CNN Says 'White Men' are the Biggest Terror Threat in US

[Brooklyn]

+1

Cradle: The Left and its echo chamber want everyone they don't like to be a WS. And even if you are not a WS (which 99.99999999% of Americans are not), they'll call you it anyway.

correction: less than ZERO

Go ahead and tell us which specific "Lefties" call you or anyone here a WS.

I bet this, too, will be a long wait.

[ToastDunk]

Cradle - there have been prior investigations of white nationalist movements that have purposely asked members to join the military, lay low about their beliefs, and get training so they can bring it back to the group.

This is, unfortunately, not a fictitious report...

I still call it horsechit. I served long enough to know it when I see it. IMO I don't think the average WS jackwagon has the intestinal fortitude to make it through basic training and AIT. If they do then they will come out of the other side understanding that their mission is to serve their country. I saw myself how the misfits in my unit fell by the wayside and were thrown out of the service. I'm sorry but i just am not buying it. My personal experience tells me otherwise. If these WS want to play soldier I'm sure they can learn enough on line to have their own little training camps out in the woods. They can go out and shoot their rifles and become the good little WS they always wanted to be. I fully believe their kind would not be acceptable to their fellow soldiers.

Cradle, let me be clear, I agree with you that a majority (and I think it's got to be a vast majority) of the men and women serving in our military have done so for the reasons you stated. These are brave men and women who love our country. Full stop.

We do have a problem in this country with a rise in white extremism (and we're seeing it in Europe as well). Our military is not immune to these people. I didn't find the article suggesting the U.S. Military is a bunch of white supremacists, but rather identifying there is evidence of white supremacists in the military. I think we would all agree we don't want any "WS jackwagons" serving in our military. I didn't read the article as an indictment of the military, but rather the need to better identify white extremists during the recruit screening process.

I did not post this piece to get a rise out of, or show any disrespect to, those here who have served.

P.S. PB, I don't hate this country. I don't think the authors of the piece hate this country. Please be more careful with your accusations.

[Typical Lax Dad]

I guess this isn’t true;

https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-w ... story.html

And don’t forget this:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dhs-domest ... ngers-gop/

[Brooklyn]

I guess this isn’t true;

https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-w ... story.html

And don’t forget this:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dhs-domest ... ngers-gop/

Coast Guard terrorist: "Prosecutors also claimed Hasson drew up what appeared to be a computer spreadsheet hit list naming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer and Democratic presidential hopefuls, including Elizabeth Warren. He also mentioned several network TV journalists, including MSNBC's Chris Hayes and Joe Scarborough and CNN's Chris Cuomo and Van Jones."

Treasonous terrorism of the worse kind.

[Peter Brown]

I guess this isn’t true;

https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-w ... story.html

And don’t forget this:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dhs-domest ... ngers-gop/

Whoa, two whole guys out of a population of330,000,000...!!!! Stop the presses...let's get hysterical!

No one better tell TLD about the nightly violence in Portland or the dozens of cities where thousands of Democrats loot, burn, and destroy

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[Typical Lax Dad]

I guess this isn’t true;

https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-w ... story.html

And don’t forget this:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dhs-domest ... ngers-gop/

Whoa, two whole guys out of a population of330,000,000...!!!! Stop the presses...let's get hysterical!

No one better tell TLD about the nightly violence in Portland or the dozens of cities where thousands of Democrats loot, burn, and destroy


BLM.jpg

Not sure what that has to do with the links. Folks in Portland should be arrested.

[cradleandshoot]

Cradle - there have been prior investigations of white nationalist movements that have purposely asked members to join the military, lay low about their beliefs, and get training so they can bring it back to the group.

This is, unfortunately, not a fictitious report...

I still call it horsechit. I served long enough to know it when I see it. IMO I don't think the average WS jackwagon has the intestinal fortitude to make it through basic training and AIT. If they do then they will come out of the other side understanding that their mission is to serve their country. I saw myself how the misfits in my unit fell by the wayside and were thrown out of the service. I'm sorry but i just am not buying it. My personal experience tells me otherwise. If these WS want to play soldier I'm sure they can learn enough on line to have their own little training camps out in the woods. They can go out and shoot their rifles and become the good little WS they always wanted to be. I fully believe their kind would not be acceptable to their fellow soldiers.

Cradle, let me be clear, I agree with you that a majority (and I think it's got to be a vast majority) of the men and women serving in our military have done so for the reasons you stated. These are brave men and women who love our country. Full stop.

