Orange Duce

[Brooklyn]

a special note to tRUMP:





https://i.imgur.com/0hmV8gN.gif

[seacoaster]

Interesting look at one numerous subset of the electorate:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... l-tsunami/

"....

But much of the Trump 2020 phenomenon can be explained by a far simpler way of looking at the electorate: There are White evangelical Christians — and there is everybody else.

White evangelicals are only 15 percent of the population, but their share of the electorate was 28 percent, according to Edison Research exit polling, and 23 percent, according to the Associated Press version. Though exit polls are imprecise, it seems clear that White evangelicals maintained the roughly 26 percent proportion of the electorate they’ve occupied since 2008, even though their proportion of the population has steadily shrunk from 21 percent in 2008.

This means White evangelicals turned out in mind-boggling numbers. Because they maintained their roughly 80 percent support for Republicans (76 percent and 81 percent in the two exit polls) of recent years, it also means some 40 percent of Trump voters came from a group that is only 15 percent of America.

White evangelicals have, in effect, skewed the electorate by masking the rise of a young, multiracial and largely secular voting population. The White evangelicals’ overperformance also shows, unfortunately, why the racist appeal Trump made in this campaign was effective. White evangelicals were fired up like no other group by Trump’s encouragement of white supremacy.

A Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary graduate who now runs the Public Religion Research Institute, Robert P. Jones, argues that Trump inspired White Christians, “not despite, but through appeals to white supremacy,” attracting them not because of economics or morality, “but rather that he evoked powerful fears about the loss of White Christian dominance.”

The Institute’s American Values Survey from September found overwhelming majorities of White evangelical Protestants saying that police killings of African Americans were “isolated incidents,” and that Confederate flags and monuments are symbols of Southern pride rather than racism. (Smaller majorities of White mainline Protestants and Catholics felt the same way.) Majorities of White evangelicals also perceived discrimination against Christians and Whites, and rejected the idea that slavery and longtime discrimination make it difficult for Black Americans to succeed.

Such findings aren’t surprising. White evangelicals abandoned the Democratic Party after the Voting Rights Act of the 1960s. They became an active political force in the early 1970s in large part to defend the ban on interracial dating at Bob Jones University (they didn’t embrace abortion as an issue until 1979). The Republicans’ Southern strategy stoked White resentment for decades but never as overtly as Trump did. White evangelicals responded passionately: Pre-election, 90 percent said they were certain to vote, and nearly half of those voting for Trump said virtually nothing he could do would shake their approval. There was little evidence of differences among White evangelicals by gender, generation or education.

They are, as a group, dying out (median age in the late 50s), and their views are hardly recognizable to many other Americans. Majorities of White evangelical Protestants don’t see the pandemic as a critical issue (they’re less likely than others to wear masks), believe society has become too “soft and feminine," oppose same-sex marriage, think Trump was called by God to lead and don’t believe he encouraged white supremacist groups.

White evangelicals have become, in essence, an offshore island, one whose inhabitants are slowly but steadily distancing themselves from the American mainland. The fading Island of White Evangelica will, eventually, lose its influence over America. In the meantime, its existence points to an unfortunate, larger reality. There is vanishingly little that Democrats (or Republicans, for that matter) can do to persuade voters to switch sides, because race, and views on race, are the most important factors determining how people vote. Add to the White evangelicals’ turnout the votes of the smaller proportions of White mainline Protestants and Catholics with high levels of racial resentment, as defined by the American Values Survey, and you’ve accounted for the bulk of Trump’s coalition.

I was startled this week when, during a conversation with a prominent figure in Democratic circles, he blurted out to me: “People who want to live in a white supremacist society vote Republican. Those who don’t vote Democrat.” That’s hyperbolic, of course. Democrats are frustrated that four years of chaos and calamity and herculean efforts and expenditures by Democrats did so little to dent Trump’s share of the vote.

But his exaggeration contains a grain of truth. Americans are deeply, and for the moment immutably, divided by whether or not they’re nostalgic for what had long been a White-dominated country. Trump’s better-than-expected showing, particularly among White evangelicals, merely shows that he turned out more of the nostalgic."

