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Agree it is better to not do things on the fly if you can avoid it.

So the goal absolutely should not be to "demonstrate the vulnerability of universal unsolicited mail-in voting for future elections." That's just BS partisan hackery and vote suppression. Period.

A good goal would be to implement election system reforms so we have convenient and secure election systems for future elections. With widely available to universal mail voting being a corner stone.

Notice the difference between those two?
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wgdsr wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:15 pm
ggait wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:46 pm
3. demonstrate the vulnerability of universal unsolicited mail-in voting for future elections
Colorado just finished its fourth federal election with universal unsolicited mail in voting. Here's what the evidence from that demonstrates:

It works awesome.

Gold standard for voting in the USA.

Voters of both parties love it.

Increases turnout.

Saves money.

Highly secure.

Results available within minutes (assuming you start counting when ballots arrive).

TL/DR: You are a vote-supressing partisan hack afraid of the voters if you think there's a reason to oppose this.

https://thefulcrum.us/colorado-vote-by-mail
was all for the rules and regs set up by colo when you posted them. read it thru.

what we're seeing now was really difficult to predict given all the states doing a back and forth on the fly leading up to election month and not exactly doing a colorado facsimile. and of course, the duce.
A lit of decisions are made on the fly.....the states modifying their mail in voting program in the face of a pandemic prove to be a win win..... how about a round of applause for American Ingenuity....we have tha “Can Do” spirit......support your new President. Voter suppression is for losers.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:23 am
wgdsr wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:15 pm
ggait wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:46 pm
3. demonstrate the vulnerability of universal unsolicited mail-in voting for future elections
Colorado just finished its fourth federal election with universal unsolicited mail in voting. Here's what the evidence from that demonstrates:

It works awesome.

Gold standard for voting in the USA.

Voters of both parties love it.

Increases turnout.

Saves money.

Highly secure.

Results available within minutes (assuming you start counting when ballots arrive).

TL/DR: You are a vote-supressing partisan hack afraid of the voters if you think there's a reason to oppose this.

https://thefulcrum.us/colorado-vote-by-mail
was all for the rules and regs set up by colo when you posted them. read it thru.

what we're seeing now was really difficult to predict given all the states doing a back and forth on the fly leading up to election month and not exactly doing a colorado facsimile. and of course, the duce.
A lit of decisions are made on the fly.....the states modifying their mail-in voting program in the face of a pandemic prove to be a win win..... how about a round of applause for American Ingenuity....we have tha “Can Do” spirit......support your new President. Voter suppression is for losers.
Again , my words : 3. demonstrate the vulnerability of universal unsolicited mail-in voting for future elections
were my specific answer to calourie as to what I think GOP leadership is trying to accomplish.

My personal preference, posted repeatedly, has been to use this election as a lab experiment to refine the mail in process going forward, reducing the opportunity for error & fraud. Refusing to do an autopsy in each state fails to take advantage of the unique opportunity this election presents.

Biden won. Fear of diminishing that victory should not deter us from finding counting errors or fraud in this election, correcting the final tally & taking steps to prevent them next election. Most states don't have CO's years of experience with universal mail in voting.

That's why it's important to take advantage of this unique high turn out opportunity to conduct an autopsy.
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Georgia will certify their election today. MI and PA will do the same Monday. A manual, hand recount added 1,400 votes to DOPUS' total (one county controlled by GOP failed to count those votes the first time and the clerk was canned yesterday) but he still loses by 12,000+ votes.

In addition, Georgia the SoS (also a republican) mentioned that 24,000+ GOP-registered voters who voted absentee in the primary earlier this year did not vote in November and had they voted the stable genius would have taken Georgia.

Sometimes a-holes do get what they deserve. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Nice to see Rudy Colludy sweating hair dye or mascara rather than bullets. Like DOPUS and Powell they all need an intervention. Tucker Carlson offered Sid Kraken a full hour last night to display her evidence but she took a pass. Fantasy Island meets My Cousin Vinny. Cannot wait for the posi-traction expert to testify. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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old salt wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:00 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:23 am
wgdsr wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:15 pm
ggait wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:46 pm
3. demonstrate the vulnerability of universal unsolicited mail-in voting for future elections
Colorado just finished its fourth federal election with universal unsolicited mail in voting. Here's what the evidence from that demonstrates:

It works awesome.

Gold standard for voting in the USA.

Voters of both parties love it.

Increases turnout.

Saves money.

Highly secure.

Results available within minutes (assuming you start counting when ballots arrive).

