Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

[CU88]

TRUMP: “Joe got $3.5 (million) from Russia. And it came through Putin because he was very friendly with the former mayor of Moscow, and it was the the mayor of Moscow’s wife. … Your family got $3.5 million. Someday you’re going to have to explain why.”

THE FACTS: There is no evidence of this. Trump is falsely characterizing a recent report by Republican Sen. Ron Johnson, who investigated Biden’s son, Hunter, and his business dealings in Ukraine.

The report did not allege that Joe Biden himself got $3.5 million or that Russia President Vladimir Putin had anything to do with such a payment. Nor does the report allege that Hunter Biden pocketed the money himself. The report said the sum went instead to an investment firm he co-founded. Hunter Biden’s lawyer has said in a statement to reporters that his client had no interest in and was not a founder of the firm.

[6ftstick]

TRUMP: “Joe got $3.5 (million) from Russia. And it came through Putin because he was very friendly with the former mayor of Moscow, and it was the the mayor of Moscow’s wife. … Your family got $3.5 million. Someday you’re going to have to explain why.”

THE FACTS: There is no evidence of this. Trump is falsely characterizing a recent report by Republican Sen. Ron Johnson, who investigated Biden’s son, Hunter, and his business dealings in Ukraine.

The report did not allege that Joe Biden himself got $3.5 million or that Russia President Vladimir Putin had anything to do with such a payment. Nor does the report allege that Hunter Biden pocketed the money himself. The report said the sum went instead to an investment firm he co-founded. Hunter Biden’s lawyer has said in a statement to reporters that his client had no interest in and was not a founder of the firm.

[kramerica.inc]

Red, The big difference is you see the dismantling/gutting of federal Institutions/regulations and leaving international orgs/agreements as a bad thing. Myself and many others see it as an accomplishment.

well sure, and you're going to vote for Trump.
A lot of people are.

As I've said before, no, I'm not. Going to write-in Hogan.
This is NOT a binary choice. I refuse to pull the lever for the "lesser of two evils."
I think Trump's accomplishments in dismantling the fed and many of the obama era nonsensical regs and virtue signal executive orders are great. But his personal behavior, crassness, and degradation of the office of president and constant bombast, lying and fight picking cant be rewarded with my vote. We can do better.

Which of the Obama era nonsensical regs are you most thrilled about now that they are gone?

Eliminating red tape, potential penalties, potential liability and environmental regs for businesses and industries including farmers, meat packers, nursing homes and internet providers. How they operate and provide services, environmentally, in the courts, and in general practice. Eliminating some unnecessary fed reporting guidelines on salaries, practices etc. All government overreach that straps most businesses and wastes corporate time and provides no overt benefit to the fed, other than collecting the info.

A lot of the ACA crap- eliminating some of the unconstitutional penalties for not being insured.

A lot of the environmental overreach. Telling states what they can and can't do- Fracking, drilling, building roads on fed lands etc. Dictating what type of power we can and can't use, while the rest of the world manipulates fuel pricing and follow slim to no environmental regs.

[a fan]

Red, The big difference is you see the dismantling/gutting of federal Institutions/regulations and leaving international orgs/agreements as a bad thing. Myself and many others see it as an accomplishment.

Except none you can name a single regulation that was “dismantled “.

And what Federal institutions were gutted?

[cradleandshoot]

Ruh Roh. TB, who was in for a 20 share, on the Big Guy email, confirms the email is genuine & Papa Joe was very much in the loop.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter ... den-advice

Missed this the first time through. The email in question is dated May 2017. Joe Biden was a private citizen. Even if any of this stuff and nonsense is true, where is the illegality or improper behavior?

It's significant because Joe has tried to perpetuate the image that he was never involved in Hunter's business & never traded on his name.

He is now being forced to acknowledge it.

The response now for Biden is-- "so what ? it's not illegal". When was that ever an acceptable response from Trump ?

It was acceptable from you.

BIDEN 2020... TRUTH OVER LIES... At least with Joe we will be getting a professional, highly skilled political liar. He will be much more believable than that rank amateur trump.

Devil’s Advocating

To quote Joe Friday... Just the facts. Dude did not spend 47 years in the DC meat grinder and become an " honest Joe" as an end product.

yet, that's his reputation after 47 years.
One doesn't lie, cheat and steal incessantly and earn that reputation.

This ain't a close call if integrity is the measure for a binary choice.

I think what we are discussing what is in reality trying to compare real integrity from the perception of integrity. Sure Biden is not in trumps league when it comes to ethics and integrity. Joe is the personification of a politician who has waded through the political cesspool for many years. He ain't trump but he will never smell like lilacs in the spring. Joe can put that big old smile in his face and press the flesh(pre Covid of course) and just make everybody believe he is a loveable ole teddy bear. He ain't trump, hopefully he is just a placeholder for 4 years. He is just another career politician that is as dishonest as the rest. The good thing is he can come across as likeable while he is picking your pocket.

