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kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:13 am Meanwhile, Hillary loses the election, and the left talks about actually changing how America's republic democracy works and eliminating how American votes and elections have been conducted since the country's inception.
Um....you seem to have left out some "tiny" details as to how our elections worked at the country's inception, vs. how they work now, don't you think? ;)


And it's not just Hillary. People are still talking about it. Biden won by more that 4,000,000 votes, and it's still a close call? Really?

Don't worry. As we've been saying, you'll all change your minds about this when Texas flips, putting the Presidency permanently out of your reach. :lol:
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a fan wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:31 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:13 am Meanwhile, Hillary loses the election, and the left talks about actually changing how America's republic democracy works and eliminating how American votes and elections have been conducted since the country's inception.

Biden won by more that 4,000,000 votes, and it's still a close call? Really?
With 145 million total cast yeh 4 million is close. Especially since most of those are prolly illegal
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a fan wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:31 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:13 am Meanwhile, Hillary loses the election, and the left talks about actually changing how America's republic democracy works and eliminating how American votes and elections have been conducted since the country's inception.
Um....you seem to have left out some "tiny" details as to how our elections worked at the country's inception, vs. how they work now, don't you think? ;)


And it's not just Hillary. People are still talking about it. Biden won by more that 4,000,000 votes, and it's still a close call? Really?

Don't worry. As we've been saying, you'll all change your minds about this when Texas flips, putting the Presidency permanently out of your reach. :lol:
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Re: President Elect Biden

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cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:14 am
foreverlax wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:01 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:50 am
ABV 8.3% wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:24 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:11 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:04 am rrr, abv, etc, I'd love to 'move on'.

To the transition.
To a new President.
To a more competent and more honest administration of the powers of federal government.
Maybe even to a reckoning within my party, the GOP.

One step at a time.

Is there a serious friction remaining to doing so?
Well, yeah, the dishonest a-hole in the Oval Office encouraging his 70 million voters (and 80+ million Twitter followers) to resist the outcome of the election, to believe that the electi was stolen, fraudulent, rigged, etc and to exercise their 2nd amendment rights...

Trump goes away, I'm good with letting him go...to jail I hope, but that's another subject.
"Maybe even to a reckoning within my party, the GOP."

Good luck doing that with 70 million plus trump voters. I saw Mitt talking this morning and he sure sounds like someone just dying to run again. You bring up a very interesting point MD, how does your party make peace with 70 million trump voters? If your party can't do so they won't win any elections for a very long time.
Never vote for a guy that IS so stupid, that he includes a segment of is biodoc venality where he irons his shirt while wearing it.........tells SO many things about the guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsC66rWOByA

Name ONE thing that you don't want Biden to implement?
I want Biden to be the biggest advocate for rescue animals this country has ever seen. I think he has already proven his chops in that regard. I'm lovin Joe right now. It has nothing to do with him as a politician. It has everything to do with him as a man that loves dogs and all rescue animals. We need more people like him. i don't give a flying fig about people, I love all animals, our pets don't put conditions on their love. They don't care what political party you belong to, they just want you to love them the way they love you. If you have ever been the rescued parent of an abused or neglected animal as my wife and i have been... you have never in your life known real love. Our rescue girl Roxy sleeps in our bed now every night. She was neglected and abused her entire life. All that was expected of her was to have puppies. Our little girl came to us in May. she had just given birth to 8 puppies in March, the folks that fostered her then brought in 8 more puppies with no mom. Our girl took care of 16 puppies for the 2 months before we adopted her. She never neglected any of them and took care of every one of them as if they were her own. Our Roxy is our hero, we love that girl with all our heart. Maybe more of you should be rescue parents. Joe Biden is my new hero, i love and respect the man for opening up his heart to his dogs. I don't know how he will do as POTUS. He has the compassion for the job that has won me over.
Really glad you have found a new 4 legged chum....mine has been hanging out with me regularly during my daily fly casting practice sessions.
Thank you for your kind words forever, Mr Seacoaster is well aware of my love for my dog. My wife and I were not looking for another dog. she saw Roxy on the Rescue Treasure web page. She was tired of me moping around missing our yellow lab Jenna. If you have never loved a dog or any animal you can't understand what they bring into your life. Every where i go in my house my little Roxy has to be by my side. Unconditional love is an amazing thing. :D
Can I get and AMEN!

