CU88 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:49 pm
Here you go gang.
Before any media outlet or American citizen gives Steve Bannon's smear campaign against the Bidens even a minute of consideration, please remember that he is currently charged with Fraud.
Now he's working with Russian disinformation to smear Trump's opponent.
I think the other side of this is more scary, that is, if Biden is elected and it is found that the stuff on the laptop is true.
CU88 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:49 pm
Here you go gang.
Before any media outlet or American citizen gives Steve Bannon's smear campaign against the Bidens even a minute of consideration, please remember that he is currently charged with Fraud.
Now he's working with Russian disinformation to smear Trump's opponent.
I think the other side of this is more scary, that is, if Biden is elected and it is found that the stuff on the laptop is true.
MANHATTAN (CN) – A woman who says Donald Trump raped her at a private sex party when she was 13 years old refiled a lawsuit against him Friday, two weeks after voluntarily dismissing a suit based on the same claims. The new complaint, filed in the federal court in Manhattan, restates plaintiff Jane Doe’s claims of the earlier lawsuit. Namely, that she was lured by a recruiter to summer parties hosted by co-defendant Jeffrey Epstein at an Upper East Side mansion on East 71st St., tied to a bed and forcibly raped by Trump, who slapped her with an open hand and told her he would do whatever he pleased with her.
Jane Does goes on to claim that after Epstein also forcibly raped her, he and Trump bickered over who should have taken the minor plaintiff’s virginity. The original complaint was accompanied by two declarations. The first declaration, signed by Jane Doe herself, detailed Trump’s alleged “savage sexual attack” on the then-13-year-old plaintiff. The second declaration was signed by pseudonymous Tiffany Doe, who said she was hired by Jeffrey Epstein throughout the 1990s to recruit adolescent women to attend the billionaire’s parties.
Tiffany Doe claims she convinced the then-13-year-old plaintiff to attend the parties as a means to break in to New York’s professional modeling world. In her declaration, Tiffany Doe says she witnessed four sexual encounters in which Jane Doe was forced to have sex with Trump, and two encounters involving the plaintiff and Jeffrey Epstein.
The Tiffany Doe declaration included Epstein’s threats against her and her family for disclosing the details of any sexual abuse of minors by Epstein and his party guests, swearing under penalty of perjury that she understands that her and her family’s lives are “now in grave danger.”
The new complaint includes an additional witness exhibit from an anonymous “Joan Doe” whose sworn declaration says Jane Doe told her what happened with Trump and Epstein during the 1994-1995 school year.
Jane Doe says she has been subjected to painful daily reminders of the alleged assault due to the tremendous about of media coverage Trump’s presidential campaign has received since he announced his candidacy in mid-June 2015.
Representatives of Trump and his campaign could not immediately be reached for comment on Friday. However, two weeks ago Alan Garten, executive vice president and general counsel for the Trump Organization, told Courthouse News via email that Jane Doe’s allegations “are completely frivolous and appear to be politically motivated.”
He also went on to say the Trump Organization warned her lawyer, New Jersey attorney Thomas Meagher, “that in the event he decides to refile his complaint we will seek to have him sanctioned.”
Perhaps in anticipation of such a move, a second attorney has joined the lawsuit, J. Cheney Mason of Florida.
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:12 pm
You think the techno geeks at the FBI could not determine if the laptop was a fake? Vlad is smart enough to blow smoke up the FBI s rear end? It may be a dirty trick. If you want to tell me the FBI can't figure it out after 10 months, I find that hard to believe.
I'm saying: pretend it is his laptop. How do they know who put stuff on it? They'd have to interview Hunter and work out timelines. Otherwise, ANYONE could have put stuff on that hard drive.
They haven't done that so far as I'm aware. And if I had to guess, the reason that they haven't is that this is a nothing burger, and they don't care.
6ftstick wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:54 am
You OK out there
Fires in Colorado far enough away from you?
Thanks for asking. Most people in CO live at the end of the plains -- the so-called Front Range (Co Springs, Denver, Boulder, Ft. Collins). And the main impact of the fires is up in the smaller mountain towns. So quite bad up there, but not a danger to most residents.
But the wildfire smoke up in Boulder was beyond crazy on Friday.
The winds were high and they were funneling the smoke directly into town. In about an hour, it went from crisp blue sky to raining ash and mid-afternoon darkness. Looked like the apocalypse. On that afternoon, Boulder supposedly had the worst air quality of any city on planet earth -- worse than anyplace in India, China or Pakistan.
Very unusual to have fires burning out here in mid-October -- fire season typically is over by Labor Day. Snow is coming -- so the fires will be out soon.
Check out the picture below of what Friday night lights looked like in town -- that's smoke not clouds.