TL/DR: You are a vote-supressing partisan hack afraid of the voters if you think there's a reason to oppose this.

https://thefulcrum.us/colorado-vote-by-mail
was all for the rules and regs set up by colo when you posted them. read it thru.

what we're seeing now was really difficult to predict given all the states doing a back and forth on the fly leading up to election month and not exactly doing a colorado facsimile. and of course, the duce.
A lit of decisions are made on the fly.....the states modifying their mail-in voting program in the face of a pandemic prove to be a win win..... how about a round of applause for American Ingenuity....we have tha “Can Do” spirit......support your new President. Voter suppression is for losers.
Again , my words : 3. demonstrate the vulnerability of universal unsolicited mail-in voting for future elections
were my specific answer to calourie as to what I think GOP leadership is trying to accomplish.

My personal preference, posted repeatedly, has been to use this election as a lab experiment to refine the mail in process going forward, reducing the opportunity for error & fraud. Refusing to do an autopsy in each state fails to take advantage of the unique opportunity this election presents.

Biden won. Fear of diminishing that victory should not deter us from finding counting errors or fraud in this election, correcting the final tally & taking steps to prevent them next election. Most states don't have CO's years of experience with universal mail in voting.

That's why it's important to take advantage of this unique high turn out opportunity to conduct an autopsy.
If you are genuine...“Demonstrate” is the wrong choice of words in that sentence counselor.... “Determine” isn’t so “partisan hackish” Cap’n. YOUR choice of the word “demonstrate” indicates that you have already made a determination.
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November 19, 2020 (Thursday)
Today Trump continued his assault on our democracy, trying to overturn what at this point is a very clear victory for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden and his running mate Kamala Harris.
Today, Trump’s lawyers Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell alleged—without evidence—widespread fraud in the election and that Biden won because of “the massive influence of communist money through Venezuela, Cuba, and likely China and the interference with our elections here in the United States.” On his Fox News Channel show, personality Tucker Carlson noted that Powell refused to produce any evidence for any of her outlandish claims. The Washington Post described the press conference in which Trump’s lawyers made these allegations as “truly bonkers.”
Rick Hasen, an election law expert, wrote, “This is very dangerous for our democracy, as it is an attempt to thwart the will of the voters through political pressure from the President…. Even though it is extremely unlikely to work, it is profoundly antidemocratic and a violation of the rule of law. It's inexcusable.” And yet, the official Twitter account of the Republican Party endorsed Powell’s statements.
The goal of Trump’s team is not to make a coherent argument; they have lost 31 lawsuits so far, and have racked up only 2 quite minor wins that do not affect the outcome. They are simply creating a narrative to muddy the waters, apparently either to get legislatures to replace Democratic electors with Republican ones, or to delay the certification of ballots to throw the election into the House of Representatives, where they think Trump has a chance of winning. They are making no pretense that Trump is the choice of a majority of voters-- Biden is ahead by almost 6 million votes. Rather, they are trying to game the Electoral College.
This is a long shot that gets longer every day. Today, Trump invited to the White House Michigan lawmakers and the Republican canvass board members from Wayne County who first certified the ballots that elected Biden, and then, after Trump reached out to them, declared they wanted to “rescind” their approval of the ballot counts. But it was too late to change the certification of the ballots.
Tonight, the Republican secretary of state from Georgia, Brad Raffensperger, announced the result of the hand audit of ballots there, too. He confirmed that Biden has won Georgia. It turned out there were indeed some minor errors in the original count, but they were concentrated not in Democratic counties, but in Floyd County, which is Republican.
Today, the House Committee on Oversight and Reform called out Emily Murphy, the administrator at the General Services Administration responsible for refusing to acknowledge Biden’s victory. Her refusal has kept Biden’s people from access to intelligence and federal staffers who could help them prepare to hit the ground running when Biden takes office in January. The committee members wrote a letter pointing out that Biden has won by nearly six million votes and has been identified as the winner of the 2020 election by all major news media outlets. At this point, members of the committee say, “there is no conceivable argument that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are not ‘the apparent successful candidates for the office of President and Vice President,’” the standard the law sets for recognizing an incoming administration.
The committee wrote: “[T]here is no legitimate path forward for President Trump—regardless of how many baseless lawsuits he files or his irrelevant refusal to concede. He has now lost dozens of cases in multiple states as many of his own attorneys abandon his effort.” It went on, “Your actions in blocking transition activities required under the law are having grave effects, including undermining the orderly transfer of power, impairing the incoming Administration’s ability to respond to the coronavirus pandemic, hampering its ability to address our nation’s dire economic crisis, and endangering our national security.” The committee demanded Murphy brief them no later than Monday on why she is refusing to grant the Biden-Harris team access to the critical services and facilities required by law.
Trump’s attempt to steal this election is a fundamental attack on our democracy.
It is prompted in part, perhaps, by the fact that, as soon as he leaves office, Trump can no longer claim protection from indictments. Tonight the New York Times noted that two different investigations by the state of New York into Trump and his businesses have expanded to include tax write-offs for about $26 million in consulting fees, some of which appears to have gone to Ivanka Trump. She lashed out on Twitter, calling the investigation “harassment pure and simple… motivated by politics, publicity and rage.”
Even some Republican lawmakers are calling out Trump’s assault for what it is. Today Maryland Governor Larry Hogan said “It’s outrageous. It’s an assault on democracy…. It’s bad for the Republican Party.” Senator Ben Sasse (R-NE) issued a statement pointing out that the president’s lawyers have refused to allege any fraud while under oath in a court, “because there are legal consequences for lying to judges.” “We are a nation of laws, not tweets,” he said.
Tonight on Twitter, Mitt Romney (R-UT) wrote, “Having failed to make even a plausible case of widespread fraud or conspiracy before any court of law, the President has now resorted to overt pressure on states and local officials to subvert the will of the people and overturn the election. It is difficult to imagine a worse, more undemocratic action by a sitting American president.”
Trump’s attack is not the first assault our democracy has withstood. In the 1860s, southern slaveowners sought to destroy the United States of America in order to create their own nation, based on the principle that white men were better than women and people of color, and naturally should rule over them.
On this date in 1863, at the dedication of a national cemetery at Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, for the men who had died there in a terrible battle the previous July, President Abraham Lincoln reminded Americans what was at stake. Packed in the midst of a sea of men in frock coats, he spoke for just two minutes.
Lincoln reminded the audience that America was “conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.” The raging civil war was a test to see whether America, or indeed whether any nation based on that revolutionary principle, could survive.
Lincoln honored “the brave men, living and dead,” who had fought at Gettysburg, but noted that their struggle there had already consecrated the ground “far above our poor power to add or detract.”
Instead, he told the audience, the dedication ceremony was for the living. “It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us,” he said, “that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”
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old salt wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:00 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:23 am
wgdsr wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:15 pm
ggait wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:46 pm
3. demonstrate the vulnerability of universal unsolicited mail-in voting for future elections
Colorado just finished its fourth federal election with universal unsolicited mail in voting. Here's what the evidence from that demonstrates:

