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Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:12 am Lots can happen in the next two years.
And the more things change, the more they stay the same. Biden has made big promises that things will be better during his administration. The ball is in his court now to back that up.
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ABV 8.3% wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:18 am
seacoaster wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:21 am Of course....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

"A Trump administration appointee is refusing to sign a letter allowing President-elect Joe Biden’s transition team to formally begin its work this week, in another sign the incumbent president has not acknowledged Biden’s victory and could disrupt the transfer of power.

The administrator of the General Services Administration, the low-profile agency in charge of federal buildings, has a little-known role when a new president is elected: to sign paperwork officially turning over millions of dollars, as well as give access to government officials, office space in agencies and equipment authorized for the taxpayer-funded transition teams of the winner.

It amounts to a formal declaration by the federal government, outside of the media, of the winner of the presidential race.

But by Sunday evening, almost 36 hours after media outlets projected Biden as the winner, GSA Administrator Emily Murphy had written no such letter. And the Trump administration, in keeping with the president’s failure to concede the election, has no immediate plans to sign one. This could lead to the first transition delay in modern history, except in 2000, when the Supreme Court decided a recount dispute between Al Gore and George W. Bush in December.





“Jim made the call at 1 a.m.,” Lu said. “There was simply no controversy involved.”

Robert C. MacKichan Jr., an attorney who served as GSA general counsel for presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, said that because Trump is contesting the election and the electors have not yet voted, it’s too early for Murphy to make a call. Once the administrator issues the letter, the funds can be spent and can’t be recouped.



Trump has personally intervened in the most prominent real estate project in the agency’s entire portfolio: the plan to build a new FBI headquarters that would allow the bureau out of the crumbling and insecure J. Edgar Hoover Building. (please, with this nonsense. Show us the crumble or be gone ) During his first year in office, Trump and the GSA abruptly canceled a bipartisan plan to build a new suburban headquarters for the agency, infuriating Democrats who had worked more than a decade on the project and who alleged that Trump canceled the project so a competing hotel could never be built in place of the Hoover building, a site down the street from his hotel. The White House said the president’s business had nothing to do with the decision."


Why do you post such junk?

Wasn't the past 3 and half years of full throttle tRumps is lousy enough for you? He lost too, btw.

Guess Biden, after almost 50 years of "public service", 8 of which he was vice-PRESIDENT........what is there left to know about "transitions" of office for Joe Biden?


I wonder if a new HQ would keep Hoovers name? There ain't no way the democrats would ever let that happen. :P
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:04 am rrr, abv, etc, I'd love to 'move on'.

To the transition.
To a new President.
To a more competent and more honest administration of the powers of federal government.
Maybe even to a reckoning within my party, the GOP.

One step at a time.

Is there a serious friction remaining to doing so?
Well, yeah, the dishonest a-hole in the Oval Office encouraging his 70 million voters (and 80+ million Twitter followers) to resist the outcome of the election, to believe that the election was stolen, fraudulent, rigged, etc and to exercise their 2nd amendment rights...

Trump goes away, I'm good with letting him go...to jail I hope, but that's another subject.
Sorry, the positive path is to focus on the future. Biden and plans to defeat this worldwide, horrible pandemic.

At this point, you are acting boorish. STILL belittling that antogonistic lacrosse team, after whipping them 21-2 at home, all the way to the bus with taunts. Isn't it enough that he lost ?