We do have a problem in this country with a rise in white extremism (and we're seeing it in Europe as well). Our military is not immune to these people. I didn't find the article suggesting the U.S. Military is a bunch of white supremacists, but rather identifying there is evidence of white supremacists in the military. I think we would all agree we don't want any "WS jackwagons" serving in our military. I didn't read the article as an indictment of the military, but rather the need to better identify white extremists during the recruit screening process.

I did not post this piece to get a rise out of, or show any disrespect to, those here who have served.

P.S. PB, I don't hate this country. I don't think the authors of the piece hate this country. Please be more careful with your accusations.

I apologize to you for taking your post out of context. Here is a point for you to think about. Should it be illegal to be a member of the US military if you belong to or have allegiance to any extremist group what so ever? IMO that opens up a pandora's box of sticky issues that would make it almost impossible to recruit young people into the military. Where would the US military draw the line? Is it even legal to ask a potential recruit about their personal or private beliefs. Being a member of a WS group may be frowned upon by many people. Since it is not illegal to do so why should it exclude you from serving your country? The Boy Scouts of America have a problem with pedophiles in their rank and file. Should that exclude Boy Scouts from the military? I could go on and on. I think I understand the point of view the military takes. If you choose to join they will do everything they know how to do to knock the civilian right out of you. They have been doing it for a very long time and they are pretty damn good at it IMO.

[cradleandshoot]

You guys (cradle, PB at least) are really ignoring the fact that WS is pervasive within far more than a tiny minority...

Try the following on for size:

http://www.kellyjbaker.com/writing/gosp ... -the-klan/

Book is coming from a PhD thesis on the Klan in the first three decades of the 20th century - but the pervasive nature of the acceptance of the ideas is still here today.

I really do not give a flying fig about any PhD thesis. Unless that person actually served, especially in an infantry platoon, they have not actually lived the experience first hand. There was a soldier in platoon who was a blatant klan member. The US Army threw his ass out. The army has faults I could name all day long here. There was some behavior and attitudes that the army understands is poison to a cohesive fighting unit.

Her book has nothing to do with the military - it is all about the nature of White Supremacy.

The attempts to infiltrate the military are fairly recent (last 20 years or less).

Anyone who is overtly racist/WS of course is going to be booted. The more recent attempts are intentionally "undercover" to avoid that boot. But it has been documented.

If it is not illegal to be a member of a WS group how can joining the military be called infiltrating? WS may be immoral to a lot of people but we live in America. What is the new question to be... are you now or have you ever been a member of a white supremacist group? It could be that WS folks are now the modern day communists in America. I have much loathing for communist ideology living in a free country. The last time I looked you can live in America and be a communist and I bet you can even join the US Army if you so choose.

[Peter Brown]

You guys (cradle, PB at least) are really ignoring the fact that WS is pervasive within far more than a tiny minority...

Try the following on for size:

http://www.kellyjbaker.com/writing/gosp ... -the-klan/

Book is coming from a PhD thesis on the Klan in the first three decades of the 20th century - but the pervasive nature of the acceptance of the ideas is still here today.

I really do not give a flying fig about any PhD thesis. Unless that person actually served, especially in an infantry platoon, they have not actually lived the experience first hand. There was a soldier in platoon who was a blatant klan member. The US Army threw his ass out. The army has faults I could name all day long here. There was some behavior and attitudes that the army understands is poison to a cohesive fighting unit.

Her book has nothing to do with the military - it is all about the nature of White Supremacy.

The attempts to infiltrate the military are fairly recent (last 20 years or less).

Anyone who is overtly racist/WS of course is going to be booted. The more recent attempts are intentionally "undercover" to avoid that boot. But it has been documented.

If it is not illegal to be a member of a WS group how can joining the military be called infiltrating? WS may be immoral to a lot of people but we live in America. What is the new question to be... are you now or have you ever been a member of a white supremacist group? It could be that WS folks are now the modern day communists in America. I have much loathing for communist ideology living in a free country. The last time I looked you can live in America and be a communist and I bet you can even join the US Army if you so choose.

A communist, John Brennan, eventually ran the CIA...though it appears his hatred of America got the better of him in the end.

[SCLaxAttack]

It's foolish to assume the US military isn't composed of the same diversity as the US general public. A simple google search yielded:

From https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... emist-plot

"A 2019 survey of readers of Military Times, an independent news outlet, found that more that 36% of active-duty troops surveyed said they had personally witnessed examples of white nationalism or ideological-driven racism within the ranks in recent months – a 14% increase from a similar survey the year before."