(What I love best about dogs....head out for an hour and they respond like it's been a year....unconditional love.)
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Re: President Elect Biden

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a fan wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:11 am
That's the difference between libs and conservatives: the libs have been on to the D's and r's Bullsh*t for years. It's why Hillary lost. They know that both D's and R's are in the bag for the 1%. They're going to hold Biden to account. R voters haven't caught on to the R's game, and likely never will. It's sad watching them fall further and further behind, economically speaking, with each passing decade.


Broke the hammer.

Trumps supporters, at least some, act like Trump really gives a fig about them....he cares about Trump, money and power. He has somehow gotten them to believe he isn't an "east coast, global elitists, .01% POS"...which is exactly what he is.

Biden, has plenty of flaws, which have come out over his decades in DC. I see him as having learned real empathy through his own pain. His length of service is not something I hold against him.

I'll take the bet now, same as the one I've offered on the Clintons....A Trump will be indicted before a Biden.
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Re: President Elect Biden

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6ftstick wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:37 am
a fan wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:31 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:13 am Meanwhile, Hillary loses the election, and the left talks about actually changing how America's republic democracy works and eliminating how American votes and elections have been conducted since the country's inception.

Biden won by more that 4,000,000 votes, and it's still a close call? Really?
With 145 million total cast yeh 4 million is close. Especially since most of those are prolly illegal
I heard 20 million Trump votes were definitely illegal.
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Re: President Elect Biden

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6ftstick wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:37 am
With 145 million total cast yeh 4 million is close. Especially since most of those are prolly illegal
Oh I completely agree with you that all of the votes for Trump were illegally cast.

Happy? ;)
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Re: President Elect Biden

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foreverlax wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:45 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:14 am
foreverlax wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:01 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:50 am
ABV 8.3% wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:24 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:11 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:04 am rrr, abv, etc, I'd love to 'move on'.

To the transition.
To a new President.
To a more competent and more honest administration of the powers of federal government.
Maybe even to a reckoning within my party, the GOP.

One step at a time.

Is there a serious friction remaining to doing so?
Well, yeah, the dishonest a-hole in the Oval Office encouraging his 70 million voters (and 80+ million Twitter followers) to resist the outcome of the election, to believe that the electi was stolen, fraudulent, rigged, etc and to exercise their 2nd amendment rights...

Trump goes away, I'm good with letting him go...to jail I hope, but that's another subject.
"Maybe even to a reckoning within my party, the GOP."

Good luck doing that with 70 million plus trump voters. I saw Mitt talking this morning and he sure sounds like someone just dying to run again. You bring up a very interesting point MD, how does your party make peace with 70 million trump voters? If your party can't do so they won't win any elections for a very long time.
Never vote for a guy that IS so stupid, that he includes a segment of is biodoc venality where he irons his shirt while wearing it.........tells SO many things about the guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsC66rWOByA

