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Up until last week, I had never read Trump’s twitter feed.....it was mind boggling. I have decided to take a look and see what craziness is posted every few days.....the fact that we have grown ups that are devoted to that guy is unbelievable....I can’t believe how far people in this country have fallen...it’s staggering.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/sta ... 08608?s=21
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:09 pm Up until last week, I had never read Trump’s twitter feed.....it was mind boggling. I have decided to take a look and see what craziness is posted every few days.....the fact that we have grown ups that are devoted to that guy is unbelievable....I can’t believe how far people in this country have fallen...it’s staggering.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/sta ... 08608?s=21
I never could understand why anybody that was POTUS would use twotter in the first place. Are you not too busy running the country to deal with such foolishness?
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:51 pm Cradle
I’m not asking for Kelly to violate classified information, not now, not ever. Makes no difference whether trump is in office or after.

But tell the American people what you think about him, based upon your experience. Before they vote.

Not to sell books.
No problem there. he never came out and said it directly but i believe he made his opinion of trump very

clear.https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/16/politics ... index.html

If he told his friends I'm certain he knew the word would get out.
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cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:22 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:09 pm Up until last week, I had never read Trump’s twitter feed.....it was mind boggling. I have decided to take a look and see what craziness is posted every few days.....the fact that we have grown ups that are devoted to that guy is unbelievable....I can’t believe how far people in this country have fallen...it’s staggering.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/sta ... 08608?s=21
I never could understand why anybody that was POTUS would use twotter in the first place. Are you not too busy running the country to deal with such foolishness?
It is staggering. If someone dropped into the USA from 20 years ago and looked at the state of our civics, they would not believe this was America. People here carrying his water should be ashamed of themselves. Has nothing to do with politics and everything to so with being a responsible adult.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:09 pm Up until last week, I had never read Trump’s twitter feed.....it was mind boggling. I have decided to take a look and see what craziness is posted every few days.....the fact that we have grown ups that are devoted to that guy is unbelievable....I can’t believe how far people in this country have fallen...it’s staggering.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/sta ... 08608?s=21
I converted two 2016 Trump voters to the Anyone-But-Trump camp by simply challenging them to read every one of Trump's tweets for 7 days. One made it 48 hours before disavowing the President, but the other lasted almost 6 days. The three other Trump fans to whom I issued the same challenge refused to even read one of his tweets, which was delicious.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:30 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:22 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:09 pm Up until last week, I had never read Trump’s twitter feed.....it was mind boggling. I have decided to take a look and see what craziness is posted every few days.....the fact that we have grown ups that are devoted to that guy is unbelievable....I can’t believe how far people in this country have fallen...it’s staggering.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/sta ... 08608?s=21
I never could understand why anybody that was POTUS would use twotter in the first place. Are you not too busy running the country to deal with such foolishness?
It is staggering. If someone dropped into the USA from 20 years ago and looked at the state of our civics, they would not believe this was America. People here carrying his water should be ashamed of themselves. Has nothing to do with politics and everything to so with being a responsible adult.
Donald Trump represents the last gasp of overt racism, bigotry, and misogyny in this country. None of that will go away with his defeat, but those who share his repugnant “values” have seen the apex of their power.

I have made many comparisons to 1990s California Gov. Pete Wilson, although Wilson was never quite as bad as Trump. White conservatives in California made their last stand with Wilson as the demographics of the state changed. The California GOP had a chance to embrace this change and cater to all the people in the state. Instead, they chose to fight for their racism, bigotry, and misogyny. Scumbags like Devin Nunes are the fading remnants of Pete Wilson’s legacy.

Meanwhile, Hispanic Americans are now the largest single ethnic group in California. The former Republican citadel in Orange County fell in 2018. The former GOP fortress in San Diego fell this year, with a Democratic Mayor and a nearly all-Democratic City Counsel. For the most part, the California Republican Party has been exiled to rural areas of the state.

We are seeing that with the national Republican Party as well. Arizona and Georgia turned Democrat this year. Texas will be a full blown swing state, probably around 2024 or 2026. Republicans have not won the popular vote for president since 2004, and just once after 1988. It is very likely that many of you will never again see the Republicans win the presidential popular vote in your lifetimes.

Biden’s victory will not vanquish the racism, bigotry, and misogyny that fueled Trump’s rise to power. Heck, we have already seen that on our own forum.

But know this, if you shared Trump’s malignant view of the world, you have seen the best of your political days. It will take a generation to undo the damage that you and Trump have done to our nation. The hard work has only begun. Time for you to step aside and let the rest of us get to work in cleaning up your mess.

