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foreverlax wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:37 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:52 am
Look at Biden’s actual policy decisions. And the words coming out of his mouth for 47 years.

Yea, the guy who's a racist worked for a black guy for 8 years, while the real racist gets a pass from you.

:lol:
How does Biden working for Obama refute anything? It was an opportunity for Biden. And many people have had bosses they loath privately. If you believe the media rumors, there are a bunch of people working in the White House right now that hate the president, right? Yet they are still there.

Pointing out that Biden said all those things and ACTUALLY instituted and voted for SYSTEMICALY RACIST policies for 47 years isn't giving Trump a pass. At all. Trump's racist dog whistles are real. Why he cant outright condemn the racists confounds me and tells me he's complicit and wants it.

Trump's lack of condemnation of hate groups is similar to Biden's condemnation of the criminal rioting in the cities. It's all BS window dressing. Their lackluster condemnations are really a nod and wink of approval.
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youthathletics wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:52 am Biden was wearing a wire. https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4910770/ ... biden-wire
Trump had a cattle prod up his ass.
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youthathletics wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:52 am Biden was wearing a wire. https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4910770/ ... biden-wire
because he scratched himself? get real. And even if he was, so what. This is what you are running with?
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wgdsr wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:40 am damn, he has short fingers.
Agree. But that's a photoshop pic.
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kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:55 am
foreverlax wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:37 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:52 am
Look at Biden’s actual policy decisions. And the words coming out of his mouth for 47 years.

Yea, the guy who's a racist worked for a black guy for 8 years, while the real racist gets a pass from you.

:lol:
How does Biden working for Obama refute anything? It was an opportunity for Biden. And many people have had bosses they loath privately. If you believe the media rumors, there are a bunch of people working in the White House right now that hate the president, right? Yet they are still there.

Pointing out that Biden said all those things and ACTUALLY instituted and voted for SYSTEMICALY RACIST policies for 47 years isn't giving Trump a pass. At all. Trump's racist dog whistles are real. Why he cant outright condemn the racists confounds me and tells me he's complicit and wants it.

Trump's lack of condemnation of hate groups is similar to Biden's condemnation of the criminal rioting in the cities. It's all BS window dressing. Their lackluster condemnations are really a nod and wink of approval.
So you are suggesting that Biden worked for BHO and not only didn't respect him, he didnt like him. GMAFB.

1. I don't believe Biden is a racist. I believe that Trump is.

2. What Biden has said and when he has said it pales in comparison to what Trump has said during those same time periods.

3. Trump doesn't condem these groups, because he doesn't condemn them....they support him. Biden couldn't be any clearer regarding his views concerning rioting...if you actually listen to his words.
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njbill wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:57 am
youthathletics wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:52 am Biden was wearing a wire. https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4910770/ ... biden-wire
Trump had a cattle prod up his ass.
who looks better with a strapon? Melania or Jill?

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runrussellrun wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:57 am
youthathletics wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:52 am Biden was wearing a wire. https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4910770/ ... biden-wire
because he scratched himself? get real. And even if he was, so what. This is what you are running with?
Look closer, you can see the wire. I could not care, less...just sharing. Might as well give him the questions if you are okay with live coaching. I guess the green has kicked in :lol:
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"Will you condemn white supremacists?"

"Sure."

Media/Democrats/Democratic Media: "TRUMP REFUSES TO CONDEMN WHITE SUPREMACISTS"
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runrussellrun wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:51 am
DocBarrister wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:22 am
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:58 am
DocBarrister wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:47 am A CNN poll of debate watchers handed the night to Biden by a wide margin -- 60% of respondents said Biden won, while just 28% gave the night to Trump.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/30/politics ... index.html

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I found it interesting, when finally finding the actual poll "data', that Obama did "better" in the first debate against Romney. According to the CNN poll. Not what most recall. Even Obama himself thought he was lousy in that first debate. And yet, the CNN poll .......

Also, the numbers are very close to Hillaryous Clinton and Don tRumps first debate....so there's that.
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sure IS, especially when the "poll" contacts less than 600 people. ;)
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kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:45 am Biden is willing to shut down the economy and not willing to shut down the civil unrest.
Have you forgotten the important part here, Kram?