Name ONE thing that you don't want Biden to implement?
I want Biden to be the biggest advocate for rescue animals this country has ever seen. I think he has already proven his chops in that regard. I'm lovin Joe right now. It has nothing to do with him as a politician. It has everything to do with him as a man that loves dogs and all rescue animals. We need more people like him. i don't give a flying fig about people, I love all animals, our pets don't put conditions on their love. They don't care what political party you belong to, they just want you to love them the way they love you. If you have ever been the rescued parent of an abused or neglected animal as my wife and i have been... you have never in your life known real love. Our rescue girl Roxy sleeps in our bed now every night. She was neglected and abused her entire life. All that was expected of her was to have puppies. Our little girl came to us in May. she had just given birth to 8 puppies in March, the folks that fostered her then brought in 8 more puppies with no mom. Our girl took care of 16 puppies for the 2 months before we adopted her. She never neglected any of them and took care of every one of them as if they were her own. Our Roxy is our hero, we love that girl with all our heart. Maybe more of you should be rescue parents. Joe Biden is my new hero, i love and respect the man for opening up his heart to his dogs. I don't know how he will do as POTUS. He has the compassion for the job that has won me over.
Really glad you have found a new 4 legged chum....mine has been hanging out with me regularly during my daily fly casting practice sessions.
Thank you for your kind words forever, Mr Seacoaster is well aware of my love for my dog. My wife and I were not looking for another dog. she saw Roxy on the Rescue Treasure web page. She was tired of me moping around missing our yellow lab Jenna. If you have never loved a dog or any animal you can't understand what they bring into your life. Every where i go in my house my little Roxy has to be by my side. Unconditional love is an amazing thing. :D
Can I get and AMEN!

(What I love best about dogs....head out for an hour and they respond like it's been a year....unconditional love.)
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I’ll never forget my fat little Lhasa poo Meara jumping onto the bed, jammed up into my side and stayed there with me until I moved and even then had some freakish empathy I can’t even describe that made things just a little bit better that day.

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Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:58 amI heard 20 million Trump votes were definitely illegal.
Right, and obviously a lot of "illegals" in south Florida definitely got him over the line in that state. Cuban Americans there are "all legal", right Donnie?? :lol:

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Re: Creepy Uncle Joe Biden

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Those Cuban Americans coulda been D. votes.

But who was the genius in the dnc who sent AOC to FL to talk about the glory of socialism?!

:lol:
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a fan wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:04 pm
6ftstick wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:37 am
With 145 million total cast yeh 4 million is close. Especially since most of those are prolly illegal
Oh I completely agree with you that all of the votes for Trump were illegally cast.

Happy? ;)
See that's where you're mistaken.

Most of Trumps votes were cast on something you call ELECTION DAY.

People stood in line at a polling stations proved who they were and were observed acting constitutionally.

Trump won 48 of 50 states on election day voting.

Democrats not so much.
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You lost.
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Re: President Elect Biden

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6ftstick wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:00 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:04 pm
6ftstick wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:37 am
With 145 million total cast yeh 4 million is close. Especially since most of those are prolly illegal
Oh I completely agree with you that all of the votes for Trump were illegally cast.

Happy? ;)
See that's where you're mistaken.

Most of Trumps votes were cast on something you call ELECTION DAY.

People stood in line at a polling stations proved who they were and were observed acting constitutionally.

Trump won 48 of 50 states on election day voting.

Democrats not so much.
:lol: :lol: So explain to me why every single Republican run State allows people to vote remotely, 6foot?

You can't explain that. So as usual, you''re going to exit the conversation, because you know doggone well this is a fake issue. All you care about is winning. If remote voting led to R wins? Oh, you'd be on here telling us how important mail in voting is. You're fooling exactly no one here.

BTW, I just LOVE that you want to keep military service members that are serving overseas from voting, because they can't do it in person as you are demanding. I'm sure they'll be thrilled to hear this.
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Re: President Elect Biden

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a fan wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:20 pm
6ftstick wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:00 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:04 pm
6ftstick wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:37 am
With 145 million total cast yeh 4 million is close. Especially since most of those are prolly illegal
Oh I completely agree with you that all of the votes for Trump were illegally cast.

Happy? ;)
See that's where you're mistaken.

Most of Trumps votes were cast on something you call ELECTION DAY.

People stood in line at a polling stations proved who they were and were observed acting constitutionally.

Trump won 48 of 50 states on election day voting.