From https://warontherocks.com/2020/05/of-co ... -baked-in/

"The Department of Defense is under pressure from Congress to expose and correct its white supremacy problem. It’s clear that there is a problem — one not confined to the Army — and a recent troop survey indicates a worrying upward trend in signs of white supremacy in the ranks. But it’s also clear that the department has taken a softball approach to the challenge — as illustrated by the fact that it doesn’t treat membership in white supremacist organizations as a sole rationale for discharge."

"US soldier, alleged member of white supremacist group, accused of plotting attack on own unit" - https://abcnews.go.com/US/us-soldier-al ... d=71392427

[MDlaxfan76]

Again, if you learned that these folks, whether ISIS or white supremacist Boogaloo or Proud Boys or Klan or...were actively going into the military, recruiting from the military, you'd be incensed, right?

These are the people with whom you should be angry.

Let me put it to you differently MD. If a major conflict erupts that will become combat intense attrition rates of soldiers will make cherry picking recruits a thing of the past. It won't matter if you are a WS or a freaking child molester, if you can march and fire a rifle your ticket will be punched quickly. The flip side then will be... hey if you don't want to serve, tell em your a WS or that you wet the bed. There is your get out of military service card.

Meanwhile, how about we don't train terrorists?

[cradleandshoot]

Again, if you learned that these folks, whether ISIS or white supremacist Boogaloo or Proud Boys or Klan or...were actively going into the military, recruiting from the military, you'd be incensed, right?

These are the people with whom you should be angry.

I just asked this same question to Red. It is not illegal to be a member of a WS group. If it is not illegal to be a member of a WS group, how does the military legally exclude them from joining? You do understand you are advocating opening up a legal argument that the SCOTUS will never defend. WS are an immoral bunch of folks in all of our eyes. If you are advocating vacating their constitutional rights to be a member of an immoral group of hate filled people. I file that in the same section as burning the American flag. It is vile and repulsive but it is protected by the constitution of the United States. I am willing to listen to your argument about which constitutional rights we should pick and choose depending on how repulsive they are to us as individuals. Maybe some of those black panther guys who are not that crazy about most white folks should be excluded from military service too. I hope you have a clear understanding of the road you want to venture down and where it leads to.

[MDlaxfan76]

Cradle - there have been prior investigations of white nationalist movements that have purposely asked members to join the military, lay low about their beliefs, and get training so they can bring it back to the group.

This is, unfortunately, not a fictitious report...

I still call it horsechit. I served long enough to know it when I see it. IMO I don't think the average WS jackwagon has the intestinal fortitude to make it through basic training and AIT. If they do then they will come out of the other side understanding that their mission is to serve their country. I saw myself how the misfits in my unit fell by the wayside and were thrown out of the service. I'm sorry but i just am not buying it. My personal experience tells me otherwise. If these WS want to play soldier I'm sure they can learn enough on line to have their own little training camps out in the woods. They can go out and shoot their rifles and become the good little WS they always wanted to be. I fully believe their kind would not be acceptable to their fellow soldiers.

Cradle, let me be clear, I agree with you that a majority (and I think it's got to be a vast majority) of the men and women serving in our military have done so for the reasons you stated. These are brave men and women who love our country. Full stop.

We do have a problem in this country with a rise in white extremism (and we're seeing it in Europe as well). Our military is not immune to these people. I didn't find the article suggesting the U.S. Military is a bunch of white supremacists, but rather identifying there is evidence of white supremacists in the military. I think we would all agree we don't want any "WS jackwagons" serving in our military. I didn't read the article as an indictment of the military, but rather the need to better identify white extremists during the recruit screening process.

I did not post this piece to get a rise out of, or show any disrespect to, those here who have served.

P.S. PB, I don't hate this country. I don't think the authors of the piece hate this country. Please be more careful with your accusations.

I apologize to you for taking your post out of context. Here is a point for you to think about. Should it be illegal to be a member of the US military if you belong to or have allegiance to any extremist group what so ever? IMO that opens up a pandora's box of sticky issues that would make it almost impossible to recruit young people into the military. Where would the US military draw the line? Is it even legal to ask a potential recruit about their personal or private beliefs. Being a member of a WS group may be frowned upon by many people. Since it is not illegal to do so why should it exclude you from serving your country? The Boy Scouts of America have a problem with pedophiles in their rank and file. Should that exclude Boy Scouts from the military? I could go on and on. I think I understand the point of view the military takes. If you choose to join they will do everything they know how to do to knock the civilian right out of you. They have been doing it for a very long time and they are pretty damn good at it IMO.

well, I sure know that I don't want pedophiles in the Boy Scouts!