[Typical Lax Dad]

Interesting look at one numerous subset of the electorate:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... l-tsunami/

"....

But much of the Trump 2020 phenomenon can be explained by a far simpler way of looking at the electorate: There are White evangelical Christians — and there is everybody else.

White evangelicals are only 15 percent of the population, but their share of the electorate was 28 percent, according to Edison Research exit polling, and 23 percent, according to the Associated Press version. Though exit polls are imprecise, it seems clear that White evangelicals maintained the roughly 26 percent proportion of the electorate they’ve occupied since 2008, even though their proportion of the population has steadily shrunk from 21 percent in 2008.

This means White evangelicals turned out in mind-boggling numbers. Because they maintained their roughly 80 percent support for Republicans (76 percent and 81 percent in the two exit polls) of recent years, it also means some 40 percent of Trump voters came from a group that is only 15 percent of America.

White evangelicals have, in effect, skewed the electorate by masking the rise of a young, multiracial and largely secular voting population. The White evangelicals’ overperformance also shows, unfortunately, why the racist appeal Trump made in this campaign was effective. White evangelicals were fired up like no other group by Trump’s encouragement of white supremacy.

A Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary graduate who now runs the Public Religion Research Institute, Robert P. Jones, argues that Trump inspired White Christians, “not despite, but through appeals to white supremacy,” attracting them not because of economics or morality, “but rather that he evoked powerful fears about the loss of White Christian dominance.”

The Institute’s American Values Survey from September found overwhelming majorities of White evangelical Protestants saying that police killings of African Americans were “isolated incidents,” and that Confederate flags and monuments are symbols of Southern pride rather than racism. (Smaller majorities of White mainline Protestants and Catholics felt the same way.) Majorities of White evangelicals also perceived discrimination against Christians and Whites, and rejected the idea that slavery and longtime discrimination make it difficult for Black Americans to succeed.

Such findings aren’t surprising. White evangelicals abandoned the Democratic Party after the Voting Rights Act of the 1960s. They became an active political force in the early 1970s in large part to defend the ban on interracial dating at Bob Jones University (they didn’t embrace abortion as an issue until 1979). The Republicans’ Southern strategy stoked White resentment for decades but never as overtly as Trump did. White evangelicals responded passionately: Pre-election, 90 percent said they were certain to vote, and nearly half of those voting for Trump said virtually nothing he could do would shake their approval. There was little evidence of differences among White evangelicals by gender, generation or education.

They are, as a group, dying out (median age in the late 50s), and their views are hardly recognizable to many other Americans. Majorities of White evangelical Protestants don’t see the pandemic as a critical issue (they’re less likely than others to wear masks), believe society has become too “soft and feminine," oppose same-sex marriage, think Trump was called by God to lead and don’t believe he encouraged white supremacist groups.

White evangelicals have become, in essence, an offshore island, one whose inhabitants are slowly but steadily distancing themselves from the American mainland. The fading Island of White Evangelica will, eventually, lose its influence over America. In the meantime, its existence points to an unfortunate, larger reality. There is vanishingly little that Democrats (or Republicans, for that matter) can do to persuade voters to switch sides, because race, and views on race, are the most important factors determining how people vote. Add to the White evangelicals’ turnout the votes of the smaller proportions of White mainline Protestants and Catholics with high levels of racial resentment, as defined by the American Values Survey, and you’ve accounted for the bulk of Trump’s coalition.

I was startled this week when, during a conversation with a prominent figure in Democratic circles, he blurted out to me: “People who want to live in a white supremacist society vote Republican. Those who don’t vote Democrat.” That’s hyperbolic, of course. Democrats are frustrated that four years of chaos and calamity and herculean efforts and expenditures by Democrats did so little to dent Trump’s share of the vote.

But his exaggeration contains a grain of truth. Americans are deeply, and for the moment immutably, divided by whether or not they’re nostalgic for what had long been a White-dominated country. Trump’s better-than-expected showing, particularly among White evangelicals, merely shows that he turned out more of the nostalgic."

VDH will disagree.

Trump - Duke 2024!!