Democrats not so much.
:lol: :lol: So explain to me why every single Republican run State allows people to vote remotely, 6foot?

You can't explain that. So as usual, you''re going to exit the conversation, because you know doggone well this is a fake issue. All you care about is winning. If remote voting led to R wins? Oh, you'd be on here telling us how important mail in voting is. You're fooling exactly no one here.

BTW, I just LOVE that you want to keep military service members that are serving overseas from voting, because they can't do it in person as you are demanding. I'm sure they'll be thrilled to hear this.
Those states have experience with remote voting.

Military votes HAVE YET TO BE COUNTED> So democrats don't want them counted.

Pennsylvania—not so much.
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6ftstick wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:00 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:04 pm
6ftstick wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:37 am
With 145 million total cast yeh 4 million is close. Especially since most of those are prolly illegal
Oh I completely agree with you that all of the votes for Trump were illegally cast.

Happy? ;)
See that's where you're mistaken.

Most of Trumps votes were cast on something you call ELECTION DAY.

People stood in line at a polling stations proved who they were and were observed acting constitutionally.

Trump won 48 of 50 states on election day voting.

Democrats not so much.
When I need to do important paperwork -- like, you know, filling out deposit slips for multiple locations or answering long questionnaires -- I like to do it from my desk in my office. Why? Because I am more comfortable that I check the right boxes while in a familiar location rather than standing in an unfamiliar room being stewarded by people in uniforms to makeshift cardboard 'stations".

If I need to refer to resources, I am more comfy with my desktop set up than with my smartphone. If I need a little extra time, I am not holding up a line of folks.

IMHO, Election Month should replace the frantic flustercluck of a single 'Election Day" .
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3rdPersonPlural wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:23 pm
6ftstick wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:00 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:04 pm
6ftstick wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:37 am
With 145 million total cast yeh 4 million is close. Especially since most of those are prolly illegal
Oh I completely agree with you that all of the votes for Trump were illegally cast.

Happy? ;)
See that's where you're mistaken.

Most of Trumps votes were cast on something you call ELECTION DAY.

People stood in line at a polling stations proved who they were and were observed acting constitutionally.

Trump won 48 of 50 states on election day voting.

Democrats not so much.
When I need to do important paperwork -- like, you know, filling out deposit slips for multiple locations or answering long questionnaires -- I like to do it from my desk in my office. Why? Because I am more comfortable that I check the right boxes while in a familiar location rather than standing in an unfamiliar room being stewarded by people in uniforms to makeshift cardboard 'stations".

If I need to refer to resources, I am more comfy with my desktop set up than with my smartphone. If I need a little extra time, I am not holding up a line of folks.

IMHO, Election Month should replace the frantic flustercluck of a single 'Election Day" .
It already has. and see were we are.
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Re: Creepy Uncle Joe Biden

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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:17 am
a fan wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:11 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:05 am But yet I did condemn his behavior.
And also mucked through multiple crybaby and childish threads/cartoons, memes that was hyperbole.
So I expect more of the same, I dont see much changing. Just who's saying it.
And as you point out, what's good for the goose...
I sure don't remember many condemnations from you. But ok.

And you're wrong. The libs don't like Biden, and they're going to hold him accountable.

That's the difference between libs and conservatives: the libs have been on to the D's and r's Bullsh*t for years. It's why Hillary lost. They know that both D's and R's are in the bag for the 1%. They're going to hold Biden to account. R voters haven't caught on to the R's game, and likely never will. It's sad watching them fall further and further behind, economically speaking, with each passing decade.

Assuming, of course, the D's can win the Senate. If McConnell holds? Not only will the libs not be able to hold Biden to account.....no one will, because nothing is going to hit the Senate floor.
You never hear anyone question why these poor rural people, by the tens of millions, continue to vote GOP when their conditions don’t change generation after generation after generation? At least these “blue voters” are in places where there is economic activity. County by county you can see the relationship between blue voters and GDP.