Literally half of your neighbors voted for the current POTUSA. Maybe, just perhaps maybe, people should find out why?
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American people don't want to talk about the Biden family’s murky deals with energy companies in Ukraine and China, or their super-creepy family dynamics.
-American person, Jill Biden

“You know, as a mother, I don’t like to see my son attacked and certainly I don’t like to see my husband attacked,” she said. “I mean, this election is not about Joe Biden or Jill Biden or Kamala or Doug. It is about the American people."

https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/jill-bide ... joe-deals/

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cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:19 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:12 am Lots can happen in the next two years.
And the more things change, the more they stay the same. Biden has made big promises that things will be better during his administration. The ball is in his court now to back that up.
Just like high school girls...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ABo4_Lhqpc
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:47 am
seacoaster wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:40 am More on the GSA resistance to calling Biden the person it ascertains to be the President-Elect:

https://twitter.com/MaggieJordanACN/sta ... 6577013765

My sense is the legal challenges could take at least another couple or three weeks to move through the courts, unless there is a capitulation of sorts. You can follow the Democratic side with this guy:

https://twitter.com/MaggieJordanACN/sta ... 6577013765

If GSA resists for another two weeks, transition of the government will be really compromised and made more difficult, less efficient, and likely even more costly as the Biden-Harris people have to play catch-up ball.
ok, we don't think some of the courts will quickly dispose of much of this?

I guess we'll at least soon know whether any of the cases actually present concrete, credible evidence.
So far, nada, and if that continues, should be easy to dispose of as irrelevant.

The GSA delay was predictable, and fortunately the Biden folks already gamed that out many months ago. They'll be moving forward without the normal cooperation and support. Competence matters.
I am building in some potential appellate activity (you know, calling in the chips with Neal, Brett and Amy).
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And more perspective from Jill's first husband:

https://www.jpost.com/us-elections/ex-h ... age-647632

What many people in Delawarew know:
Biden said that the two were introduced after he saw her picture on a poster, and requested her number from his brother, who apparently knew her.
"My brother said, there’s this woman – you’ll really like her, Joe," Biden said in a 2020 Democratic National Convention video, according to the Times. "So I gave her a call, and she had [another] date that night."
Biden claims that he persuaded her to cancel that date, and Jill corroborated the story saying: "You said, do you think you can break your date? Well, I called and told the guy that I had a friend in from out of town, and went out with Joe."
However, her ex-husband, Bill Stevenson, denies the account, claiming that Jill and Joe met before the crash during Biden's campaign for Senate and had an affair which led to the end of their marriage.

The Biden campaign denied the accounts that Stevenson gave to multiple media outlets, accusing him of attempting to publicize his upcoming autobiography, according to the Washington Times.
"These claims are fictitious, seemingly to sell and promote a book,” a Biden campaign spokesperson told Inside Edition in September, according to the paper. “The relationship of Joe and Jill Biden is well documented. Jill Biden separated from her first husband irreconcilably in the fall of 1974 and moved out of their marital home. Joe and Jill Biden had their first date in March of 1975, and they married in June of 1977.
Stevenson made the claims in an August 17 interview with local Delaware media outlet WDEL.
"I said, ‘Look, the Bidens made up this dramatic story that they met, he saw a picture of her,’ and I told him, I said, ‘That was so untrue,’"Stevenson said in the interview, according to the Times. “There’s probably 500 people in Delaware that saw Joe Biden and Jill at three major fundraising events at the Stone Balloon [Ale House] in 1972, after the Stone Balloon opened in February.
"One thing I do not want to do, and I know this might sound funny to people, is that I don’t want to hurt her chances of becoming first lady of the United States – that’s not my goal,” Stevenson told the station, according to the paper. "I would say to Jill, 'listen, you know how I feel about this. You had an affair. You worked on the campaign,'” Stevenson said. “Why you invented this crazy story on Oprah Winfrey [that] he saw your picture in the train station – there’s too many people that knew we worked on his campaign in 1972."
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Even the worst case told from the mouth of the loser, it's still better than paying off hookers, porn stars, etc. Immediate upgrade.
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kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:39 am American people don't want to talk about the Biden family’s murky deals with energy companies in Ukraine and China, or their super-creepy family dynamics.
-American person, Jill Biden

“You know, as a mother, I don’t like to see my son attacked and certainly I don’t like to see my husband attacked,” she said. “I mean, this election is not about Joe Biden or Jill Biden or Kamala or Doug. It is about the American people."