It works awesome.

Gold standard for voting in the USA.

Voters of both parties love it.

Increases turnout.

Saves money.

Highly secure.

Results available within minutes (assuming you start counting when ballots arrive).

TL/DR: You are a vote-supressing partisan hack afraid of the voters if you think there's a reason to oppose this.

https://thefulcrum.us/colorado-vote-by-mail
was all for the rules and regs set up by colo when you posted them. read it thru.

what we're seeing now was really difficult to predict given all the states doing a back and forth on the fly leading up to election month and not exactly doing a colorado facsimile. and of course, the duce.
A lit of decisions are made on the fly.....the states modifying their mail-in voting program in the face of a pandemic prove to be a win win..... how about a round of applause for American Ingenuity....we have tha “Can Do” spirit......support your new President. Voter suppression is for losers.
Again , my words : 3. demonstrate the vulnerability of universal unsolicited mail-in voting for future elections
were my specific answer to calourie as to what I think GOP leadership is trying to accomplish.

My personal preference, posted repeatedly, has been to use this election as a lab experiment to refine the mail in process going forward, reducing the opportunity for error & fraud. Refusing to do an autopsy in each state fails to take advantage of the unique opportunity this election presents.

Biden won. Fear of diminishing that victory should not deter us from finding counting errors or fraud in this election, correcting the final tally & taking steps to prevent them next election. Most states don't have CO's years of experience with universal mail in voting.

That's why it's important to take advantage of this unique high turn out opportunity to conduct an autopsy.
Again all sorts of loaded words. Who is "refusing to do an autopsy"?
Do you mean a review, not "autopsy? The latter implies a crime, the former does not.

Reviews are done regularly, and surely they will be done in each state with any issues observed.

Are you including in your "autopsy" a review of decisions like closing polling stations in dense areas, limiting drop boxes in dense areas? Lawsuits to not allow the count of validly cast ballots?

