I never knew he went for drag queens. He liked the perfume it appears.jusreLaxin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:12 pmIt looks like his hair styling budget would only allow him to afford a Mullet? I'm guessing sub 50K...cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:20 amLMFAO...that is too funny...holmes435 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:33 amYou never know who is going to be a #ProudBoycradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:54 amI'm betting you just have a hidden desire to wear pantyhose and a skirt.
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We don't make mistakes, we have happy accidents.
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Joe likes it too!cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:20 amLMFAO...that is too funny...holmes435 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:33 amYou never know who is going to be a #ProudBoycradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:54 amI'm betting you just have a hidden desire to wear pantyhose and a skirt.
If we need that extra push over the cliff, ya know what we do...eleven, exactly.
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Come on Nigel... GIVE ME A BREAK MAN.Nigel wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:54 pmJoe likes it too!cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:20 amLMFAO...that is too funny...holmes435 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:33 amYou never know who is going to be a #ProudBoycradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:54 amI'm betting you just have a hidden desire to wear pantyhose and a skirt.
We don't make mistakes, we have happy accidents.
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REPUBLICANS BE PROUD!
STAND AGAINST FASCISM
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Since no suspect has been found and arrested for all you know it was some FLP wanker that was offended because she wasn't wearing a mask?jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:23 pm Republicans, BE PROUD, of your homophobia, bigotry and misogyny.
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cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:33 amSince no suspect has been found and arrested for all you know it was some FLP wanker that was offended because she wasn't wearing a mask?jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:23 pm Republicans, BE PROUD, of your homophobia, bigotry and misogyny.
Let JHU believe.
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I forgot...don't feed the troll..Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:01 pmcradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:33 amSince no suspect has been found and arrested for all you know it was some FLP wanker that was offended because she wasn't wearing a mask?jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:23 pm Republicans, BE PROUD, of your homophobia, bigotry and misogyny.
Let JHU believe.
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How stupid will Dems get about Amy Coney Barrett next week?
I predict one will fake a heart attack to delay proceedings
I predict one will fake a heart attack to delay proceedings
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Which side of the fence?
If you ever wondered which side of the fence you sit on, this is a great test!
If a Republican doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a Democrat doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.
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If a Republican is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat;
If a Democrat is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.
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If a Republican is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.;
If a Democrat is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
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If a Republican is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
If a Democrat is down-and-out he wonders who is going to take care of him.
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If a Republican doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
A Democrat demands that those they don't like be shut down.
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If a Republican is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A Democrat non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced.
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If a Republican decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
If a Democrat decides he needs health care, he demands that the rest of us pay for his.
If a Republican is unhappy with an election, he grumbles and goes to work the next day.
If a Democrat is unhappy with an election, he burns down a Starbucks, throws rocks at cops and takes two-weeks off for therapy.
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If a Republican reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A Democrat will delete it because they are "offended."
If you ever wondered which side of the fence you sit on, this is a great test!
If a Republican doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a Democrat doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.
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If a Republican is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat;
If a Democrat is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.
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If a Republican is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.;
If a Democrat is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
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If a Republican is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
If a Democrat is down-and-out he wonders who is going to take care of him.
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If a Republican doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
A Democrat demands that those they don't like be shut down.
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If a Republican is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A Democrat non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced.
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If a Republican decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
If a Democrat decides he needs health care, he demands that the rest of us pay for his.
If a Republican is unhappy with an election, he grumbles and goes to work the next day.
If a Democrat is unhappy with an election, he burns down a Starbucks, throws rocks at cops and takes two-weeks off for therapy.
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If a Republican reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A Democrat will delete it because they are "offended."
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Please Boycott Stupid.
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Peter Brown wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:58 am Which side of the fence?
If you ever wondered which side of the fence you sit on, this is a great test!
If a Republican doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a Democrat doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.
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If a Republican is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat;
If a Democrat is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.
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If a Republican is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.;
If a Democrat is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
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If a Republican is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
If a Democrat is down-and-out he wonders who is going to take care of him.
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If a Republican doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
A Democrat demands that those they don't like be shut down.
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If a Republican is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A Democrat non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced.
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If a Republican decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
If a Democrat decides he needs health care, he demands that the rest of us pay for his.
