Orange Duce

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old salt wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:51 pm
RedFromMI wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:03 pm
The Bogus Fraud Claims Are All About Giving Trump An Off-Ramp, Officials Say
President Donald Trump has promised legal action in the coming days as he refused to concede his loss to Democrat Joe Biden, making an aggressive pitch for donors to help finance any court fight.

Trump and his campaign have leveled accusations of large-scale voter fraud in Pennsylvania and other states that broke for Biden, so far without proof.

But senior officials, campaign aides and allies told The Associated Press that overwhelming evidence of fraud isn’t really the point.

The strategy to wage a legal fight against the votes tallied for Biden in Pennsylvania and other places is more to provide Trump with an off-ramp for a loss he can’t quite grasp and less about changing the election’s outcome, the officials said. They spoke to AP on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal strategy.

Trump aides and allies also acknowledged privately the legal fights would — at best — forestall the inevitable, and some had deep reservations about the president’s attempts to undermine faith in the vote. But they said Trump and a core group of loyalists were aiming to keep his base of supporters on his side even in defeat.

There has never been a presidential election in memory where such widespread fraud was alleged.
That may well be true. More than one thing can be true at the same time. No election in recent history has presented such widespread opportunity for fraud, or been cobbled together so quickly. Mail in voting is obviously the wave of the future. It's introduction on this scale was hastened by the pandemic. By taking a step backward technologically, by relying soley on paper ballots, we protect ourselves from the electronic tampering we were so threatened by. Additionally, when chain of custody is maintained, we have a consistent audit trail to fairly & accurately adjudicate election challenges. This can increase public confidence in the results & bolster the legitimacy of the winners.

In this specific election, the recounts & challenges provide a cooling off period for Trump & his supporters. The more closely the contested states are audited, the greater the acceptance of the ultimate results.

In terms of healing the country, the less Pres Biden does to rub the noses of Trump & his supporters in their loss, the more effective he will be as a leader. Just as it did with his campaign, Covid can work to Biden's advantage in the transition & inauguration. He can let Trump slink out of DC, muttering about his stolen re-election & hold a scaled down inauguration that sets an example for how to handle public gatherings during his Presidency. ...it will also help keep the crowds, from both extremes, off the streets, & let merchants & residents take down the plywood.
Covid is serious. Biden's inauguration should be handled the exact same way all the HIGH school and college graduations were this spring. Online.

The Democrats aren't seriously going to have a large gathering on the Mall, are they? When they can watch the "speech" and ceremony online, with Joe and Jill and all the other clowns in the Rose Garden.
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CU77 wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:32 am
It began on a gold escalator. It may have ended at Four Seasons Total Landscaping.

By Dan Zak and Karen Heller

PHILADELPHIA — The end came in all the places you’d expect, in all the ways you’d expect, with all the people you’d expect.

When news broke Saturday that Donald Trump’s reign was ending, the president was on a golf course that he owns in Virginia, playing his last round as a non-loser. In Washington, about 125 of his worshipful supporters gathered on the stoop of the Supreme Court to “stop the steal,” then circumnavigated the U.S. Capitol seven times, because that’s how the Israelites conquered Jericho, according to the Book of Joshua. And a pair of Trump’s most loyal surrogates made a defiant stand on the gravelly backside of a landscaping business in an industrial stretch of Northeast Philadelphia, near a crematorium and an adult-video store called Fantasy Island, along State Road, which leads — as being associated with Trump sometimes does — to a prison.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyl ... story.html

The whole thing is hilarious.
Byline by Mrs. David Dye, for you fans of the World Cafe. She certainly knows Philly. Fun read. Thanks.
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ABV 8.3% wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:30 am
old salt wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:51 pm
RedFromMI wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:03 pm
The Bogus Fraud Claims Are All About Giving Trump An Off-Ramp, Officials Say
President Donald Trump has promised legal action in the coming days as he refused to concede his loss to Democrat Joe Biden, making an aggressive pitch for donors to help finance any court fight.

Trump and his campaign have leveled accusations of large-scale voter fraud in Pennsylvania and other states that broke for Biden, so far without proof.

But senior officials, campaign aides and allies told The Associated Press that overwhelming evidence of fraud isn’t really the point.

The strategy to wage a legal fight against the votes tallied for Biden in Pennsylvania and other places is more to provide Trump with an off-ramp for a loss he can’t quite grasp and less about changing the election’s outcome, the officials said. They spoke to AP on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal strategy.