https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/jill-bide ... joe-deals/

:lol:
...and if it were Hillary we'd be talking about her shady family dealings, and if it were Trump we'd be talking about his shady family dealings, and so on. Seems as if it's SOP for we Americans. At least this Prez and fam are a little smoother around the edges and a whole lot more palatable than the current Lame Schmuck and his fam of phony, elitist, schmucks.
Pretty sad state of affairs when your supporters and fellow party members think you're an aszwhole but are okay with that.
Just one example, not gonna miss this guy in the White House.
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cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:11 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:04 am rrr, abv, etc, I'd love to 'move on'.

To the transition.
To a new President.
To a more competent and more honest administration of the powers of federal government.
Maybe even to a reckoning within my party, the GOP.

One step at a time.

Is there a serious friction remaining to doing so?
Well, yeah, the dishonest a-hole in the Oval Office encouraging his 70 million voters (and 80+ million Twitter followers) to resist the outcome of the election, to believe that the election was stolen, fraudulent, rigged, etc and to exercise their 2nd amendment rights...

Trump goes away, I'm good with letting him go...to jail I hope, but that's another subject.
"Maybe even to a reckoning within my party, the GOP."

Good luck doing that with 70 million plus trump voters. I saw Mitt talking this morning and he sure sounds like someone just dying to run again. You bring up a very interesting point MD, how does your party make peace with 70 million trump voters? If your party can't do so they won't win any elections for a very long time.
Never vote for a guy that IS so stupid, that he includes a segment of is biodoc venality where he irons his shirt while wearing it.........tells SO many things about the guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsC66rWOByA

Name ONE thing that you don't want Biden to implement?
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DMac wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:19 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:39 am American people don't want to talk about the Biden family’s murky deals with energy companies in Ukraine and China, or their super-creepy family dynamics.
-American person, Jill Biden

“You know, as a mother, I don’t like to see my son attacked and certainly I don’t like to see my husband attacked,” she said. “I mean, this election is not about Joe Biden or Jill Biden or Kamala or Doug. It is about the American people."

https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/jill-bide ... joe-deals/

:lol:
...and if it were Hillary we'd be talking about her shady family dealings, and if it were Trump we'd be talking about his shady family dealings, and so on. Seems as if it's SOP for we Americans. At least this Prez and fam are a little smoother around the edges and a whole lot more palatable than the current Lame Schmuck and his fam of phony, elitist, schmucks.
Pretty sad state of affairs when your supporters and fellow party members think you're an aszwhole but are okay with that.
Just one example, not gonna miss this guy in the White House.
John Katko: ‘Of course, Trump is a knucklehead. I don’t like him as a person’
Rep. John Katko used the final public forum of his campaign to tell voters that President Donald Trump is a “knucklehead” and ...
Syracuse.com on MSN.com8d
Orange Duce is going to hide out in the White House basement until Jan 20. :lol: Will see less and less of the smelly turd until he finally fades away.
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kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:48 am And more perspective from Jill's first husband:

https://www.jpost.com/us-elections/ex-h ... age-647632

What many people in Delawarew know:
Biden said that the two were introduced after he saw her picture on a poster, and requested her number from his brother, who apparently knew her.
"My brother said, there’s this woman – you’ll really like her, Joe," Biden said in a 2020 Democratic National Convention video, according to the Times. "So I gave her a call, and she had [another] date that night."
Biden claims that he persuaded her to cancel that date, and Jill corroborated the story saying: "You said, do you think you can break your date? Well, I called and told the guy that I had a friend in from out of town, and went out with Joe."
However, her ex-husband, Bill Stevenson, denies the account, claiming that Jill and Joe met before the crash during Biden's campaign for Senate and had an affair which led to the end of their marriage.