For every shut down, in every State I've looked at? They cite CDC Guidelines. That means they're citing the Trump Administration. The shut downs are per TRUMP'S guidelines.

And the civil unrest? Who the F do you think is unwilling to shut it down in 2020?

That's right. Trump.

So don't act like Biden is different.
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foreverlax wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:03 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:55 am
foreverlax wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:37 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:52 am
Look at Biden’s actual policy decisions. And the words coming out of his mouth for 47 years.

Yea, the guy who's a racist worked for a black guy for 8 years, while the real racist gets a pass from you.

:lol:
How does Biden working for Obama refute anything? It was an opportunity for Biden. And many people have had bosses they loath privately. If you believe the media rumors, there are a bunch of people working in the White House right now that hate the president, right? Yet they are still there.

Pointing out that Biden said all those things and ACTUALLY instituted and voted for SYSTEMICALY RACIST policies for 47 years isn't giving Trump a pass. At all. Trump's racist dog whistles are real. Why he cant outright condemn the racists confounds me and tells me he's complicit and wants it.

Trump's lack of condemnation of hate groups is similar to Biden's condemnation of the criminal rioting in the cities. It's all BS window dressing. Their lackluster condemnations are really a nod and wink of approval.
So you are suggesting that Biden worked for BHO and not only didn't respect him, he didnt like him. GMAFB.

1. I don't believe Biden is a racist. I believe that Trump is.

2. What Biden has said and when he has said it pales in comparison to what Trump has said during those same time periods.

3. Trump doesn't condem these groups, because he doesn't condemn them....they support him. Biden couldn't be any clearer regarding his views concerning rioting...if you actually listen to his words.
I'm saying Biden is an opportunist AND a racist. This time around he's the trojan horse for the DNC.

1) I believe both Biden and Trump are racists.

2) So Biden is the better "less racist" person in your opinion? :lol: Sorry. But I choose not to ignore Biden's track record of voting for and supporting systemically racist policies for 47 years, coupled with his real-time racist quotes. Biden has been a huge part of institution the societal problems BLM is fighting.

3) Trump has condemned hate groups slowly, late, and after the fact too. It's not convincing. Similar to how Biden "condemned" the rioting. :roll:
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foreverlax wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:03 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:55 am
foreverlax wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:37 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:52 am
Look at Biden’s actual policy decisions. And the words coming out of his mouth for 47 years.

Yea, the guy who's a racist worked for a black guy for 8 years, while the real racist gets a pass from you.

:lol:
How does Biden working for Obama refute anything? It was an opportunity for Biden. And many people have had bosses they loath privately. If you believe the media rumors, there are a bunch of people working in the White House right now that hate the president, right? Yet they are still there.

Pointing out that Biden said all those things and ACTUALLY instituted and voted for SYSTEMICALY RACIST policies for 47 years isn't giving Trump a pass. At all. Trump's racist dog whistles are real. Why he cant outright condemn the racists confounds me and tells me he's complicit and wants it.

Trump's lack of condemnation of hate groups is similar to Biden's condemnation of the criminal rioting in the cities. It's all BS window dressing. Their lackluster condemnations are really a nod and wink of approval.
So you are suggesting that Biden worked for BHO and not only didn't respect him, he didnt like him. GMAFB.

1. I don't believe Biden is a racist. I believe that Trump is.

who cares what you believe

2. What Biden has said and when he has said it pales in comparison to what Trump has said during those same time periods.

Please provide a list of quotes, to we can compare them ourselves. Furthermore, Biden's crime bill of 1994.....we now the rest. Does, or did, Biden ever own private prison stock, like the Clintons?