[Cooter]

Here is an interview with Rudy on Hunter
https://youtu.be/vw2YVXUvZHE

[MDlaxfan76]

Red, The big difference is you see the dismantling/gutting of federal Institutions/regulations and leaving international orgs/agreements as a bad thing. Myself and many others see it as an accomplishment.

well sure, and you're going to vote for Trump.
A lot of people are.

As I've said before, no, I'm not. Going to write-in Hogan.
This is NOT a binary choice. I refuse to pull the lever for the "lesser of two evils."
I think Trump's accomplishments in dismantling the fed and many of the obama era nonsensical regs and virtue signal executive orders are great. But his personal behavior, crassness, and degradation of the office of president and constant bombast, lying and fight picking cant be rewarded with my vote. We can do better.

my apologies, you've indeed made that clear. My bad.

[njbill]

Here is an interview with Rudy on Hunter
https://youtu.be/vw2YVXUvZHE

We only got a head and shoulders shot of Rudy in this clip because his shirt wasn’t tucked in.

[a fan]

Eliminating red tape, potential penalties, potential liability and environmental regs for businesses and industries including farmers, meat packers, nursing homes and internet providers. How they operate and provide services, environmentally, in the courts, and in general practice. Eliminating some unnecessary fed reporting guidelines on salaries, practices etc. All government overreach that straps most businesses and wastes corporate time and provides no overt benefit to the fed, other than collecting the info.

Yeah, those multinational corporations can hardly catch a break. Imagine the gall of our government not wanting them to pollute our rivers to the point where the idea of swimming in them sounds insane. Heck, let’s go back to the 70s where you couldn’t see the hand in front of your face for all the smog we had.

My solution for folks like you who think that drinking water doesn’t taste right if it’s not filled with fracking fluid and heavy metals from mining operations—-make you and your family live right next to these operations. Problem solved— these poor ol’ corporations don’t have to deal with pesky rules, and you and your family get to deal directly with the consequences of not having any environmental standards whatsoever.

Deal? We’ll call your new utopian city “Cancerland”, where the life expectancy is 40 years—-but you could brag to your friends about how “free” all those corporations that pollute Cancerland are, so you’ll have that going for ya!!!

And your other complaints—ACA making people pay for the health care they get? When did you turn into a hippie communist? So you think it’s swell that folks show up to the ER—and guys like me get to pick up their tab?

And yes, the Federal government should be ashamed for not letting energy companies act like THEY own that land, and the rest of us citizens shouldn’t be allowed to decide best how to use the land WE own. Should we just give that land to British Petroleum, and get it over with?

You’re on a roll today, Kram!

[6ftstick]

Chi Coms have gifted $68 MILLION to the University of Pennsylvania

UofP paid Joe Biden over 900K over three years.

HHMMMMMM?

[seacoaster]

Chi Coms have gifted $68 MILLION to the University of Pennsylvania

UofP paid Joe Biden over 900K over three years.

HHMMMMMM?

Boy, your evidentiary web is tightening!!!

[youthathletics]

Here is an interview with Rudy on Hunter
https://youtu.be/vw2YVXUvZHE

We only got a head and shoulders shot of Rudy in this clip because his shirt wasn’t tucked in.

Maybe Guilfoyle was under the desk?

[6ftstick]

Chi Coms have gifted $68 MILLION to the University of Pennsylvania

UofP paid Joe Biden over 900K over three years.

HHMMMMMM?

Boy, your evidentiary web is tightening!!!

I'm sure he's worth it.

Why are ChiComs financing American Universities?

[MDlaxfan76]

TRUMP: “Joe got $3.5 (million) from Russia. And it came through Putin because he was very friendly with the former mayor of Moscow, and it was the the mayor of Moscow’s wife. … Your family got $3.5 million. Someday you’re going to have to explain why.”

THE FACTS: There is no evidence of this. Trump is falsely characterizing a recent report by Republican Sen. Ron Johnson, who investigated Biden’s son, Hunter, and his business dealings in Ukraine.

The report did not allege that Joe Biden himself got $3.5 million or that Russia President Vladimir Putin had anything to do with such a payment. Nor does the report allege that Hunter Biden pocketed the money himself. The report said the sum went instead to an investment firm he co-founded. Hunter Biden’s lawyer has said in a statement to reporters that his client had no interest in and was not a founder of the firm.

So, which family member got that money if not Joe or Hunter, per the fact check?

[kramerica.inc]

Red, The big difference is you see the dismantling/gutting of federal Institutions/regulations and leaving international orgs/agreements as a bad thing. Myself and many others see it as an accomplishment.