And no, being in the military is not a right, it's a privilege.

And if we know from the outset you are a member of extremist group, especially one which has been identified for its violent intentions against the United States or its citizens, then, yup, you don't get that privilege. Doesn't matter whether it's ISIS or Boogaloo, you shouldn't get in. Period.

[cradleandshoot]

Again, if you learned that these folks, whether ISIS or white supremacist Boogaloo or Proud Boys or Klan or...were actively going into the military, recruiting from the military, you'd be incensed, right?

These are the people with whom you should be angry.

Let me put it to you differently MD. If a major conflict erupts that will become combat intense attrition rates of soldiers will make cherry picking recruits a thing of the past. It won't matter if you are a WS or a freaking child molester, if you can march and fire a rifle your ticket will be punched quickly. The flip side then will be... hey if you don't want to serve, tell em your a WS or that you wet the bed. There is your get out of military service card.

Meanwhile, how about we don't train terrorists?

Sorry MD, I do not understand the context of your question. The US Army as I recollect trained us to be soldiers. It ain't illegal to join the US Army and be a member of a WS group. It ain't illegal to join the US Army and be a member of a lot of groups many of us disagree with. I would suppose the new questions to be asked of all new prospective recruits would be about 10 pages long, if you want to cover all the bases. When you raise your paw to take the oath you swear to protect the country against ALL enemies foreign and domestic. That was pretty simple for me to understand way back in 1979. I guess it ain't that simple anymore?

[MDlaxfan76]

Again, if you learned that these folks, whether ISIS or white supremacist Boogaloo or Proud Boys or Klan or...were actively going into the military, recruiting from the military, you'd be incensed, right?

These are the people with whom you should be angry.

I just asked this same question to Red. It is not illegal to be a member of a WS group. If it is not illegal to be a member of a WS group, how does the military legally exclude them from joining? You do understand you are advocating opening up a legal argument that the SCOTUS will never defend. WS are an immoral bunch of folks in all of our eyes. If you are advocating vacating their constitutional rights to be a member of an immoral group of hate filled people. I file that in the same section as burning the American flag. It is vile and repulsive but it is protected by the constitution of the United States. I am willing to listen to your argument about which constitutional rights we should pick and choose depending on how repulsive they are to us as individuals. Maybe some of those black panther guys who are not that crazy about most white folks should be excluded from military service too. I hope you have a clear understanding of the road you want to venture down and where it leads to.

No, every American citizen has the right to have various opinions that most of us would consider "repulsive". And to say them.

But there are indeed repercussions, including exclusion from access to various things, ala access to classified information, access to young children if you advocate pedophilia...and access to US military training if you advocate for the overthrow of the United States or violence against fellow Americans.

Being in the military is not a Constitutional right. It's a privilege.

[MDlaxfan76]

Again, if you learned that these folks, whether ISIS or white supremacist Boogaloo or Proud Boys or Klan or...were actively going into the military, recruiting from the military, you'd be incensed, right?

These are the people with whom you should be angry.

Let me put it to you differently MD. If a major conflict erupts that will become combat intense attrition rates of soldiers will make cherry picking recruits a thing of the past. It won't matter if you are a WS or a freaking child molester, if you can march and fire a rifle your ticket will be punched quickly. The flip side then will be... hey if you don't want to serve, tell em your a WS or that you wet the bed. There is your get out of military service card.

Meanwhile, how about we don't train terrorists?

Sorry MD, I do not understand the context of your question. The US Army as I recollect trained us to be soldiers. It ain't illegal to join the US Army and be a member of a WS group. It ain't illegal to join the US Army and be a member of a lot of groups many of us disagree with. I would suppose the new questions to be asked of all new prospective recruits would be about 10 pages long, if you want to cover all the bases. When you raise your paw to take the oath you swear to protect the country against ALL enemies foreign and domestic. That was pretty simple for me to understand way back in 1979. I guess it ain't that simple anymore?

Again, being trained in the US military is not a right, it's a privilege.
The military screens for all sorts of things, nothing remotely wrong about screening out those who seek such training in order to learn skills to be used against the USA and its citizens.

[cradleandshoot]

Cradle - there have been prior investigations of white nationalist movements that have purposely asked members to join the military, lay low about their beliefs, and get training so they can bring it back to the group.

This is, unfortunately, not a fictitious report...

