SCOTUS

[cradleandshoot]

Obviously we don't much care what you think either, ggait. As was pointed out earlier this was a concern with the new Justice which is why it came up and is being discussed here. Not a big deal, just wait it out, it'll come back around to where you want it. Don't let us stop you for posting what you want, we certainly don't let you stop us from posting what we want. Pretty fair, no?

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[cradleandshoot]

Abortion is not against "natural law". What the fu*k is a miscarriage? Nature's abortion!

... by the way, where is Cradle when God needs a good dressing down for performing abortions?

God is not in charge of free will doc. We are all free to f**k up our lives as we all see fit. You have a PhD and you don't get that? BTW a misacarriage is not an abortion... dumbass Are you sure you have a doctorate degree?? Most of you smart people at least sound smart once in awhile. There is always an exception to the rule. You clearly are the exception.

[jhu72]

Abortion is not against "natural law". What the fu*k is a miscarriage? Nature's abortion!

... by the way, where is Cradle when God needs a good dressing down for performing abortions?

Correct. Mother nature is choosing to do it.
A mother intentionally and willfully choosing to abort their kid is against natural law. Against natural phenomena. Taking a viable pregnancy and ending it.

... and man is part of nature and man chooses to abort, so this is natural as well.

There are many things people CAN do. But the overwhelming natural instinct is to want to carry/protect/care for your child. Not kill it.

Says you. There are species that eat their young (among other horrors) under some circumstances. There is great diversity in species and within species, nature is neither monolithic nor perfect, just as man is not. Man has been and is in some cultures a cannibal. Tell these folks this is not natural. At the end of the day what is thought or preached as natural is nothing but a choice, even in the lower animals. Change the circumstances and you change what is thought to be natural. We keep three Guinea Pigs in the kitchen, they and a recent arrival from Alpha Centauri would think it is their nature, no other way to be, but to hoot loudly when the refrigerator door is opened. It is their nature.

[jhu72]

Abortion is not against "natural law". What the fu*k is a miscarriage? Nature's abortion!

... by the way, where is Cradle when God needs a good dressing down for performing abortions?

God is not in charge of free will doc. We are all free to f**k up our lives as we all see fit. You have a PhD and you don't get that? BTW a misacarriage is not an abortion... dumbass Are you sure you have a doctorate degree?? Most of you smart people at least sound smart once in awhile. There is always an exception to the rule. You clearly are the exception.

Kramer says you are wrong. A miscarriage is NATURE's (GOD's) abortion. So why aren't you dressing him down with your usual rant about abortion and virtue signaling your superiority? Chicken, afraid of God?

[cradleandshoot]

Abortion is not against "natural law". What the fu*k is a miscarriage? Nature's abortion!

... by the way, where is Cradle when God needs a good dressing down for performing abortions?

Correct. Mother nature is choosing to do it.
A mother intentionally and willfully choosing to abort their kid is against natural law. Against natural phenomena. Taking a viable pregnancy and ending it.

... and man is part of nature and man chooses to abort, so this is natural as well.

There are many things people CAN do. But the overwhelming natural instinct is to want to carry/protect/care for your child. Not kill it.

Says you. There are species that eat their young (among other horrors) under some circumstances. There is great diversity in species and within species, nature is neither monolithic nor perfect, just as man is not. Man has been and is in some cultures a cannibal. Tell these folks this is not natural. At the end of the day what is thought or preached as natural is nothing but a choice, even in the lower animals. Change the circumstances and you change what is thought to be natural. We keep three Guinea Pigs in the kitchen, they and a recent arrival from Alpha Centauri would think it is their nature, no other way to be, but to hoot loudly when the refrigerator door is opened. It is their nature.

"There are species that eat their young"

Nice try doc, i watched all those old Smothers Brothers routines, even had some of their albums. That eating your young comment should be acknowledged from Dicky Smothers to Tommy Smothers...

[cradleandshoot]

Abortion is not against "natural law". What the fu*k is a miscarriage? Nature's abortion!

... by the way, where is Cradle when God needs a good dressing down for performing abortions?

God is not in charge of free will doc. We are all free to f**k up our lives as we all see fit. You have a PhD and you don't get that? BTW a misacarriage is not an abortion... dumbass Are you sure you have a doctorate degree?? Most of you smart people at least sound smart once in awhile. There is always an exception to the rule. You clearly are the exception.

Kramer says you are wrong. A miscarriage is NATURE's (GOD's) abortion. So why aren't you dressing him down with your usual rant about abortion and virtue signaling your superiority? Chicken, afraid of God?

Where did you get that cracker jack doctorate again? Perhaps your own parents should have considered an abortion all those years ago. With our luck you would have survived somehow.

[jhu72]

Zoologists have observed filial cannibalism, the act of eating one's offspring, in many different types of animals, including bank voles, house finches, wolf spiders and many fish species. Paradoxically, all of the species also care for the young that they don't eat.

Why Some Animals Eat Their Offspring - Live Science
www.livescience.com/2053-animals-eat-offspring.html
www.livescience.com/2053-animals-eat-offspring.html

[wgdsr]

ok. what kind of sick case is scotus ruling on in the on deck circle now?

