JUST the Stolen Documents/Mar-A-Lago/"Judge" Cannon Trial

The odds are excellent that you will leave this forum hating someone.
User avatar
old salt
Posts: 18882
Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:44 am

Re: The Politics of National Security

Post by old salt »

kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:49 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:47 pm Good to see the indictments BEFORE the election this go 'round. Well Done AG Barr !
+1
Well keyboard spooks, what do ya think about DNI Ratcliffe now ?

I wonder if John Sipher & the rest of his washed up, out of the loop, partisan hack colleagues approve of warning the voters before the election, rather than using it as an excuse after losing.

Joy Reid fulminates about Proud Boy voter intimidation emails in her lead-in to the DNI & FBI Director,
who warn us about bogus emails from Iran & Russia,

Joy Reid then sniffs that he didn't mention the Proud Boys, then she brings on Clint Watts who says the Proud Boys emails look to be an Iranian false flag op, :lol: ...prompting a circular b!tch session with Reid, Val Demings, & Malcom Nance that the Trump Admin doesn't name the Proud Boys enough.

Then Nasty Natasha Bertrand comes on & says it's odd & doesn't seem urgent, but notes that it's more than "the government did in 2016."

...they can't take yes for an answer without throwing shade on the Trump Admin.

{lengthy excerpt for the benefit of non-subscribers}
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technolo ... s-florida/

U.S. government concludes Iran was behind threatening emails sent to Democrats

The deceptive campaign made use of an Internet domain associated with the far-right Proud Boys
Ratcliffe says Iran and Russia are taking actions to influence 2020 election

The U.S. government has concluded that Iran was behind a series of threatening emails arriving this week in the inboxes of Democratic voters, according to two U.S. officials.

Department of Homeland Security officials told state and local election administrators on a call Wednesday that a foreign government was responsible for the online barrage, according to the U.S. officials and state and local authorities who participated in the call, who all spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the matter’s sensitivity. A DHS official also said authorities had detected holes in state and local election websites and instructed those participating to patch their online services.

The emails claimed to be from the Proud Boys, a far-right group supportive of President Trump, but appeared instead to be a deceptive campaign making use of a vulnerability in the organization’s online network.

First divulged on Tuesday by local law enforcement and elections officials in Florida and Alaska, the emails were soon turned over to federal authorities, according to U.S. officials.

The messages appeared to target Democrats using data from digital databases known as “voter files,” some of which are commercially available. They told recipients the Proud Boys were “in possession of all your information” and instructed voters to change their party registration and cast their ballots for Trump.

By suggesting the group had gained access to privileged data, and also possibly penetrated electronic systems to detect how people were voting, the emails seemed designed to create the appearance of an election breach, said cybersecurity researchers. Such a move may serve to undermine confidence in the integrity of the democratic process without posing a genuine risk to the election, these researchers said.

“You will vote for Trump on Election Day or we will come after you,” warned the emails, which by Tuesday night were said to have reached voters in as many as four states, three of them hotly contested swing states in the coming presidential election.

The domain enlisted for the misleading operation, officialproudboys.com, was recently dropped by a hosting company that uses Google Cloud services, according to Google Cloud spokesman Ted Ladd. Without a secure host, the domain stood vulnerable to exploitation, cybersecurity experts said. Voters using Comcast, Yahoo and Gmail accounts were affected.

In addition to reports from Florida and Alaska, a voter in Pennsylvania told The Washington Post she had received one such email, though she suspected it may have been linked to her previous registration in Alaska. The Pennsylvania attorney general’s office had not received reports about the messages, a spokesman, Mark Shade, said Wednesday.

Kristen Clarke, president and executive director of the national Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, said her organization had received at least one report that a similar email had reached a voter in Arizona. The Arizona secretary of state’s office was looking into the matter, said a spokeswoman, Sophia Solis.

Enrique Tarrio, the chairman of the Proud Boys and the Florida state director of Latinos for Trump, denied involvement, saying the group operates two sites, and was increasingly migrating away from the domain used in the email campaign.

Trump’s debate comments give an online boost to a group social media companies have long struggled against

“Two weeks ago, I believe, we had Google Cloud services drop us from their platform, so then we initiated a url transfer, which is still in process,” he said in an interview. “We kind of just never used it.”

The technical data embedded in the emails did not make immediately apparent who was behind the messages. But metadata gathered from dozens of the emails pointed to the use of servers in Saudi Arabia, Estonia, Singapore and the United Arab Emirates, according to numerous analysts.