Trump aides and allies also acknowledged privately the legal fights would — at best — forestall the inevitable, and some had deep reservations about the president’s attempts to undermine faith in the vote. But they said Trump and a core group of loyalists were aiming to keep his base of supporters on his side even in defeat.

There has never been a presidential election in memory where such widespread fraud was alleged.
That may well be true. More than one thing can be true at the same time. No election in recent history has presented such widespread opportunity for fraud, or been cobbled together so quickly. Mail in voting is obviously the wave of the future. It's introduction on this scale was hastened by the pandemic. By taking a step backward technologically, by relying soley on paper ballots, we protect ourselves from the electronic tampering we were so threatened by. Additionally, when chain of custody is maintained, we have a consistent audit trail to fairly & accurately adjudicate election challenges. This can increase public confidence in the results & bolster the legitimacy of the winners.

In this specific election, the recounts & challenges provide a cooling off period for Trump & his supporters. The more closely the contested states are audited, the greater the acceptance of the ultimate results.

In terms of healing the country, the less Pres Biden does to rub the noses of Trump & his supporters in their loss, the more effective he will be as a leader. Just as it did with his campaign, Covid can work to Biden's advantage in the transition & inauguration. He can let Trump slink out of DC, muttering about his stolen re-election & hold a scaled down inauguration that sets an example for how to handle public gatherings during his Presidency. ...it will also help keep the crowds, from both extremes, off the streets, & let merchants & residents take down the plywood.
Covid is serious. Biden's inauguration should be handled the exact same way all the HIGH school and college graduations were this spring. Online.

The Democrats aren't seriously going to have a large gathering on the Mall, are they? When they can watch the "speech" and ceremony online, with Joe and Jill and all the other clowns in the Rose Garden.
Those were rules when the Trump administration was in power. Biden may do it like you were screaming for... free range. You should be cheering. Your hypocrisy has already started and the dude hasn’t been sworn in yet. Saw you criticize Trump. I have two more fingers before I get to five.
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Glad to hear she’s still with the Post. We miss her in Philly. Wrote for the Inqy for many years before leaving for D.C. Great writer.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:22 am
ABV 8.3% wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:30 am
old salt wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:51 pm
RedFromMI wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:03 pm
The Bogus Fraud Claims Are All About Giving Trump An Off-Ramp, Officials Say
President Donald Trump has promised legal action in the coming days as he refused to concede his loss to Democrat Joe Biden, making an aggressive pitch for donors to help finance any court fight.

Trump and his campaign have leveled accusations of large-scale voter fraud in Pennsylvania and other states that broke for Biden, so far without proof.

But senior officials, campaign aides and allies told The Associated Press that overwhelming evidence of fraud isn’t really the point.

The strategy to wage a legal fight against the votes tallied for Biden in Pennsylvania and other places is more to provide Trump with an off-ramp for a loss he can’t quite grasp and less about changing the election’s outcome, the officials said. They spoke to AP on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal strategy.

Trump aides and allies also acknowledged privately the legal fights would — at best — forestall the inevitable, and some had deep reservations about the president’s attempts to undermine faith in the vote. But they said Trump and a core group of loyalists were aiming to keep his base of supporters on his side even in defeat.

There has never been a presidential election in memory where such widespread fraud was alleged.
That may well be true. More than one thing can be true at the same time. No election in recent history has presented such widespread opportunity for fraud, or been cobbled together so quickly. Mail in voting is obviously the wave of the future. It's introduction on this scale was hastened by the pandemic. By taking a step backward technologically, by relying soley on paper ballots, we protect ourselves from the electronic tampering we were so threatened by. Additionally, when chain of custody is maintained, we have a consistent audit trail to fairly & accurately adjudicate election challenges. This can increase public confidence in the results & bolster the legitimacy of the winners.

In this specific election, the recounts & challenges provide a cooling off period for Trump & his supporters. The more closely the contested states are audited, the greater the acceptance of the ultimate results.

In terms of healing the country, the less Pres Biden does to rub the noses of Trump & his supporters in their loss, the more effective he will be as a leader. Just as it did with his campaign, Covid can work to Biden's advantage in the transition & inauguration. He can let Trump slink out of DC, muttering about his stolen re-election & hold a scaled down inauguration that sets an example for how to handle public gatherings during his Presidency. ...it will also help keep the crowds, from both extremes, off the streets, & let merchants & residents take down the plywood.
Covid is serious. Biden's inauguration should be handled the exact same way all the HIGH school and college graduations were this spring. Online.