Who says there's a 'fear' of anything? Much less diminishing Biden's win...

We know who says there was "fraud" :roll: ...but no actual evidence such occurred, certainly not in any sort of systematic or widespread sense. so, why suggest otherwise yet again?
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:01 am
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:00 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:23 am
wgdsr wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:15 pm
ggait wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:46 pm
3. demonstrate the vulnerability of universal unsolicited mail-in voting for future elections
Colorado just finished its fourth federal election with universal unsolicited mail in voting. Here's what the evidence from that demonstrates:

It works awesome.

Gold standard for voting in the USA.

Voters of both parties love it.

Increases turnout.

Saves money.

Highly secure.

Results available within minutes (assuming you start counting when ballots arrive).

TL/DR: You are a vote-supressing partisan hack afraid of the voters if you think there's a reason to oppose this.

https://thefulcrum.us/colorado-vote-by-mail
was all for the rules and regs set up by colo when you posted them. read it thru.

what we're seeing now was really difficult to predict given all the states doing a back and forth on the fly leading up to election month and not exactly doing a colorado facsimile. and of course, the duce.
A lit of decisions are made on the fly.....the states modifying their mail-in voting program in the face of a pandemic prove to be a win win..... how about a round of applause for American Ingenuity....we have tha “Can Do” spirit......support your new President. Voter suppression is for losers.
Again , my words : 3. demonstrate the vulnerability of universal unsolicited mail-in voting for future elections
were my specific answer to calourie as to what I think GOP leadership is trying to accomplish.

My personal preference, posted repeatedly, has been to use this election as a lab experiment to refine the mail in process going forward, reducing the opportunity for error & fraud. Refusing to do an autopsy in each state fails to take advantage of the unique opportunity this election presents.

Biden won. Fear of diminishing that victory should not deter us from finding counting errors or fraud in this election, correcting the final tally & taking steps to prevent them next election. Most states don't have CO's years of experience with universal mail in voting.

That's why it's important to take advantage of this unique high turn out opportunity to conduct an autopsy.
Again all sorts of loaded words. Who is "refusing to do an autopsy"?
Do you mean a review, not "autopsy? The latter implies a crime, the former does not.

Reviews are done regularly, and surely they will be done in each state with any issues observed.

Are you including in your "autopsy" a review of decisions like closing polling stations in dense areas, limiting drop boxes in dense areas? Lawsuits to not allow the count of validly cast ballots?

Who says there's a 'fear' of anything? Much less diminishing Biden's win...

We know who says there was "fraud" :roll: ...but no actual evidence such occurred, certainly not in any sort of systematic or widespread sense. so, why suggest otherwise yet again?
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3. demonstrate the vulnerability of universal unsolicited mail-in voting for future elections
So we need to know this...even though it didn't happen this time?
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foreverlax wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:43 am
3. demonstrate the vulnerability of universal unsolicited mail-in voting for future elections
So we need to know this...even though it didn't happen this time?
My wife and i received an application in the mail for the women who lived in our house 15 years ago. If my wife and i had known who Irma would have wanted us to vote for I suppose we could have sent the ballot back in and let her deceased voice be heard. ;) I was tempted to do it just to see if anybody from our board of elections would have caught on. :D
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cradleandshoot wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:06 am
foreverlax wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:43 am
3. demonstrate the vulnerability of universal unsolicited mail-in voting for future elections
So we need to know this...even though it didn't happen this time?
My wife and i received an application in the mail for the women who lived in our house 15 years ago. If my wife and i had known who Irma would have wanted us to vote for I suppose we could have sent the ballot back in and let her deceased voice be heard. ;) I was tempted to do it just to see if anybody from our board of elections would have caught on. :D
Your temptation could have gotten you more than a little attention....voter fraud isn't rolling through a red and hoping the camera doesn't catch you.
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foreverlax wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:30 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:06 am
foreverlax wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:43 am
3. demonstrate the vulnerability of universal unsolicited mail-in voting for future elections
So we need to know this...even though it didn't happen this time?
My wife and i received an application in the mail for the women who lived in our house 15 years ago. If my wife and i had known who Irma would have wanted us to vote for I suppose we could have sent the ballot back in and let her deceased voice be heard. ;) I was tempted to do it just to see if anybody from our board of elections would have caught on. :D
Your temptation could have gotten you more than a little attention....voter fraud isn't rolling through a red and hoping the camera doesn't catch you.
The ballot promptly went into the recycle bin. I just had a hard time figuring out why they sent a woman who had been dead for 15 years a ballot in the first place. I guess updating voter roles is not a high priority in very many citys. I have to correct myself, it was not a ballot, it was an application for an absentee ballot.
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Question for legal eagles on here: can states sue Trump / Giuliani or others for slander (or libel if tweeted or other) regarding claims of widespread voter fraud when there is none?
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holmes435 wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:12 am Question for legal eagles on here: can states sue Trump / Giuliani or others for slander (or libel if tweeted or other) regarding claims of widespread voter fraud when there is none?
I don't have a legal answer but i do know one thing. They would have to get at the back of a very long line of legal agencies that all want a chunk out of trumps backside.
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Dominion prolly has a pretty good case against Kraken Sid.
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Agreed; Dominion probably has a case against Trump for President Inc., and Syd and Rudy, for trade defamation that would survive a motion to dismiss.