“It’s clearly organized and very much planned,” said Rita Katz, executive director of SITE Intelligence Group.

Democrats in Alachua County, in north-central Florida, began receiving the messages on Tuesday morning, according to interviews with several recipients. So, too, did voters in Alaska, said Casey Steinau, chair of the Alaska Democratic Party. Her communications director, Jeanne Devon, said Tuesday night that the FBI “is now involved in the investigation.” A spokeswoman for the bureau’s Anchorage field office did not respond to a request for comment.

“This is absolutely something to be concerned about,” said John Scott-Railton, a senior researcher at the Citizen Lab at the University of Toronto’s Munk School of Global Affairs and Public Policy. “This is what election interference looks like.” He said he knew of a threatening email reaching a voter in Pennsylvania.

Scott-Railton also said one email he had viewed included a link to a video — earlier reported by Vice — showing Trump making disparaging comments about mail-in voting, followed by a logo with the name of the Proud Boys. It then documented what was made to appear as a hack of voting data in an effort to produce a fraudulent ballot. The video was also posted on a Twitter account that has since been suspended.

Even as the president sows doubt about mail balloting, federal law enforcement officials as well as election administrators have underscored the security of the process, which has been routine in some states for years. They also have warned about possible disinformation designed to create the appearance of fraud or to stoke fears of voter intimidation — which itself threatens to keep voters away from the polls.

The Justice Department issued a statement on Wednesday saying it was “aware of reports that threatening correspondence referencing the current election” have been sent to people in several states. It said it could neither confirm nor deny any investigation and said, “if appropriate, the department will prosecute any civil or criminal violation to the fullest extent of the law.”

Christopher C. Krebs, director of DHS’s Security’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, wrote in a tweet on Tuesday that his office was aware of the emails, noting, “Ballot secrecy is guaranteed by law in all states.”

“These emails are meant to intimidate and undermine American voters’ confidence in our elections,” he added.

Some cybersecurity experts said foreign involvement should be expected.

“We’re still reviewing it, but it wouldn’t be unheard of for a foreign actor to impersonate political figures or organizations,” said John Hultquist, senior director of analysis for Mandiant Threat Intelligence. “It could be a form of voter intimidation or it could be meant to inject discord into an already fragile process.”

Tarrio, determined to beat back the perception of involvement by the Proud Boys, said he had spoken to an FBI agent about the episode. Amanda Videll, a spokeswoman for the bureau in Jacksonville, Fla., declined to comment.

Bennett Ragan, campaign manager for a Democratic State House candidate in Gainesville, Fla., said he received two of the threatening messages on his Gmail account and knows of at least 10 other similar emails that had reached friends or associates. He said the home address cited in the emails he received could have come only from a Florida voters’ roll from 2018 because he has moved several times in recent years.

Ragan said he believed the purpose was to intimidate Democratic voters in a swing state with hotly contested races up and down the ballot on Nov. 3.

“When you have people who have a voter roll and then send off emails, they will make a big splash. They will scare people. That is without a doubt the intent,” he said.

The hosting service that previously carried the Proud Boys domain canceled the registration after Google Cloud notified the customer that a nonprofit group had raised concerns about the controversial organization, said Ladd, the Google Cloud spokesman.

Following the action from the hosting service, the domain appears to have been left unsecured, allowing anyone on the Internet to take control of it and use it to send out the menacing messages, said Trevor Davis, CEO of CounterAction, a Washington-based digital intelligence firm.

The lapse, which began on Oct. 8, “likely made them vulnerable to this kind of hijacking,” Davis said. “Bad actors are constantly scanning the Internet for opportunities. Given the public profile of the Proud Boys and the likelihood that whoever’s sending these emails has access to a voter file, this appears to be opportunism.”

An Internet Protocol (IP) address associated with metadata in at least one email had previously been reported, pointing to its likely use in scam or phishing operations, said Cindy Otis, a former CIA analyst and vice president of analysis for Alethea Group, an organization combating online threats and misinformation.

The Proud Boys rose to national prominence last month during the first presidential debate between Trump and his Democratic rival, Joe Biden, when the president passed up an invitation by moderator Chris Wallace, of Fox News, to denounce White supremacists. When Biden suggested that Trump denounce the Proud Boys, he said they should “stand back and stand by” — a comment that was widely celebrated on social media by the group as a call to action.