Except none you can name a single regulation that was “dismantled “.

And what Federal institutions were gutted?

I mentioned a few regulations that were cut. Salary reporting for all based on ethnicity? Bs regulation.
Telling internet providers that they can’t throttle service? Suddenly the .gov is in the communications biz? Telling states they can’t build a roads on fed property? Keystone pipeline?
Gtfoh

The Feds need to butt out.

There’s a huge list on WaPo.com.

[Cooter]

TRUMP: “Joe got $3.5 (million) from Russia. And it came through Putin because he was very friendly with the former mayor of Moscow, and it was the the mayor of Moscow’s wife. … Your family got $3.5 million. Someday you’re going to have to explain why.”

THE FACTS: There is no evidence of this. Trump is falsely characterizing a recent report by Republican Sen. Ron Johnson, who investigated Biden’s son, Hunter, and his business dealings in Ukraine.

The report did not allege that Joe Biden himself got $3.5 million or that Russia President Vladimir Putin had anything to do with such a payment. Nor does the report allege that Hunter Biden pocketed the money himself. The report said the sum went instead to an investment firm he co-founded. Hunter Biden’s lawyer has said in a statement to reporters that his client had no interest in and was not a founder of the firm.

So, which family member got that money if not Joe or Hunter, per the fact check?

Perhaps they have not figured that out yet.

[CU77]

Lincoln Project has put up a couple of cool billboards in Times Square:

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https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politi ... story.html

[MDlaxfan76]

TRUMP: “Joe got $3.5 (million) from Russia. And it came through Putin because he was very friendly with the former mayor of Moscow, and it was the the mayor of Moscow’s wife. … Your family got $3.5 million. Someday you’re going to have to explain why.”

THE FACTS: There is no evidence of this. Trump is falsely characterizing a recent report by Republican Sen. Ron Johnson, who investigated Biden’s son, Hunter, and his business dealings in Ukraine.

The report did not allege that Joe Biden himself got $3.5 million or that Russia President Vladimir Putin had anything to do with such a payment. Nor does the report allege that Hunter Biden pocketed the money himself. The report said the sum went instead to an investment firm he co-founded. Hunter Biden’s lawyer has said in a statement to reporters that his client had no interest in and was not a founder of the firm.

So, which family member got that money if not Joe or Hunter, per the fact check?

Perhaps they have not figured that out yet.

yup, the Trump cult is flailing big time.
Just throwing mud is the whole point.

[Typical Lax Dad]

TRUMP: “Joe got $3.5 (million) from Russia. And it came through Putin because he was very friendly with the former mayor of Moscow, and it was the the mayor of Moscow’s wife. … Your family got $3.5 million. Someday you’re going to have to explain why.”

THE FACTS: There is no evidence of this. Trump is falsely characterizing a recent report by Republican Sen. Ron Johnson, who investigated Biden’s son, Hunter, and his business dealings in Ukraine.

The report did not allege that Joe Biden himself got $3.5 million or that Russia President Vladimir Putin had anything to do with such a payment. Nor does the report allege that Hunter Biden pocketed the money himself. The report said the sum went instead to an investment firm he co-founded. Hunter Biden’s lawyer has said in a statement to reporters that his client had no interest in and was not a founder of the firm.

So, which family member got that money if not Joe or Hunter, per the fact check?

Perhaps they have not figured that out yet.

yup, the Trump cult is flailing big time.
Just throwing mud is the whole point.

Like having the Ukrainian Prime Minister make an announcement on TV that Biden is being investigated. Same old tactic but a different approach. Deplorable.

[Cooter]

TRUMP: “Joe got $3.5 (million) from Russia. And it came through Putin because he was very friendly with the former mayor of Moscow, and it was the the mayor of Moscow’s wife. … Your family got $3.5 million. Someday you’re going to have to explain why.”

THE FACTS: There is no evidence of this. Trump is falsely characterizing a recent report by Republican Sen. Ron Johnson, who investigated Biden’s son, Hunter, and his business dealings in Ukraine.

The report did not allege that Joe Biden himself got $3.5 million or that Russia President Vladimir Putin had anything to do with such a payment. Nor does the report allege that Hunter Biden pocketed the money himself. The report said the sum went instead to an investment firm he co-founded. Hunter Biden’s lawyer has said in a statement to reporters that his client had no interest in and was not a founder of the firm.

So, which family member got that money if not Joe or Hunter, per the fact check?

Perhaps they have not figured that out yet.

yup, the Trump cult is flailing big time.
Just throwing mud is the whole point.

I'm not in the Trump cult, just the anti-biden cult.
You are in the Biden cult and the anti-Trump cult.

By the way, where is Hunter Biden?
I haven't seen anything of him lately?
Shouldn't he be out denying this stuff?