Here is the actor Edward Norton's take:

https://twitter.com/EdwardNorton/status ... 55328?s=20

"I’m no political pundit but I grew up w a dad who was a federal prosecutor & he taught me a lot & I’ve also sat a fair amount of poker w serious players & l’ll say this: I do not think Trump is trying to ‘make his base happy’ or ‘laying the groundwork for his own network’...

I’m no political pundit but I grew up w a dad who was a federal prosecutor & he taught me a lot & I’ve also sat a fair amount of poker w serious players & l’ll say this: I do not think Trump is trying to ‘make his base happy’ or ‘laying the groundwork for his own network’...

..which is to create enough chaos & anxiety about peaceful transfer of power, & fear of irreparable damage to the system, that he can cut a Nixon-style deal in exchange for finally conceding. But he doesn’t have the cards. His bluff after ‘the flop’ has been called in court...

His ‘turn card’ bluff will be an escalation & his ‘River card’ bluff could be really ugly. But they have to be called. We cannot let this mobster bully the USA into a deal to save his ass by threatening our democracy. THAT is his play. But he’s got junk in his hand. So call him.

I will allow that he’s also a whiny, sulky, petulant, Grinchy, vindictive little 10-ply-super-soft complain who no doubt is just throwing a wicked pout fest & trying to give a tiny-hand middle finger to the whole country for pure spite, without a single thought for the dead & dying

But his contemptible, treasonous, seditious assault on the stability of our political compact isn’t about 2024, personal enrichment or anything else other than trying to use chaos & threat to the foundation of the system as leverage to trade for a safe exit. Call. His. Bluff."
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seacoaster wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:38 am Agreed; Dominion probably has a case against Trump for President Inc., and Syd and Rudy, for trade defamation that would survive a motion to dismiss.

Here is the actor Edward Norton's take:

https://twitter.com/EdwardNorton/status ... 55328?s=20

"I’m no political pundit but I grew up w a dad who was a federal prosecutor & he taught me a lot & I’ve also sat a fair amount of poker w serious players & l’ll say this: I do not think Trump is trying to ‘make his base happy’ or ‘laying the groundwork for his own network’...

I’m no political pundit but I grew up w a dad who was a federal prosecutor & he taught me a lot & I’ve also sat a fair amount of poker w serious players & l’ll say this: I do not think Trump is trying to ‘make his base happy’ or ‘laying the groundwork for his own network’...

..which is to create enough chaos & anxiety about peaceful transfer of power, & fear of irreparable damage to the system, that he can cut a Nixon-style deal in exchange for finally conceding. But he doesn’t have the cards. His bluff after ‘the flop’ has been called in court...

His ‘turn card’ bluff will be an escalation & his ‘River card’ bluff could be really ugly. But they have to be called. We cannot let this mobster bully the USA into a deal to save his ass by threatening our democracy. THAT is his play. But he’s got junk in his hand. So call him.

I will allow that he’s also a whiny, sulky, petulant, Grinchy, vindictive little 10-ply-super-soft complain who no doubt is just throwing a wicked pout fest & trying to give a tiny-hand middle finger to the whole country for pure spite, without a single thought for the dead & dying

But his contemptible, treasonous, seditious assault on the stability of our political compact isn’t about 2024, personal enrichment or anything else other than trying to use chaos & threat to the foundation of the system as leverage to trade for a safe exit. Call. His. Bluff."
I enjoyed your post immensely coaster. As a poker aficionado Ed Nortons analogies were spot on. Trump has been bluffing with a dead hand for so long that nobody will fall for it. Today is the day he should fold em and walk away.
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And this neat overview of the damage the President, minions and complicit silent Republicans are doin to the Country:

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1329803817362198529
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cradleandshoot wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:58 am
seacoaster wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:38 am Agreed; Dominion probably has a case against Trump for President Inc., and Syd and Rudy, for trade defamation that would survive a motion to dismiss.