The Biden campaign denied the accounts that Stevenson gave to multiple media outlets, accusing him of attempting to publicize his upcoming autobiography, according to the Washington Times.
"These claims are fictitious, seemingly to sell and promote a book,” a Biden campaign spokesperson told Inside Edition in September, according to the paper. “The relationship of Joe and Jill Biden is well documented. Jill Biden separated from her first husband irreconcilably in the fall of 1974 and moved out of their marital home. Joe and Jill Biden had their first date in March of 1975, and they married in June of 1977.
Stevenson made the claims in an August 17 interview with local Delaware media outlet WDEL.
"I said, ‘Look, the Bidens made up this dramatic story that they met, he saw a picture of her,’ and I told him, I said, ‘That was so untrue,’"Stevenson said in the interview, according to the Times. “There’s probably 500 people in Delaware that saw Joe Biden and Jill at three major fundraising events at the Stone Balloon [Ale House] in 1972, after the Stone Balloon opened in February.
"One thing I do not want to do, and I know this might sound funny to people, is that I don’t want to hurt her chances of becoming first lady of the United States – that’s not my goal,” Stevenson told the station, according to the paper. "I would say to Jill, 'listen, you know how I feel about this. You had an affair. You worked on the campaign,'” Stevenson said. “Why you invented this crazy story on Oprah Winfrey [that] he saw your picture in the train station – there’s too many people that knew we worked on his campaign in 1972."
Am really surprised in you that you want to wallow in what seems to be a smutty little story to you.
'72....forty-eight years ago these two met and now have been married for forty-five years. Where's
the story there? There's a disgruntled husband who wasn't taking care of his wife? One third of Americans
have been divorced. Rather commonplace, no?
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kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:48 am And more perspective from Jill's first husband:

https://www.jpost.com/us-elections/ex-h ... age-647632

What many people in Delawarew know:
Biden said that the two were introduced after he saw her picture on a poster, and requested her number from his brother, who apparently knew her.
"My brother said, there’s this woman – you’ll really like her, Joe," Biden said in a 2020 Democratic National Convention video, according to the Times. "So I gave her a call, and she had [another] date that night."
Biden claims that he persuaded her to cancel that date, and Jill corroborated the story saying: "You said, do you think you can break your date? Well, I called and told the guy that I had a friend in from out of town, and went out with Joe."
However, her ex-husband, Bill Stevenson, denies the account, claiming that Jill and Joe met before the crash during Biden's campaign for Senate and had an affair which led to the end of their marriage.

The Biden campaign denied the accounts that Stevenson gave to multiple media outlets, accusing him of attempting to publicize his upcoming autobiography, according to the Washington Times.
"These claims are fictitious, seemingly to sell and promote a book,” a Biden campaign spokesperson told Inside Edition in September, according to the paper. “The relationship of Joe and Jill Biden is well documented. Jill Biden separated from her first husband irreconcilably in the fall of 1974 and moved out of their marital home. Joe and Jill Biden had their first date in March of 1975, and they married in June of 1977.
Stevenson made the claims in an August 17 interview with local Delaware media outlet WDEL.
"I said, ‘Look, the Bidens made up this dramatic story that they met, he saw a picture of her,’ and I told him, I said, ‘That was so untrue,’"Stevenson said in the interview, according to the Times. “There’s probably 500 people in Delaware that saw Joe Biden and Jill at three major fundraising events at the Stone Balloon [Ale House] in 1972, after the Stone Balloon opened in February.
"One thing I do not want to do, and I know this might sound funny to people, is that I don’t want to hurt her chances of becoming first lady of the United States – that’s not my goal,” Stevenson told the station, according to the paper. "I would say to Jill, 'listen, you know how I feel about this. You had an affair. You worked on the campaign,'” Stevenson said. “Why you invented this crazy story on Oprah Winfrey [that] he saw your picture in the train station – there’s too many people that knew we worked on his campaign in 1972."
honestly.....why does this matter....at all....to anyone?
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DMac wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:33 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:48 am And more perspective from Jill's first husband:

https://www.jpost.com/us-elections/ex-h ... age-647632

What many people in Delawarew know:
Biden said that the two were introduced after he saw her picture on a poster, and requested her number from his brother, who apparently knew her.
"My brother said, there’s this woman – you’ll really like her, Joe," Biden said in a 2020 Democratic National Convention video, according to the Times. "So I gave her a call, and she had [another] date that night."
Biden claims that he persuaded her to cancel that date, and Jill corroborated the story saying: "You said, do you think you can break your date? Well, I called and told the guy that I had a friend in from out of town, and went out with Joe."
However, her ex-husband, Bill Stevenson, denies the account, claiming that Jill and Joe met before the crash during Biden's campaign for Senate and had an affair which led to the end of their marriage.

The Biden campaign denied the accounts that Stevenson gave to multiple media outlets, accusing him of attempting to publicize his upcoming autobiography, according to the Washington Times.
"These claims are fictitious, seemingly to sell and promote a book,” a Biden campaign spokesperson told Inside Edition in September, according to the paper. “The relationship of Joe and Jill Biden is well documented. Jill Biden separated from her first husband irreconcilably in the fall of 1974 and moved out of their marital home. Joe and Jill Biden had their first date in March of 1975, and they married in June of 1977.
Stevenson made the claims in an August 17 interview with local Delaware media outlet WDEL.
"I said, ‘Look, the Bidens made up this dramatic story that they met, he saw a picture of her,’ and I told him, I said, ‘That was so untrue,’"Stevenson said in the interview, according to the Times. “There’s probably 500 people in Delaware that saw Joe Biden and Jill at three major fundraising events at the Stone Balloon [Ale House] in 1972, after the Stone Balloon opened in February.
"One thing I do not want to do, and I know this might sound funny to people, is that I don’t want to hurt her chances of becoming first lady of the United States – that’s not my goal,” Stevenson told the station, according to the paper. "I would say to Jill, 'listen, you know how I feel about this. You had an affair. You worked on the campaign,'” Stevenson said. “Why you invented this crazy story on Oprah Winfrey [that] he saw your picture in the train station – there’s too many people that knew we worked on his campaign in 1972."
Am really surprised in you that you want to wallow in what seems to be a smutty little story to you.
'72....forty-eight years ago these two met and now have been married for forty-five years. Where's
the story there? There's a disgruntled husband who wasn't taking care of his wife? One third of Americans
have been divorced. Rather commonplace, no?
Especially compared to the prior regime...
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kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:48 am And more perspective from Jill's first husband:

https://www.jpost.com/us-elections/ex-h ... age-647632

What many people in Delawarew know:
Biden said that the two were introduced after he saw her picture on a poster, and requested her number from his brother, who apparently knew her.
"My brother said, there’s this woman – you’ll really like her, Joe," Biden said in a 2020 Democratic National Convention video, according to the Times. "So I gave her a call, and she had [another] date that night."
Biden claims that he persuaded her to cancel that date, and Jill corroborated the story saying: "You said, do you think you can break your date? Well, I called and told the guy that I had a friend in from out of town, and went out with Joe."
However, her ex-husband, Bill Stevenson, denies the account, claiming that Jill and Joe met before the crash during Biden's campaign for Senate and had an affair which led to the end of their marriage.