The Proud Boys: How the right-wing extremist group gained prominence
During the first presidential debate Sept. 29, President Trump told the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by.” Here’s why they are defined as a hate group. (Allie Caren/The Washington Post)
Memes circulated online with the words integrated into the Proud Boys logo. One doctored image showed Trump wearing one of the Proud Boys’ signature polo shirts. Another online poster used the moment to advertise T-shirts and hoodies bearing the group’s logo and the words “PROUD BOYS STANDING BY.”

The group’s leaders say they do not support White supremacy, but they had a contingent at 2017’s notorious Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville. The Proud Boys also have been frequent participants in the protests demonstrating against coronavirus shutdowns and, more recently, the protests in Portland, Ore. Facebook has banned the group as a hate group, and the Southern Poverty Law Center classifies it as a hate group and says its leaders “regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists.”
Last edited by old salt on Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:49 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Typical Lax Dad
Posts: 34200
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:10 pm

Re: The Politics of National Security

Post by Typical Lax Dad »

“U.S. intelligence agencies say Iran and Russia have tried to interfere in 2020 election”

I wonder who the Turks are backing? They need to put as much manpower on it as possible. MAGA......I remember when WE used to pick leaders for other countries....ahh the good old days!
“I wish you would!”
User avatar
holmes435
Posts: 2357
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:57 am

Re: The Politics of National Security

Post by holmes435 »

Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:34 pm “U.S. intelligence agencies say Iran and Russia have tried to interfere in 2020 election”

I wonder who the Turks are backing? They need to put as much manpower on it as possible. MAGA......I remember when WE used to pick leaders for other countries....ahh the good old days!
Don't fret! We're still doing it in South America, with varying results.
Typical Lax Dad
Posts: 34200
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:10 pm

Re: The Politics of National Security

Post by Typical Lax Dad »

holmes435 wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:41 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:34 pm “U.S. intelligence agencies say Iran and Russia have tried to interfere in 2020 election”

I wonder who the Turks are backing? They need to put as much manpower on it as possible. MAGA......I remember when WE used to pick leaders for other countries....ahh the good old days!
Don't fret! We're still doing it in South America, with varying results.
Mexico and Brazil are our peers now (and India). 4 more years and we will be Uruguay!
“I wish you would!”
ardilla secreta
Posts: 2203
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:32 am
Location: Niagara Frontier

Re: The Politics of National Security

Post by ardilla secreta »

One of the funniest lines of the year.

“We have already seen Iran sending spoofed emails, designed to intimidate voters, incite social unrest and damage President Trump,” said John Ratcliffe, the director of national intelligence.
User avatar
youthathletics
Posts: 15873
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:36 pm

Re: The Politics of National Security

Post by youthathletics »

ardilla secreta wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:10 am One of the funniest lines of the year.

“We have already seen Iran sending spoofed emails, designed to intimidate voters, incite social unrest and damage President Trump,” said John Ratcliffe, the director of national intelligence.
Wonder who sends me all those Amazon "phishing" emails to account I do not even have.
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
~Livy


“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
User avatar
cradleandshoot
Posts: 15476
Joined: Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:42 pm

Re: The Politics of National Security

Post by cradleandshoot »

My biggest question, they had to break into our TVs with a special report to share this with us? :roll:
We don't make mistakes, we have happy accidents.
Bob Ross:
User avatar
MDlaxfan76
Posts: 27113
Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:40 pm

Re: The Politics of National Security

Post by MDlaxfan76 »

ardilla secreta wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:10 am One of the funniest lines of the year.

“We have already seen Iran sending spoofed emails, designed to intimidate voters, incite social unrest and damage President Trump,” said John Ratcliffe, the director of national intelligence.
Yup, emails threatening Dem voters that if they vote for Biden the Proud Boys are coming for them...are 'designed to'... 'damage President Trump'...???? :roll: :roll: :roll:

FBI Director doesn't agree, but he's a dead man walking...
seacoaster
Posts: 8866
Joined: Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:36 pm

Re: The Politics of National Security

Post by seacoaster »

MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:41 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:10 am One of the funniest lines of the year.