If a Republican is unhappy with an election, he grumbles and goes to work the next day.
If a Democrat is unhappy with an election, he burns down a Starbucks, throws rocks at cops and takes two-weeks off for therapy.
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If a Republican reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A Democrat will delete it because they are "offended."
Reposting this...it's too good and such a great explainer for anyone to understand why Democrats are clowns.
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A few days ago, MDLaxfan made a post on one of these threads about the resilience of the American system. I can't recall now which thread, but no matter. It was, in my opinion, a really good and thoughtful post, and most of all it was hopeful, focusing on what I think he described as the coming together of the folks in the middle -- the center-leaning Democrats, Independents, and center Republicans -- standing up to the cult of Trump, in a way that no sitting GOP congressional figure has yet to do.
And I basically am buoyed by this as well. But I don't think the Trump affliction will be easily remedied, even if Biden wins the election. The froth off of Trump's breath, and FNC's service in his name, has created a population that is gravely and maybe irrevocably divided. And I am not sure we can cobble back together the manner of doing things that once, not too long ago, constituted basic, hardly questioned norms in our society, in politics, and in the office of the Presidency. Certain, I think if Trump is reelected, those norms will be just pages in history books, and lost to us for good.
It is true that almost as soon as Trump was elected and inaugurated, everyone -- me included, for sure -- chose up sides and caused the shrillest and most obvious divide in my lifetime. But Trump was a cause for concern that Jeb Bush and John Kasich or some other successful nominee of the GOP could never have been. His departure from the normative forms of politics and the Presidency was so large and important, that the division into teams -- the "resistance" and "the cult" -- just doesn't seem so crazy. It is where we were headed anyway, given the blather of talk television and talk radio and the demonization of our political opponents, which was well under way before this particularly crude and corrupt Presidency. I am told, here on these threads, repeatedly, that I hate America, hate the Constitution, and am not a "patriot." I know each of those three things to be untrue, but the fact that my "FLP" sensibility leads folks to shove me off that cliff is telling.
The last nearly four years have desensitized us. We elected a President who believed he could "move on her like a complain." And it has gotten worse from there. Trump's tax issues, his use of the Presidency to built cash flow into his golf clubs and resorts engender little comment from his supporters. His willingness to provide room and comfort to segregationists and white supremacists is now just one of those things. His use of diplomacy as a lever for personal electoral advantage, his diversion of congressionally approved funds to other purposes, his resistance to agreement to a transfer of power should he lose, his constant decrying of the fairness of the electoral process, his claims that it is rigged -- all of these things pass off without consequence, and as a result all of our norms have been torn down. Our sense of common purpose and identity, and the underpinning normative values of truth, adherence to facts, duty, faith in governance, and expertise are all standing at the Rubicon. I sure hope I'm wrong, but I think even if Biden wins, we will have enormous and enormously difficult work to do. If Trump wins, and we go another four years of this frenzied need for loyalty and idolatry, well then we are sunk.
And I basically am buoyed by this as well. But I don't think the Trump affliction will be easily remedied, even if Biden wins the election. The froth off of Trump's breath, and FNC's service in his name, has created a population that is gravely and maybe irrevocably divided. And I am not sure we can cobble back together the manner of doing things that once, not too long ago, constituted basic, hardly questioned norms in our society, in politics, and in the office of the Presidency. Certain, I think if Trump is reelected, those norms will be just pages in history books, and lost to us for good.
It is true that almost as soon as Trump was elected and inaugurated, everyone -- me included, for sure -- chose up sides and caused the shrillest and most obvious divide in my lifetime. But Trump was a cause for concern that Jeb Bush and John Kasich or some other successful nominee of the GOP could never have been. His departure from the normative forms of politics and the Presidency was so large and important, that the division into teams -- the "resistance" and "the cult" -- just doesn't seem so crazy. It is where we were headed anyway, given the blather of talk television and talk radio and the demonization of our political opponents, which was well under way before this particularly crude and corrupt Presidency. I am told, here on these threads, repeatedly, that I hate America, hate the Constitution, and am not a "patriot." I know each of those three things to be untrue, but the fact that my "FLP" sensibility leads folks to shove me off that cliff is telling.
