2020 Elections - Trump FIRED

[old salt]

Your article shows the folly of accusing people of good will (who you don't know) of being racist because they don't kowtow to your political views. It's a big part of why 71M voted for Trump. The stunned moderate Dems in the House are starting to get it. AOC & her Squad thought it was time to "confront them over their harmful politics and cloaked bigotry." Now she's whining & considering another line of work. Honest political differences are not "cloaked bigotry."

Many people are saying that it is a thoughtful look at why, exactly, so many people would vote for a man of this chararacter who honestly HAS no discernable "policy" beyond things like "build a wall", kill ObamaCare, "socialism bad", China treats us unfairly, keep burning fossil fuel, pack the courts with as many rightwing judges as possible. What else is there, seriously? Certainly nothing "military"-leaning aside from the usual "i built up the biggest military ever."

You yourself refuse to identify the "policies" you think the man is supported on in such a broad way. I think you are displaying a lot of the tendencies that the author of the piece i posted writes about. It's uncomfortable for you to talk about whatever "policy" you think got this kind of vote out for Donald Trump. This conversation most often devolves into obfuscation about "we're NOT all racist bigoted know-nothings. Your resentment comes thru as pure trolling.

It happened though, so i for one want to know why. 70 million votes is a lot of votes. The answer seems elusive and this article talked about an issue bubbling under the surface...seeking to answer the question of that unusual vote count.

Put another way...if you take out all the racist vote, the bigoted misogynist vote, and the "keep your derned hands off my medicare" anti-socialism vote, how many are left over, out of that 70 million?

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This is all about grievance. Cry babies whining and wanting to blame someone else for their problems. The culture war. Children throwing a temper tantrum because they can't get their way. Make no mistake they have some (only some, a few legitimate grievances) but are going about trying to address them the wrong way.

Old Salt called a race war before anyone I had come across. It stuck with me be because I had never considered it at all....it was like “game on”. Sad and small.

Deny reality if you choose. All the windows aren't boarded up because of peaceful protests. The looting's ok, the merchants are insured. The looters need income. It's reparations. Don't drive near that Wendy's in Atlanta, you might get shot. They're all just peaceful protesters.
You think it didn't influence voters.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Your article shows the folly of accusing people of good will (who you don't know) of being racist because they don't kowtow to your political views. It's a big part of why 71M voted for Trump. The stunned moderate Dems in the House are starting to get it. AOC & her Squad thought it was time to "confront them over their harmful politics and cloaked bigotry." Now she's whining & considering another line of work. Honest political differences are not "cloaked bigotry."

Many people are saying that it is a thoughtful look at why, exactly, so many people would vote for a man of this chararacter who honestly HAS no discernable "policy" beyond things like "build a wall", kill ObamaCare, "socialism bad", China treats us unfairly, keep burning fossil fuel, pack the courts with as many rightwing judges as possible. What else is there, seriously? Certainly nothing "military"-leaning aside from the usual "i built up the biggest military ever."

You yourself refuse to identify the "policies" you think the man is supported on in such a broad way. I think you are displaying a lot of the tendencies that the author of the piece i posted writes about. It's uncomfortable for you to talk about whatever "policy" you think got this kind of vote out for Donald Trump. This conversation most often devolves into obfuscation about "we're NOT all racist bigoted know-nothings. Your resentment comes thru as pure trolling.

It happened though, so i for one want to know why. 70 million votes is a lot of votes. The answer seems elusive and this article talked about an issue bubbling under the surface...seeking to answer the question of that unusual vote count.

Put another way...if you take out all the racist vote, the bigoted misogynist vote, and the "keep your derned hands off my medicare" anti-socialism vote, how many are left over, out of that 70 million?

..

This is all about grievance. Cry babies whining and wanting to blame someone else for their problems. The culture war. Children throwing a temper tantrum because they can't get their way. Make no mistake they have some (only some, a few legitimate grievances) but are going about trying to address them the wrong way.