3. Trump doesn't condem these groups, because he doesn't condemn them....they support him. Biden couldn't be any clearer regarding his views concerning rioting...if you actually listen to his words. How many months of rioting happened before Biden "condemned" the riots?
Besides half white, IVY league educated Obama, who has Biden ever worked for? Or, more to the point, how many people of color worked on his staff for almost 5 decades? Comeon, forever, tell us.
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youthathletics wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:12 am
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:57 am
youthathletics wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:52 am Biden was wearing a wire. https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4910770/ ... biden-wire
because he scratched himself? get real. And even if he was, so what. This is what you are running with?
Look closer, you can see the wire. I could not care, less...just sharing. Might as well give him the questions if you are okay with live coaching. I guess the green has kicked in :lol:
Wallace asked questions ? :lol:
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"Don't ever use the word smart with me" was an inadvertently great line.
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Next Presidential debate is Town Hall format, which could be another loss for IMPOTUS o d; citizens asking him questions. No way he can tell the truth or NOT talk down on the peasantfolk.
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It's disappointing to read some of the comments on here.

Some of you I thought were rational, decent human beings...but you're choosing not to be.

This was an overwhelming disaster for Trump.
Yes, he made his hard core base feel a tingle up their legs, but he lost the majority of independents for good.

And he failed to change the narrative of Biden into a boogeyman or senile puppet of the left.

Biden, simply by being a stark contrast to Trump, accomplished his primary goal of leaping over the low bar set by Trump all summer and all fall, while clearly being fully competent to stand up to any bully and clearly in charge of his own policy views. "I am the Democratic Party now". And most importantly, when he turned to the camera and spoke directly to the American people, it was clear that he cares about them and our democracy in ways Trump can't even fathom.

This was both a strategic and tactical fail of the Trump Campaign and its childishly impulsive, whining, rude candidate who could not even bring himself to condemn white supremacists and who told the American public not to believe his own FBI Director and his own CDC Director. He did not add ANY voters to his shrinking base...but he did embolden further racist hate groups like the Proud Boys, who clearly understood his call to them.

The Trump Campaign created the low bar for Biden and he merely had to withstand the abuse, often laughing or shrugging it off, and several times dismissing Trump caustically with the flick of a hand or phrase, while then turning his attention back to the issues the American people face in their lives, not the petulant whining life of an aggrieved President.

And this did not need to be such a disaster for Trump, had he simply shut up and allowed Biden to have to answer questions and various attacks rather than drowning him out with a machine gun of rudeness. Biden might well have floundered had he been given space to do so. But nope, the man-child that is Trump was undisciplined, angry...

But Trump was indeed "too hot", reinforcing all of the stories about him from those who have left the Administration. There will be more such in the weeks ahead and the narrative just gets reinforced at every turn.

Trump was a man who knows he's on his way to one of the worst losses of any incumbent in American history. Trump loves a hyperbolic "most", so perhaps that will be attained...the most ignominious loss of any POTUS incumbent in American history.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:16 am
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:51 am
DocBarrister wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:22 am
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:58 am
DocBarrister wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:47 am A CNN poll of debate watchers handed the night to Biden by a wide margin -- 60% of respondents said Biden won, while just 28% gave the night to Trump.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/30/politics ... index.html

DocBarrister
I found it interesting, when finally finding the actual poll "data', that Obama did "better" in the first debate against Romney. According to the CNN poll. Not what most recall. Even Obama himself thought he was lousy in that first debate. And yet, the CNN poll .......

Also, the numbers are very close to Hillaryous Clinton and Don tRumps first debate....so there's that.
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sure IS, especially when the "poll" contacts less than 600 people. ;)
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CU88 wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:22 am Next Presidential debate is Town Hall format, which could be another loss for IMPOTUS o d; citizens asking him questions. No way he can tell the truth or NOT talk down on the peasantfolk.
What did tRump lie about last night?
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It's disappointing to read some of the comments on here.

Some of you I thought were rational, decent human beings...but you're choosing not to be.

This was an overwhelming disaster for Trump.
Yes, he made his hard core base feel a tingle up their legs, but he lost the majority of independents for good.

And he failed to change the narrative of Biden into a boogeyman or senile puppet of the left.