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smoova wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:55 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:09 pm Up until last week, I had never read Trump’s twitter feed.....it was mind boggling. I have decided to take a look and see what craziness is posted every few days.....the fact that we have grown ups that are devoted to that guy is unbelievable....I can’t believe how far people in this country have fallen...it’s staggering.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/sta ... 08608?s=21
I converted two 2016 Trump voters to the Anyone-But-Trump camp by simply challenging them to read every one of Trump's tweets feed for 7 days. One made it 48 hours before disavowing the President, but the other lasted almost 6 days. The three other Trump fans to whom I issued the same challenge refused to even read one of his tweets, which was delicious.
I don’t follow politicians or root for them like a sports fan and read their twitter feeds.....However, if anyone tells me about a politician acting a fool on Twitter, I will take a look. If it’s someone that would ever show up on my ballot, I won’t vote for them.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:03 pm
smoova wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:55 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:09 pm Up until last week, I had never read Trump’s twitter feed.....it was mind boggling. I have decided to take a look and see what craziness is posted every few days.....the fact that we have grown ups that are devoted to that guy is unbelievable....I can’t believe how far people in this country have fallen...it’s staggering.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/sta ... 08608?s=21
I converted two 2016 Trump voters to the Anyone-But-Trump camp by simply challenging them to read every one of Trump's tweets feed for 7 days. One made it 48 hours before disavowing the President, but the other lasted almost 6 days. The three other Trump fans to whom I issued the same challenge refused to even read one of his tweets, which was delicious.
I don’t follow politicians or root for them like a sports fan and read their twitter feeds.....However, if anyone tells me about a politician acting a fool on Twitter, I will take a look. If it’s someone that would ever show up on my ballot, I won’t vote for them.
The malignant loon responsible for the garbage on the Trump Twitter feed controls the most powerful military force in human history and commands enough nuclear weapons to destroy all human life on Earth.

Trump’s supporters here should contemplate that and the recklessness of their support for him.

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Two hardcore Trump supporters die and ascend to heaven.

God meets them at the pearly gates and asks if they have any question. One of them says, "Yes, what were the real results of the 2020 election and who was behind the fraud?"

God say, "my son, there was no fraud. Biden won fair and square."

After a few seconds of stunned silence, the one guy turns to the other and whispers, "This goes higher up than we thought."
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:51 am Or, there really isn't conflict. I think that was the case with Kelly in the instance of the policy to separate parents and children at the border. If I recall correctly, he made statements at the time denying there was such a policy, statements which were later proven to be flat untrue.

But we don't actually know enough about what went down when Kelly was CoS to really have the full story, so I'm willing to make some positive assumptions about that period. But after he left, knowing what he knew, and watching the further actions of Trump, an act of "integrity", in service of his country, not the man, would have been to have spoken up. It would have mattered. It would now as well.
It was AG Sessions policy via his WH protege S Miller. It blindsided CoS Kelly & the new DHS.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na- ... story.html
https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... ion-policy
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nation ... story.html

There were numerous reported shouting matches between Trump & Kelly, on several issues.
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old salt wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:12 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:51 am Or, there really isn't conflict. I think that was the case with Kelly in the instance of the policy to separate parents and children at the border. If I recall correctly, he made statements at the time denying there was such a policy, statements which were later proven to be flat untrue.

But we don't actually know enough about what went down when Kelly was CoS to really have the full story, so I'm willing to make some positive assumptions about that period. But after he left, knowing what he knew, and watching the further actions of Trump, an act of "integrity", in service of his country, not the man, would have been to have spoken up. It would have mattered. It would now as well.
It was AG Sessions policy via his WH protege S Miller. It blindsided CoS Kelly & the new DHS.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... ion-policy
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nation ... story.html

There were numerous reported shouting matches between Trump & Kelly, on several issues.
I may be wrong but most of your run of the mill lackeys don't get into shouting matches with their boss?
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old salt wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:12 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:51 am Or, there really isn't conflict. I think that was the case with Kelly in the instance of the policy to separate parents and children at the border. If I recall correctly, he made statements at the time denying there was such a policy, statements which were later proven to be flat untrue.

But we don't actually know enough about what went down when Kelly was CoS to really have the full story, so I'm willing to make some positive assumptions about that period. But after he left, knowing what he knew, and watching the further actions of Trump, an act of "integrity", in service of his country, not the man, would have been to have spoken up. It would have mattered. It would now as well.
It was AG Sessions policy via his WH protege S Miller. It blindsided CoS Kelly & the new DHS.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na- ... story.html
https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... ion-policy
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nation ... story.html

There were numerous reported shouting matches between Trump & Kelly, on several issues.
Who reported that to the press?
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:28 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:12 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:51 am Or, there really isn't conflict. I think that was the case with Kelly in the instance of the policy to separate parents and children at the border. If I recall correctly, he made statements at the time denying there was such a policy, statements which were later proven to be flat untrue.