Old Salt called a race war before anyone I had come across. It stuck with me be because I had never considered it at all....it was like “game on”. Sad and small.

Deny reality if you choose. All the windows aren't boarded up because of peaceful protests. The looting's ok, the merchants are insured. The looters need income. It's reparations. Don't drive near that Wendy's in Atlanta, you might get shot. They're all just peaceful protesters.
You think it didn't influence voters.

You love you some reparations. You are about the only person I have run across personally that mentions it. You must know ‘Tron.

Helter Skelter

YUTM

[a fan]

Deny reality if you choose. All the windows aren't boarded up because of peaceful protests. The looting's ok, the merchants are insured. The looters need income. It's reparations. Don't drive near that Wendy's in Atlanta, you might get shot. They're all just peaceful protesters.
You think it didn't influence voters.

Your side was no better. You understand that, right? That millions more people were horrified by Trump and his enablers....and voted because of it?

[CU88]

This is EPIC!


Mary Louise Kelly @NPRKelly
Might Pompeo point us to a state on the map where there's evidence of widespread voter fraud?

Quote Tweet
Josh Lederman@JoshNBCNews
NEW: Pompeo asked whether the State Department will cooperate with the Biden transition, says:

"There will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration"

2:04 PM · Nov 10, 2020

[old salt]

Deny reality if you choose. All the windows aren't boarded up because of peaceful protests. The looting's ok, the merchants are insured. The looters need income. It's reparations. Don't drive near that Wendy's in Atlanta, you might get shot. They're all just peaceful protesters.
You think it didn't influence voters.

Your side was no better. You understand that, right? That millions more people were horrified by Trump and his enablers....and voted because of it?

What's wrong with being afraid of rioters in your streets, or being influenced by it ?
How many Dems are still saying defund the police ?

[old salt]

This HAS to be a misprint my Republican friends.

FoxNews reporting: Alaska Republican Sen. Dan Sullivan wins reelection, giving GOP 50 seats in Senate

This can't be!! What happened to all the claims of voter fraud, fellas? Did you all "forget" to claim that this R Senate win is fraudulent?


This is so stupid.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/alaska ... -reelected

Wait a second, last night James Carville said his guy still had a chance in AK.

John James hasn't conceded in MI yet.
In GA, Perdue could still squeak back above 50% & avoid a runoff.
The recounts in GA & WI are mandated by state law.

[a fan]

Deny reality if you choose. All the windows aren't boarded up because of peaceful protests. The looting's ok, the merchants are insured. The looters need income. It's reparations. Don't drive near that Wendy's in Atlanta, you might get shot. They're all just peaceful protesters.
You think it didn't influence voters.

Your side was no better. You understand that, right? That millions more people were horrified by Trump and his enablers....and voted because of it?

What's wrong with being afraid of rioters in your streets, or being influenced by it ?

Nothing. Nothing whatsoever. Assuming, of course, it's YOUR streets...and not FoxNation making it seem like America burnt to the ground. But that's beside the point here.



But what's wrong with black people being more worried about getting killed by the police than being helped by them?

I can do this for days. You can't possibly think that your team is without sin, OS. I can list things TeamTrump did that influenced voters to the point where MILLIONS voted to get them out of their lives all day long.

And I have yet to meet one single Biden fan. Not one. That doesn't mean that there aren't any....but it surely speaks to the behavior of your team.

[old salt]

Old Salt called a race war before anyone I had come across. It stuck with me be because I had never considered it at all....it was like “game on”. Sad and small.

Deny reality if you choose. All the windows aren't boarded up because of peaceful protests. The looting's ok, the merchants are insured. The looters need income. It's reparations. Don't drive near that Wendy's in Atlanta, you might get shot. They're all just peaceful protesters.
You think it didn't influence voters.

You love you some reparations. You are about the only person I have run across personally that mentions it. You must know ‘Tron.

Helter Skelter

YUTM

Where were you in 1967-68 ?

[Typical Lax Dad]

Old Salt called a race war before anyone I had come across. It stuck with me be because I had never considered it at all....it was like “game on”. Sad and small.