Biden and his crew will serve the ruling class just like other politicians. If you are in one of these blue areas, the Biden administration may not be out to actively work against its supporters. That’s about the best a person could hope for.
Yup all those blue programs in Baltimore, St. Louis, Detroit, Minny, Chi-town, changing the conditions of city dwellers, picking up the families of the downtrodden D voters and putting shoes on their feet!

Those poor people are undoubtedly taking advantage of all the local "economic activity!"

:lol:
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6ftstick wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:25 pm
3rdPersonPlural wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:23 pm
6ftstick wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:00 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:04 pm
6ftstick wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:37 am
With 145 million total cast yeh 4 million is close. Especially since most of those are prolly illegal
Oh I completely agree with you that all of the votes for Trump were illegally cast.

Happy? ;)
See that's where you're mistaken.

Most of Trumps votes were cast on something you call ELECTION DAY.

People stood in line at a polling stations proved who they were and were observed acting constitutionally.

Trump won 48 of 50 states on election day voting.

Democrats not so much.
When I need to do important paperwork -- like, you know, filling out deposit slips for multiple locations or answering long questionnaires -- I like to do it from my desk in my office. Why? Because I am more comfortable that I check the right boxes while in a familiar location rather than standing in an unfamiliar room being stewarded by people in uniforms to makeshift cardboard 'stations".

If I need to refer to resources, I am more comfy with my desktop set up than with my smartphone. If I need a little extra time, I am not holding up a line of folks.

IMHO, Election Month should replace the frantic flustercluck of a single 'Election Day" .
It already has. and see were we are.
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Re: Creepy Uncle Joe Biden

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kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:31 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:17 am
a fan wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:11 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:05 am But yet I did condemn his behavior.
And also mucked through multiple crybaby and childish threads/cartoons, memes that was hyperbole.
So I expect more of the same, I dont see much changing. Just who's saying it.
And as you point out, what's good for the goose...
I sure don't remember many condemnations from you. But ok.

And you're wrong. The libs don't like Biden, and they're going to hold him accountable.

That's the difference between libs and conservatives: the libs have been on to the D's and r's Bullsh*t for years. It's why Hillary lost. They know that both D's and R's are in the bag for the 1%. They're going to hold Biden to account. R voters haven't caught on to the R's game, and likely never will. It's sad watching them fall further and further behind, economically speaking, with each passing decade.

Assuming, of course, the D's can win the Senate. If McConnell holds? Not only will the libs not be able to hold Biden to account.....no one will, because nothing is going to hit the Senate floor.
You never hear anyone question why these poor rural people, by the tens of millions, continue to vote GOP when their conditions don’t change generation after generation after generation? At least these “blue voters” are in places where there is economic activity. County by county you can see the relationship between blue voters and GDP.

Biden and his crew will serve the ruling class just like other politicians. If you are in one of these blue areas, the Biden administration may not be out to actively work against its supporters. That’s about the best a person could hope for.
Yup all those blue programs in Baltimore, St. Louis, Detroit, Minny, Chi-town, changing the conditions of city dwellers, picking up the families of the downtrodden D voters and putting shoes on their feet!

Those poor people are undoubtedly taking advantage of all the local "economic activity!"

:lol:
A portion of them turnover....only to be replaced by other people that look like them. You have a better chance to find a job in and around Baltimore than Western Maryland.... “Cap’n”. They are not all Omar Little.

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DMac wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:49 am Seems to me as if a whole boatload of Americans said they didn't care about that stuff, kram, were fine with the indiscretions and having a Prez with the morals of an alley cat and disposition of a wort hog. This is minor little stuff in comparison, nothing to see here.
Exactly. This is like comparing an elbow in the ribs, in the middle of a game, with a murder during a home invasion. Cosmo should relax a little.

Nice, a childish thread name change. But, sure, you gotta exercise your oomph where you can....
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