Would love to see Sleepy Creepy use your line on Tuesday night.
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Boycott stupid. Country over party.
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https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/pa ... -with-gunsParscale Hospitalized After Barricading Himself in Home with Guns
Deposed Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale has been hospitalized on a psychiatric hold after barricading himself in his Ft. Lauderdale home and threatening to harm himself with a firearm. According to a local press report, “Fort Lauderdale Police responded to a home in reference to an armed male attempting suicide Sunday afternoon. When officers arrived on the scene, they made contact with the wife of the man who told them her husband was armed, had access to multiple firearms inside the house and was threatening to harm himself.”
Parscale’s wife apparently called 911, telling police her husband was threatening to kill himself.
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More on tax cheating from of all people, the Pope:
Pope called tax evasion a “structure of sin;” in recent interview, the pontiff said: “It has become evident that those who do not pay their taxes are not only committing a crime, but murder: if there are not enough hospital beds or respirators, they too are partly to blame.”
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These tax revelations make me wonder whether the tax prosecutors have put together a case to indict Trump, which they are holding off on filing until he leaves office.
Bill Barr and the DOJ legal opinion are preventing them from filing it now.
Bill Barr and the DOJ legal opinion are preventing them from filing it now.
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Given the income, I imagine many here would be happy if they only had to pay $750 a week.
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US citizens who pay taxes are losers and suckers.
What’s the over/under on time before Trump tweets to condemn NYT for publishing private docs, and all the Trumpists jump on that bandwagon?
What’s the over/under on time before Trump tweets to condemn NYT for publishing private docs, and all the Trumpists jump on that bandwagon?
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Guarantee you that Trump has already called Bill Barr and told him to get people arrested pronto.
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More from Twitter:
Taxes paid (jointly with spouse) by some other people in 2017:
Taxes paid (jointly with spouse) by some other people in 2017:
Joe Biden - $3,742,974
Kamala Harris - $516,469
Bernie Sanders - $343,882
Elizabeth Warren - $268,484
Donald Trump - $750
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How did he manage not to get shot?RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:09 pmhttps://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/pa ... -with-gunsParscale Hospitalized After Barricading Himself in Home with Guns
Deposed Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale has been hospitalized on a psychiatric hold after barricading himself in his Ft. Lauderdale home and threatening to harm himself with a firearm. According to a local press report, “Fort Lauderdale Police responded to a home in reference to an armed male attempting suicide Sunday afternoon. When officers arrived on the scene, they made contact with the wife of the man who told them her husband was armed, had access to multiple firearms inside the house and was threatening to harm himself.”
Parscale’s wife apparently called 911, telling police her husband was threatening to kill himself.
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Sure. They pay taxes. Before the Hurricane? They paid over $3 Billion per year in taxes.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:00 pm Again, you don’t answer the question. What benefits to the United States would occur by granting PR statehood? Anything. I will take any tangible net benefit. One.
Any other questions?
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So, Donald Trump is a tax cheat?
Won’t matter to his supporters, who support him because he’s a disgusting, dishonest, racist, bigoted, misogynistic piece of trash ... just like them.
But this will increase the likelihood that Trump will face criminal charges for tax violations. From the NY Times report, it looks like “consultant” Ivanka may have some legal issues as well.
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If I were Joe, I might find a way to work those two numbers ($3.7 m and 75 (is it cents?)) into the debate on Tuesday.
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40 hours a week @ $15 an hour. You'll pay $2,059 in federal income taxes annually.
3X the $750 that POS pays.
Trump is part of that free-riding mooching 47% that Romney was talking about in 2012.
But the real criminal is the guy that charged DOPUS $70k for that hair style.
3X the $750 that POS pays.
Trump is part of that free-riding mooching 47% that Romney was talking about in 2012.
But the real criminal is the guy that charged DOPUS $70k for that hair style.
Boycott stupid. Country over party.
