I think the #'s could be argued a bit earlier than that as well, but, yes, the language used is real time failure. Current death rates, going back at least into May have been much worse than any other developed nation.wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:22 pmpretty confusing what the author means about worst on fatality. since may 10th, i guess?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:05 pmWhy focus on the negative! Wishful thinking is what matters.
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well, not current or real time, but since may 10. author really doesn't make that clear though, certainly not by the title or opening salvo.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:33 pmI think the #'s could be argued a bit earlier than that as well, but, yes, the language used is real time failure. Current death rates, going back at least into May have been much worse than any other developed nation.wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:22 pmpretty confusing what the author means about worst on fatality. since may 10th, i guess?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:05 pmWhy focus on the negative! Wishful thinking is what matters.
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I am going to rely on wishful thinking. What do we have to lose?wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:22 pmpretty confusing what the author means about worst on fatality. since may 10th, i guess?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:05 pmWhy focus on the negative! Wishful thinking is what matters.
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Pete, don’t look at this. It’s one of those fascinating progression things. Florida comes out on top (or at the bottom depending on your perspective).
https://twitter.com/taylorlorenz/status ... 98210?s=10
https://twitter.com/taylorlorenz/status ... 98210?s=10
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nothing!!!Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:43 pmI am going to rely on wishful thinking. What do we have to lose?wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:22 pmpretty confusing what the author means about worst on fatality. since may 10th, i guess?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:05 pmWhy focus on the negative! Wishful thinking is what matters.
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I thought this was quite clear as to the time spans being referenced. Right now we are the worst in the world among developed nations. And have been the worst for many months now.wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:39 pmwell, not current or real time, but since may 10. author really doesn't make that clear though, certainly not by the title or opening salvo.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:33 pmI think the #'s could be argued a bit earlier than that as well, but, yes, the language used is real time failure. Current death rates, going back at least into May have been much worse than any other developed nation.wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:22 pmpretty confusing what the author means about worst on fatality. since may 10th, i guess?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:05 pmWhy focus on the negative! Wishful thinking is what matters.
The proportion of Americans dying from coronavirus infections is the highest in the developed world, according to a study of global mortality rates that shows the U.S. pandemic response left citizens exposed to the lethal disease.
Early in the outbreak, the U.S. mortality rate from Covid-19 was lower than in many other hard-hit countries, including the U.K., Spain and the Netherlands, according to the report Monday in the Journal of the American Medical Association. But as spring turned to summer, the U.S. largely failed to embrace public-health and policy measures that have helped other countries reduce death rates.
If U.S. deaths after May 10 had occurred at the same pace as in Spain, the U.S. mortality rate would be 47% lower, with 93,247 fewer people dying, the report found. More than 100,000 fewer Americans would have died if the U.S. had the same mortality rate as the Netherlands.
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no. since may 10th we are. not right now. see? confusing.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:45 pmI thought this was quite clear as to the time spans being referenced. Right now we are the worst in the world among developed nations. And have been the worst for many months now.wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:39 pmwell, not current or real time, but since may 10. author really doesn't make that clear though, certainly not by the title or opening salvo.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:33 pmI think the #'s could be argued a bit earlier than that as well, but, yes, the language used is real time failure. Current death rates, going back at least into May have been much worse than any other developed nation.wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:22 pmpretty confusing what the author means about worst on fatality. since may 10th, i guess?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:05 pmWhy focus on the negative! Wishful thinking is what matters.
The proportion of Americans dying from coronavirus infections is the highest in the developed world, according to a study of global mortality rates that shows the U.S. pandemic response left citizens exposed to the lethal disease.
Early in the outbreak, the U.S. mortality rate from Covid-19 was lower than in many other hard-hit countries, including the U.K., Spain and the Netherlands, according to the report Monday in the Journal of the American Medical Association. But as spring turned to summer, the U.S. largely failed to embrace public-health and policy measures that have helped other countries reduce death rates.
If U.S. deaths after May 10 had occurred at the same pace as in Spain, the U.S. mortality rate would be 47% lower, with 93,247 fewer people dying, the report found. More than 100,000 fewer Americans would have died if the U.S. had the same mortality rate as the Netherlands.