MAGA BY VFTNT

[seacoaster]

Why do we call these folks low information voters? I don't get it.

https://twitter.com/HadleySheley/status ... 2582948874

[Typical Lax Dad]

Why do we call these folks low information voters? I don't get it.

https://twitter.com/HadleySheley/status ... 2582948874

I wonder what those folks do for a living.

[youthathletics]

Why do we call these folks low information voters? I don't get it.

https://twitter.com/HadleySheley/status ... 2582948874

I wonder what those folks do for a living.

Work....that's why its on a weekend.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Why do we call these folks low information voters? I don't get it.

https://twitter.com/HadleySheley/status ... 2582948874

I wonder what those folks do for a living.

Work....that's why its on a weekend.

I wonder doing what. Probably school teachers.

[Brooklyn]

traitor tRUMP and the radical extremists who love and support him:






https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElRS33TX0AA ... name=large

[Typical Lax Dad]

traitor tRUMP and the radical extremists who love and support him:






https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElRS33TX0AA ... name=large

Fantastic! Deplorables!!

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/215008 ... reality-tv

[Brooklyn]

traitor tRUMP and the radical extremists who love and support him:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElRS33TX0AA ... name=large

Fantastic! Deplorables!!

It's the most recent Republican convention. Note how there are no masks - thus, the Pukies are spreading hate and covid contagion.

[Brooklyn]

rePUKEblican Dear Leader:

[dislaxxic]

Trump Org. may be forced to sell properties to retire debt as legal probes spook lenders: report

According to Jeffrey Engel, a presidential historian at Southern Methodist University, "The fact that Trump thought he could run for president and be president with potential clear irregularities in his financial background and not be discovered, that's the most surprising part to me. It reinforces that he did not fully appreciate what it meant to be president."

Also dogging the family are the challenges of expanding internationally with the report stating, "The Trump Organization recently lost a series of legal battles over the exclusive use of the Trump name in the European Union's 27 countries. The continuing trademark challenges could complicate the Trump Organization's ability to use the Trump brand across a variety of business areas, including real-estate development, gambling, golf equipment and alcohol."

..

[Matnum PI]

From another thread but better placed here...

What's odd to me about this thread and in general is that there are people who sincerely believe that Trump's lying is no different than other politicians, including Joe Biden. That Trump's self-centeredness, Trump's corruption, etc. Trump is truly unique, pre-presidency and otherwise.

This is the Joe Biden thread.

The election is over.

This is precisely my point. This is the Biden thread, the election is over, as if this election is like any other yet... Trump is still POTUS and *he won't concede that he lost*. This is so extreme, so unlike any president in our history, so destructive, and, still, Trump is treated like he's just another president. I don't get it...

[ardilla secreta]

Why do we call these folks low information voters? I don't get it.

https://twitter.com/HadleySheley/status ... 2582948874

I wonder what those folks do for a living.

Work....that's why its on a weekend.

Hard workin Americans with a workplace close to their van down by the river.

[a fan]

Pity this won't actually happen, but kudos to Trump if he tries.....


https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/16/politics ... index.html

[CU77]

Paging o.s.: is this drawdown a good idea or not?

[Kismet]

Paging o.s.: is this drawdown a good idea or not?

The Afghan/US negotiators cannot be happy with this. Ditto for the Pentagon and JCS. The Taliban are just going to wait for the withdrawal and then crush the Afghans like an eggshell after we depart. Why negotiate now?

Would love to hear OS comment on telling the bad guys what we are going to do before we actually do it. If Obama did this, he'd hate it. Now that it's DOPUS, he will likely be thrilled.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Paging o.s.: is this drawdown a good idea or not?

The Afghan/US negotiators cannot be happy with this. Ditto for the Pentagon and JCS. The Taliban are just going to wait for the withdrawal and then crush the Afghans like an eggshell after we depart. Why negotiate now?

Would love to hear OS comment on telling the bad guys what we are going to do before we actually do it. If Obama did this, he'd hate it. Now that it's DOPUS, he will likely be thrilled.

Let’s see Old Salt tell us what Trump was really thinking....BTW, you ever see the movie Kismet?

[Brooklyn]

delusional reich wing hero tRUMP:






Just leave you crybaby!