Biden, simply by being a stark contrast to Trump, accomplished his primary goal of leaping over the low bar set by Trump all summer and all fall, while clearly being fully competent to stand up to any bully and clearly in charge of his own policy views. "I am the Democratic Party now". And most importantly, when he turned to the camera and spoke directly to the American people, it was clear that he cares about them and our democracy in ways Trump can't even fathom.

This was both a strategic and tactical fail of the Trump Campaign and its childishly impulsive, whining, rude candidate who could not even bring himself to condemn white supremacists and who told the American public not to believe his own FBI Director and his own CDC Director. He did not add ANY voters to his shrinking base...but he did embolden further racist hate groups like the Proud Boys, who clearly understood his call to them.

The Trump Campaign created the low bar for Biden and he merely had to withstand the abuse, often laughing or shrugging it off, and several times dismissing Trump caustically with the flick of a hand or phrase, while then turning his attention back to the issues the American people face in their lives, not the petulant whining life of an aggrieved President.

And this did not need to be such a disaster for Trump, had he simply shut up and allowed Biden to have to answer questions and various attacks rather than drowning him out with a machine gun of rudeness. Biden might well have floundered had he been given space to do so. But nope, the man-child that is Trump was undisciplined, angry...

But Trump was indeed "too hot", reinforcing all of the stories about him from those who have left the Administration. There will be more such in the weeks ahead and the narrative just gets reinforced at every turn.

Trump was a man who knows he's on his way to one of the worst losses of any incumbent in American history. Trump loves a hyperbolic "most", so perhaps that will be attained...the most ignominious loss of any POTUS incumbent in American history.
So Biden calling Trump a clown and telling him to shut up, (but doing it in his hushed quiet voice) was the better, higher road?

:lol:

I mentioned TDS in the past but didn't believe it as much until I''ve seen the response to this deabte. The over the top dislike for Trump makes so many Americans ignore the other shltty and embarrassing choice the dems are wheeling out.

No thanks. It will be a write-in for me. Again.
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This narrative was before the DNC put all their chips on this racist, sexual predator.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03 ... ained.html

But as his campaign progressed, and Biden discerned that the arc of history was bending toward white backlash, the young candidate bent with it. He became a caricature of a white northern liberal — arguing that forced busing was appropriate for the South (where segregation was the product of racist laws), but unnecessary for the North (where, Biden pretended, it merely reflected the preferences of the white and black communities).

Once in the Senate, Biden continued to triangulate, voting for most, though not all, f the anti-busing amendments that came before him. But for his overwhelmingly white constituents, nothing less than massive resistance to busing would suffice. The New Castle County Neighborhood Schools Association booed Biden off the stage at one event in 1974. One year later, the Delaware senator broke ranks with northern liberals— and joined his virulently racist North Carolina colleague Jesse Helms in voting to kneecap all federal efforts to integrate schools, anywhere in the country. Specifically, Biden voted to bar the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare from requiring schools to provide information on the racial makeup of their student bodies — thereby making it nigh-impossible for Uncle Sam to withhold federal funds from school districts that refused to integrate.

The measure was rejected. Nevertheless, Biden persisted. And his cowardly example inspired other self-professed liberals to throw racial justice under the bus. As the historian Jason Sokol writes:

Immediately after the Helms amendment was tabled, Biden proposed his own amendment to the $36 billion education bill, stipulating that none of those federal funds could be used by school systems “to assign teachers or students to schools … for reasons of race.” His amendment would prevent “some faceless bureaucrat” from “deciding that any child, black or white, should fit in some predetermined ratio.”



… Like the Helms gambit, [Biden’s provision] would still gut Title VI of the Civil Rights Act. But this time, a number of liberal senators that had opposed Helms’s amendment now supported Biden: Warren Magnuson and Scoop Jackson of Washington, where Seattle faced impending integration orders; and Thomas Eagleton and Stuart Symington of Missouri, where Kansas City confronted a similar fate. Mike Mansfield, the majority leader from Montana, also jumped on board. Watching his liberal colleagues defect, Republican Jacob Javits of New York mused, “They’re scared to death on busing.” The Senate approved Biden’s amendment. Biden had managed to turn a 48-43 loss for the anti-busing forces into a 50-43 victory.