The Democrats aren't seriously going to have a large gathering on the Mall, are they? When they can watch the "speech" and ceremony online, with Joe and Jill and all the other clowns in the Rose Garden.
Those were rules when the Trump administration was in power. Biden may do it like you were screaming for... free range. You should be cheering. Your hypocrisy has already started and the dude hasn’t been sworn in yet. Saw you criticize Trump. I have two more fingers before I get to five.
I bet your sore because you think you wont be invited to the inauguration? I'll give you my ticket if you like. ;)
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:22 am
ABV 8.3% wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:30 am
old salt wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:51 pm
RedFromMI wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:03 pm
The Bogus Fraud Claims Are All About Giving Trump An Off-Ramp, Officials Say
President Donald Trump has promised legal action in the coming days as he refused to concede his loss to Democrat Joe Biden, making an aggressive pitch for donors to help finance any court fight.

Trump and his campaign have leveled accusations of large-scale voter fraud in Pennsylvania and other states that broke for Biden, so far without proof.

But senior officials, campaign aides and allies told The Associated Press that overwhelming evidence of fraud isn’t really the point.

The strategy to wage a legal fight against the votes tallied for Biden in Pennsylvania and other places is more to provide Trump with an off-ramp for a loss he can’t quite grasp and less about changing the election’s outcome, the officials said. They spoke to AP on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal strategy.

Trump aides and allies also acknowledged privately the legal fights would — at best — forestall the inevitable, and some had deep reservations about the president’s attempts to undermine faith in the vote. But they said Trump and a core group of loyalists were aiming to keep his base of supporters on his side even in defeat.

There has never been a presidential election in memory where such widespread fraud was alleged.
That may well be true. More than one thing can be true at the same time. No election in recent history has presented such widespread opportunity for fraud, or been cobbled together so quickly. Mail in voting is obviously the wave of the future. It's introduction on this scale was hastened by the pandemic. By taking a step backward technologically, by relying soley on paper ballots, we protect ourselves from the electronic tampering we were so threatened by. Additionally, when chain of custody is maintained, we have a consistent audit trail to fairly & accurately adjudicate election challenges. This can increase public confidence in the results & bolster the legitimacy of the winners.

In this specific election, the recounts & challenges provide a cooling off period for Trump & his supporters. The more closely the contested states are audited, the greater the acceptance of the ultimate results.

In terms of healing the country, the less Pres Biden does to rub the noses of Trump & his supporters in their loss, the more effective he will be as a leader. Just as it did with his campaign, Covid can work to Biden's advantage in the transition & inauguration. He can let Trump slink out of DC, muttering about his stolen re-election & hold a scaled down inauguration that sets an example for how to handle public gatherings during his Presidency. ...it will also help keep the crowds, from both extremes, off the streets, & let merchants & residents take down the plywood.
Covid is serious. Biden's inauguration should be handled the exact same way all the HIGH school and college graduations were this spring. Online.

The Democrats aren't seriously going to have a large gathering on the Mall, are they? When they can watch the "speech" and ceremony online, with Joe and Jill and all the other clowns in the Rose Garden.
Those were rules when the Trump administration was in power. Biden may do it like you were screaming for... free range. You should be cheering. Your hypocrisy has already started and the dude hasn’t been sworn in yet. Saw you criticize Trump. I have two more fingers before I get to five.
Great ! You support a "proceed as if normal " POTUSA inauguration. who is the hypocrite

still waiting for specifics on what tRump acted on differently than what W.H.O and the CDC, along with others, recommended.

Any of these "only the best" still involved with covid planning?

https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org ... 1/players/
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cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:26 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:22 am
ABV 8.3% wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:30 am
old salt wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:51 pm
RedFromMI wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:03 pm
The Bogus Fraud Claims Are All About Giving Trump An Off-Ramp, Officials Say
President Donald Trump has promised legal action in the coming days as he refused to concede his loss to Democrat Joe Biden, making an aggressive pitch for donors to help finance any court fight.

Trump and his campaign have leveled accusations of large-scale voter fraud in Pennsylvania and other states that broke for Biden, so far without proof.

But senior officials, campaign aides and allies told The Associated Press that overwhelming evidence of fraud isn’t really the point.

The strategy to wage a legal fight against the votes tallied for Biden in Pennsylvania and other places is more to provide Trump with an off-ramp for a loss he can’t quite grasp and less about changing the election’s outcome, the officials said. They spoke to AP on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal strategy.