“We have already seen Iran sending spoofed emails, designed to intimidate voters, incite social unrest and damage President Trump,” said John Ratcliffe, the director of national intelligence.
Yup, emails threatening Dem voters that if they vote for Biden the Proud Boys are coming for them...are 'designed to'... 'damage President Trump'...???? :roll: :roll: :roll:

FBI Director doesn't agree, but he's a dead man walking...
This was understood when Ratcliffe was nominated by Duce: that he would bend the power of his agency to the assistance of the reelection campaign if and when necessary. "We'll hurt you if you don't vote for Trump" is aimed at helping Biden. Sure. But Keyboard Jockey and Dogwalker Deluxe want to discuss laptops left in a pizza joint in Rehoboth or something.
User avatar
MDlaxfan76
Posts: 27113
Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:40 pm

Re: The Politics of National Security

Post by MDlaxfan76 »

seacoaster wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:53 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:41 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:10 am One of the funniest lines of the year.

“We have already seen Iran sending spoofed emails, designed to intimidate voters, incite social unrest and damage President Trump,” said John Ratcliffe, the director of national intelligence.
Yup, emails threatening Dem voters that if they vote for Biden the Proud Boys are coming for them...are 'designed to'... 'damage President Trump'...???? :roll: :roll: :roll:

FBI Director doesn't agree, but he's a dead man walking...
This was understood when Ratcliffe was nominated by Duce: that he would bend the power of his agency to the assistance of the reelection campaign if and when necessary. "We'll hurt you if you don't vote for Trump" is aimed at helping Biden. Sure. But Keyboard Jockey and Dogwalker Deluxe want to discuss laptops left in a pizza joint in Rehoboth or something.
With another term, imagine the next FBI Director...willing to take orders to investigate for prosecution Trump's political adversaries, the media, etc.
seacoaster
Posts: 8866
Joined: Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:36 pm

Re: The Politics of National Security

Post by seacoaster »

MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:19 am
seacoaster wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:53 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:41 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:10 am One of the funniest lines of the year.

“We have already seen Iran sending spoofed emails, designed to intimidate voters, incite social unrest and damage President Trump,” said John Ratcliffe, the director of national intelligence.
Yup, emails threatening Dem voters that if they vote for Biden the Proud Boys are coming for them...are 'designed to'... 'damage President Trump'...???? :roll: :roll: :roll:

FBI Director doesn't agree, but he's a dead man walking...
This was understood when Ratcliffe was nominated by Duce: that he would bend the power of his agency to the assistance of the reelection campaign if and when necessary. "We'll hurt you if you don't vote for Trump" is aimed at helping Biden. Sure. But Keyboard Jockey and Dogwalker Deluxe want to discuss laptops left in a pizza joint in Rehoboth or something.
With another term, imagine the next FBI Director...willing to take orders to investigate for prosecution Trump's political adversaries, the media, etc.
I’ve been imagining it for over two years, and pieces of the bad dream keep coming true. It is remarkable to me that people supposedly supporting the rule of law cannot see the inevitable direction Trump will take if untethered by electoral consequences. We won’t recover, or, if we do, it’ll take generations.
kramerica.inc
Posts: 6383
Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:01 pm

Re: The Politics of National Security

Post by kramerica.inc »

cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:24 am My biggest question, they had to break into our TVs with a special report to share this with us? :roll:
Gotta let people know, something "dangerous" might have been sent to 25,000 people's junk email accounts!

:o
kramerica.inc
Posts: 6383
Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:01 pm

Re: The Politics of National Security

Post by kramerica.inc »

seacoaster wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:49 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:19 am
seacoaster wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:53 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:41 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:10 am One of the funniest lines of the year.

“We have already seen Iran sending spoofed emails, designed to intimidate voters, incite social unrest and damage President Trump,” said John Ratcliffe, the director of national intelligence.
Yup, emails threatening Dem voters that if they vote for Biden the Proud Boys are coming for them...are 'designed to'... 'damage President Trump'...???? :roll: :roll: :roll:

FBI Director doesn't agree, but he's a dead man walking...
This was understood when Ratcliffe was nominated by Duce: that he would bend the power of his agency to the assistance of the reelection campaign if and when necessary. "We'll hurt you if you don't vote for Trump" is aimed at helping Biden. Sure. But Keyboard Jockey and Dogwalker Deluxe want to discuss laptops left in a pizza joint in Rehoboth or something.
With another term, imagine the next FBI Director...willing to take orders to investigate for prosecution Trump's political adversaries, the media, etc.
I’ve been imagining it for over two years, and pieces of the bad dream keep coming true. It is remarkable to me that people supposedly supporting the rule of law cannot see the inevitable direction Trump will take if untethered by electoral consequences. We won’t recover, or, if we do, it’ll take generations.
Melodramatic much?
seacoaster
Posts: 8866
Joined: Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:36 pm

Re: The Politics of National Security

Post by seacoaster »

kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:22 am
seacoaster wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:49 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:19 am
seacoaster wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:53 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:41 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:10 am One of the funniest lines of the year.

