i have trouble figuring how shifting the dates for postmark/un postmark/due dates by 3 days solves problems and doesn't potentially create more of them. it could be just me. someone could elaborate?ggait wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:08 pm Any of these rules is perfectly fine from a fraud perspective. You just have to pick one and stick to it without any rat-forking partisan interference
The mailbox rule is fine and actually used for lots of situations. When I paid my quarterly taxes on 9/15, for example, the IRS didn't get my money on 9/15. I wrote a check and mailed it on 9/15. My payment is timely so long as there's a postmark 9/15. If I screw up and don't mail the check early enough in the day to get a postmark, that's on me. Works just fine.
What supposedly is going to be the fraud game under PA's mailbox rule?
A bunch of people don't vote on Tuesday. Then when they see the Joe is trailing, those people all rally to vote by mail in the wee hours of Tuesday night and Wednesday morning. Then, those late voters somehow have to bribe the postal workers in order to avoid application of postmarks. Or to get them to do backdated postmarks. How exactly could this be pulled off in volume? And if you're going to try this, why wouldn't you just do something to get those folks to just vote by Tuesday? Seems a LOT easier. Come one guys, its all partisan BS.
But the better rule is that your ballot has to be received by the election folks on election day. That how CO does it. Because we Coloradans don't tolerate rat-forking, the election officials (D, R and I) highly publicize the deadline rule as election day approaches. And we have TONS of drop boxes and drop sites and folks are encouraged to use them instead of the mail as Tuesday approaches. Lots of drive throughs open on Saturday and Sunday. And the good thing is that, for counting results, the election canvass ends on Tuesday and the results are available quickly (since we start counting early).
One drop box for all of Harris County/Houston? Seriously -- five forking million people live there!! But a rural county with five thousand people also gets one box? That's full on Banana Republican right there. And we all know it.
am a big states' rights guy. in theory states should be able to do what they want. so if pa wants to go thru all the legislative and judicial process, then submit and count votes up to january that's up to them and i won't be marching on harrisburg. i don't understand it, but it'll all get shushed out.
this is a federal election, so some gray area on state's rights. we already have a number or all of them allowing late overseas ballots, so not only precedent but more gray. my preference is to avoid issues that could be avoided, get timely election results.
seems easy enough to do. does having a deadline of election day receipt disenfranchise the people? if so, we should change a lot of state election laws.
Wanna guess where their editor in chief got his education? ----you can't make this up-----University of Netherlands. Yep, that's right. Educated by the socialists, but of course, he's running stories about how socialism is bad.