Trump aides and allies also acknowledged privately the legal fights would — at best — forestall the inevitable, and some had deep reservations about the president’s attempts to undermine faith in the vote. But they said Trump and a core group of loyalists were aiming to keep his base of supporters on his side even in defeat.

There has never been a presidential election in memory where such widespread fraud was alleged.
That may well be true. More than one thing can be true at the same time. No election in recent history has presented such widespread opportunity for fraud, or been cobbled together so quickly. Mail in voting is obviously the wave of the future. It's introduction on this scale was hastened by the pandemic. By taking a step backward technologically, by relying soley on paper ballots, we protect ourselves from the electronic tampering we were so threatened by. Additionally, when chain of custody is maintained, we have a consistent audit trail to fairly & accurately adjudicate election challenges. This can increase public confidence in the results & bolster the legitimacy of the winners.

In this specific election, the recounts & challenges provide a cooling off period for Trump & his supporters. The more closely the contested states are audited, the greater the acceptance of the ultimate results.

In terms of healing the country, the less Pres Biden does to rub the noses of Trump & his supporters in their loss, the more effective he will be as a leader. Just as it did with his campaign, Covid can work to Biden's advantage in the transition & inauguration. He can let Trump slink out of DC, muttering about his stolen re-election & hold a scaled down inauguration that sets an example for how to handle public gatherings during his Presidency. ...it will also help keep the crowds, from both extremes, off the streets, & let merchants & residents take down the plywood.
Covid is serious. Biden's inauguration should be handled the exact same way all the HIGH school and college graduations were this spring. Online.

The Democrats aren't seriously going to have a large gathering on the Mall, are they? When they can watch the "speech" and ceremony online, with Joe and Jill and all the other clowns in the Rose Garden.
Those were rules when the Trump administration was in power. Biden may do it like you were screaming for... free range. You should be cheering. Your hypocrisy has already started and the dude hasn’t been sworn in yet. Saw you criticize Trump. I have two more fingers before I get to five.
I bet your sore because you think you wont be invited to the inauguration? I'll give you my ticket if you like. ;)
Great point....I hadn't thought about all the Inaug balls......and the chance for the new POTUSA to get those big sponser donations to pay for like, Obama did :lol:

but, these balls , and another chance for my son to wear his tux......won't be happening. Unless covid will be captured by then

but the Boston Marathon has already been cancelled......
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ABV 8.3% wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:28 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:22 am
ABV 8.3% wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:30 am
old salt wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:51 pm
RedFromMI wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:03 pm
The Bogus Fraud Claims Are All About Giving Trump An Off-Ramp, Officials Say
President Donald Trump has promised legal action in the coming days as he refused to concede his loss to Democrat Joe Biden, making an aggressive pitch for donors to help finance any court fight.

Trump and his campaign have leveled accusations of large-scale voter fraud in Pennsylvania and other states that broke for Biden, so far without proof.

But senior officials, campaign aides and allies told The Associated Press that overwhelming evidence of fraud isn’t really the point.

The strategy to wage a legal fight against the votes tallied for Biden in Pennsylvania and other places is more to provide Trump with an off-ramp for a loss he can’t quite grasp and less about changing the election’s outcome, the officials said. They spoke to AP on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal strategy.

Trump aides and allies also acknowledged privately the legal fights would — at best — forestall the inevitable, and some had deep reservations about the president’s attempts to undermine faith in the vote. But they said Trump and a core group of loyalists were aiming to keep his base of supporters on his side even in defeat.

There has never been a presidential election in memory where such widespread fraud was alleged.
That may well be true. More than one thing can be true at the same time. No election in recent history has presented such widespread opportunity for fraud, or been cobbled together so quickly. Mail in voting is obviously the wave of the future. It's introduction on this scale was hastened by the pandemic. By taking a step backward technologically, by relying soley on paper ballots, we protect ourselves from the electronic tampering we were so threatened by. Additionally, when chain of custody is maintained, we have a consistent audit trail to fairly & accurately adjudicate election challenges. This can increase public confidence in the results & bolster the legitimacy of the winners.

In this specific election, the recounts & challenges provide a cooling off period for Trump & his supporters. The more closely the contested states are audited, the greater the acceptance of the ultimate results.

In terms of healing the country, the less Pres Biden does to rub the noses of Trump & his supporters in their loss, the more effective he will be as a leader. Just as it did with his campaign, Covid can work to Biden's advantage in the transition & inauguration. He can let Trump slink out of DC, muttering about his stolen re-election & hold a scaled down inauguration that sets an example for how to handle public gatherings during his Presidency. ...it will also help keep the crowds, from both extremes, off the streets, & let merchants & residents take down the plywood.
Covid is serious. Biden's inauguration should be handled the exact same way all the HIGH school and college graduations were this spring. Online.

