2020 Elections - Trump FIRED

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Trump threatens to wreak havoc on GOP from beyond the White House

Many conservatives perhaps wishing the state level prosecutions go forward to divert this wrecking ball of a man from turning on the GOP after he gets booted out of the Oval Office??

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old salt wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:47 pm
foreverlax wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:09 am
old salt wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:02 pm
njbill wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:44 pm
old salt wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:53 pm It precludes mailing ballots to voters who died, moved, or don't intend to vote. The more unsolicited ballots floating around, the greater the opportunity for fraud or harvestring.
You overstate the possible problem.

Voter rolls are culled, from time to time, of voters who have passed away. Might some ballots still be mailed to dead people? Yes, but the numbers are quite small. The most relevant issue, though, is what happens to those ballots. The huge majority will be either returned or simply thrown away. I suspect very, very few would actually be fraudulently cast. It is a felony after all. Plus you’d have to do a darn good job of forging a signature when you might not have a genuine one to copy.

I suspect the large number of people who move will put in a change of address. If they don’t, as above, few, if any, ballots will be fraudulently cast.

If someone doesn’t intend to vote, then they can simply discard the ballot.

All in all, I suspect the number of ballots that would be fraudulently cast would be minuscule at most.
How do you know ? Universal unsolicited mailings of ballots is new this election in many states.
There are 9 states where voters automatically receive a ballot....so 20% is now many? :lol:
Those are just the states where existing laws make it automatic. This year, because of covid, lawsuits in the weeks prior to the election allowed it in other states & lifted restrictions on absentee voting in still others.
MD is not on your list of 9 states, but we got unsolicited ballots in the mail,
as did MI -- https://www.forbes.com/sites/danielcass ... 4464092120
Here's an example of how the laws can be gamed & ballots can be sent to a dead person's address.
https://www.mcall.com/news/elections/mc ... story.html
...some of these unsolicited applications have been sent to the deceased or people who no longer live at that address, a sign that these organizations are using outdated mailing lists.
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It’s Time To Consider Sanctions for Trump’s Legal Team
Biden’s election victory has been recognized by every major media outlet, including Fox News, most international leaders, and all objective observers. Yet, Trump’s lawyers continue to file, press, and appeal suit after suit to support the president’s desperate effort to cling to power. While we support any campaign’s right to pursue valid legal claims, case after case has shown that there is no factual basis to support the efforts here, which are clearly intended to undermine confidence in election results and democratic institutions. It is a shameful irony that the profession charged with upholding the rule of law has so many members intent on helping a client subvert it.

Courts and state bars have power to punish and deter such misconduct. Judges have the inherent authority to discipline lawyers and can also impose financial sanctions under Rule 11. And when lawyers misbehave, state bars can impose stiff penalties, up to and including disbarment. With that power to demand compliance with ethical rules, comes a responsibility to act on violations. If ever there was a time for the bar to take that responsibility seriously, the time is now.
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old salt wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:57 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:47 pm
foreverlax wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:09 am
old salt wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:02 pm
njbill wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:44 pm
old salt wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:53 pm It precludes mailing ballots to voters who died, moved, or don't intend to vote. The more unsolicited ballots floating around, the greater the opportunity for fraud or harvestring.
You overstate the possible problem.

Voter rolls are culled, from time to time, of voters who have passed away. Might some ballots still be mailed to dead people? Yes, but the numbers are quite small. The most relevant issue, though, is what happens to those ballots. The huge majority will be either returned or simply thrown away. I suspect very, very few would actually be fraudulently cast. It is a felony after all. Plus you’d have to do a darn good job of forging a signature when you might not have a genuine one to copy.

I suspect the large number of people who move will put in a change of address. If they don’t, as above, few, if any, ballots will be fraudulently cast.

If someone doesn’t intend to vote, then they can simply discard the ballot.

All in all, I suspect the number of ballots that would be fraudulently cast would be minuscule at most.
How do you know ? Universal unsolicited mailings of ballots is new this election in many states.
There are 9 states where voters automatically receive a ballot....so 20% is now many? :lol:
Those are just the states where existing laws make it automatic. This year, because of covid, lawsuits in the weeks prior to the election allowed it in other states & lifted restrictions on absentee voting in still others.
MD is not on your list of 9 states, but we got unsolicited ballots in the mail,
as did MI -- https://www.forbes.com/sites/danielcass ... 4464092120
Here's an example of how the laws can be gamed & ballots can be sent to a dead person's address.
https://www.mcall.com/news/elections/mc ... story.html
...some of these unsolicited applications have been sent to the deceased or people who no longer live at that address, a sign that these organizations are using outdated mailing lists.
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Rudy prepares for a news conference:







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RT @davidfrum: Lin Wood speaks https://t.co/BKeumINJe6 https://t.co/hFNZMok71l
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Matnum PI wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:37 pm RT @davidfrum: Lin Wood speaks https://t.co/BKeumINJe6 https://t.co/hFNZMok71l
Gotta love it when they want to eat their own.
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Trump cares about Trump. Period. He does not care about the GOP, GOP voters, or otherwise.
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Matnum PI wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:47 pm Trump cares about Trump. Period. He does not care about the GOP, GOP voters, or otherwise.
That is b/c he is a democrat to the core...always has been.
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RT @mike_wanaoni:
@realDonaldTrump Media: No evidence of fraud.
Politicians: No evidence of fraud.
Legal experts: No evidence of fraud.
Election officials: No evidence of fraud.
Cybersecurity officials: No evidence of fraud.
Dept of Homeland Security: No evidence.
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youthathletics wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:57 pm That is b/c he is a democrat to the core...always has been.
He has a Narcissistic Personality Disorder to his core.
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Rudy and Jenna blew the deadline...that they established when they made their motion for expedited consideration. Waiting on the 4:00 PM brief....
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Sounds like grounds to dismiss the appeal to me.
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dislaxxic wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:01 pm It’s Time To Consider Sanctions for Trump’s Legal Team
Biden’s election victory has been recognized by every major media outlet, including Fox News, most international leaders, and all objective observers. Yet, Trump’s lawyers continue to file, press, and appeal suit after suit to support the president’s desperate effort to cling to power. While we support any campaign’s right to pursue valid legal claims, case after case has shown that there is no factual basis to support the efforts here, which are clearly intended to undermine confidence in election results and democratic institutions. It is a shameful irony that the profession charged with upholding the rule of law has so many members intent on helping a client subvert it.

Courts and state bars have power to punish and deter such misconduct. Judges have the inherent authority to discipline lawyers and can also impose financial sanctions under Rule 11. And when lawyers misbehave, state bars can impose stiff penalties, up to and including disbarment. With that power to demand compliance with ethical rules, comes a responsibility to act on violations. If ever there was a time for the bar to take that responsibility seriously, the time is now.
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old salt wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:47 pm
foreverlax wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:09 am
old salt wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:02 pm
njbill wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:44 pm
old salt wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:53 pm It precludes mailing ballots to voters who died, moved, or don't intend to vote. The more unsolicited ballots floating around, the greater the opportunity for fraud or harvestring.
You overstate the possible problem.

Voter rolls are culled, from time to time, of voters who have passed away. Might some ballots still be mailed to dead people? Yes, but the numbers are quite small. The most relevant issue, though, is what happens to those ballots. The huge majority will be either returned or simply thrown away. I suspect very, very few would actually be fraudulently cast. It is a felony after all. Plus you’d have to do a darn good job of forging a signature when you might not have a genuine one to copy.

I suspect the large number of people who move will put in a change of address. If they don’t, as above, few, if any, ballots will be fraudulently cast.

If someone doesn’t intend to vote, then they can simply discard the ballot.

All in all, I suspect the number of ballots that would be fraudulently cast would be minuscule at most.
How do you know ? Universal unsolicited mailings of ballots is new this election in many states.
There are 9 states where voters automatically receive a ballot....so 20% is now many? :lol:
Those are just the states where existing laws make it automatic. This year, because of covid, lawsuits in the weeks prior to the election allowed it in other states & lifted restrictions on absentee voting in still others.
MD is not on your list of 9 states, but we got unsolicited ballots in the mail,
as did MI -- https://www.forbes.com/sites/danielcass ... 4464092120
I believe that I got a request for a ballot...not the actual ballot itself.
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youthathletics wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:57 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:47 pm Trump cares about Trump. Period. He does not care about the GOP, GOP voters, or otherwise.
That is b/c he is a democrat to the core...always has been.
Thank you, been saying that for years. Trump was paying money to damn near every democrat in NYC at one time or another. How the hell trump pretended to be a republican is beyond me?
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youthathletics wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:57 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:47 pm Trump cares about Trump. Period. He does not care about the GOP, GOP voters, or otherwise.
That is b/c he is a democrat to the core...always has been.
Don’t tell “Republicans” that....

The survey found that Trump's job approval rating dipped from 46 percent just before Election Day to 43 percent earlier this month.

The polling firm noted that he garnered a 90 percent job approval rating among Republicans following the election, down from 95 percent before voters went to the polls.


Thirty-nine percent of independents approved of the president in the new survey, compared to 41 percent prior to the election. His 3 percent approval rating among Democrats was unchanged.
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youthathletics wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:57 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:47 pm Trump cares about Trump. Period. He does not care about the GOP, GOP voters, or otherwise.
That is b/c he is a democrat to the core...always has been.
No, Fantasy Captain. He’s the head of your party, the party that would, if it could, unlawfully overturn the results of an election in which 80,000,000 people voted against your Dear Leader. This is on you. No shifting the blame.
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Now that Michigan has certified, I suspect Trump will invite Sid back onto the team as it seems her “the aliens did it” theory is his best remaining argument.
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seacoaster wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:16 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:57 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:47 pm Trump cares about Trump. Period. He does not care about the GOP, GOP voters, or otherwise.
That is b/c he is a democrat to the core...always has been.
No, Fantasy Captain. He’s the head of your party, the party that would, if it could, unlawfully overturn the results of an election in which 80,000,000 people voted against your Dear Leader. This is on you. No shifting the blame.
Wake up sleepy head....he's been a democrat his entire life. If it makes you feel better to blame someone all the time.....you are no different than Trump. ;)
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