faces, people who died without saying goodbye to those they loved, families in difficulty, even going hungry, because there’s no work.

Sometimes, when you think globally, you can be paralyzed: There are so many places of apparently ceaseless conflict; there’s so much suffering and need. I find it helps to focus on concrete situations: You see faces looking for life and love in the reality of each person, of each people. You see hope written in the story of every nation, glorious because it’s a story of daily struggle, of lives broken in self-sacrifice. So rather than overwhelm you, it invites you to ponder and to respond with hope.

These are moments in life that can be ripe for change and conversion. Each of us has had our own “stoppage,” or if we haven’t yet, we will someday: illness, the failure of a marriage or a business, some great disappointment or betrayal. As in the Covid-19 lockdown, those moments generate a tension, a crisis that reveals what is in our hearts.

In every personal “Covid,” so to speak, in every “stoppage,” what is revealed is what needs to change: our lack of internal freedom, the idols we have been serving, the ideologies we have tried to live by, the relationships we have neglected.

When I got really sick at the age of 21, I had my first experience of limit, of pain and loneliness. It changed the way I saw life. For months, I didn’t know who I was or whether I would live or die. The doctors had no idea whether I’d make it either. I remember hugging my mother and saying, “Just tell me if I’m going to die.” I was in the second year of training for the priesthood in the diocesan seminary of Buenos Aires.

I remember the date: Aug. 13, 1957. I got taken to a hospital by a prefect who realized mine was not the kind of flu you treat with aspirin. Straightaway they took a liter and a half of water out of my lungs, and I remained there fighting for my life. The following November they operated to take out the upper right lobe of one of the lungs. I have some sense of how people with Covid-19 feel as they struggle to breathe on a ventilator.

I remember especially two nurses from this time. One was the senior ward matron, a Dominican sister who had been a teacher in Athens before being sent to Buenos Aires. I learned later that following the first examination by the doctor, after he left she told the nurses to double the dose of medication he had prescribed — basically penicillin and streptomycin — because she knew from experience I was dying. Sister Cornelia Caraglio saved my life. Because of her regular contact with sick people, she understood better than the doctor what they needed, and she had the courage to act on her knowledge.

Another nurse, Micaela, did the same when I was in intense pain, secretly prescribing me extra doses of painkillers outside my due times. Cornelia and Micaela are in heaven now, but I’ll always owe them so much. They fought for me to the end, until my eventual recovery. They taught me what it is to use science but also to know when to go beyond it to meet particular needs. And the serious illness I lived through taught me to depend on the goodness and wisdom of others.

This theme of helping others has stayed with me these past months. In lockdown I’ve often gone in prayer to those who sought all means to save the lives of others. So many of the nurses, doctors and caregivers paid that price of love, together with priests, and religious and ordinary people whose vocations were service. We return their love by grieving for them and honoring them.

Whether or not they were conscious of it, their choice testified to a belief: that it is better to live a shorter life serving others than a longer one resisting that call. That’s why, in many countries, people stood at their windows or on their doorsteps to applaud them in gratitude and awe. They are the saints next door, who have awakened something important in our hearts, making credible once more what we desire to instill by our preaching.

They are the antibodies to the virus of indifference. They remind us that our lives are a gift and we grow by giving of ourselves, not preserving ourselves but losing ourselves in service.

With some exceptions, governments have made great efforts to put the well-being of their people first, acting decisively to protect health and to save lives. The exceptions have been some governments that shrugged off the painful evidence of mounting deaths, with inevitable, grievous consequences. But most governments acted responsibly, imposing strict measures to contain the outbreak.

Yet some groups protested, refusing to keep their distance, marching against travel restrictions — as if measures that governments must impose for the good of their people constitute some kind of political assault on autonomy or personal freedom! Looking to the common good is much more than the sum of what is good for individuals. It means having a regard for all citizens and seeking to respond effectively to the needs of the least fortunate.