The Democrats aren't seriously going to have a large gathering on the Mall, are they? When they can watch the "speech" and ceremony online, with Joe and Jill and all the other clowns in the Rose Garden.
Those were rules when the Trump administration was in power. Biden may do it like you were screaming for... free range. You should be cheering. Your hypocrisy has already started and the dude hasn’t been sworn in yet. Saw you criticize Trump. I have two more fingers before I get to five.
Great ! You support a "proceed as if normal " POTUSA inauguration. who is the hypocrite

still waiting for specifics on what tRump acted on differently than what W.H.O and the CDC, along with others, recommended.

Any of these "only the best" still involved with covid planning?

https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org ... 1/players/
Where did I indicate what my preference is? I posted about YOUR hypocrisy. Waiting on you to deflect Biden criticism for 4 years. If you expect me to be as hard on Biden as I was on Trump, you will be waiting a long time. I am on the record....I haven’t liked Trump for 30 years. I am going to treat Biden like I treated Bush, Clinton, old man Bush and Obama. Not going to bother me one way or the other because TAATS Cap’n! (I owe you Kramer)

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darn write taats

But, remember, your defense , constant defense, of Hillaryous Clinton, Obama, etc. (your rant of "they're not POTUSA "

got it.

You really are lost if you think I support tRump. What I defend, is , in reality, a rant against the rants .

What, are you going to claim that you do NOT defend the aforementioned?
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Harvard University, out
University of Utah, in

I am going to get a 4.0 in damage.

(Afan jealous he didn’t do this first)
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It has been proven a hundred times that the surest way to the heart of any man, black or white, honest or dishonest, is through justice and fairness.

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The Bible warns against following the Antichrist who would call himself "the Chosen" just like tRUMP did. It says desperate simpletons would readily succumb to his lies and charlatanism but that such a worshipping would lead to perdition. In India these are a few simpletons who actually worship the Moron In Chief:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXNb2Xn ... =emb_title


This may be because he is regarded as an enemy of Islam and there are many in that country at war with that religion.
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Brooklyn wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:45 am All Was In Compliance



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXNb2Xn ... =emb_title
Nice coda.
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Some 71 MILLION of our Countrymen pulled the lever for Trump despite his miserable performance on Covid 19 and his apparent ambivalence to desperately needed (and extremely popular) stimulus efforts. And his puerile Twitter problem.

If Trump had opted to take the pandemic seriously in February and used his ownership of the Republican voting base to bully the Senate into supporting a >$2 Trillion stimulus bill Saagar contends that he would have won in a landslide, despite the fact that affluent suburbanites like most of us loathe the man.



FWIW, I have found this daily YouTube broadcast to be must-watch TV. Saagar is, for want of a better term, an articulate advocate for the 'New Right" that rejects NeoConservatism as a corporate cover and his co-host, Krystal Ball, is an equally vocal advocate for the progressive New Left who heaps scorn on the NeoLiberal faction launched by Clinton and perfected by Obama.

Enjoy!
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:41 am
ABV 8.3% wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:28 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:22 am
ABV 8.3% wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:30 am
old salt wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:51 pm
RedFromMI wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:03 pm
The Bogus Fraud Claims Are All About Giving Trump An Off-Ramp, Officials Say
President Donald Trump has promised legal action in the coming days as he refused to concede his loss to Democrat Joe Biden, making an aggressive pitch for donors to help finance any court fight.

Trump and his campaign have leveled accusations of large-scale voter fraud in Pennsylvania and other states that broke for Biden, so far without proof.

But senior officials, campaign aides and allies told The Associated Press that overwhelming evidence of fraud isn’t really the point.

The strategy to wage a legal fight against the votes tallied for Biden in Pennsylvania and other places is more to provide Trump with an off-ramp for a loss he can’t quite grasp and less about changing the election’s outcome, the officials said. They spoke to AP on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal strategy.

Trump aides and allies also acknowledged privately the legal fights would — at best — forestall the inevitable, and some had deep reservations about the president’s attempts to undermine faith in the vote. But they said Trump and a core group of loyalists were aiming to keep his base of supporters on his side even in defeat.