“We have already seen Iran sending spoofed emails, designed to intimidate voters, incite social unrest and damage President Trump,” said John Ratcliffe, the director of national intelligence.
Yup, emails threatening Dem voters that if they vote for Biden the Proud Boys are coming for them...are 'designed to'... 'damage President Trump'...???? :roll: :roll: :roll:

FBI Director doesn't agree, but he's a dead man walking...
This was understood when Ratcliffe was nominated by Duce: that he would bend the power of his agency to the assistance of the reelection campaign if and when necessary. "We'll hurt you if you don't vote for Trump" is aimed at helping Biden. Sure. But Keyboard Jockey and Dogwalker Deluxe want to discuss laptops left in a pizza joint in Rehoboth or something.
With another term, imagine the next FBI Director...willing to take orders to investigate for prosecution Trump's political adversaries, the media, etc.
I’ve been imagining it for over two years, and pieces of the bad dream keep coming true. It is remarkable to me that people supposedly supporting the rule of law cannot see the inevitable direction Trump will take if untethered by electoral consequences. We won’t recover, or, if we do, it’ll take generations.
Melodramatic much?
Maybe. I sort of hope so. But I don’t think so. If you list the norms that have been obliterated over the past few years, it is hard to imagine a scenario under which Trump doesn’t, in a second term, do permanent damage to the polity. Just my opinion. You seem sanguine about, you know, whatever happens. So you have that going for you.
foreverlax
Posts: 3219
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:21 pm

Re: The Politics of National Security

Post by foreverlax »

old salt wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:29 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:49 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:47 pm Good to see the indictments BEFORE the election this go 'round. Well Done AG Barr !
+1
Well keyboard spooks, what do ya think about DNI Ratcliffe now ?

I wonder if John Sipher & the rest of his washed up, out of the loop, partisan hack colleagues approve of warning the voters before the election, rather than using it as an excuse after losing.

Joy Reid fulminates about Proud Boy voter intimidation emails in her lead-in to the DNI & FBI Director,
who warn us about bogus emails from Iran & Russia,

Joy Reid then sniffs that he didn't mention the Proud Boys, then she brings on Clint Watts who says the Proud Boys emails look to be an Iranian false flag op, :lol: ...prompting a circular b!tch session with Reid, Val Demings, & Malcom Nance that the Trump Admin doesn't name the Proud Boys enough.

Then Nasty Natasha Bertrand comes on & says it's odd & doesn't seem urgent, but notes that it's more than "the government did in 2016."

...they can't take yes for an answer without throwing shade on the Trump Admin.

{lengthy excerpt for the benefit of non-subscribers}
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technolo ... s-florida/

U.S. government concludes Iran was behind threatening emails sent to Democrats

The deceptive campaign made use of an Internet domain associated with the far-right Proud Boys
Ratcliffe says Iran and Russia are taking actions to influence 2020 election

The U.S. government has concluded that Iran was behind a series of threatening emails arriving this week in the inboxes of Democratic voters, according to two U.S. officials.

Department of Homeland Security officials told state and local election administrators on a call Wednesday that a foreign government was responsible for the online barrage, according to the U.S. officials and state and local authorities who participated in the call, who all spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the matter’s sensitivity. A DHS official also said authorities had detected holes in state and local election websites and instructed those participating to patch their online services.

The emails claimed to be from the Proud Boys, a far-right group supportive of President Trump, but appeared instead to be a deceptive campaign making use of a vulnerability in the organization’s online network.

First divulged on Tuesday by local law enforcement and elections officials in Florida and Alaska, the emails were soon turned over to federal authorities, according to U.S. officials.

The messages appeared to target Democrats using data from digital databases known as “voter files,” some of which are commercially available. They told recipients the Proud Boys were “in possession of all your information” and instructed voters to change their party registration and cast their ballots for Trump.

By suggesting the group had gained access to privileged data, and also possibly penetrated electronic systems to detect how people were voting, the emails seemed designed to create the appearance of an election breach, said cybersecurity researchers. Such a move may serve to undermine confidence in the integrity of the democratic process without posing a genuine risk to the election, these researchers said.

“You will vote for Trump on Election Day or we will come after you,” warned the emails, which by Tuesday night were said to have reached voters in as many as four states, three of them hotly contested swing states in the coming presidential election.