It is all too easy for some to take an idea — in this case, for example, personal freedom — and turn it into an ideology, creating a prism through which they judge everything.

The coronavirus crisis may seem special because it affects most of humankind. But it is special only in how visible it is. There are a thousand other crises that are just as dire, but are just far enough from some of us that we can act as if they don’t exist. Think, for example, of the wars scattered across different parts of the world; of the production and trade in weapons; of the hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing poverty, hunger and lack of opportunity; of climate change. These tragedies may seem distant from us, as part of the daily news that, sadly, fails to move us to change our agendas and priorities. But like the Covid-19 crisis, they affect the whole of humanity.

Look at us now: We put on face masks to protect ourselves and others from a virus we can’t see. But what about all those other unseen viruses we need to protect ourselves from? How will we deal with the hidden pandemics of this world, the pandemics of hunger and violence and climate change?

If we are to come out of this crisis less selfish than when we went in, we have to let ourselves be touched by others’ pain. There’s a line in Friedrich Hölderlin’s “Hyperion” that speaks to me, about how the danger that threatens in a crisis is never total; there’s always a way out: “Where the danger is, also grows the saving power.” That’s the genius in the human story: There’s always a way to escape destruction. Where humankind has to act is precisely there, in the threat itself; that’s where the door opens.

This is a moment to dream big, to rethink our priorities — what we value, what we want, what we seek — and to commit to act in our daily life on what we have dreamed of.

God asks us to dare to create something new. We cannot return to the false securities of the political and economic systems we had before the crisis. We need economies that give to all access to the fruits of creation, to the basic needs of life: to land, lodging and labor. We need a politics that can integrate and dialogue with the poor, the excluded and the vulnerable, that gives people a say in the decisions that affect their lives. We need to slow down, take stock and design better ways of living together on this earth.

The pandemic has exposed the paradox that while we are more connected, we are also more divided. Feverish consumerism breaks the bonds of belonging. It causes us to focus on our self-preservation and makes us anxious. Our fears are exacerbated and exploited by a certain kind of populist politics that seeks power over society. It is hard to build a culture of encounter, in which we meet as people with a shared dignity, within a throwaway culture that regards the well-being of the elderly, the unemployed, the disabled and the unborn as peripheral to our own well-being.

To come out of this crisis better, we have to recover the knowledge that as a people we have a shared destination. The pandemic has reminded us that no one is saved alone. What ties us to one another is what we commonly call solidarity. Solidarity is more than acts of generosity, important as they are; it is the call to embrace the reality that we are bound by bonds of reciprocity. On this solid foundation we can build a better, different, human future.
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:25 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:55 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:51 pm
CU77 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:57 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:24 pm A big Ef U to those saying, or even implying, that Covid deaths are no big deal for those already with one foot in the grave.
The one-foot-in-the-grave argument is nonsense. Look at the "excess deaths" statistics. This compares total deaths over a period to a baseline of the past few years. So far in 2020, there have been close to 300,000 excess deaths in the US, regardless of cause.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm

EDIT: this was already noted by Md above
fear porn disguised as math

"...based on ONE week......for the past five years....?

over 100K people died above how many died the year before. talking 2016. .

don't know how accurate the numbers are, regarding mortality, etc. in the link below.

Of note , in only 85 years, the life expectancy rate went from age 61, (1933) to almost age 80, today

( cdc website is a mess with all it's metadata hiding of files......so, there IS this article from the infotainment industry )

logicallty, IF population increases, it only makes sense that deaths would increase, from previous years. That is what the first number is capturing , IS not it? (avg. adjusted death rate )




https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/20 ... 111928450/
How many die of TB yearly? Less than that is probably a win.
https://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/fac ... trends.htm
Yes, that would indeed have been a 'win'!
South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong did it...

But Germany or Canada's rate would have been a 'win' comparatively too.
Much less Denmark, Finland, etc.
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

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