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Boycott stupid. Country over party.
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The IRS has been investigating Ivanka for reporting receiving payments from a consulting company she co-owned, totaling $747,622, that exactly matched consulting fees claimed as tax deductions by the Trump Organization for hotel projects in Vancouver and Hawaii.". That kind of double dipping is ILLEGAL under tax law.
Like the rest of you, I 'd like to know who thinks having the DOPUS on the hook for over $400 million in debt payments is a good idea for the country - He will have to play golf literally every day at a Trump property to generate enough taxpayer-funded expenses to raise revenue and even THAT likely won't be enough.
https://www.trumpgolfcount.com/displayoutings
"If the NYT story is "fake news," Trump can prove it by releasing just one page of his 2016 and '17 returns, that critical last page of Form 1040 that includes his signature and total tax paid. One page, & he could thoroughly humiliate the media. He won't, and we all know why."
Twitter line of the day
Steve Marmel
"Surprise.
The guy who is morally bankrupt is actually bankrupt."
Like the rest of you, I 'd like to know who thinks having the DOPUS on the hook for over $400 million in debt payments is a good idea for the country - He will have to play golf literally every day at a Trump property to generate enough taxpayer-funded expenses to raise revenue and even THAT likely won't be enough.
https://www.trumpgolfcount.com/displayoutings
"If the NYT story is "fake news," Trump can prove it by releasing just one page of his 2016 and '17 returns, that critical last page of Form 1040 that includes his signature and total tax paid. One page, & he could thoroughly humiliate the media. He won't, and we all know why."
Twitter line of the day
Steve Marmel
"Surprise.
The guy who is morally bankrupt is actually bankrupt."
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ggait wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:13 am 40 hours a week @ $15 an hour. You'll pay $2,059 in federal income taxes annually.
3X the $750 that POS pays.
Trump is part of that free-riding mooching 47% that Romney was talking about in 2012.
But the real criminal is the guy that charged DOPUS $70k for that hair style.
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And to whom does Trump owe that money? If it’s Deutsche Bank, the ultimate “lender” may be Vladimir Putin and his cronies, which would explain a lot of things.Kismet wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:33 am The IRS has been investigating Ivanka for reporting receiving payments from a consulting company she co-owned, totaling $747,622, that exactly matched consulting fees claimed as tax deductions by the Trump Organization for hotel projects in Vancouver and Hawaii.". That kind of double dipping is ILLEGAL under tax law.
Like the rest of you, I 'd like to know who thinks having the DOPUS on the hook for over $400 million in debt payments is a good idea for the country - He will have to play golf literally every day at a Trump property to generate enough taxpayer-funded expenses to raise revenue and even THAT likely won't be enough.
It may turn out that Trump has been living high through illegal tax evasion, bank fraud, and Russian money laundering.
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Not sure if someone already posted this, but here is the Times's editorial statement on why they published the article and analysis:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/27/us/t ... e=Homepage
"Today we are publishing the results of an examination of decades of personal and corporate tax records for President Trump and his businesses in the United States and abroad. The records stretch from his days as a high-profile New York real estate investor through the beginning of his time in the White House.
A team of New York Times reporters has pored over this information to assemble the most comprehensive picture of the president’s finances and business dealings to date, and we will continue our reporting and publish additional articles about our findings in the weeks ahead. We are not making the records themselves public because we do not want to jeopardize our sources, who have taken enormous personal risks to help inform the public.
We are publishing this report because we believe citizens should understand as much as possible about their leaders and representatives — their priorities, their experiences and also their finances. Every president since the mid-1970s has made his tax information public. The tradition ensures that an official with the power to shake markets and change policy does not seek to benefit financially from his actions.
Mr. Trump, one of the wealthiest presidents in the nation’s history, has broken with that practice. As a candidate and as president, Mr. Trump has said he wanted to make his tax returns public, but he has never done so. In fact, he has fought relentlessly to hide them from public view and has falsely asserted that he could not release them because he was being audited by the Internal Revenue Service. More recently, Mr. Trump and the Justice Department have fought subpoenas from congressional and New York State investigators seeking his taxes and other financial records.