The domain enlisted for the misleading operation, officialproudboys.com, was recently dropped by a hosting company that uses Google Cloud services, according to Google Cloud spokesman Ted Ladd. Without a secure host, the domain stood vulnerable to exploitation, cybersecurity experts said. Voters using Comcast, Yahoo and Gmail accounts were affected.

In addition to reports from Florida and Alaska, a voter in Pennsylvania told The Washington Post she had received one such email, though she suspected it may have been linked to her previous registration in Alaska. The Pennsylvania attorney general’s office had not received reports about the messages, a spokesman, Mark Shade, said Wednesday.

Kristen Clarke, president and executive director of the national Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, said her organization had received at least one report that a similar email had reached a voter in Arizona. The Arizona secretary of state’s office was looking into the matter, said a spokeswoman, Sophia Solis.

Enrique Tarrio, the chairman of the Proud Boys and the Florida state director of Latinos for Trump, denied involvement, saying the group operates two sites, and was increasingly migrating away from the domain used in the email campaign.

Trump’s debate comments give an online boost to a group social media companies have long struggled against

“Two weeks ago, I believe, we had Google Cloud services drop us from their platform, so then we initiated a url transfer, which is still in process,” he said in an interview. “We kind of just never used it.”

The technical data embedded in the emails did not make immediately apparent who was behind the messages. But metadata gathered from dozens of the emails pointed to the use of servers in Saudi Arabia, Estonia, Singapore and the United Arab Emirates, according to numerous analysts.

“It’s clearly organized and very much planned,” said Rita Katz, executive director of SITE Intelligence Group.

Democrats in Alachua County, in north-central Florida, began receiving the messages on Tuesday morning, according to interviews with several recipients. So, too, did voters in Alaska, said Casey Steinau, chair of the Alaska Democratic Party. Her communications director, Jeanne Devon, said Tuesday night that the FBI “is now involved in the investigation.” A spokeswoman for the bureau’s Anchorage field office did not respond to a request for comment.

“This is absolutely something to be concerned about,” said John Scott-Railton, a senior researcher at the Citizen Lab at the University of Toronto’s Munk School of Global Affairs and Public Policy. “This is what election interference looks like.” He said he knew of a threatening email reaching a voter in Pennsylvania.

Scott-Railton also said one email he had viewed included a link to a video — earlier reported by Vice — showing Trump making disparaging comments about mail-in voting, followed by a logo with the name of the Proud Boys. It then documented what was made to appear as a hack of voting data in an effort to produce a fraudulent ballot. The video was also posted on a Twitter account that has since been suspended.

Even as the president sows doubt about mail balloting, federal law enforcement officials as well as election administrators have underscored the security of the process, which has been routine in some states for years. They also have warned about possible disinformation designed to create the appearance of fraud or to stoke fears of voter intimidation — which itself threatens to keep voters away from the polls.

The Justice Department issued a statement on Wednesday saying it was “aware of reports that threatening correspondence referencing the current election” have been sent to people in several states. It said it could neither confirm nor deny any investigation and said, “if appropriate, the department will prosecute any civil or criminal violation to the fullest extent of the law.”

Christopher C. Krebs, director of DHS’s Security’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, wrote in a tweet on Tuesday that his office was aware of the emails, noting, “Ballot secrecy is guaranteed by law in all states.”

“These emails are meant to intimidate and undermine American voters’ confidence in our elections,” he added.

Some cybersecurity experts said foreign involvement should be expected.

“We’re still reviewing it, but it wouldn’t be unheard of for a foreign actor to impersonate political figures or organizations,” said John Hultquist, senior director of analysis for Mandiant Threat Intelligence. “It could be a form of voter intimidation or it could be meant to inject discord into an already fragile process.”

Tarrio, determined to beat back the perception of involvement by the Proud Boys, said he had spoken to an FBI agent about the episode. Amanda Videll, a spokeswoman for the bureau in Jacksonville, Fla., declined to comment.

Bennett Ragan, campaign manager for a Democratic State House candidate in Gainesville, Fla., said he received two of the threatening messages on his Gmail account and knows of at least 10 other similar emails that had reached friends or associates. He said the home address cited in the emails he received could have come only from a Florida voters’ roll from 2018 because he has moved several times in recent years.

Ragan said he believed the purpose was to intimidate Democratic voters in a swing state with hotly contested races up and down the ballot on Nov. 3.