The NAACP called Biden’s proposal “an anti-black amendment.” The Senate’s sole African-American member, Ed Brooke, called it “the greatest symbolic defeat for civil rights since 1964.” But Biden helped his fellow liberals reconcile themselves to the wrong side of history by recasting integrationists as the real racists.

“The new integration plans being offered are really just quota systems to assure a certain number of blacks, Chicanos, or whatever in each school. That, to me, is the most racist concept you can come up with,” Biden said in a 1975 interview recently unearthed by the Washington Post. “What it says is, ‘In order for your child with curly black hair, brown eyes, and dark skin to be able to learn anything, he needs to sit next to my blond-haired, blue-eyed son.’ That’s racist!”

Biden echoed this in remarks to NPR that same year, saying, “I think the concept of busing … that we are going to integrate people so that they all have the same access and they learn to grow up with one another and all the rest, is a rejection of the whole movement of black pride … a rejection of the entire black awareness concept, where black is beautiful, black culture should be studied; and the cultural awareness of the importance of their own identity, their own individuality.”

As of 2007, Biden believed that this stance had aged well. In a memoir released that year, the soon-to-be presidential candidate derided busing as “a liberal trainwreck.” Education experts disagree. Since some municipalities did integrate their schools through busing (however temporarily), while others did not, scholars have been able to evaluate the policy’s efficacy. In 2011, researchers at Berkeley found that black students who had spent five years in desegregated schools went on to earn (on average) 25 percent more than those who remained in segregated schools (or, in Biden’s phrasing, schools that honored the “black awareness concept”). Other studies have found that racial segregation impairs learning for black students so severely, it outweighs the positive effects associated with higher household income — while integration enhances educational outcomes more profoundly than increasing a school’s safety. Meanwhile, contrary to so many white parents’ fears, integration was not associated with any negative effect on white students’ educational performance.

The rationale for integration is not, as Biden suggested, that black kids need to sit next to blue-eyed ones in order to retain information. Rather, it is that, in a racially stratified society, overwhelmingly African-American schools will (almost inevitably) be sites of concentrated poverty, underinvestment, and relatively low social capital (i.e., places where children from low-income families will be unlikely to form connections with children from higher-income ones). Biden never ceased expressing his concern for black children’s inadequate educational opportunities. But he has done more to perpetuate those inadequacies than to remedy them.

Biden worked tirelessly, over several decades, to make America’s (profoundly racist) criminal-justice system more punitive than any other advanced democracy’s.
It is hard to name an infamously unjust feature of America’s criminal-justice system that Joe Biden didn’t help to bring about. Mandatory minimum sentences for nonviolent drug offenders, the sentencing disparity between crack and powder cocaine, civil asset forfeiture, and extensive use of the death penalty — the Delaware senator was involved in establishing them all.

Biden is famous for his lead role in crafting the 1994 crime bill, or, as the senator preferred to call it (as recently as 2015), the “1994 Biden Crime Bill.” Some aspects of that legislation remain popular within the Democratic Party — among them, the Violence Against Women Act, a federal assault-weapons ban, and funds for “community oriented” policing. But in 2019 America — a place where our nation’s violent crime rate is near historic lows, while its incarceration rate hovers around world-historic highs — the bill’s broader legacy is ignominious. The Brennan Center succinctly summarized that legacy on the 20th anniversary of the bill’s passage:

It expanded the death penalty, creating 60 new death penalty offenses under 41 federal capital statutes. It eliminated education funding for incarcerated students, effectively gutting prison education programs. Despite a wealth of research showing education increases post-release employment, reduces recidivism, and improves outcomes for the formerly incarcerated and their families, this change has not been reversed.



And the bill created a wave of change toward harsher state sentencing policy. That change was driven by funding incentives: the bill’s $9.7 billion in federal funding for prison construction went only to states that adopted truth-in-sentencing (TIS) laws, which lead to defendants serving far longer prison terms. Within 5 years, 29 states had TIS laws on the books, 24 more than when the bill was signed. New York State received over $216 million by passing such laws. By 2000 the state had added over 12,000 prison beds and incarcerated 28 percent more people than a decade before.