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Yikes, those red states are having a rough time...great visualization!njbill wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:44 pm Pete, don’t look at this. It’s one of those fascinating progression things. Florida comes out on top (or at the bottom depending on your perspective).
https://twitter.com/taylorlorenz/status ... 98210?s=10
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Are you saying that's not also the case this past month as well?wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:48 pmno. since may 10th we are. not right now. see? confusing.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:45 pmI thought this was quite clear as to the time spans being referenced. Right now we are the worst in the world among developed nations. And have been the worst for many months now.wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:39 pmwell, not current or real time, but since may 10. author really doesn't make that clear though, certainly not by the title or opening salvo.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:33 pmI think the #'s could be argued a bit earlier than that as well, but, yes, the language used is real time failure. Current death rates, going back at least into May have been much worse than any other developed nation.wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:22 pmpretty confusing what the author means about worst on fatality. since may 10th, i guess?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:05 pmWhy focus on the negative! Wishful thinking is what matters.
The proportion of Americans dying from coronavirus infections is the highest in the developed world, according to a study of global mortality rates that shows the U.S. pandemic response left citizens exposed to the lethal disease.
Early in the outbreak, the U.S. mortality rate from Covid-19 was lower than in many other hard-hit countries, including the U.K., Spain and the Netherlands, according to the report Monday in the Journal of the American Medical Association. But as spring turned to summer, the U.S. largely failed to embrace public-health and policy measures that have helped other countries reduce death rates.
If U.S. deaths after May 10 had occurred at the same pace as in Spain, the U.S. mortality rate would be 47% lower, with 93,247 fewer people dying, the report found. More than 100,000 fewer Americans would have died if the U.S. had the same mortality rate as the Netherlands.
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spain, cited in the article, has taken the baton for now. considering case lag, things may be messy there for a little while. several others, including uk and netherlands cited, might be coming up on the outside soon.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:50 pmAre you saying that's not also the case this past month as well?wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:48 pmno. since may 10th we are. not right now. see? confusing.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:45 pmI thought this was quite clear as to the time spans being referenced. Right now we are the worst in the world among developed nations. And have been the worst for many months now.wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:39 pmwell, not current or real time, but since may 10. author really doesn't make that clear though, certainly not by the title or opening salvo.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:33 pmI think the #'s could be argued a bit earlier than that as well, but, yes, the language used is real time failure. Current death rates, going back at least into May have been much worse than any other developed nation.wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:22 pmpretty confusing what the author means about worst on fatality. since may 10th, i guess?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:05 pmWhy focus on the negative! Wishful thinking is what matters.
The proportion of Americans dying from coronavirus infections is the highest in the developed world, according to a study of global mortality rates that shows the U.S. pandemic response left citizens exposed to the lethal disease.
Early in the outbreak, the U.S. mortality rate from Covid-19 was lower than in many other hard-hit countries, including the U.K., Spain and the Netherlands, according to the report Monday in the Journal of the American Medical Association. But as spring turned to summer, the U.S. largely failed to embrace public-health and policy measures that have helped other countries reduce death rates.
If U.S. deaths after May 10 had occurred at the same pace as in Spain, the U.S. mortality rate would be 47% lower, with 93,247 fewer people dying, the report found. More than 100,000 fewer Americans would have died if the U.S. had the same mortality rate as the Netherlands.
these countries may be more inclined to turn things again on "lockdowns" to stem the tide, where we don't seem to be inclined to take that path.
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You are correct. Thanks.
Indeed, Spain, with 1/7th our population has recently inched past us in average daily deaths per million pop. And I'd agree that their swell in cases, now declining, will probably keep them just above us for the next month, given lag. On the other hand, our cases are swelling now and it looks like we'll stay on that trajectory for some time. Not sure there's public policy in the offing, or changed aggregate behavior, that's going to change that trajectory markedly for the next few months.
But no aspersions to Spain, but hardly a comparable we'd normally set for ourselves.
Indeed, Spain, with 1/7th our population has recently inched past us in average daily deaths per million pop. And I'd agree that their swell in cases, now declining, will probably keep them just above us for the next month, given lag. On the other hand, our cases are swelling now and it looks like we'll stay on that trajectory for some time. Not sure there's public policy in the offing, or changed aggregate behavior, that's going to change that trajectory markedly for the next few months.
But no aspersions to Spain, but hardly a comparable we'd normally set for ourselves.
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well, that sounds like aspersions to spain! ha!MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:41 pm You are correct. Thanks.
Indeed, Spain, with 1/7th our population has recently inched past us in average daily deaths per million pop. And I'd agree that their swell in cases, now declining, will probably keep them just above us for the next month, given lag. On the other hand, our cases are swelling now and it looks like we'll stay on that trajectory for some time. Not sure there's public policy in the offing, or changed aggregate behavior, that's going to change that trajectory markedly for the next few months.
But no aspersions to Spain, but hardly a comparable we'd normally set for ourselves.
who are our comps, so i can follow along?