Our latest findings build on our previous reporting about the president’s finances. The records show a significant gap between what Mr. Trump has said to the public and what he has disclosed to federal tax authorities over many years. They also underscore why citizens would want to know about their president’s finances: Mr. Trump’s businesses appear to have benefited from his position, and his far-flung holdings have created potential conflicts between his own financial interests and the nation’s diplomatic interests.
The reporters who examined these records have been covering the president’s finances and taxes for almost four years. Their work on this and other projects was guided by Paul Fishleder, a senior investigative editor, and Matthew Purdy, a deputy managing editor who oversees investigations and special projects at The Times.
Some will raise questions about publishing the president’s personal tax information. But the Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that the First Amendment allows the press to publish newsworthy information that was legally obtained by reporters even when those in power fight to keep it hidden. That powerful principle of the First Amendment applies here."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/27/us/t ... e=Homepage
"Today we are publishing the results of an examination of decades of personal and corporate tax records for President Trump and his businesses in the United States and abroad. The records stretch from his days as a high-profile New York real estate investor through the beginning of his time in the White House.
A team of New York Times reporters has pored over this information to assemble the most comprehensive picture of the president’s finances and business dealings to date, and we will continue our reporting and publish additional articles about our findings in the weeks ahead. We are not making the records themselves public because we do not want to jeopardize our sources, who have taken enormous personal risks to help inform the public.
We are publishing this report because we believe citizens should understand as much as possible about their leaders and representatives — their priorities, their experiences and also their finances. Every president since the mid-1970s has made his tax information public. The tradition ensures that an official with the power to shake markets and change policy does not seek to benefit financially from his actions.
Mr. Trump, one of the wealthiest presidents in the nation’s history, has broken with that practice. As a candidate and as president, Mr. Trump has said he wanted to make his tax returns public, but he has never done so. In fact, he has fought relentlessly to hide them from public view and has falsely asserted that he could not release them because he was being audited by the Internal Revenue Service. More recently, Mr. Trump and the Justice Department have fought subpoenas from congressional and New York State investigators seeking his taxes and other financial records.
Our latest findings build on our previous reporting about the president’s finances. The records show a significant gap between what Mr. Trump has said to the public and what he has disclosed to federal tax authorities over many years. They also underscore why citizens would want to know about their president’s finances: Mr. Trump’s businesses appear to have benefited from his position, and his far-flung holdings have created potential conflicts between his own financial interests and the nation’s diplomatic interests.
The reporters who examined these records have been covering the president’s finances and taxes for almost four years. Their work on this and other projects was guided by Paul Fishleder, a senior investigative editor, and Matthew Purdy, a deputy managing editor who oversees investigations and special projects at The Times.
Some will raise questions about publishing the president’s personal tax information. But the Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that the First Amendment allows the press to publish newsworthy information that was legally obtained by reporters even when those in power fight to keep it hidden. That powerful principle of the First Amendment applies here."
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seacoaster wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:24 am Not sure if someone already posted this, but here is the Times's editorial statement on why they published the article and analysis:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/27/us/t ... e=Homepage
"Today we are publishing the results of an examination of decades of personal and corporate tax records for President Trump and his businesses in the United States and abroad. The records stretch from his days as a high-profile New York real estate investor through the beginning of his time in the White House.
A team of New York Times reporters has pored over this information to assemble the most comprehensive picture of the president’s finances and business dealings to date, and we will continue our reporting and publish additional articles about our findings in the weeks ahead. We are not making the records themselves public because we do not want to jeopardize our sources, who have taken enormous personal risks to help inform the public.