As a result of these policies — and many others — the United States imprisons a higher proportion of its population today than any other developed country. This is not because Americans commit more crimes — victimization rates in the United States are comparable to those in Western Europe. Rather, it is because we impose harsher sentences on convicts than any other nation deems conscionable.

And for the bulk of his political career, Joe Biden made mandating such sentences one of his defining causes. As a high-ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Biden didn’t just craft the 1994 crime bill — he also ushered a variety of other draconian measures into law.

As with busing, Biden leaned left on criminal justice early in his career. In 1981, he criticized Republicans for pushing longer sentences for nonviolent offenders when prisons were already overcrowded. But, as with busing, Biden was one of the first liberals to discern the rightward shift in public opinion on criminal justice — and quite possibly, the most enthusiastic convert to the gospel of law-and-order liberalism. During the 1980s, Biden helped pass laws reinstating the federal death penalty, abolishing federal parole, increasing penalties for marijuana possession, expanding the use of civil asset forfeiture, and establishing a 100-to-1 sentencing disparity for possession of crack cocaine (used disproportionately by poor nonwhite people) and powder cocaine (used disproportionately by rich white people).

Biden’s support for these measures wasn’t a wholly defensive responsive to public outrage over violent crime. Rather, it was a proactive effort to capitalize on the electorate’s increasingly draconian mood.

In 1989, George H. W. Bush gave a national address outlining his plans to ramp up the war on drugs. Biden delivered the Democratic response, and savaged the Republican’s plan to drastically increase incarceration for drug crimes — from the right.

“Quite frankly, the president’s plan is not tough enough, bold enough, or imaginative enough to meet the crisis at hand,” Biden told the American people. “In a nutshell, the president’s plan does not include enough police officers to catch the violent thugs, enough prosecutors to convict them, enough judges to sentence them, or enough prison cells to put them away for a long time.”


Four years later, Biden remained at the cutting edge of law-and-order liberalism. In a Senate floor speech recently spotlighted by CNN’s KFile, Biden raised awareness of the (mythical) threat posed by super-predators — a rising generation of inner city children so comprehensively failed by their parents and society, they had developed into incurable sociopaths whom the state could quarantine but never rehabilitate.

There is a “cadre of young people, tens of thousands of them, born out of wedlock, without parents, without supervision, without any structure, without any conscience developing because they literally … because they literally have not been socialized, they literally have not had an opportunity,” Biden explained. He then he urged his colleagues to support aid to such youths now, or else they would “become the predators 15 years from now.”

In the same speech, Biden warned of dealing with the "cadre of young" people without "conscious developing" that would become "predators" that were "beyond the pale" who would have be taken out of society. https://t.co/JA8WJAUAZC pic.twitter.com/NC0mJSenrn

— andrew kaczynski (@KFILE) March 7, 2019
As for the already existing predators, “they are beyond the pale many of those people, beyond the pale,” Biden said. “We have no choice but to take them out of society … rehabilitation, when it occurs, we don’t understand it and notice it, and even when we notice it and we know it occurs, we don’t know why. So you cannot make rehabilitation a condition for release.”

The super-predator proved to be a myth. But the specter of inner cities teeming with irredeemable monsters and abandoned children helped rationalize both mass incarceration, and its racially inequitable character.

Uncle Joe says the darndest (and/or most racially insensitive) things.

Beyond his role in perpetuating systemic racism (through his opposition to school integration, and support for mass incarceration), Biden has long displayed a penchant for political incorrectness. His suggestion that Barack Obama was the first clean and articulate African-American to run for president is probably the most infamous of his gaffes. But the former vice-president also told a crowd of black voters in 2012 that Mitt Romney would “put you all back in chains,” and has a habit of badly impersonating Indian convenience-store clerks and call-center employees. But Biden’s most troubling “racially tinged” remarks might be those he does not regard as such. Specifically, the former vice-president has long boasted of his warm — and often legislatively productive — relationships with white supremacist southern senators.