The last nearly four years have desensitized us. We elected a President who believed he could "move on her like a complain." And it has gotten worse from there. Trump's tax issues, his use of the Presidency to built cash flow into his golf clubs and resorts engender little comment from his supporters. His willingness to provide room and comfort to segregationists and white supremacists is now just one of those things. His use of diplomacy as a lever for personal electoral advantage, his diversion of congressionally approved funds to other purposes, his resistance to agreement to a transfer of power should he lose, his constant decrying of the fairness of the electoral process, his claims that it is rigged -- all of these things pass off without consequence, and as a result all of our norms have been torn down. Our sense of common purpose and identity, and the underpinning normative values of truth, adherence to facts, duty, faith in governance, and expertise are all standing at the Rubicon. I sure hope I'm wrong, but I think even if Biden wins, we will have enormous and enormously difficult work to do. If Trump wins, and we go another four years of this frenzied need for loyalty and idolatry, well then we are sunk.
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Agree that if Trump wins we are sunk. I was talking to my cousin yesterday. He said 2016 was Hiroshima. If Trump wins, 2020 will be Nagasaki. I thought that was well put.
My most “optimistic” scenario if Trump wins is that he spends the next four years just lining his pocket and going after his perceived enemies. That will be terrible, of course, but the overall damage to the country will be limited. If, on the other hand, he goes Full Monty and truly tries to rip apart the institutions on which this country was founded and under which it has long prospered, heaven help us. Will the damage be permanent? I don’t think so, but I am concerned about that.
On the brighter side, if we can call it that, if Joe wins, he will have an awful lot of work to do to put the country back together. In fact, he won’t be able to accomplish enough in that regard in the first two years so he will need to retain control of the Senate (assuming, of course, the Ds take the Senate this year) in 2022.
What becomes of the Republican Party is the $64,000 question. Not being a Republican, I am not qualified to hazard a guess. Will the John Kasich/Jeb Bush wing recapture the party? That would be good, but I suspect not.
Who would rise up to lead the party? Wouldn’t surprise me if Trump, himself, tries to do that. He claims he would slink away and play golf if he lost, but I don’t think so. If his health remains decent, it wouldn’t surprise me if he were to try to run again in 2024.
My crystal ball doesn’t extend out that far so I have no idea who would get the Republican nomination in 2024. But, Pete, I hate to break it to you. It won’t be Miss South Dakota.
My most “optimistic” scenario if Trump wins is that he spends the next four years just lining his pocket and going after his perceived enemies. That will be terrible, of course, but the overall damage to the country will be limited. If, on the other hand, he goes Full Monty and truly tries to rip apart the institutions on which this country was founded and under which it has long prospered, heaven help us. Will the damage be permanent? I don’t think so, but I am concerned about that.
On the brighter side, if we can call it that, if Joe wins, he will have an awful lot of work to do to put the country back together. In fact, he won’t be able to accomplish enough in that regard in the first two years so he will need to retain control of the Senate (assuming, of course, the Ds take the Senate this year) in 2022.
What becomes of the Republican Party is the $64,000 question. Not being a Republican, I am not qualified to hazard a guess. Will the John Kasich/Jeb Bush wing recapture the party? That would be good, but I suspect not.
Who would rise up to lead the party? Wouldn’t surprise me if Trump, himself, tries to do that. He claims he would slink away and play golf if he lost, but I don’t think so. If his health remains decent, it wouldn’t surprise me if he were to try to run again in 2024.
My crystal ball doesn’t extend out that far so I have no idea who would get the Republican nomination in 2024. But, Pete, I hate to break it to you. It won’t be Miss South Dakota.
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njbill wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:21 pm Agree that if Trump wins we are sunk. I was talking to my cousin yesterday. He said 2016 was Hiroshima. If Trump wins, 2020 will be Nagasaki. I thought that was well put.
My most “optimistic” scenario if Trump wins is that he spends the next four years just lining his pocket and going after his perceived enemies. That will be terrible, of course, but the overall damage to the country will be limited. If, on the other hand, he goes Full Monty and truly tries to rip apart the institutions on which this country was founded and under which it has long prospered, heaven help us. Will the damage be permanent? I don’t think so, but I am concerned about that.