Deny reality if you choose. All the windows aren't boarded up because of peaceful protests. The looting's ok, the merchants are insured. The looters need income. It's reparations. Don't drive near that Wendy's in Atlanta, you might get shot. They're all just peaceful protesters.
You think it didn't influence voters.

You love you some reparations. You are about the only person I have run across personally that mentions it. You must know ‘Tron.

Helter Skelter

YUTM

Where were you in 1967-68 ?

Need to check my calendar. Where were you?

[a fan]

This HAS to be a misprint my Republican friends.

FoxNews reporting: Alaska Republican Sen. Dan Sullivan wins reelection, giving GOP 50 seats in Senate

This can't be!! What happened to all the claims of voter fraud, fellas? Did you all "forget" to claim that this R Senate win is fraudulent?


This is so stupid.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/alaska ... -reelected

Wait a second, last night James Carville said his guy still had a chance in AK.

John James hasn't conceded in MI yet.
In GA, Perdue could still squeak back above 50% & avoid a runoff.
The recounts in GA & WI are mandated by state law.

Keep playing dumb. No one is complaining about recounts, or any other such thing. It's the baseless accusations of fraud that ONLY apply to Trump in battleground States that he lost. Gee, what a coincidence that all the States Trump won are perfectly fine.

TrumpNation isn't smart enough to make up a story that makes any reasonable sense. Did you see the interview with the BBC reporter where the idiot GOP candidate made her fraud claims? The BBC reporter is basically telling her that this is the dumbest thing she's ever heard.

Good thing we can't travel. The world thinks we're idiots. And they're not wrong. I have owned dogs that are smarter than these people making these claims. So have you.

[old salt]

Deny reality if you choose. All the windows aren't boarded up because of peaceful protests. The looting's ok, the merchants are insured. The looters need income. It's reparations. Don't drive near that Wendy's in Atlanta, you might get shot. They're all just peaceful protesters.
You think it didn't influence voters.

Your side was no better. You understand that, right? That millions more people were horrified by Trump and his enablers....and voted because of it?

What's wrong with being afraid of rioters in your streets, or being influenced by it ?

Nothing. Nothing whatsoever. Assuming, of course, it's YOUR streets...and not FoxNation making it seem like America burnt to the ground. But that's beside the point here.

But what's wrong with black people being more worried about getting killed by the police than being helped by them?

I can do this for days. You can't possibly think that your team is without sin, OS. I can list things TeamTrump did that influenced voters to the point where MILLIONS voted to get them out of their lives all day long.

And I have yet to meet one single Biden fan. Not one. That doesn't mean that there aren't any....but it surely speaks to the behavior of your team.

I'm not saying "my side is without sin" (whatever that means, in your nuance free universe).
It does not justify the rioting, looting, burning out or cities, or random murders in retribution.
...or accepting, enabling or making excuses for them.
Look at how the Dems are now distancing themselves from defunding the police.

[old salt]

This HAS to be a misprint my Republican friends.

FoxNews reporting: Alaska Republican Sen. Dan Sullivan wins reelection, giving GOP 50 seats in Senate

This can't be!! What happened to all the claims of voter fraud, fellas? Did you all "forget" to claim that this R Senate win is fraudulent?


This is so stupid.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/alaska ... -reelected

Wait a second, last night James Carville said his guy still had a chance in AK.

John James hasn't conceded in MI yet.
In GA, Perdue could still squeak back above 50% & avoid a runoff.
The recounts in GA & WI are mandated by state law.

Keep playing dumb. No one is complaining about recounts, or any other such thing. It's the baseless accusations of fraud that ONLY apply to Trump in battleground States that he lost. Gee, what a coincidence that all the States Trump won are perfectly fine.

TrumpNation isn't smart enough to make up a story that makes any reasonable sense. Did you see the interview with the BBC reporter where the idiot GOP candidate made her fraud claims? The BBC reporter is basically telling her that this is the dumbest thing she's ever heard.

