I actually do understand and while, yes, bowling wouldn't be at the top of my list, I certainly think that they're no less worthy of support during this crisis than other forms of entertainment and livelihood.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:33 pm":D not sure whether Cuomo has ever thrown a strike in your book."MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:41 pmnot sure whether Cuomo has ever thrown a strike in your book.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:34 pmSound leadership standing by a huge boatload full of struggling business now going down the toilet instead of just circling it. I know here in NYS how effed up it is for businesses trying to survive. Here is a prime example of "sound leadership" for you. King Andy allowed bowling alleys to open up last month. Bowlers can only bowl on EVERY OTHER LANE. Your a smart cookie MD and I don't know if you ever bowled. How do you have league bowling with 10 bowlers trying to bowl on 1 lane? The answer is you can't, the concept was effing idiotic from the start. The end result is league bowling here in Rochester, which was big business for the bowling establishments is pooping the bed. At some point in time my friend the concept of sound leadership has to cross the intersection of common sense. That is not happening here in NYS.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:22 pmQuite the prediction, want to place a small bet on that?...Petey's yet to pay off on his crab bet, so there's an opening there for you...cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:16 pmI thought that if elected Joe would cut the death rate in the USA down to zero on Nov. 5th? I know how sleazy the democrat leadership is. If they beat trump the miracle of miracles will happen... suddenly the death rate from Covid will not be such a big freaking deal anymore. The MM may not even post the daily body bag total everyday like the do now? One Covid starts becoming their problem, the rules of the game will change radically. I will bet good old Doc B won't give a flying fig about who dies from Covid anymore. He may not even remember what Covid is after Nov. 5th. The democrat party will come down with an even more bizarre medical malady. We can call it sudden onset Covid amnesia.old salt wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:03 pmGreat news for China. Well played CCCP.wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:24 amit's a strategy. if those come. i suspect if my friends at ihme are correct, we'll see lockdowns everywhere well before jan 20 and this debate won't matter. germany is expected to have daily cases rise to about 70-75 thousand per day in december, their death toll nearly triple by year end and who knows what for mortality in jan-feb.dislaxxic wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:08 amBuy time til an effective, safe vaccine and effective, quick testing?wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:53 amSpain and france have seen 40 fold increases in case rates after extended lockdowns. 40 fold.
uk, italy and germany 10 fold increases after extended lockdowns. germany's and italy's totals are still (for now) at reasonable levels and germany has been the star of the first world all things considered. aspiring to be germany is a lofty goal.
lockdown would be to buy time?
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here's to a vaccine.
But I would advise you that it's a bad bet.
I suspect we'll hear quite clearly what is actually happening, good, bad, and ugly.
And it won't be 'good' for quite a bit, unfortunately.
No magic wand.
But we'll have sound leadership come the last week of next January.
My aunt was an avid, competitive bowler, I've been at best a casual bowler once in a blue moon.
Leadership right now for small businesses, all sorts of small businesses, is going to need to be primarily financial support while the realities of COVID are addressed. Bowling is definitely not at the top of my list as "essential" but I do believe in supporting all such businesses that were normally surviving or thriving absent this COVID shock.
I also would look to the industry to come up with a way to actually return to operation safely, but if they can't, that's fine, support them financially in the interim.
That requires federal support, the states can't do it.
If he did I was not at the game. I know he throws a lot of balks.
The problem as I see it, at least here in NYS, is nobody knows when things can get back to something resembling normal. My job vanished when the restaurant and bar business hit the skids. The business owners that could afford to adapt have squeaked it out. The guy that runs our local pizza emporium has seen his business go through the roof. He never did have sit down customers. He was pretty much always take out and delivery. He adapted with no problem at all. If you run a local gin joint and you made your money on that cranking bar on Friday and Saturday nights, you have taken a huge hit. Bowling alleys taking a hit may not seem like a big deal to you. In the big scheme of things it probably is not. IMO for each little piece of our normal life we are forced to give up, we lose something we may never get back. If we listen to what the folks that run this state are telling us, we better damn well get use to the status quo.
The sooner we crush this virus' spread the better and the more likely we can adapt most of our activities to keep the virus crushed. As we do so, IMO, small businesses in particular should be supported financially. I don't think anyone, or sure not many, small business people will sit of their duffs and not innovate to get back to work and profits. It's just not the small businessperson's psychological 'DNA' to do so.