But we don't actually know enough about what went down when Kelly was CoS to really have the full story, so I'm willing to make some positive assumptions about that period. But after he left, knowing what he knew, and watching the further actions of Trump, an act of "integrity", in service of his country, not the man, would have been to have spoken up. It would have mattered. It would now as well.
It was AG Sessions policy via his WH protege S Miller. It blindsided CoS Kelly & the new DHS.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na- ... story.html
https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... ion-policy
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nation ... story.html

There were numerous reported shouting matches between Trump & Kelly, on several issues.
Who reported that to the press?
Ask NBC.
https://grabien.com/story.php?id=132937
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cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:25 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:51 pm Cradle
I’m not asking for Kelly to violate classified information, not now, not ever. Makes no difference whether trump is in office or after.

But tell the American people what you think about him, based upon your experience. Before they vote.

Not to sell books.
No problem there. he never came out and said it directly but i believe he made his opinion of trump very

clear.https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/16/politics ... index.html

If he told his friends I'm certain he knew the word would get out.
Which is why I'd have preferred that he tell it straight to the American people, take the hard questions, answer them straightforwardly. My hunch is that he could handle more than softballs... ;)
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old salt wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:12 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:51 am Or, there really isn't conflict. I think that was the case with Kelly in the instance of the policy to separate parents and children at the border. If I recall correctly, he made statements at the time denying there was such a policy, statements which were later proven to be flat untrue.

But we don't actually know enough about what went down when Kelly was CoS to really have the full story, so I'm willing to make some positive assumptions about that period. But after he left, knowing what he knew, and watching the further actions of Trump, an act of "integrity", in service of his country, not the man, would have been to have spoken up. It would have mattered. It would now as well.
It was AG Sessions policy via his WH protege S Miller. It blindsided CoS Kelly & the new DHS.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na- ... story.html
https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... ion-policy
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nation ... story.html

There were numerous reported shouting matches between Trump & Kelly, on several issues.
But did Kelly actually disagree with the policy?...I seem to recall early denials that there was even such a policy, despite our later learning of the memo far earlier.

Again, I'd be very interested in what actually went down, where he objected (or had shouting matches) and most importantly his view of Trump's fitness for the position. But not to sell books. I have no issue with folks making a buck selling books, but there's a time when country over self is what really matters. Step up now, General.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:54 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:12 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:51 am Or, there really isn't conflict. I think that was the case with Kelly in the instance of the policy to separate parents and children at the border. If I recall correctly, he made statements at the time denying there was such a policy, statements which were later proven to be flat untrue.

But we don't actually know enough about what went down when Kelly was CoS to really have the full story, so I'm willing to make some positive assumptions about that period. But after he left, knowing what he knew, and watching the further actions of Trump, an act of "integrity", in service of his country, not the man, would have been to have spoken up. It would have mattered. It would now as well.
It was AG Sessions policy via his WH protege S Miller. It blindsided CoS Kelly & the new DHS.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na- ... story.html
https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... ion-policy
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nation ... story.html

There were numerous reported shouting matches between Trump & Kelly, on several issues.
But did Kelly actually disagree with the policy?...I seem to recall early denials that there was even such a policy, despite our later learning of the memo far earlier.

Again, I'd be very interested in what actually went down, where he objected (or had shouting matches) and most importantly his view of Trump's fitness for the position. But not to sell books. I have no issue with folks making a buck selling books, but there's a time when country over self is what really matters. Step up now, General.
The early denials were because CoS Kelly & DHS were blindsided. Sessions just did it & secured Trump's approval via S Miller.
Kelly & DHS recommended against it but couldn't block it.
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old salt wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:44 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:28 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:12 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:51 am Or, there really isn't conflict. I think that was the case with Kelly in the instance of the policy to separate parents and children at the border. If I recall correctly, he made statements at the time denying there was such a policy, statements which were later proven to be flat untrue.