“When you have people who have a voter roll and then send off emails, they will make a big splash. They will scare people. That is without a doubt the intent,” he said.

The hosting service that previously carried the Proud Boys domain canceled the registration after Google Cloud notified the customer that a nonprofit group had raised concerns about the controversial organization, said Ladd, the Google Cloud spokesman.

Following the action from the hosting service, the domain appears to have been left unsecured, allowing anyone on the Internet to take control of it and use it to send out the menacing messages, said Trevor Davis, CEO of CounterAction, a Washington-based digital intelligence firm.

The lapse, which began on Oct. 8, “likely made them vulnerable to this kind of hijacking,” Davis said. “Bad actors are constantly scanning the Internet for opportunities. Given the public profile of the Proud Boys and the likelihood that whoever’s sending these emails has access to a voter file, this appears to be opportunism.”

An Internet Protocol (IP) address associated with metadata in at least one email had previously been reported, pointing to its likely use in scam or phishing operations, said Cindy Otis, a former CIA analyst and vice president of analysis for Alethea Group, an organization combating online threats and misinformation.

The Proud Boys rose to national prominence last month during the first presidential debate between Trump and his Democratic rival, Joe Biden, when the president passed up an invitation by moderator Chris Wallace, of Fox News, to denounce White supremacists. When Biden suggested that Trump denounce the Proud Boys, he said they should “stand back and stand by” — a comment that was widely celebrated on social media by the group as a call to action.

The Proud Boys: How the right-wing extremist group gained prominence
During the first presidential debate Sept. 29, President Trump told the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by.” Here’s why they are defined as a hate group. (Allie Caren/The Washington Post)
Memes circulated online with the words integrated into the Proud Boys logo. One doctored image showed Trump wearing one of the Proud Boys’ signature polo shirts. Another online poster used the moment to advertise T-shirts and hoodies bearing the group’s logo and the words “PROUD BOYS STANDING BY.”

The group’s leaders say they do not support White supremacy, but they had a contingent at 2017’s notorious Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville. The Proud Boys also have been frequent participants in the protests demonstrating against coronavirus shutdowns and, more recently, the protests in Portland, Ore. Facebook has banned the group as a hate group, and the Southern Poverty Law Center classifies it as a hate group and says its leaders “regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists.”
What to think....Radcliff is still a partisan hack who is well under qualified for his current political appointment.
User avatar
MDlaxfan76
Posts: 27113
Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:40 pm

Re: The Politics of National Security

Post by MDlaxfan76 »

seacoaster wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:31 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:22 am
seacoaster wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:49 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:19 am
seacoaster wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:53 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:41 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:10 am One of the funniest lines of the year.

“We have already seen Iran sending spoofed emails, designed to intimidate voters, incite social unrest and damage President Trump,” said John Ratcliffe, the director of national intelligence.
Yup, emails threatening Dem voters that if they vote for Biden the Proud Boys are coming for them...are 'designed to'... 'damage President Trump'...???? :roll: :roll: :roll:

FBI Director doesn't agree, but he's a dead man walking...
This was understood when Ratcliffe was nominated by Duce: that he would bend the power of his agency to the assistance of the reelection campaign if and when necessary. "We'll hurt you if you don't vote for Trump" is aimed at helping Biden. Sure. But Keyboard Jockey and Dogwalker Deluxe want to discuss laptops left in a pizza joint in Rehoboth or something.
With another term, imagine the next FBI Director...willing to take orders to investigate for prosecution Trump's political adversaries, the media, etc.
I’ve been imagining it for over two years, and pieces of the bad dream keep coming true. It is remarkable to me that people supposedly supporting the rule of law cannot see the inevitable direction Trump will take if untethered by electoral consequences. We won’t recover, or, if we do, it’ll take generations.
Melodramatic much?
Maybe. I sort of hope so. But I don’t think so. If you list the norms that have been obliterated over the past few years, it is hard to imagine a scenario under which Trump doesn’t, in a second term, do permanent damage to the polity. Just my opinion. You seem sanguine about, you know, whatever happens. So you have that going for you.
Must be nice.
User avatar
MDlaxfan76
Posts: 27113
Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:40 pm

Re: The Politics of National Security

Post by MDlaxfan76 »

kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:20 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:24 am My biggest question, they had to break into our TVs with a special report to share this with us? :roll:
Gotta let people know, something "dangerous" might have been sent to 25,000 people's junk email accounts!