I still call it horsechit. I served long enough to know it when I see it. IMO I don't think the average WS jackwagon has the intestinal fortitude to make it through basic training and AIT. If they do then they will come out of the other side understanding that their mission is to serve their country. I saw myself how the misfits in my unit fell by the wayside and were thrown out of the service. I'm sorry but i just am not buying it. My personal experience tells me otherwise. If these WS want to play soldier I'm sure they can learn enough on line to have their own little training camps out in the woods. They can go out and shoot their rifles and become the good little WS they always wanted to be. I fully believe their kind would not be acceptable to their fellow soldiers.

Cradle, let me be clear, I agree with you that a majority (and I think it's got to be a vast majority) of the men and women serving in our military have done so for the reasons you stated. These are brave men and women who love our country. Full stop.

We do have a problem in this country with a rise in white extremism (and we're seeing it in Europe as well). Our military is not immune to these people. I didn't find the article suggesting the U.S. Military is a bunch of white supremacists, but rather identifying there is evidence of white supremacists in the military. I think we would all agree we don't want any "WS jackwagons" serving in our military. I didn't read the article as an indictment of the military, but rather the need to better identify white extremists during the recruit screening process.

I did not post this piece to get a rise out of, or show any disrespect to, those here who have served.

P.S. PB, I don't hate this country. I don't think the authors of the piece hate this country. Please be more careful with your accusations.

I apologize to you for taking your post out of context. Here is a point for you to think about. Should it be illegal to be a member of the US military if you belong to or have allegiance to any extremist group what so ever? IMO that opens up a pandora's box of sticky issues that would make it almost impossible to recruit young people into the military. Where would the US military draw the line? Is it even legal to ask a potential recruit about their personal or private beliefs. Being a member of a WS group may be frowned upon by many people. Since it is not illegal to do so why should it exclude you from serving your country? The Boy Scouts of America have a problem with pedophiles in their rank and file. Should that exclude Boy Scouts from the military? I could go on and on. I think I understand the point of view the military takes. If you choose to join they will do everything they know how to do to knock the civilian right out of you. They have been doing it for a very long time and they are pretty damn good at it IMO.

well, I sure know that I don't want pedophiles in the Boy Scouts!

And no, being in the military is not a right, it's a privilege.

And if we know from the outset you are a member of extremist group, especially one which has been identified for its violent intentions against the United States or its citizens, then, yup, you don't get that privilege. Doesn't matter whether it's ISIS or Boogaloo, you shouldn't get in. Period.

I don't disagree necessarily with your sentiments. You are now bringing up a much more complex legal issue. If it should be illegal then the government has to set these parameters. In doing so you will have excluded a very large portion of America from ever serving in the military. You may want to be careful what you are advocating for here. The solution you seek causes more potential problems than it does answers. I know one thing that I am sure has not changed in 40 years. The US Army wants soldiers that will follow orders and complete the mission at hand. If it took a mob of street thugs to accomplish that mission I don't think the Army would care.

[MDlaxfan76]

cradle, I'm a bit surprised about your intransigence on this topic.

Seems to me that folks who care the most about the reputation of what it means to have served in the military want racist "jack wagons" out, not in.

Just as the vast majority of police want bad cops out, not in.

[MDlaxfan76]

Cradle - there have been prior investigations of white nationalist movements that have purposely asked members to join the military, lay low about their beliefs, and get training so they can bring it back to the group.

This is, unfortunately, not a fictitious report...

I still call it horsechit. I served long enough to know it when I see it. IMO I don't think the average WS jackwagon has the intestinal fortitude to make it through basic training and AIT. If they do then they will come out of the other side understanding that their mission is to serve their country. I saw myself how the misfits in my unit fell by the wayside and were thrown out of the service. I'm sorry but i just am not buying it. My personal experience tells me otherwise. If these WS want to play soldier I'm sure they can learn enough on line to have their own little training camps out in the woods. They can go out and shoot their rifles and become the good little WS they always wanted to be. I fully believe their kind would not be acceptable to their fellow soldiers.

Cradle, let me be clear, I agree with you that a majority (and I think it's got to be a vast majority) of the men and women serving in our military have done so for the reasons you stated. These are brave men and women who love our country. Full stop.

We do have a problem in this country with a rise in white extremism (and we're seeing it in Europe as well). Our military is not immune to these people. I didn't find the article suggesting the U.S. Military is a bunch of white supremacists, but rather identifying there is evidence of white supremacists in the military. I think we would all agree we don't want any "WS jackwagons" serving in our military. I didn't read the article as an indictment of the military, but rather the need to better identify white extremists during the recruit screening process.