But we don't actually know enough about what went down when Kelly was CoS to really have the full story, so I'm willing to make some positive assumptions about that period. But after he left, knowing what he knew, and watching the further actions of Trump, an act of "integrity", in service of his country, not the man, would have been to have spoken up. It would have mattered. It would now as well.
It was AG Sessions policy via his WH protege S Miller. It blindsided CoS Kelly & the new DHS.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na- ... story.html
https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... ion-policy
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nation ... story.html

There were numerous reported shouting matches between Trump & Kelly, on several issues.
Who reported that to the press?
Ask NBC.
https://grabien.com/story.php?id=132937
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old salt wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:59 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:54 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:12 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:51 am Or, there really isn't conflict. I think that was the case with Kelly in the instance of the policy to separate parents and children at the border. If I recall correctly, he made statements at the time denying there was such a policy, statements which were later proven to be flat untrue.

But we don't actually know enough about what went down when Kelly was CoS to really have the full story, so I'm willing to make some positive assumptions about that period. But after he left, knowing what he knew, and watching the further actions of Trump, an act of "integrity", in service of his country, not the man, would have been to have spoken up. It would have mattered. It would now as well.
It was AG Sessions policy via his WH protege S Miller. It blindsided CoS Kelly & the new DHS.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na- ... story.html
https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... ion-policy
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nation ... story.html

There were numerous reported shouting matches between Trump & Kelly, on several issues.
But did Kelly actually disagree with the policy?...I seem to recall early denials that there was even such a policy, despite our later learning of the memo far earlier.

Again, I'd be very interested in what actually went down, where he objected (or had shouting matches) and most importantly his view of Trump's fitness for the position. But not to sell books. I have no issue with folks making a buck selling books, but there's a time when country over self is what really matters. Step up now, General.
The early denials were because CoS Kelly & DHS were blindsided. Sessions just did it & secured Trump's approval via S Miller.
Kelly & DHS recommended against it but couldn't block it.
And we know that because Kelly himself has told us or better yet told Congress under oath?

Or is that just speculating based on 'anonymous sources'?
Not saying it's incorrect, but would it not be helpful to hear from the horses' mouth?

And why the denial if the denial was untrue? "Integrity"??
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:05 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:59 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:54 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:12 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:51 am Or, there really isn't conflict. I think that was the case with Kelly in the instance of the policy to separate parents and children at the border. If I recall correctly, he made statements at the time denying there was such a policy, statements which were later proven to be flat untrue.

But we don't actually know enough about what went down when Kelly was CoS to really have the full story, so I'm willing to make some positive assumptions about that period. But after he left, knowing what he knew, and watching the further actions of Trump, an act of "integrity", in service of his country, not the man, would have been to have spoken up. It would have mattered. It would now as well.
It was AG Sessions policy via his WH protege S Miller. It blindsided CoS Kelly & the new DHS.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na- ... story.html
https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... ion-policy
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nation ... story.html

There were numerous reported shouting matches between Trump & Kelly, on several issues.
But did Kelly actually disagree with the policy?...I seem to recall early denials that there was even such a policy, despite our later learning of the memo far earlier.

Again, I'd be very interested in what actually went down, where he objected (or had shouting matches) and most importantly his view of Trump's fitness for the position. But not to sell books. I have no issue with folks making a buck selling books, but there's a time when country over self is what really matters. Step up now, General.
The early denials were because CoS Kelly & DHS were blindsided. Sessions just did it & secured Trump's approval via S Miller.
Kelly & DHS recommended against it but couldn't block it.
And we know that because Kelly himself has told us or better yet told Congress under oath?

Or is that just speculating based on 'anonymous sources'?
Not saying it's incorrect, but would it not be helpful to hear from the horses' mouth?

And why the denial if the denial was untrue? "Integrity"??
You can’t believe anything from an anonymous source.....remember?
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DocBarrister wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:08 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:03 pm
smoova wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:55 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:09 pm Up until last week, I had never read Trump’s twitter feed.....it was mind boggling. I have decided to take a look and see what craziness is posted every few days.....the fact that we have grown ups that are devoted to that guy is unbelievable....I can’t believe how far people in this country have fallen...it’s staggering.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/sta ... 08608?s=21
I converted two 2016 Trump voters to the Anyone-But-Trump camp by simply challenging them to read every one of Trump's tweets feed for 7 days. One made it 48 hours before disavowing the President, but the other lasted almost 6 days. The three other Trump fans to whom I issued the same challenge refused to even read one of his tweets, which was delicious.
I don’t follow politicians or root for them like a sports fan and read their twitter feeds.....However, if anyone tells me about a politician acting a fool on Twitter, I will take a look. If it’s someone that would ever show up on my ballot, I won’t vote for them.
The malignant loon responsible for the garbage on the Trump Twitter feed controls the most powerful military force in human history and commands enough nuclear weapons to destroy all human life on Earth.

Trump’s supporters here should contemplate that and the recklessness of their support for him.

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