On the brighter side, if we can call it that, if Joe wins, he will have an awful lot of work to do to put the country back together. In fact, he won’t be able to accomplish enough in that regard in the first two years so he will need to retain control of the Senate (assuming, of course, the Ds take the Senate this year) in 2022.
What becomes of the Republican Party is the $64,000 question. Not being a Republican, I am not qualified to hazard a guess. Will the John Kasich/Jeb Bush wing recapture the party? That would be good, but I suspect not.
Who would rise up to lead the party? Wouldn’t surprise me if Trump, himself, tries to do that. He claims he would slink away and play golf if he lost, but I don’t think so. If his health remains decent, it wouldn’t surprise me if he were to try to run again in 2024.
My crystal ball doesn’t extend out that far so I have no idea who would get the Republican nomination in 2024. But, Pete, I hate to break it to you. It won’t be Miss South Dakota.
Man, this post shows just how badly the media misleads guys who eat their drek up.
First, the party you need to worry about is your own, regardless if Joe wins or loses. Your party is coming apart at the seams, with the majority itching for outright Venezuelan socialism. A minority of the party of which you presumably fit is the legacy brand of the D's, but you are flailing today, unable to drive the direction of the party, held together by a 78 year old dementia riddled candidate. When he goes, nelly bar the door!
Trump is likely to win precisely because of this dynamic; very few FLP's will vote this year, costing Joe big votes in critical states. This is why you will need to cheat as much as possible, to overcome a yawning gap in voter enthusiasm.
So far as the R's, if Trump loses, you won't hear from him relative to the party again. The next leadership stable as of today is the following, and in order:
Nikki Haley
Kristi Noem
Ron DeSantis
This is where the money is headed today. And I know because I get asked all the time. My preliminary guess is that one of the two women separates herself from the pack, and that Ron is offered VP in 2024. All candidates from 2016 have disappeared off the fundraising requests. So far as Kasich and Jeb Bush, they would fare better in a Democratic primary than a Republican one.
Do not listen to the media which wants to promote Hawley and Pence...they won't attract any major donor money, and both fare poorly in personal Q ratings.
You really need to talk to people in the know, or at least read independent news. You are so off the scent, you 'll die of hunger.
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I was just thinking about Desantis high-fiving people in the crowd at the Superspreader yesterday, and then wiping his nose.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/maskless- ... -rubs-nose
Go Ron!!!!
https://www.thedailybeast.com/maskless- ... -rubs-nose
Go Ron!!!!
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Glad to see you adjusting your position.seacoaster wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:58 pm I was just thinking about Desantis high-fiving people in the crowd at the Superspreader yesterday, and then wiping his nose.
Go Ron!!!!
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
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Only thing I'm adjusting is my Amazon and Wayfair holdings, what with the way Republicans keep extending the pandemic. I feel like a war profiteer.youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:22 pmGlad to see you adjusting your position.seacoaster wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:58 pm I was just thinking about Desantis high-fiving people in the crowd at the Superspreader yesterday, and then wiping his nose.
Go Ron!!!!
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Let's hope those Republicans in Florida show and lead us out of this, instead of assuming the worse.seacoaster wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:28 pmOnly thing I'm adjusting is my Amazon and Wayfair holdings, what with the way Republicans keep extending the pandemic. I feel like a war profiteer.youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:22 pmGlad to see you adjusting your position.seacoaster wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:58 pm I was just thinking about Desantis high-fiving people in the crowd at the Superspreader yesterday, and then wiping his nose.
Go Ron!!!!
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
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“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
~Livy
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That pollyanna'ish silliness is your thing. We have 351,000 new cases in the last seven days, around 17,800 of which are in Florida. Fifty thousand new cases a day, and testing is still too random and slow. Still, that's a lot of contact tracing.youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:35 pmLet's hope those Republicans in Florida show and lead us out of this, instead of assuming the worse.seacoaster wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:28 pmOnly thing I'm adjusting is my Amazon and Wayfair holdings, what with the way Republicans keep extending the pandemic. I feel like a war profiteer.youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:22 pmGlad to see you adjusting your position.seacoaster wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:58 pm I was just thinking about Desantis high-fiving people in the crowd at the Superspreader yesterday, and then wiping his nose.
Go Ron!!!!