[jhu72]

ok. what kind of sick case is scotus ruling on in the on deck circle now?

[ggait]

You know, I really think Betamax is much better than VCR. I think Sony is going to win this fight.

Agree or disagree?

[kramerica.inc]

Abortion is not against "natural law". What the fu*k is a miscarriage? Nature's abortion!

... by the way, where is Cradle when God needs a good dressing down for performing abortions?

God is not in charge of free will doc. We are all free to f**k up our lives as we all see fit. You have a PhD and you don't get that? BTW a misacarriage is not an abortion... dumbass Are you sure you have a doctorate degree?? Most of you smart people at least sound smart once in awhile. There is always an exception to the rule. You clearly are the exception.

A miscarriage happens naturally. An abortion is unnatural.
He knows what natural law is.
Those arguing are just trying to obfuscate.

[jhu72]

You know, I really think Betamax is much better than VCR. I think Sony is going to win this fight.

Agree or disagree?

[DMac]

Whichever one the porn is clearer on will win.
....and jftr, that's a whole lot better way of taking your thread back than coming on as the authority figure.

[kramerica.inc]

Would welcomed convenience be a better way to put it (ultimately means the same)?
I respect your conviction, kram, gotta ask you this though, why are rape victims pardoned from your condemnation?
Same deal, an unwanted pregnancy (just like little 16 year old Catholic school girl's is) ending with the same gruesome procedure? How do you differentiate that unborn from the school girl's?

Because I'm not condemning the people at all.

But the laws and the act? Yes. Abortion is totally against natural law and human nature.

I don't think any abortion is morally "right." But we are talkign the leagality and fuine print of the laws. My suggestion was a compromise in the discussion. The hope was to quiet the other side that argues rape, incest and the mother's health are needed, special exceptions for abortion. Fine. I'll concede those rare instances if it means eliminating walk-ins. Where is the compromise on the other side? I'm also pro contraception and pro education.

The numbers are trending down...but that's still a lot of abortions:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_ ... and%201998.

IMO, the numbers are especially egregious when you hear the moan and cry from some pro-abortion people about deaths due to a natural occurring virus.

We care about the 230k, why not the 600K+? Neither group had any choice in their fate.

can a third, or late term abortion. like the law Virginia's covid Positive Gov. loves, ALSO be considered a covid death? I mean, legally, if it's medicaid that is paying for it in the first place, will the clinic get the additional funds like all the other health care providers? boy,, timing IS everything

And location, location, location.

[cradleandshoot]

You know, I really think Betamax is much better than VCR. I think Sony is going to win this fight.

Agree or disagree?

Knowing your a lawyer your just way too cheap to update your technology. How are your 8 tracks sounding?

[ABV 8.3%]

Abortion is not against "natural law". What the fu*k is a miscarriage? Nature's abortion!

... by the way, where is Cradle when God needs a good dressing down for performing abortions?

would obese, old farts that have run their course, dying of, why not COVID, count as natures abortions? The actual word: abortion, evah has a "time" constraint. That is something humans quantify. ........can't it be nature running the law of natural, as far as covid is concerned ?

I mean, we had posters actually cheering/hoping for the death of another fellow human being. (tRump/v19) (maybe some of "us" others ,have old f'rs that we can't wait to die, too )

[kramerica.inc]

Biden will codify abortion depending on the actions of SCOTUS:

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5f7c ... 29a057a43f

[DMac]

Abortion is not against "natural law". What the fu*k is a miscarriage? Nature's abortion!

... by the way, where is Cradle when God needs a good dressing down for performing abortions?

Correct. Mother nature is choosing to do it.
A mother intentionally and willfully choosing to abort their kid is against natural law. Against natural phenomena. Taking a viable pregnancy and ending it.

Yes. Keeping premies alive who never would have made it in the times of survival of the fittest (natural law) is against natural law too. So we can pick and choose where we want to interefere, no? Now again it comes back to moral views.

[cradleandshoot]

Zoologists have observed filial cannibalism, the act of eating one's offspring, in many different types of animals, including bank voles, house finches, wolf spiders and many fish species. Paradoxically, all of the species also care for the young that they don't eat.

Why Some Animals Eat Their Offspring - Live Science
www.livescience.com/2053-animals-eat-offspring.html
www.livescience.com/2053-animals-eat-offspring.html

Yeah i know somebody that had a kitty cat that did the same thing with one of her kittens that didn't live. It is not uncommon in some societies to eat the afterbirth in a placental stew. Does that sorta not make all of us cannibals?

[ardilla secreta]

Abortion is not against "natural law". What the fu*k is a miscarriage? Nature's abortion!

... by the way, where is Cradle when God needs a good dressing down for performing abortions?

Correct. Mother nature is choosing to do it.
A mother intentionally and willfully choosing to abort their kid is against natural law. Against natural phenomena. Taking a viable pregnancy and ending it.

Yes. Keeping premies alive who never would have made it in the times of survival of the fittest (natural law) is against natural law too. So we can pick and choose where we want to interefere, no? Now again it comes back to moral views.

Is Kram advocating that it’s ok to have sex with a female once they start menstruating because it’s natural?