TRUMP: “Joe got $3.5 (million) from Russia. And it came through Putin because he was very friendly with the former mayor of Moscow, and it was the the mayor of Moscow’s wife. … Your family got $3.5 million. Someday you’re going to have to explain why.”
THE FACTS: There is no evidence of this. Trump is falsely characterizing a recent report by Republican Sen. Ron Johnson, who investigated Biden’s son, Hunter, and his business dealings in Ukraine.
The report did not allege that Joe Biden himself got $3.5 million or that Russia President Vladimir Putin had anything to do with such a payment. Nor does the report allege that Hunter Biden pocketed the money himself. The report said the sum went instead to an investment firm he co-founded. Hunter Biden’s lawyer has said in a statement to reporters that his client had no interest in and was not a founder of the firm.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues
CU88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:44 am TRUMP: “Joe got $3.5 (million) from Russia. And it came through Putin because he was very friendly with the former mayor of Moscow, and it was the the mayor of Moscow’s wife. … Your family got $3.5 million. Someday you’re going to have to explain why.”
THE FACTS: There is no evidence of this. Trump is falsely characterizing a recent report by Republican Sen. Ron Johnson, who investigated Biden’s son, Hunter, and his business dealings in Ukraine.
The report did not allege that Joe Biden himself got $3.5 million or that Russia President Vladimir Putin had anything to do with such a payment. Nor does the report allege that Hunter Biden pocketed the money himself. The report said the sum went instead to an investment firm he co-founded. Hunter Biden’s lawyer has said in a statement to reporters that his client had no interest in and was not a founder of the firm.
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foreverlax wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:19 amWhich of the Obama era nonsensical regs are you most thrilled about now that they are gone?kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:14 amAs I've said before, no, I'm not. Going to write-in Hogan.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:06 amwell sure, and you're going to vote for Trump.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:34 am Red, The big difference is you see the dismantling/gutting of federal Institutions/regulations and leaving international orgs/agreements as a bad thing. Myself and many others see it as an accomplishment.
A lot of people are.
This is NOT a binary choice. I refuse to pull the lever for the "lesser of two evils."
I think Trump's accomplishments in dismantling the fed and many of the obama era nonsensical regs and virtue signal executive orders are great. But his personal behavior, crassness, and degradation of the office of president and constant bombast, lying and fight picking cant be rewarded with my vote. We can do better.
Eliminating red tape, potential penalties, potential liability and environmental regs for businesses and industries including farmers, meat packers, nursing homes and internet providers. How they operate and provide services, environmentally, in the courts, and in general practice. Eliminating some unnecessary fed reporting guidelines on salaries, practices etc. All government overreach that straps most businesses and wastes corporate time and provides no overt benefit to the fed, other than collecting the info.
A lot of the ACA crap- eliminating some of the unconstitutional penalties for not being insured.
A lot of the environmental overreach. Telling states what they can and can't do- Fracking, drilling, building roads on fed lands etc. Dictating what type of power we can and can't use, while the rest of the world manipulates fuel pricing and follow slim to no environmental regs.
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Except none you can name a single regulation that was “dismantled “.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:34 am Red, The big difference is you see the dismantling/gutting of federal Institutions/regulations and leaving international orgs/agreements as a bad thing. Myself and many others see it as an accomplishment.
And what Federal institutions were gutted?
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I think what we are discussing what is in reality trying to compare real integrity from the perception of integrity. Sure Biden is not in trumps league when it comes to ethics and integrity. Joe is the personification of a politician who has waded through the political cesspool for many years. He ain't trump but he will never smell like lilacs in the spring. Joe can put that big old smile in his face and press the flesh(pre Covid of course) and just make everybody believe he is a loveable ole teddy bear. He ain't trump, hopefully he is just a placeholder for 4 years. He is just another career politician that is as dishonest as the rest. The good thing is he can come across as likeable while he is picking your pocket.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:13 amyet, that's his reputation after 47 years.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:03 amTo quote Joe Friday... Just the facts. Dude did not spend 47 years in the DC meat grinder and become an " honest Joe" as an end product.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:45 amDevil’s Advocatingcradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:41 amBIDEN 2020... TRUTH OVER LIES... At least with Joe we will be getting a professional, highly skilled political liar. He will be much more believable than that rank amateur trump.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:30 amIt was acceptable from you.old salt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:45 pmIt's significant because Joe has tried to perpetuate the image that he was never involved in Hunter's business & never traded on his name.njbill wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:13 pmMissed this the first time through. The email in question is dated May 2017. Joe Biden was a private citizen. Even if any of this stuff and nonsense is true, where is the illegality or improper behavior?old salt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:53 pm Ruh Roh. TB, who was in for a 20 share, on the Big Guy email, confirms the email is genuine & Papa Joe was very much in the loop.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter ... den-advice
He is now being forced to acknowledge it.