Good thing we can't travel. The world thinks we're idiots. And they're not wrong. I have owned dogs that are smarter than these people making these claims. So have you.

Calm down. The results haven't even been certified yet. Audits, recounts & legal challenges are routine. It's all transparent, wide open for the BBC & the rest of the world to witness. The media does not certify the results. This was a massive change to our election process. Let's do a little Quality Assurance auditing & reduce any opportunity for fraud in future elections. States still have to decide how they will do future elections. Don't waste this opportunity.

[a fan]

I'm not saying "my side is without sin" (whatever that means, in your nuance free universe).

I see. So you're the only one who gets to make sweeping generalizations, and pretend that the *ssholes in Antifa are the same thing as Democrats.

It does not justify the rioting, looting, burning out or cities, or random murders in retribution.
...or accepting, enabling or making excuses for them.

Yeah, but you're holding the Dems accountable for the actions of fringe elements.

This mean that YOU are accountable for neo-Nazis that support Trump?

Of course not. So stop with this stuff.

Look at how the Dems are now distancing themselves from defunding the police.

See? Now you're stuck. You just told me that the Dems support and enable fringe elements.

Clearly not. If they did, they'd embrace the phrase Defund the Police.

Its an election year, so the right has been working 24/7 to conflate the Dems with Antifa and arsonist.

And the left has been working 24/7 to conflate Republicans with white power ***holes.

Isn't it possible that you're both acting like idiots, and lying your *sses off?

[Typical Lax Dad]

I'm not saying "my side is without sin" (whatever that means, in your nuance free universe).

I see. So you're the only one who gets to make sweeping generalizations, and pretend that the *ssholes in Antifa are the same thing as Democrats.

It does not justify the rioting, looting, burning out or cities, or random murders in retribution.
...or accepting, enabling or making excuses for them.

Yeah, but you're holding the Dems accountable for the actions of fringe elements.

This mean that YOU are accountable for neo-Nazis that support Trump?

Of course not. So stop with this stuff.

Look at how the Dems are now distancing themselves from defunding the police.

See? Now you're stuck. You just told me that the Dems support and enable fringe elements.

Clearly not. If they did, they'd embrace the phrase Defund the Police.

Its an election year, so the right has been working 24/7 to conflate the Dems with Antifa and arsonist.

And the left has been working 24/7 to conflate Republicans with white power ***holes.

Isn't it possible that you're both acting like idiots, and lying your *sses off?

And black people. Thousands of pictures of black people labeled BLM/ANTIFA. Language isn’t an accident. Old Salt was the intended audience. It was effective.

[njbill]

Sure, let’s use this as an opportunity to check how the new mail in system worked. No problem with that.

But we can do two things at the same time. We can proceed with the transition to the Biden administration since he has clearly won the election while simultaneously checking, studying, tweaking, etc. the system used this election season.

Trump’s refusal to proceed with the transition and the lemming-like behavior of his sycophants is as laughable as it is ridiculous.

Did Mike Pompeo make his statement yesterday from the Four Seasons landscaping company? Did he go into the sex shop afterwards?

Biden is handling this perfectly. He is nonplussed by the shenanigans. He knows how this will end as we all do.

Trump is just a rat in the corner.

[old salt]

I'm not saying "my side is without sin" (whatever that means, in your nuance free universe).

I see. So you're the only one who gets to make sweeping generalizations, and pretend that the *ssholes in Antifa are the same thing as Democrats.

It does not justify the rioting, looting, burning out or cities, or random murders in retribution.
...or accepting, enabling or making excuses for them.

Yeah, but you're holding the Dems accountable for the actions of fringe elements.

This mean that YOU are accountable for neo-Nazis that support Trump?

Of course not. So stop with this stuff.

Look at how the Dems are now distancing themselves from defunding the police.

See? Now you're stuck. You just told me that the Dems support and enable fringe elements.

Clearly not. If they did, they'd embrace the phrase Defund the Police.