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/13/us-paus ... cerns.html
all you palglomsian folks should slow your roll on a miracle cure (twisty face).
all you palglomsian folks should slow your roll on a miracle cure (twisty face).
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These pauses happen. Hopefully it’s a one-off and we can get back to working on a solution.wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:19 pm https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/13/us-paus ... cerns.html
all you palglomsian folks should slow your roll on a miracle cure (twisty face).
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wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:56 pmwell, that sounds like aspersions to spain! ha!MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:41 pm You are correct. Thanks.
Indeed, Spain, with 1/7th our population has recently inched past us in average daily deaths per million pop. And I'd agree that their swell in cases, now declining, will probably keep them just above us for the next month, given lag. On the other hand, our cases are swelling now and it looks like we'll stay on that trajectory for some time. Not sure there's public policy in the offing, or changed aggregate behavior, that's going to change that trajectory markedly for the next few months.
But no aspersions to Spain, but hardly a comparable we'd normally set for ourselves.
who are our comps, so i can follow along?
Try asking the Germans how they would rank peer developed nations...or maybe ask the Swiss...
Gotta remember that we tell ourselves that we have No peers...
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Mexico, Brazil and India.....wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:56 pmwell, that sounds like aspersions to spain! ha!MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:41 pm You are correct. Thanks.
Indeed, Spain, with 1/7th our population has recently inched past us in average daily deaths per million pop. And I'd agree that their swell in cases, now declining, will probably keep them just above us for the next month, given lag. On the other hand, our cases are swelling now and it looks like we'll stay on that trajectory for some time. Not sure there's public policy in the offing, or changed aggregate behavior, that's going to change that trajectory markedly for the next few months.
But no aspersions to Spain, but hardly a comparable we'd normally set for ourselves.
who are our comps, so i can follow along?
We’re # 36! we’re #36! We’re #36!!
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damn, those are our only comps? looks like we're in last, then.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:54 pmwgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:56 pmwell, that sounds like aspersions to spain! ha!MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:41 pm You are correct. Thanks.
Indeed, Spain, with 1/7th our population has recently inched past us in average daily deaths per million pop. And I'd agree that their swell in cases, now declining, will probably keep them just above us for the next month, given lag. On the other hand, our cases are swelling now and it looks like we'll stay on that trajectory for some time. Not sure there's public policy in the offing, or changed aggregate behavior, that's going to change that trajectory markedly for the next few months.
But no aspersions to Spain, but hardly a comparable we'd normally set for ourselves.
who are our comps, so i can follow along?
Try asking the Germans how they would rank peer developed nations...or maybe ask the Swiss...
Gotta remember that we tell ourselves that we have No peers...
hopefully we do better than germany going forward, who my boys at ihme have deaths going up over 6 fold in the next 3 1/2 months, and that's with them recognizing only about 1/4 of the daily infections germany says they have nowadays.
good luck to all comp countries!
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and re opened in June......carry onTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:55 pmABV 8.3% wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:53 pmawesome.......lots and lots more jobs are opening up because of all these deaths.
half of my daughters class have died. from covid. Same for all those locked in dorm rooms, because they tested "postitive", with zero symptoms. dead.
carry on. Casino's are essential
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/nevad ... 2020-03-17
https://www.azfamily.com/news/us_world_ ... 90c38.html
oligarchy thanks you......same as it evah was
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:08 pmMexico, Brazil and India.....wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:56 pmwell, that sounds like aspersions to spain! ha!MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:41 pm You are correct. Thanks.
Indeed, Spain, with 1/7th our population has recently inched past us in average daily deaths per million pop. And I'd agree that their swell in cases, now declining, will probably keep them just above us for the next month, given lag. On the other hand, our cases are swelling now and it looks like we'll stay on that trajectory for some time. Not sure there's public policy in the offing, or changed aggregate behavior, that's going to change that trajectory markedly for the next few months.
But no aspersions to Spain, but hardly a comparable we'd normally set for ourselves.
who are our comps, so i can follow along?
We’re # 36! we’re #36! We’re #36!!
wgdsr, indeed, good luck to all nations going forward.
It's gonna be a hard road for most of the world, though not so much for those who actually squelched the spread.
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Yep. So has a lot it things! I looked for you on Morrissey last week!ABV 8.3% wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:12 pmand re opened in June......carry onTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:55 pmABV 8.3% wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:53 pmawesome.......lots and lots more jobs are opening up because of all these deaths.
half of my daughters class have died. from covid. Same for all those locked in dorm rooms, because they tested "postitive", with zero symptoms. dead.
carry on. Casino's are essential
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/nevad ... 2020-03-17
https://www.azfamily.com/news/us_world_ ... 90c38.html
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