The Biden campaign denied the accounts that Stevenson gave to multiple media outlets, accusing him of attempting to publicize his upcoming autobiography, according to the Washington Times.
"These claims are fictitious, seemingly to sell and promote a book,” a Biden campaign spokesperson told Inside Edition in September, according to the paper. “The relationship of Joe and Jill Biden is well documented. Jill Biden separated from her first husband irreconcilably in the fall of 1974 and moved out of their marital home. Joe and Jill Biden had their first date in March of 1975, and they married in June of 1977.
Stevenson made the claims in an August 17 interview with local Delaware media outlet WDEL.
"I said, ‘Look, the Bidens made up this dramatic story that they met, he saw a picture of her,’ and I told him, I said, ‘That was so untrue,’"Stevenson said in the interview, according to the Times. “There’s probably 500 people in Delaware that saw Joe Biden and Jill at three major fundraising events at the Stone Balloon [Ale House] in 1972, after the Stone Balloon opened in February.
"One thing I do not want to do, and I know this might sound funny to people, is that I don’t want to hurt her chances of becoming first lady of the United States – that’s not my goal,” Stevenson told the station, according to the paper. "I would say to Jill, 'listen, you know how I feel about this. You had an affair. You worked on the campaign,'” Stevenson said. “Why you invented this crazy story on Oprah Winfrey [that] he saw your picture in the train station – there’s too many people that knew we worked on his campaign in 1972."
Can you tell me why I should care about any of this stuff?
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seacoaster wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:14 amCan you tell me why I should care about any of this stuff?
The Frothy right thinks we on the left care too much about documented misogynistic behavior on the part of the ex-president, so we should see that this "evidence" they have trotted out makes the president-elect a misogynist also, ergo, the left is hypocritical for not calling out Mr. Biden's "misogyny".

See? Easy! Rightwingnuttery in action. Soo Frothy.

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I hated moral relativism when the Dems trotted it out to defend Bill Clinton and my party took that ball and ran through the end zone and out of the stadium with it the last five years.
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cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:17 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:04 am rrr, abv, etc, I'd love to 'move on'.

To the transition.
To a new President.
To a more competent and more honest administration of the powers of federal government.
Maybe even to a reckoning within my party, the GOP.

One step at a time.

Is there a serious friction remaining to doing so?
Well, yeah, the dishonest a-hole in the Oval Office encouraging his 70 million voters (and 80+ million Twitter followers) to resist the outcome of the election, to believe that the election was stolen, fraudulent, rigged, etc and to exercise their 2nd amendment rights...

Trump goes away, I'm good with letting him go...to jail I hope, but that's another subject.
"To a more competent and more honest administration of the powers of federal government."

The words "competent" and "honest" I am sure you are just using as a figure of speech. I would phrase it more like this... The administration of the powers of the federal government will resort back to what it has been for many years. Calling that "competent" and "honest" on your part is a disservice to the words "competent " and "honest" Of course in the bizzaro world of Washington DC those 2 words are interpreted much differently than any dictionary you will ever find. :D
I'll stand by those words and repeat the "more".
We can argue as to degree of such, but I'd think there'd not be heck of a lot of disagreement about the direction.

After all, I don't think we've ever seen, at least in our lifetimes, this incompetent a bunch of political hacks nor anything remotely close to the amount of widespread corruption throughout this Administration. Doesn't matter which party in power, there's no real comparison.

I don't expect perfection, certainly history, as you say, would not suggest such will be obtained.

But better? More competent and more honest?
Sure as heck hope so!
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DMac wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:19 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:39 am American people don't want to talk about the Biden family’s murky deals with energy companies in Ukraine and China, or their super-creepy family dynamics.
-American person, Jill Biden

“You know, as a mother, I don’t like to see my son attacked and certainly I don’t like to see my husband attacked,” she said. “I mean, this election is not about Joe Biden or Jill Biden or Kamala or Doug. It is about the American people."

https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/jill-bide ... joe-deals/

:lol:
...and if it were Hillary we'd be talking about her shady family dealings, and if it were Trump we'd be talking about his shady family dealings, and so on. Seems as if it's SOP for we Americans. At least this Prez and fam are a little smoother around the edges and a whole lot more palatable than the current Lame Schmuck and his fam of phony, elitist, schmucks.
Pretty sad state of affairs when your supporters and fellow party members think you're an aszwhole but are okay with that.
Just one example, not gonna miss this guy in the White House.
John Katko: ‘Of course, Trump is a knucklehead. I don’t like him as a person’
Rep. John Katko used the final public forum of his campaign to tell voters that President Donald Trump is a “knucklehead” and ...
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Agree. Very well said.
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