Its an election year, so the right has been working 24/7 to conflate the Dems with Antifa and arsonist.

And the left has been working 24/7 to conflate Republicans with white power ***holes.

Isn't it possible that you're both acting like idiots, and lying your *sses off?

Biden won. No riots. Where's Antifa ? Why all the plywood ? Have the Proud Boys mobilized ?

[a fan]

Calm down. The results haven't even been certified yet. Audits, recounts & legal challenges are routine. It's all transparent, wide open for the BBC & the rest of the world to witness. The media does not certify the results. This was a massive change to our election process. Let's do a little Quality Assurance auditing & reduce any opportunity for fraud in future elections. States still have to decide how they will do future elections. Don't waste this opportunity.

Tell you what: I'll wager a year of my salary, versus one year of your pension, that major changes to how elections are held in any Republican controlled State won't happen. And that you'll hear these same stupid, baseless complaints in the next election that's 2 years away....if the Republicans lose.

Deal?

I have ZERO problem doing a State audit (they already do that, but whatever) after Biden is sworn in. You guys REALLY care? Great. Get off your **ses, and fix the problem. I'm for ANYTHING that will get rid of the tinfoil hats.

But as my wager implies----nothing, and I mean nothing-----will keep Post-Trump Republicans from claiming fraud if their team loses.

I'm sick of these people. I'm embarrassed for them. How many times do these exact same people crow about life not being fair, and mock millenials over "participation trophies"?

Yet here they are, telling us that the elections that Republican candidates won are perfectly fine, but any time a Dem won, we'll, that's fraud.

One last desperate gulp of Stupidity with a capital S from TrumpLand.....

[old salt]

Sure, let’s use this as an opportunity to check how the new mail in system worked. No problem with that.

But we can do two things at the same time. We can proceed with the transition to the Biden administration since he has clearly won the election while simultaneously checking, studying, tweaking, etc. the system used this election season.

Trump’s refusal to proceed with the transition and the lemming-like behavior of his sycophants is as laughable as it is ridiculous.

Did Mike Pompeo make his statement yesterday from the Four Seasons landscaping company? Did he go into the sex shop afterwards?

Biden is handling this perfectly. He is nonplussed by the shenanigans. He knows how this will end as we all do.

Trump is just a rat in the corner.

I agree that Biden is handling this perfectly. His supporters should emulate his sang froid & let this play out.

[MDlaxfan76]

I'm not saying "my side is without sin" (whatever that means, in your nuance free universe).

I see. So you're the only one who gets to make sweeping generalizations, and pretend that the *ssholes in Antifa are the same thing as Democrats.

It does not justify the rioting, looting, burning out or cities, or random murders in retribution.
...or accepting, enabling or making excuses for them.

Yeah, but you're holding the Dems accountable for the actions of fringe elements.

This mean that YOU are accountable for neo-Nazis that support Trump?

Of course not. So stop with this stuff.

Look at how the Dems are now distancing themselves from defunding the police.

See? Now you're stuck. You just told me that the Dems support and enable fringe elements.

Clearly not. If they did, they'd embrace the phrase Defund the Police.

Its an election year, so the right has been working 24/7 to conflate the Dems with Antifa and arsonist.

And the left has been working 24/7 to conflate Republicans with white power ***holes.

Isn't it possible that you're both acting like idiots, and lying your *sses off?

Biden won. No riots. Where's Antifa ? Why all the plywood ? Have the Proud Boys mobilized ?

Did Biden win?
Glad to hear it.

The 'protestors' now are those tough guys Trump talked about, the bikers and the veterans and their 2nd Amendment...

Trump hasn't green-lit violence yet but he sure is stoking the animosity and grievance, the "cheating" them out of Der Leader...which direction it turns is yet to be seen.

[a fan]

Biden won. No riots. Where's Antifa ? Why all the plywood ?

Because Antifa likes to break things. Be happy they don't do what RightWIngNutJobs do, and do things like lynch people, shoot up churches/synagogues, and all sorts of lovely things.....