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:12 pm
You think the techno geeks at the FBI could not determine if the laptop was a fake? Vlad is smart enough to blow smoke up the FBI s rear end? It may be a dirty trick. If you want to tell me the FBI can't figure it out after 10 months, I find that hard to believe.
I'm saying: pretend it is his laptop. How do they know who put stuff on it? They'd have to interview Hunter and work out timelines. Otherwise, ANYONE could have put stuff on that hard drive.
They haven't done that so far as I'm aware. And if I had to guess, the reason that they haven't is that this is a nothing burger, and they don't care.
How do you get a rational answer from Hunter? From all indications he lived a good part of that time in a blackout. I may be wrong but drunks are not all that reliable when asking them about details. They usually will know that 2am is closing time. I would LOVE to be a fly on the wall when they interview Hunter. He will probably resemble Foster Brooks on a good night. Just for kicks and giggles a fan. I am wondering if you could remember off the top of your head something on your laptop from 6 years ago in a timeline detail? I am just asking for a friend. i am not a computer geek but i know one thing. If you are attempting to backburn information onto a laptop you better be pretty damn good. If you can do so and fool the FBI then however much you are being paid is not enough.
We don't make mistakes, we have happy accidents.
Bob Ross:
CU88 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:49 pm
Here you go gang.
Before any media outlet or American citizen gives Steve Bannon's smear campaign against the Bidens even a minute of consideration, please remember that he is currently charged with Fraud.
Now he's working with Russian disinformation to smear Trump's opponent.
I think the other side of this is more scary, that is, if Biden is elected and it is found that the stuff on the laptop is true.
Get back to me when you have Hunter’s fingerprints on the laptop or can authenticate any of the emails that allegedly implicate Joe.
The FBI has had the laptop since January I think.
Have they told us all it isn't Hunters.
Joes locked down til Thursday. Coincidence?
How do you know that? The FBI has not commented.
The FBI is not going to comment. Nor should they. They learned their lesson from 2016.
That report is from the New York Post. Assuming it is accurate, I imagine he is preparing for the debate.
Other than this being a despicable defamatory slam on his son, I am sure Joe isn’t concerned at all about Rudy’s latest escapade. It’s entirely a fabrication. A last gasp attempt by Trump to change the narrative.
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:32 pm
If you can do so and fool the FBI then however much you are being paid is not enough.
Well, if anyone can do it.....it's Russia.
This sounds too clumsy and stupid for Russia. The whole story is just dumb. Hunter unethically made money off of daddy's coattails.
We already know that. Move on. OS is right about one thing: if there was criminal stuff on the thing, and it was Hunters, he'd have been arrested months ago. At this point, this is just a political football, and a stupid one at that....
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:12 pm
You think the techno geeks at the FBI could not determine if the laptop was a fake? Vlad is smart enough to blow smoke up the FBI s rear end? It may be a dirty trick. If you want to tell me the FBI can't figure it out after 10 months, I find that hard to believe.
I'm saying: pretend it is his laptop. How do they know who put stuff on it? They'd have to interview Hunter and work out timelines. Otherwise, ANYONE could have put stuff on that hard drive.
They haven't done that so far as I'm aware. And if I had to guess, the reason that they haven't is that this is a nothing burger, and they don't care.
"I'm saying: pretend it is his laptop. How do they know who put stuff on it?"
This is just a wild guess but it might be possible that Hunter put it on there. If he was smart enough to have any sort of VPN protection and a solid password even on my piddly ass laptop hacking it would not be worth the effort. You ask a solid question, how do they know who may have put it on there? I guess you have to rule out Hunter as a possibility? Everybody on this forum knows it could not have been him. I wonder if the FBI dusted it for Vlads fingerprints.
We don't make mistakes, we have happy accidents.
Bob Ross:
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:32 pm
If you can do so and fool the FBI then however much you are being paid is not enough.
Well, if anyone can do it.....it's Russia.
This sounds too clumsy and stupid for Russia. The whole story is just dumb. Hunter unethically made money off of daddy's coattails.
We already know that. Move on. OS is right about one thing: if there was criminal stuff on the thing, and it was Hunters, he'd have been arrested months ago. At this point, this is just a political football, and a stupid one at that....
You make a damn good point. It would have been easy peasy for the FBI to say as much months ago. I find it hard to believe that it would have taken the FBI more than a few days to figure it out. Why they have sat on what they know is the fuel for all the wild speculation we are engaging in today. Maybe the folks at the FBI know and understand how so many Americans love engaging in this sort of crazy talk. They just want to have some fun with all of us.
We don't make mistakes, we have happy accidents.
Bob Ross:
Cra -- The terrorists win if you talk about Hunter's laptop.
And 1000% certain that Wray/FBI will not take the bait either. They are literally prohibited by DOJ policy to speak. Even Barr (!!!) is mum on this so far.