:o
To let people know that there are bad people out there, foreigners! Muslims!, out to "damage" our beleaguered and beloved POTUS, who needs your votes...
User avatar
cradleandshoot
Posts: 15476
Joined: Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:42 pm

Re: The Politics of National Security

Post by cradleandshoot »

MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:43 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:20 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:24 am My biggest question, they had to break into our TVs with a special report to share this with us? :roll:
Gotta let people know, something "dangerous" might have been sent to 25,000 people's junk email accounts!

:o
To let people know that there are bad people out there, foreigners! Muslims!, out to "damage" our beleaguered and beloved POTUS, who needs your votes...
To that end they can justify interrupting Mr Alex Trebek and Jeopardy 🤬
We don't make mistakes, we have happy accidents.
Bob Ross:
kramerica.inc
Posts: 6383
Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:01 pm

Re: The Politics of National Security

Post by kramerica.inc »

seacoaster wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:31 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:22 am
seacoaster wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:49 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:19 am
seacoaster wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:53 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:41 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:10 am One of the funniest lines of the year.

“We have already seen Iran sending spoofed emails, designed to intimidate voters, incite social unrest and damage President Trump,” said John Ratcliffe, the director of national intelligence.
Yup, emails threatening Dem voters that if they vote for Biden the Proud Boys are coming for them...are 'designed to'... 'damage President Trump'...???? :roll: :roll: :roll:

FBI Director doesn't agree, but he's a dead man walking...
This was understood when Ratcliffe was nominated by Duce: that he would bend the power of his agency to the assistance of the reelection campaign if and when necessary. "We'll hurt you if you don't vote for Trump" is aimed at helping Biden. Sure. But Keyboard Jockey and Dogwalker Deluxe want to discuss laptops left in a pizza joint in Rehoboth or something.
With another term, imagine the next FBI Director...willing to take orders to investigate for prosecution Trump's political adversaries, the media, etc.
I’ve been imagining it for over two years, and pieces of the bad dream keep coming true. It is remarkable to me that people supposedly supporting the rule of law cannot see the inevitable direction Trump will take if untethered by electoral consequences. We won’t recover, or, if we do, it’ll take generations.
Melodramatic much?
Maybe. I sort of hope so. But I don’t think so. If you list the norms that have been obliterated over the past few years, it is hard to imagine a scenario under which Trump doesn’t, in a second term, do permanent damage to the polity. Just my opinion. You seem sanguine about, you know, whatever happens. So you have that going for you.
...Which is nice...

I was like , "HEY, Llama, how bout a little something for the effort?!"

:lol:
seacoaster
Posts: 8866
Joined: Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:36 pm

Re: The Politics of National Security

Post by seacoaster »

kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:26 am
seacoaster wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:31 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:22 am
seacoaster wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:49 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:19 am
seacoaster wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:53 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:41 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:10 am One of the funniest lines of the year.

“We have already seen Iran sending spoofed emails, designed to intimidate voters, incite social unrest and damage President Trump,” said John Ratcliffe, the director of national intelligence.
Yup, emails threatening Dem voters that if they vote for Biden the Proud Boys are coming for them...are 'designed to'... 'damage President Trump'...???? :roll: :roll: :roll:

FBI Director doesn't agree, but he's a dead man walking...
This was understood when Ratcliffe was nominated by Duce: that he would bend the power of his agency to the assistance of the reelection campaign if and when necessary. "We'll hurt you if you don't vote for Trump" is aimed at helping Biden. Sure. But Keyboard Jockey and Dogwalker Deluxe want to discuss laptops left in a pizza joint in Rehoboth or something.
With another term, imagine the next FBI Director...willing to take orders to investigate for prosecution Trump's political adversaries, the media, etc.
I’ve been imagining it for over two years, and pieces of the bad dream keep coming true. It is remarkable to me that people supposedly supporting the rule of law cannot see the inevitable direction Trump will take if untethered by electoral consequences. We won’t recover, or, if we do, it’ll take generations.
Melodramatic much?
Maybe. I sort of hope so. But I don’t think so. If you list the norms that have been obliterated over the past few years, it is hard to imagine a scenario under which Trump doesn’t, in a second term, do permanent damage to the polity. Just my opinion. You seem sanguine about, you know, whatever happens. So you have that going for you.
...Which is nice...

I was like , "HEY, Llama, how bout a little something for the effort?!"

:lol:
"Check me if I'm wrong, Sandy, but if I kill all the golfers, they're gonna lock me up and throw away the key..."
Post Reply

Return to “POLITICS”