Here is the actor Edward Norton's take:

https://twitter.com/EdwardNorton/status ... 55328?s=20

"I’m no political pundit but I grew up w a dad who was a federal prosecutor & he taught me a lot & I’ve also sat a fair amount of poker w serious players & l’ll say this: I do not think Trump is trying to ‘make his base happy’ or ‘laying the groundwork for his own network’...

I’m no political pundit but I grew up w a dad who was a federal prosecutor & he taught me a lot & I’ve also sat a fair amount of poker w serious players & l’ll say this: I do not think Trump is trying to ‘make his base happy’ or ‘laying the groundwork for his own network’...

..which is to create enough chaos & anxiety about peaceful transfer of power, & fear of irreparable damage to the system, that he can cut a Nixon-style deal in exchange for finally conceding. But he doesn’t have the cards. His bluff after ‘the flop’ has been called in court...

His ‘turn card’ bluff will be an escalation & his ‘River card’ bluff could be really ugly. But they have to be called. We cannot let this mobster bully the USA into a deal to save his ass by threatening our democracy. THAT is his play. But he’s got junk in his hand. So call him.

I will allow that he’s also a whiny, sulky, petulant, Grinchy, vindictive little 10-ply-super-soft complain who no doubt is just throwing a wicked pout fest & trying to give a tiny-hand middle finger to the whole country for pure spite, without a single thought for the dead & dying

But his contemptible, treasonous, seditious assault on the stability of our political compact isn’t about 2024, personal enrichment or anything else other than trying to use chaos & threat to the foundation of the system as leverage to trade for a safe exit. Call. His. Bluff."
I enjoyed your post immensely coaster. As a poker aficionado your analogies were spot on. Trump has been bluffing with a dead hand for so long that nobody will fall for it. Today is the day he should fold em and walk away.
Glad you liked it; it was all by the actor Edward Norton. I thought it was darn good too.
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Re: 2020 Elections - Donald Trump FIRED

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seacoaster wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:59 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:58 am
seacoaster wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:38 am Agreed; Dominion probably has a case against Trump for President Inc., and Syd and Rudy, for trade defamation that would survive a motion to dismiss.

Here is the actor Edward Norton's take:

https://twitter.com/EdwardNorton/status ... 55328?s=20

"I’m no political pundit but I grew up w a dad who was a federal prosecutor & he taught me a lot & I’ve also sat a fair amount of poker w serious players & l’ll say this: I do not think Trump is trying to ‘make his base happy’ or ‘laying the groundwork for his own network’...

I’m no political pundit but I grew up w a dad who was a federal prosecutor & he taught me a lot & I’ve also sat a fair amount of poker w serious players & l’ll say this: I do not think Trump is trying to ‘make his base happy’ or ‘laying the groundwork for his own network’...

..which is to create enough chaos & anxiety about peaceful transfer of power, & fear of irreparable damage to the system, that he can cut a Nixon-style deal in exchange for finally conceding. But he doesn’t have the cards. His bluff after ‘the flop’ has been called in court...

His ‘turn card’ bluff will be an escalation & his ‘River card’ bluff could be really ugly. But they have to be called. We cannot let this mobster bully the USA into a deal to save his ass by threatening our democracy. THAT is his play. But he’s got junk in his hand. So call him.

I will allow that he’s also a whiny, sulky, petulant, Grinchy, vindictive little 10-ply-super-soft complain who no doubt is just throwing a wicked pout fest & trying to give a tiny-hand middle finger to the whole country for pure spite, without a single thought for the dead & dying

But his contemptible, treasonous, seditious assault on the stability of our political compact isn’t about 2024, personal enrichment or anything else other than trying to use chaos & threat to the foundation of the system as leverage to trade for a safe exit. Call. His. Bluff."
I enjoyed your post immensely coaster. As a poker aficionado your analogies were spot on. Trump has been bluffing with a dead hand for so long that nobody will fall for it. Today is the day he should fold em and walk away.
Glad you liked it; it was all by the actor Edward Norton. I thought it was darn good too.
It was very good. Sent it to a friend that loved Rounders. 21 and Molly’s Game were also very good.
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