There has never been a presidential election in memory where such widespread fraud was alleged.
That may well be true. More than one thing can be true at the same time. No election in recent history has presented such widespread opportunity for fraud, or been cobbled together so quickly. Mail in voting is obviously the wave of the future. It's introduction on this scale was hastened by the pandemic. By taking a step backward technologically, by relying soley on paper ballots, we protect ourselves from the electronic tampering we were so threatened by. Additionally, when chain of custody is maintained, we have a consistent audit trail to fairly & accurately adjudicate election challenges. This can increase public confidence in the results & bolster the legitimacy of the winners.

In this specific election, the recounts & challenges provide a cooling off period for Trump & his supporters. The more closely the contested states are audited, the greater the acceptance of the ultimate results.

In terms of healing the country, the less Pres Biden does to rub the noses of Trump & his supporters in their loss, the more effective he will be as a leader. Just as it did with his campaign, Covid can work to Biden's advantage in the transition & inauguration. He can let Trump slink out of DC, muttering about his stolen re-election & hold a scaled down inauguration that sets an example for how to handle public gatherings during his Presidency. ...it will also help keep the crowds, from both extremes, off the streets, & let merchants & residents take down the plywood.
Covid is serious. Biden's inauguration should be handled the exact same way all the HIGH school and college graduations were this spring. Online.

The Democrats aren't seriously going to have a large gathering on the Mall, are they? When they can watch the "speech" and ceremony online, with Joe and Jill and all the other clowns in the Rose Garden.
Those were rules when the Trump administration was in power. Biden may do it like you were screaming for... free range. You should be cheering. Your hypocrisy has already started and the dude hasn’t been sworn in yet. Saw you criticize Trump. I have two more fingers before I get to five.
Great ! You support a "proceed as if normal " POTUSA inauguration. who is the hypocrite

still waiting for specifics on what tRump acted on differently than what W.H.O and the CDC, along with others, recommended.

Any of these "only the best" still involved with covid planning?

https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org ... 1/players/
Where did I indicate what my preference is? I posted about YOUR hypocrisy. Waiting on you to deflect Biden criticism for 4 years. If you expect me to be as hard on Biden as I was on Trump, you will be waiting a long time. I am on the record....I haven’t liked Trump for 30 years. I am going to treat Biden like I treated Bush, Clinton, old man Bush and Obama. Not going to bother me one way or the other because TAATS Cap’n! (I owe you Kramer)

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Harvard University, out
University of Utah, in

I am going to get a 4.0 in damage.

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"What began five years ago with the announcement of Donald Trump's presidential ambitions ... ended Saturday with his aging lawyer shouting conspiracy theories and vowing lawsuits in a Northeast Philadelphia parking lot, near a sex shop and a crematorium."

https://www.inquirer.com/news/four-seas ... 01108.html
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3rdPersonPlural wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:39 pm Some 71 MILLION of our Countrymen pulled the lever for Trump despite his miserable performance on Covid 19 and his apparent ambivalence to desperately needed (and extremely popular) stimulus efforts. And his puerile Twitter problem.

If Trump had opted to take the pandemic seriously in February and used his ownership of the Republican voting base to bully the Senate into supporting a >$2 Trillion stimulus bill Saagar contends that he would have won in a landslide, despite the fact that affluent suburbanites like most of us loathe the man.



FWIW, I have found this daily YouTube broadcast to be must-watch TV. Saagar is, for want of a better term, an articulate advocate for the 'New Right" that rejects NeoConservatism as a corporate cover and his co-host, Krystal Ball, is an equally vocal advocate for the progressive New Left who heaps scorn on the NeoLiberal faction launched by Clinton and perfected by Obama.

Enjoy!
Quality stuff.
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Re: Orange Duce

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Matnum PI wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:51 pm "What began five years ago with the announcement of Donald Trump's presidential ambitions ... ended Saturday with his aging lawyer shouting conspiracy theories and vowing lawsuits in a Northeast Philadelphia parking lot, near a sex shop and a crematorium."

https://www.inquirer.com/news/four-seas ... 01108.html
Don't know if this was in this article or another one I read, but someone asked the sex shop owner if he was open. He said "yes."

American entrepreneurship at its finest. Probably the best foot traffic he's ever had.
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Re: Orange Duce

Post by ggait »

Trump fires SecDef.

Ben Carson C+ (election night super spreader event).

David Bossie C+ (also election night SS event). FYI, Bossie is the non-lawyer just named by Trump to lead the legal fight to overturn the election.

Going to be a wild ride until January 20.

But very good news about a potentially 90% effective vaccine coming from Pfizer. Maybe Trump should focus on that?
Boycott stupid. If you ignore the gator troll, eventually he'll just go back under his bridge.
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