The whole reason why Rudy and Bannon and Hannity threw this poop out now is exactly because they know the FBI is in the mandated "quiet period." So the BS can't be officially debunked. Were you in a cryo capsule in October 2016 when Comey was talking about Weiner's laptop? The Trumpers are just throwing around poop in the hope of changing the narrative. Shiny keys over here!!!
Best thing to do is let the BS die of its own weight. Sometime after the election it will all be fact checked and made clear.
Besides, what undecideds are left who might possibly be swayed by this? Hunter Biden sex tape!! Hunter Biden has kiddie porn on his computer!! Joe should just say nothing other than "vote vote vote vote" for the next two weeks.
But I'm sure Trump will be in poop flinging mode on Thursday.
Boycott stupid. If you ignore the gator troll, eventually he'll just go back under his bridge.
ggait wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:51 pm
Cra -- The terrorists win if you talk about Hunter's laptop.
And 1000% certain that Wray/FBI will not take the bait either. They are literally prohibited by DOJ policy to speak. Even Barr (!!!) is mum on this so far.
The whole reason why Rudy and Bannon and Hannity threw this poop out now is exactly because they know the FBI is in the mandated "quiet period." So the BS can't be officially debunked. Were you in a cryo capsule in October 2016 when Comey was talking about Weiner's laptop? The Trumpers are just throwing around poop in the hope of changing the narrative. Shiny keys over here!!!
Best thing to do is let the BS die of its own weight. Sometime after the election it will all be fact checked and made clear.
Besides, what undecideds are left who might possibly be swayed by this? Hunter Biden sex tape!! Hunter Biden has kiddie porn on his computer!! Joe should just say nothing other than "vote vote vote vote" for the next two weeks.
But I'm sure Trump will be in poop flinging mode on Thursday.
The only fly in your ointment is if the laptop really is Hunters and there really is some compromising stuff on it. It won't die down it will be a whole new chitstorm directed at the FBI. Then the accusation against the FBI will be allegations of a cover up. If that happens if and when double barrel Joe wins you will breath a huge sigh of relief. Then the possibility of any investigation is handed over to double barrel joe's DOJ.. Where it goes to wither and die on the vine. Either way the FBI finds itself in a tight spot. I just find it odd that the feds have been in possession of this laptop for quite awhile. This mess could have been sorted out long before Biden was ever the Democrat candidate.
We don't make mistakes, we have happy accidents.
Bob Ross:
ggait wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:51 pm
Cra -- The terrorists win if you talk about Hunter's laptop.
And 1000% certain that Wray/FBI will not take the bait either. They are literally prohibited by DOJ policy to speak. Even Barr (!!!) is mum on this so far.
The whole reason why Rudy and Bannon and Hannity threw this poop out now is exactly because they know the FBI is in the mandated "quiet period." So the BS can't be officially debunked. Were you in a cryo capsule in October 2016 when Comey was talking about Weiner's laptop? The Trumpers are just throwing around poop in the hope of changing the narrative. Shiny keys over here!!!
Best thing to do is let the BS die of its own weight. Sometime after the election it will all be fact checked and made clear.
Besides, what undecideds are left who might possibly be swayed by this? Hunter Biden sex tape!! Hunter Biden has kiddie porn on his computer!! Joe should just say nothing other than "vote vote vote vote" for the next two weeks.
But I'm sure Trump will be in poop flinging mode on Thursday.
if joe both denies it and says the word "porn" or "pornography", i'm giving him the debate.
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:22 pm
The only fly in your ointment is if the laptop really is Hunters and there really is some compromising stuff on it. It won't die down it will be a whole new chitstorm directed at the FBI. Then the accusation against the FBI will be allegations of a cover up. If that happens if and when double barrel Joe wins you will breath a huge sigh of relief. Then the possibility of any investigation is handed over to double barrel joe's DOJ.. Where it goes to wither and die on the vine. Either way the FBI finds itself in a tight spot. I just find it odd that the feds have been in possession of this laptop for quite awhile. This mess could have been sorted out long before Biden was ever the Democrat candidate.
You claim not to be a Trumpist but all of your posts, including this one, say otherwise. I have no problem with you being a Trump supporter, just your occasional attempts to suggest otherwise.
How do you know the FBI has the laptop? Because Rudy said so? Oh, OK.
Die down? It has never flared up, except in Trump world. You may have noticed that legitimate journalists are, by and large, ignoring this story. As they should since it is obviously fabricated.
Again, where are Hunter’s fingerprints on the laptop? Where is any proof authenticating the emails that allegedly implicate Joe? Get back to me when you have anything of substance.
No, the FBI should not say anything. They should not even confirm that they don’t have the laptop. 2016 was an aberration. They have learned from their mistake.
Everybody on this forum knows it could not have been him. I wonder if the FBI dusted it for Vlads fingerprints. 