I did not post this piece to get a rise out of, or show any disrespect to, those here who have served.

P.S. PB, I don't hate this country. I don't think the authors of the piece hate this country. Please be more careful with your accusations.

I apologize to you for taking your post out of context. Here is a point for you to think about. Should it be illegal to be a member of the US military if you belong to or have allegiance to any extremist group what so ever? IMO that opens up a pandora's box of sticky issues that would make it almost impossible to recruit young people into the military. Where would the US military draw the line? Is it even legal to ask a potential recruit about their personal or private beliefs. Being a member of a WS group may be frowned upon by many people. Since it is not illegal to do so why should it exclude you from serving your country? The Boy Scouts of America have a problem with pedophiles in their rank and file. Should that exclude Boy Scouts from the military? I could go on and on. I think I understand the point of view the military takes. If you choose to join they will do everything they know how to do to knock the civilian right out of you. They have been doing it for a very long time and they are pretty damn good at it IMO.

well, I sure know that I don't want pedophiles in the Boy Scouts!

And no, being in the military is not a right, it's a privilege.

And if we know from the outset you are a member of extremist group, especially one which has been identified for its violent intentions against the United States or its citizens, then, yup, you don't get that privilege. Doesn't matter whether it's ISIS or Boogaloo, you shouldn't get in. Period.

I don't disagree necessarily with your sentiments. You are now bringing up a much more complex legal issue. If it should be illegal then the government has to set these parameters. In doing so you will have excluded a very large portion of America from ever serving in the military. You may want to be careful what you are advocating for here. The solution you seek causes more potential problems than it does answers. I know one thing that I am sure has not changed in 40 years. The US Army wants soldiers that will follow orders and complete the mission at hand. If it took a mob of street thugs to accomplish that mission I don't think the Army would care.

That's the thing, cradle, "street thugs" are the opposite of today's professional, volunteer military. And yeah, the Army actually does care. Today's military are not mindless, bloodthirsty marauders, nor would we want them to be.

Seriously, you think there's such a large portion of the US population who are members of groups like the Boogaloo boys or Proud Boys or Klan, that US military performance would be compromised???

You must think there's an awful large portion of the military is white supremacist...yikes.

And it's actually not a "complex legal issue". If you're a member of a terrorist org, you don't get in...or if you join such while in, you get bounced.

[cradleandshoot]

Again, if you learned that these folks, whether ISIS or white supremacist Boogaloo or Proud Boys or Klan or...were actively going into the military, recruiting from the military, you'd be incensed, right?

These are the people with whom you should be angry.

Let me put it to you differently MD. If a major conflict erupts that will become combat intense attrition rates of soldiers will make cherry picking recruits a thing of the past. It won't matter if you are a WS or a freaking child molester, if you can march and fire a rifle your ticket will be punched quickly. The flip side then will be... hey if you don't want to serve, tell em your a WS or that you wet the bed. There is your get out of military service card.

Meanwhile, how about we don't train terrorists?

Sorry MD, I do not understand the context of your question. The US Army as I recollect trained us to be soldiers. It ain't illegal to join the US Army and be a member of a WS group. It ain't illegal to join the US Army and be a member of a lot of groups many of us disagree with. I would suppose the new questions to be asked of all new prospective recruits would be about 10 pages long, if you want to cover all the bases. When you raise your paw to take the oath you swear to protect the country against ALL enemies foreign and domestic. That was pretty simple for me to understand way back in 1979. I guess it ain't that simple anymore?

Again, being trained in the US military is not a right, it's a privilege.
The military screens for all sorts of things, nothing remotely wrong about screening out those who seek such training in order to learn skills to be used against the USA and its citizens.

I must be a true dinosaur here. I bet not one damn GI or Marine or Navy or Airmen that was sent to Vietnam was ever screened for anything other than VD. Not a damn person I ever knew in 3 years of service ever stated to me my service was a privilege. I would love for you to tell any swinging dick that was ever drafted into the military that their service was a privilege... their service was an obligation, THEY HAD NO CHOICE, THEY HAD TO SERVE. You don't freaking get it MD. The US Army is looking for cannon fodder. They need people willing to go out there and risk their lives for duty, honor and country if you believe that. I doubt any higher up in the military will ever admit this publicly. They don't give a flying fig about your personal life or how good or bad a person you are or what race of people you don't like. They just want you to follow orders and do your job, that is the bottom line. You may not like it my friend but that is reality. The US military truly is an equal opportunity employer.