The response now for Biden is-- "so what ? it's not illegal". When was that ever an acceptable response from Trump ?
One doesn't lie, cheat and steal incessantly and earn that reputation.
This ain't a close call if integrity is the measure for a binary choice.
We don't make mistakes, we have happy accidents.
Bob Ross:
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Here is an interview with Rudy on Hunter
https://youtu.be/vw2YVXUvZHE
https://youtu.be/vw2YVXUvZHE
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my apologies, you've indeed made that clear. My bad.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:14 amAs I've said before, no, I'm not. Going to write-in Hogan.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:06 amwell sure, and you're going to vote for Trump.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:34 am Red, The big difference is you see the dismantling/gutting of federal Institutions/regulations and leaving international orgs/agreements as a bad thing. Myself and many others see it as an accomplishment.
A lot of people are.
This is NOT a binary choice. I refuse to pull the lever for the "lesser of two evils."
I think Trump's accomplishments in dismantling the fed and many of the obama era nonsensical regs and virtue signal executive orders are great. But his personal behavior, crassness, and degradation of the office of president and constant bombast, lying and fight picking cant be rewarded with my vote. We can do better.
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We only got a head and shoulders shot of Rudy in this clip because his shirt wasn’t tucked in.Cooter wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:26 pm Here is an interview with Rudy on Hunter
https://youtu.be/vw2YVXUvZHE
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Yeah, those multinational corporations can hardly catch a break. Imagine the gall of our government not wanting them to pollute our rivers to the point where the idea of swimming in them sounds insane. Heck, let’s go back to the 70s where you couldn’t see the hand in front of your face for all the smog we had.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:54 am Eliminating red tape, potential penalties, potential liability and environmental regs for businesses and industries including farmers, meat packers, nursing homes and internet providers. How they operate and provide services, environmentally, in the courts, and in general practice. Eliminating some unnecessary fed reporting guidelines on salaries, practices etc. All government overreach that straps most businesses and wastes corporate time and provides no overt benefit to the fed, other than collecting the info.
My solution for folks like you who think that drinking water doesn’t taste right if it’s not filled with fracking fluid and heavy metals from mining operations—-make you and your family live right next to these operations. Problem solved— these poor ol’ corporations don’t have to deal with pesky rules, and you and your family get to deal directly with the consequences of not having any environmental standards whatsoever.
Deal? We’ll call your new utopian city “Cancerland”, where the life expectancy is 40 years—-but you could brag to your friends about how “free” all those corporations that pollute Cancerland are, so you’ll have that going for ya!!!
And your other complaints—ACA making people pay for the health care they get? When did you turn into a hippie communist? So you think it’s swell that folks show up to the ER—and guys like me get to pick up their tab?
And yes, the Federal government should be ashamed for not letting energy companies act like THEY own that land, and the rest of us citizens shouldn’t be allowed to decide best how to use the land WE own. Should we just give that land to British Petroleum, and get it over with?
You’re on a roll today, Kram!
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Chi Coms have gifted $68 MILLION to the University of Pennsylvania
UofP paid Joe Biden over 900K over three years.
HHMMMMMM?
UofP paid Joe Biden over 900K over three years.
HHMMMMMM?
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Maybe Guilfoyle was under the desk?njbill wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:04 pmWe only got a head and shoulders shot of Rudy in this clip because his shirt wasn’t tucked in.Cooter wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:26 pm Here is an interview with Rudy on Hunter
https://youtu.be/vw2YVXUvZHE
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I'm sure he's worth it.
Why are ChiComs financing American Universities?
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So, which family member got that money if not Joe or Hunter, per the fact check?6ftstick wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:46 amCU88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:44 am TRUMP: “Joe got $3.5 (million) from Russia. And it came through Putin because he was very friendly with the former mayor of Moscow, and it was the the mayor of Moscow’s wife. … Your family got $3.5 million. Someday you’re going to have to explain why.”
THE FACTS: There is no evidence of this. Trump is falsely characterizing a recent report by Republican Sen. Ron Johnson, who investigated Biden’s son, Hunter, and his business dealings in Ukraine.
The report did not allege that Joe Biden himself got $3.5 million or that Russia President Vladimir Putin had anything to do with such a payment. Nor does the report allege that Hunter Biden pocketed the money himself. The report said the sum went instead to an investment firm he co-founded. Hunter Biden’s lawyer has said in a statement to reporters that his client had no interest in and was not a founder of the firm.
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I mentioned a few regulations that were cut. Salary reporting for all based on ethnicity? Bs regulation.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:41 amExcept none you can name a single regulation that was “dismantled “.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:34 am Red, The big difference is you see the dismantling/gutting of federal Institutions/regulations and leaving international orgs/agreements as a bad thing. Myself and many others see it as an accomplishment.