We are publishing this report because we believe citizens should understand as much as possible about their leaders and representatives — their priorities, their experiences and also their finances. Every president since the mid-1970s has made his tax information public. The tradition ensures that an official with the power to shake markets and change policy does not seek to benefit financially from his actions.
Mr. Trump, one of the wealthiest presidents in the nation’s history, has broken with that practice. As a candidate and as president, Mr. Trump has said he wanted to make his tax returns public, but he has never done so. In fact, he has fought relentlessly to hide them from public view and has falsely asserted that he could not release them because he was being audited by the Internal Revenue Service. More recently, Mr. Trump and the Justice Department have fought subpoenas from congressional and New York State investigators seeking his taxes and other financial records.
Our latest findings build on our previous reporting about the president’s finances. The records show a significant gap between what Mr. Trump has said to the public and what he has disclosed to federal tax authorities over many years. They also underscore why citizens would want to know about their president’s finances: Mr. Trump’s businesses appear to have benefited from his position, and his far-flung holdings have created potential conflicts between his own financial interests and the nation’s diplomatic interests.
The reporters who examined these records have been covering the president’s finances and taxes for almost four years. Their work on this and other projects was guided by Paul Fishleder, a senior investigative editor, and Matthew Purdy, a deputy managing editor who oversees investigations and special projects at The Times.
Some will raise questions about publishing the president’s personal tax information. But the Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that the First Amendment allows the press to publish newsworthy information that was legally obtained by reporters even when those in power fight to keep it hidden. That powerful principle of the First Amendment applies here."
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seacoaster wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:24 am Not sure if someone already posted this, but here is the Times's editorial statement on why they published the article and analysis:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/27/us/t ... e=Homepage
"Today we are publishing the results of an examination of decades of personal and corporate tax records for President Trump and his businesses in the United States and abroad. The records stretch from his days as a high-profile New York real estate investor through the beginning of his time in the White House.
A team of New York Times reporters has pored over this information to assemble the most comprehensive picture of the president’s finances and business dealings to date, and we will continue our reporting and publish additional articles about our findings in the weeks ahead. We are not making the records themselves public because we do not want to jeopardize our sources, who have taken enormous personal risks to help inform the public.
We are publishing this report because we believe citizens should understand as much as possible about their leaders and representatives — their priorities, their experiences and also their finances. Every president since the mid-1970s has made his tax information public. The tradition ensures that an official with the power to shake markets and change policy does not seek to benefit financially from his actions.
Mr. Trump, one of the wealthiest presidents in the nation’s history, has broken with that practice. As a candidate and as president, Mr. Trump has said he wanted to make his tax returns public, but he has never done so. In fact, he has fought relentlessly to hide them from public view and has falsely asserted that he could not release them because he was being audited by the Internal Revenue Service. More recently, Mr. Trump and the Justice Department have fought subpoenas from congressional and New York State investigators seeking his taxes and other financial records.
Our latest findings build on our previous reporting about the president’s finances. The records show a significant gap between what Mr. Trump has said to the public and what he has disclosed to federal tax authorities over many years. They also underscore why citizens would want to know about their president’s finances: Mr. Trump’s businesses appear to have benefited from his position, and his far-flung holdings have created potential conflicts between his own financial interests and the nation’s diplomatic interests.
The reporters who examined these records have been covering the president’s finances and taxes for almost four years. Their work on this and other projects was guided by Paul Fishleder, a senior investigative editor, and Matthew Purdy, a deputy managing editor who oversees investigations and special projects at The Times.
Some will raise questions about publishing the president’s personal tax information. But the Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that the First Amendment allows the press to publish newsworthy information that was legally obtained by reporters even when those in power fight to keep it hidden. That powerful principle of the First Amendment applies here."
Snooze.
If the IRS had ANYTHING on Trump, we would have heard about it in 2016.
How much more taxes than one owes should one pay? How is this amount calculated so that this unwritten and hitherto unknown rule (as opposed to the one in the IRS Code) can be obeyed?