“I’ve been around so long, I worked with James Eastland,” Biden said at a rally for Democratic Senate candidate Doug Jones in the fall of 2017. “Even in the days when I got there, the Democratic Party still had seven or eight old-fashioned Democratic segregationists. You’d get up and you’d argue like the devil with them. Then you’d go down and have lunch or dinner together. The political system worked. We were divided on issues, but the political system worked.”

Biden’s sentiments read like a satire of nostalgia for bipartisan comity, laying bare the amorality and elitism inherent to celebrating collegiality for its own sake. Needless to say, a political system in which a man who believed that his dark-skinned constituents belonged to an “inferior race” — and must be quarantined to their own institutions to prevent the “mongrelization” of the white race — was not one that “worked” for said constituents.

And Eastland isn’t the only white supremacist Biden can’t help expressing grudging admiration for. The Democratic front-runner also warmly eulogized Strom Thurmond at his funeral, and his insistence on fondly recalling his relationship with Jesse Helms “grates on even members of his own team, who have told him as much,” according to a recent report from the New York Times.

Biden’s faith in such senators’ entitlement to dignity, and capacity for redemption, stands in marked contrast to his erstwhile views on rehabilitating “predators” and “violent thugs.”

Why Biden might well win the Democratic nomination with strong African-American support anyway.
Late last month, Emerson College polled South Carolina Democrats on their preferences for the party’s 2020 nominee. Among African-American Democrats, there was little competition: Joe Biden boasted 43 percent of the demographic’s support — his closest competitor, Bernie Sanders, claimed a meager 15 percent. Kamala Harris’s support sat at 9. Emerson’s findings are consistent with broader national surveys of the 2020 primary, which consistently paint Biden as the front-runner — thanks, in no small part, to his popularity among black voters.

How do we reconcile Biden’s considerable complicity in racial injustice with his enviable popularity among his party’s African-American base?

One answer is the Biden’s apparent strength with such voters is illusory. The (likely) candidate is coasting off of his name recognition and association with Barack Obama. Once the primary campaign puts the history summarized above under the spotlight — along with Biden’s myriad other heresies against progressivism, including his support for bankruptcy reforms that hurt low-income consumers, his shoddy treatment of Anita Hill, and his advocacy for the Iraq War — black voters will see through his “malarkey.” This is quite plausible.

But a recent focus group conducted by Democratic consultant Danny Barefoot of Anvil Strategies offers some limited evidence that it is nonetheless mistaken.





Another explanation is that black voters find Biden’s heresies against racial liberalism forgivable. The man might have played a leading role in opposing busing, but he was ultimately responding to mobilized, majoritarian opposition that was all but certain to prevail no matter what position he chose to take. As for mass incarceration, the crack epidemic was truly a scourge, and even many African-American community leaders embraced the logic of “tough on crime” in its wake. It’s also conceivable that some portion of black Democratic primary voters agree, to this day, with Biden’s Clinton-era views on criminal justice. A significant minority of African-American Democrats identify as conservative, and indicate a broadly positive view of the police.

As is the case in so many American communities, the most prominent black activist groups and public intellectuals tend to be both more ideological — and more ideologically left wing — than the median black voter. The average American votes less on the basis of ideology than identity. Black Democrats identify strongly with Barack Obama, and Obama spent eight years vouching for Biden’s fitness for high office. That might count for more than the misgivings of elite progressive commentators like myself.


Regardless, in 2019, Biden evinces support for his party’s consensus on decarceration. Meanwhile, thanks to conservative courts, busing is a long-dead issue, of no contemporary political relevance. Within the Democratic coalition, the forces of racial liberalism are unmistakably ascendant. Whether that coalition has someone accountable to it in the next White House will almost certainly do more to determine federal policy on civil rights than the question of precisely whom that Democratic someone is. And with most polls suggesting that Biden is Team Blue’s most viable general-election candidate, one can construct a perfectly rational argument for why black voters and racial-justice advocates should rally behind Uncle Joe.

That said, given the size and quality of the Democratic field — and the severity of Biden’s ideological offenses — I, for one, hope they conclude that he is unfit for rehabilitation.
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