And what Federal institutions were gutted?
Telling internet providers that they can’t throttle service? Suddenly the .gov is in the communications biz? Telling states they can’t build a roads on fed property? Keystone pipeline?
Gtfoh
The Feds need to butt out.
There’s a huge list on WaPo.com.
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Perhaps they have not figured that out yet.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:48 pmSo, which family member got that money if not Joe or Hunter, per the fact check?6ftstick wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:46 amCU88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:44 am TRUMP: “Joe got $3.5 (million) from Russia. And it came through Putin because he was very friendly with the former mayor of Moscow, and it was the the mayor of Moscow’s wife. … Your family got $3.5 million. Someday you’re going to have to explain why.”
THE FACTS: There is no evidence of this. Trump is falsely characterizing a recent report by Republican Sen. Ron Johnson, who investigated Biden’s son, Hunter, and his business dealings in Ukraine.
The report did not allege that Joe Biden himself got $3.5 million or that Russia President Vladimir Putin had anything to do with such a payment. Nor does the report allege that Hunter Biden pocketed the money himself. The report said the sum went instead to an investment firm he co-founded. Hunter Biden’s lawyer has said in a statement to reporters that his client had no interest in and was not a founder of the firm.
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Lincoln Project has put up a couple of cool billboards in Times Square:
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yup, the Trump cult is flailing big time.Cooter wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:53 pmPerhaps they have not figured that out yet.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:48 pmSo, which family member got that money if not Joe or Hunter, per the fact check?6ftstick wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:46 amCU88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:44 am TRUMP: “Joe got $3.5 (million) from Russia. And it came through Putin because he was very friendly with the former mayor of Moscow, and it was the the mayor of Moscow’s wife. … Your family got $3.5 million. Someday you’re going to have to explain why.”
THE FACTS: There is no evidence of this. Trump is falsely characterizing a recent report by Republican Sen. Ron Johnson, who investigated Biden’s son, Hunter, and his business dealings in Ukraine.
The report did not allege that Joe Biden himself got $3.5 million or that Russia President Vladimir Putin had anything to do with such a payment. Nor does the report allege that Hunter Biden pocketed the money himself. The report said the sum went instead to an investment firm he co-founded. Hunter Biden’s lawyer has said in a statement to reporters that his client had no interest in and was not a founder of the firm.
Just throwing mud is the whole point.
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Like having the Ukrainian Prime Minister make an announcement on TV that Biden is being investigated. Same old tactic but a different approach. Deplorable.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:32 amyup, the Trump cult is flailing big time.Cooter wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:53 pmPerhaps they have not figured that out yet.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:48 pmSo, which family member got that money if not Joe or Hunter, per the fact check?6ftstick wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:46 amCU88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:44 am TRUMP: “Joe got $3.5 (million) from Russia. And it came through Putin because he was very friendly with the former mayor of Moscow, and it was the the mayor of Moscow’s wife. … Your family got $3.5 million. Someday you’re going to have to explain why.”
THE FACTS: There is no evidence of this. Trump is falsely characterizing a recent report by Republican Sen. Ron Johnson, who investigated Biden’s son, Hunter, and his business dealings in Ukraine.
The report did not allege that Joe Biden himself got $3.5 million or that Russia President Vladimir Putin had anything to do with such a payment. Nor does the report allege that Hunter Biden pocketed the money himself. The report said the sum went instead to an investment firm he co-founded. Hunter Biden’s lawyer has said in a statement to reporters that his client had no interest in and was not a founder of the firm.
Just throwing mud is the whole point.
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I'm not in the Trump cult, just the anti-biden cult.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:32 amyup, the Trump cult is flailing big time.Cooter wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:53 pmPerhaps they have not figured that out yet.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:48 pmSo, which family member got that money if not Joe or Hunter, per the fact check?6ftstick wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:46 amCU88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:44 am TRUMP: “Joe got $3.5 (million) from Russia. And it came through Putin because he was very friendly with the former mayor of Moscow, and it was the the mayor of Moscow’s wife. … Your family got $3.5 million. Someday you’re going to have to explain why.”
THE FACTS: There is no evidence of this. Trump is falsely characterizing a recent report by Republican Sen. Ron Johnson, who investigated Biden’s son, Hunter, and his business dealings in Ukraine.
The report did not allege that Joe Biden himself got $3.5 million or that Russia President Vladimir Putin had anything to do with such a payment. Nor does the report allege that Hunter Biden pocketed the money himself. The report said the sum went instead to an investment firm he co-founded. Hunter Biden’s lawyer has said in a statement to reporters that his client had no interest in and was not a founder of the firm.
Just throwing mud is the whole point.
You are in the Biden cult and the anti-Trump cult.
By the way, where is Hunter Biden?
I haven't seen anything of him lately?
Shouldn't he be out denying this stuff?
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